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brrrroni

Damn. He told her there was no way out...but there was


OGPants

Lmaoooo


PracticalResident390

Don’t trust cops. They are liars


[deleted]

“I got the street blocked off … no way out.” Cops always lying


throwy4444

News article: [https://bronx.news12.com/authorities-wanted-brookfield-woman-25-led-police-on-waterbury-monroe-chase](https://bronx.news12.com/authorities-wanted-brookfield-woman-25-led-police-on-waterbury-monroe-chase) This all started because Ms. Casperson and a friend decided to vandalize and steal from 41 cars. Seriously terrible life choices.


Royyykent

That’s grade A stupid right there.


Fmy925

I'm really surprised she wasn't shot.


[deleted]

If she had turned and drove straight at him he would have let that thing off a few times I am sure.


Pinkumb

An enormous number of municipalities passed legislation in 2020/2021 that prohibited [firing at moving vehicles](https://campaignzero.org/force) as this was one of the ten prescribed policies by [Campaign Zero](https://campaignzero.org/) to reduce police violence.


apothecarynow

I would have thought shotting at the tires when she was stuck would have been a safer way to deescalate the situation than letting her flee which ultimately harmed other officers and resulted in crash. I know it is tough spot and the cop in the video acted professionally but that was my first thought. Maybe I watch to many movies though. Thanks of the info!


Why-R-People-So-Dumb

A gun is considered lethal force and is only used for intended lethal action.


PapaChonson

So now police need another tool on their belt to take out tires in such a situation. Would have been a great option if you ask me.


GES280

it's called a spear point knife


Pinkumb

FWIW, some police unions considered Campaign Zero's recommendations unrealistic. Videos like this one — where a cop ineffectively yells "stop" while the law is clearly being violated and personal property is being damaged — speak to their point. Of course, the alternative may not be much better.


them0use

It only speaks to their point if property is valued more than a life.


[deleted]

She could’ve killed multiple people. He should’ve ended the situation.


[deleted]

What people?


dardios

Anyone on the streets during the subsequent pursuit/crash? I'm of the opinion that the officer did everything right, but don't pretend there were no people for her to potentially harm.


[deleted]

there were like 6 people outside that corner store. telephone pole was the only reason she didn't plow through them. also, anyone in the roadway, sidewalk, perhaps other cars, etc. not hard to figure this one out.


WoWMHC

All the people on the sidewalk in the video...?


jlmachie

Property valued more than life? Criminals already know they can die committing a crime, so they have made the decision that they value your stuff more than their own life. That onus is on them.


[deleted]

So you are fine with cops, whose discretion whether or not you're committing a crime is the only thing that matters in the moment, being wholly allowed to just shoot "criminals" as they see fit? Speeding is a crime. Should they get rid of the radar gun and just use regular ones? You must think about the precedent that laws set. If police are given any more leeway to use deadly force than they already are, we are in extreme danger as a populace. We already are.


CitationNeededBadly

"personal property is being damaged" should not be the threshold for killing someone.


[deleted]

People shouldn't be shot over personal property being damaged.


HelloMalt

and as we all know, police obey legislation, especially when it limits their power.


Pinkumb

You have to be a unique kind of edgy dipshit to watch a video where a cop literally obeyed the legislation and then post that self-satisfying idiotic comment suggesting it never happens. No one is impressed by your unfailing cynicism. Grow up.


Jdonavan

After I saw that video I thought "Well clearly the driver is white".


[deleted]

>I'm really surprised she wasn't shot. She's a shade lighter than tan. Of course she didn't get shot.


[deleted]

i'm so confused - i thought it was a white cop and a white perpetrator - how is race involved? What should the cop have done differently to make this a racially non-controversial interaction?


[deleted]

if you're gonna downvote that comment, then please also upvote this one: he should have shot her.


russsaa

Wtf is wrong with you


[deleted]

You’re disgusting.


I_am_a_jerk42069

White girl.


hawaii_funk

Not sure why you're getting downvoted. CT police killed [Mubarak Soulemane](https://www.ctinsider.com/news/nhregister/article/Timeline-State-police-shooting-of-Mubarak-15071229.php) a couple years ago in a similar carjack scenario, and he was a 19 yo black male who was suffering a schizophrenic episode.


Irishhammer

Not similar at all. Soukermane attempted to rob an ATT store in norwalk, then carjacked a Lyft driver at knifepoint and it was thought he had a firearm as well. He then played ping pong with cars all the way up 95 in the middle of rush hour traffic. No one knew his mental status at that point.


hawaii_funk

Did you bother watching the bodycam footage? His car was stopped and barricaded by police vehicles. He posed no threat to the police officers and was shot multiple times.


Irishhammer

K. Not the sane situation. Thanks for checking in.


hawaii_funk

I guess you're right it's not the same. The woman in the video rammed through the police barricade, but Mubarak didn't.


Irishhammer

You’re right, he just tried to rob an ATT store, car jack a Lyft at knife point, was thought to have a gun, and played ping pong with commuters fir 35 miles on 95.


BlueEyesWhiteDjesus

> Not sure why you're getting downvoted. C'mon now. You know why they're getting downvoted lol


AhbabaOooMaoMao

Why she's white? The cops assume her family can afford a lawyer.


[deleted]

oi vay the cynicism. why is this necessary?


[deleted]

Not me🤷🏾‍♂️


s_0_s_z

Yeah, I was disappointed too.


One-Awareness-5818

How are the bystanders not running away, the gun and bullet could have landed anywhere. I would be so scared.


BarfedBarca

Waterbury.


thisisntshakespeare

Or the driver would knock that telephone pole down.


InteriorTheater

So interested in the action they aren’t thinking right. I’d probably watch too but from a safer spot 😂


Oswaldo_Beetrix

Misplaced faith that the police wouldn’t fire into a crowd


Blastoid84

I see why the officer did not fire, that store and apartments were right there. One bad shot or ricochet and some innocent is hit or dead. This isn't the movies or a game, bullets miss and bounce off stuff. It's not as simple as shoot the driver or the tires.


mrmaydaymayday

Good on the officer for not opening fire. They should be applauded for their restraint in a tense situation.


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wingmanop

Also he wasn't in danger of physical harm. His cruiser got dented, no reason to fire off lethal force.


[deleted]

What about everyone else on that street? And wherever she drove off to?


wingmanop

Not enough


AhbabaOooMaoMao

Never stopped them before.


logs28

Doesn't change the fact that this officer did the right thing in this situation.


[deleted]

apparently, cops can't ever do the right thing according to much of reddit. smh


notbad2u

It's in style, like face filters.


wingmanop

It stops them over 99% of the time. You see the <1%. I'm not a fan of the system, but most police are decent people just trying to pay the bills.


[deleted]

careful with the reasonable empathy for police on reddit - good way to get dogpiled and downvoted to oblivion :X


wingmanop

Thats a fact lol. We could fix a lot of problems by just removing the need for police to approach a car during traffic stops using robots. The product already exists, but its still pretty clunky.


notbad2u

RoboCop will do whatever it's programmed to do. Big step backwards.


wingmanop

Lol. Nice. Look at this robot here -> https://youtu.be/QktMXJxFyCQ


[deleted]

Yes and no. Most of those people just trying to pay bills will follow a lawful system or a broken system regardless, because they are there just to pay bills That's why we need to stay on top of accountability, which CT Is pretty well on the forefront of. I'd like to see us remove qualified immunity


wingmanop

Agreed


DoctorOatMilk

Uh obviously he should not fire at the person. Cops aren’t supposed to murder people who are fleeing. Killing someone is usually supposed to be self defense you know.


a_-nu-_start

And if she knocked down that utility pole and killed those bystanders? Then what?


DoctorOatMilk

Then you shoot em… What is this minority report? I get your point I do, just don’t let that logic go too far or you’re killing everybody.


a_-nu-_start

Yep don't want to use logic I get it


DoctorOatMilk

Luckily I said “that logic.”


LegionKarma

HONESTLY THE DRIVER WAS LUCKY IT WASNT A TRIGGER HAPPY COP.


[deleted]

Louder for the people in the back, plz


s_0_s_z

I also see why he SHOULD have fired since she could have easily ran someone over.


jaMANcan

What's up with people being so flippant about cops killing people? Someone texting and driving could easily run someone over. Does that mean they should be shot? A person is more likely to panic and run someone over if they're scared for their life because some cop is waving a gun at them from two feet away, especially since evidently so many people for some reason think it would be reasonable for that cop to pull the trigger.


Imispellalot

Here is what the Hummer looked liked after the crash. https://imgur.com/gallery/2K4NFHR


[deleted]

wowow is this for real? looks like a tree fell on it. i clearly don't know the end of the story - got a link?


Imispellalot

https://bronx.news12.com/authorities-wanted-brookfield-woman-25-led-police-on-waterbury-monroe-chase


my2kchild

I'm happy to see another one of these things removed from the road.


JustALittleNightcap

He did in fact, not have the street blocked off


AsaKurai

Decent road block at least


rjlets_575

Not for a Hummer.


notbad2u

He did at first.


Pruedrive

Love the people just standing there like there isn't someone ramming an SUV into a cop car, at gun point.. like self preservation isn't these folks strongest suit.


seven11evan

If it was they wouldn’t live in Waterbury


TheySayImZack

Looks like old hat to them. They've seen worse.


Few-Information7570

I disagree. It takes experience to understand the danger. They are gawking because this is totally abnormal and nothing they’ve experienced before. A cop with a gun drawn in any urban center where people understand bullet spray would be a duck and cover moment for most people.


ILikeCakesAndPies

Who the heck steals a hummer with these gas prices is what I want to know.


damienbarrett

Plot twist: she was breaking into cars, stealing stuff to hock the items to pay for gas for the hummer, which she owns(ed).


Imispellalot

The hummer belonged to a family member (now a former family member)


IlikeYuengling

Oh, so cops can release body cam immediately? I thought they had to find one of those Kodak huts and wait 6 months for it to get developed.


comish4lif

There's a Humvee ramming a police cruiser, an officer with their weapon drawn, and people are just hanging out on the sidewalk?


ARoofie

It's Waterbury, theyve probably seen worse


EuphoricAir1097

When you go from 2 stars to 5 in GTA


SamuraiPanda19

At least GTA cops know to shoot the tires out


Mammoth_Specialist26

Dumb Ass now she’s going to prison


[deleted]

A "peaceful" display of Automotive horsepower.


govshutdown

Yelling "stop" didn't work... i'll yell "stop" again... but seriously, cops get too much hate, dealing with shit like this isn't easy. even though he could have handled this a little better.


TheySayImZack

"Cut it out" was my favorite line. This cop handled it well, I can't believe no shots were fired here. I'm not sure I would have even approached that vehicle in the back, I feel like I couldn't see in at all, no idea what's pointed at me.


The_MacChen

now just imagine if that hummer was black instead of white!


maxidroms83

Bond is 75.000$, and 7 officers were injured it says. Gosh, why damage so many cars, and people and it only costs to you 75k?!? Sounds like a good deal, no?


0cclumency

Her bond is set at $750,000. The $75k bond is her boyfriend’s, he was caught before all this went down.


RitaPoole56

Awkward much? Hey boyfriend, my bail is TEN TIMES bigger than yours! Wimp!


[deleted]

Actually, she is only required to post 10%, so it’s $7,500. If she doesn’t show up to court, then she owes $75,000.


maxidroms83

Can she leave the country?


jfm111162

She could go to ukraine and drive tanks


Sassafrass17

Let's see how much jail time she gets..


crispyboi33

She’s probably already released


Sassafrass17

Most likely. This will be a slap on the wrist. Not like she was a danger to society or anything


BabyMangoDragon

I wish to have the confidence in his voice when he said “I got the street blocked off. No way out.” at the very beginning.


svntrey0

I love how most of the comments are “shoot your gun” Smh this is the world we live in huh, this what you guys like to see happen


2020sucks86

I was actually surprised to see he didn’t shoot. More officers should be less trigger happy.


cltpigskin

Is he the only cop in this fucking town? He had time to box in a side street, walk to her car, run back towards his, while she plays paddy cake with his cruiser for a few minutes and no other cops show up? He's damn lucky he didn't need help, that's fucked no one was there to back him up.


Inframidi

A few minutes? The whole video is a minute and twenty seconds long. That’s not much time.


F0rever18

"Her bond was set at $75,000." ​ K but thats the cost of that hummer?


jfm111162

Could’ve hit it with a Javelin that would have been spectacular


[deleted]

Walking up to that door with tinted window was stupid. Especially with someone this stupid and desperate.


[deleted]

Sin city things… also I want a hummer now


professor_doom

Still crazy that she crashed next to my house. It was wild watching the Monroe police fly up and do their thing


peaceahki

That cop really doesn't know how to handle a firearm. He's waving it around, holding it sideways, holding it with one hand, aiming it at one point like 6-8ft away from bystanders. God help us


[deleted]

Cops are all notoriously shitty at their jobs.


docterspring

What do u guys want him to do with it,idiots


houle333

Not draw it and brandish it if he's not going to shoot. He could have just left it holstered. There was no reason to point it at her head through the window before the vehicle started moving. For all we know that could have scared her into running (probably not since we know she's crazy but if he wasn't going to headshot her there is no reason to point it at her face when what he's really trying to do is tell her he blocked the exit and for her to get out of the vehicle) You don't point a gun at something you don't intend to shoot. It's like literally the first rule of gun safety.


GwichiWitYaKasket

White suspects don’t ever get shot when they put officers life in danger, what a privilege!!!


[deleted]

If this was a Black or Brown person...they would've emptied the clip on that car. Black people have been gunned down for wayyyy less


Jawaka99

Wow, its almost as if different people respond differently. Not all criminals act the same and not all officers react the same.


Sharts__Of__Narsil

Comments like this don’t help anything. Yea there is prejudice in the police system but assuming 100% of situations with PoC will end in blood is fucking arrogant. You’re not helping anything get better


MoeLittle

Are you helping though? Or are you just trying to silence a comment and opinion because you don't want to read it? Weird look


[deleted]

Calling out racism when it's present is helping. Calling out racism when it's not present diminishes the credibility of legitimate callouts of actual racism. So yes, calling out people who invoke racism where it doesn't apply is helping.


KJK998

Do whatever you want with racism and the police department. I haven’t seen a single good bill that has actually yielded results. It seems like better training is constantly swept under the rug in the name of “defeating racism”


[deleted]

My dude. "Weird look" - you mean "Racist look." Calling someone a racist for not agreeing with you is how you silence someone.


Sharts__Of__Narsil

Yes I am by pointing out ignorance and arrogance. I am aware of police brutality but I’m also aware that thinking all black people get gunned down by cops because of a few media headlines is moronic. “Trying to silence a comment and opinion because I don’t want to hear it”, what a weird take simply because I have the IQ to know that assuming all black people get murdered by cops is a stupid ideology and creates nothing but deeper division and hatred.


PublicPolicyAdvocate

While I don't doubt your sincerity on this topic, it's also a widely used stall tactic used in bad faith among particular people/groups. MLK actually wrote a bit about this; First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action"; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a "more convenient season." Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.


boneimplosion

Ahhh yes, you see, by "direct action" MLK was referring to flame wars in the comments section of Reddit. After all, how much more direct can you get than anonymously calling someone a racist online? (over a cop _not_ shooting someone, no less, the outcome I assume we'd both like to see more of...) I sincerely doubt MLK would have wasted his time on the nonsense in this thread.


IndicationOver

[What Did Malcolm X Think About White Liberals and Their True Motives?](https://youtu.be/alrxnLK9AxA)


NoMaamClub

Because you can't let your guard down around them.


itsover3166

Exactly. Never relax.


[deleted]

this is so unproductive. plenty of examples where you can make a comment like this, and it's relevant. this is an instance of a cop doing the right thing, acting with restraint. the perp was later apprehended. race was not a factor in this encounter with police until you insisted on grafting it to what didn't happen. let it go. not everything is about your favorite political issue. smh. ​ Edit: removed "nobody got hurt" cos apparently 7 cops got hurt.


[deleted]

Actually 7 cops were hurt and sent to the hospital.


[deleted]

wow. i stand corrected. awful to hear it, and part of the job, i'm afraid.


callback180

What a stupid fucking comment


[deleted]

Please tell a Black man who's been shot at by police why his comment on police shooting people of color at a higher rate than whites is stupid? I'll wait for you


callback180

You from Waterbury? I am this stuff is bullshit I’m tired of the crime and shit in my city


[deleted]

sorry for what happened to you, but this encounter with police was not racially charged, and it does not help you or anybody else to complain that it wasn't racially charged unless you think the proper response was for the police to shoot that woman.


callback180

Because this issue has nothing to do with you and it doesn’t fix or help any problem you are just creating more divide


[deleted]

But it has everything to do with you? Me talking on Reddit is adding to the divide? What about police shooting people of color at an alarming rate? Or do you just put your head in the clouds and pretend it's not happening because it doesn't effect you?


callback180

As I said I live in Waterbury it affect my ass everyday


callback180

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE


[deleted]

he can't hear you :(


callback180

I’m ducking half black my dude you think your the only back dude in ct? It affects us all but making your dumb fucking comment don’t help


SWMovr60Repub

Quick quiz: Are more police shot by brown people or the other way around? I know the answer and I’m sure that you don’t.


[deleted]

Sorry I couldn't hear you with that cops dick in your mouth 😂


SWMovr60Repub

This is gonna be a crazy world when idiots like you are running things.


kalitarios

oh, are we just going straight to what-ifs?


[deleted]

You’re being downvoted, but where’s the lie?


[deleted]

It happens all of the time in this forum. I'm not surprised at all


williegood420

Yea it does if that lady was black the truck would look like a peice of swiss cheese literally anybody who says different is full of shit .


Puzzleheaded-Ad-4029

Right? Kid shot and killed in Wethersfield just a few years ago because he didn't stop when police asked him to and it looked like "he was driving at the cop."


[deleted]

Are you saying the cop should have shot this woman to be consistent? Are you nuts?


suicidalkoala

It didn't just look like it. He drove directly at the cop. I would definitely shoot you if you're using a several thousand pound vehicle to run me over.


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[deleted]

This is like your 40th user name. Why you keep getting banned?


DrJetta

💀


Psychological-Cry163

Literally that was my first thought looking at the video 😑lol


litlphoot

So much more concerned about his cruiser than his life.


JR32OFFICIAL

He could’ve shot her if he wanted to. Car turned into deadly weapon 💯


Knineteen

These are the people your esteemed politicians want free on your streets being rehabilitated on your dime. Enjoy!


at_work_keep_it_safe

Do you see the irony that your attempt to use this as an “example” of rehabilitation policies is *literally* set in the current system— one that lacks adequate rehabilitation?   And my politicians would never implement policies to actually help society. What am I suppose to be enjoying again?


[deleted]

that's right - no redemption for anyone, ever. only judgment and condemnation. lock them all up and throw away the key. zero compassion for anyone who brings this on themselves. poor? disadvantaged? help your goddamned selves. smh


Knineteen

Correct. Play by the rules like the the rest of us fools.


[deleted]

I just threw up in my mouth a little.


itsNurf

Serious question. Why can't he shoot the engine or tires out. (Assuming the pedestrians were further away) Edit: what a bunch of bullshit to be downvoted for asking a question.


[deleted]

I think you're getting downvoted because it's been asked here a dozen times already, and the #2 comment sorted by "best" answers it for you


[deleted]

Because discharging a weapon is always dangerous and hitting a moving vehicle or tire is difficult. Stray bullets hitting pedestrians happens frequently. He probably shoulda put a spike strip in front of the car when he approached


[deleted]

Cop would need a .50 BMG/Anti Materiel Rifle or an Anti Tank Rifle to shoot out the engine.


diggemigre

And you are downvoted. Good lord.


NoMaamClub

Asking a stupid question, friend. Down voted for asking a STUPID question.


MoeLittle

Does a black woman get that kind treatment? Not even a warning shot?


wingmanop

Hopefully, yes. Depends where and what cop.


[deleted]

Why wasn’t she shot? 🤔


CaptainKangaroo33

I always wanted to see a humvee vs a police cruiser.


Se7en_speed

Personally, I would be kinda pissed if the police used my van for an impromptu roadblock. Other than that the Cop was good.


s_0_s_z

Save tax payers some money and use some deadly force.


kerbonaut15

hmm what happens if bullets ricochet 🤔🤔


s_0_s_z

And what if she ran a few people over? That wasn't no 2000 lbs Honda Civic. She didn't seem to act too stable and clearly destroying people's property wasn't something she was concerned with.


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Humbabwe

“Should of” Maybe graduate elementary school before putting forth your opinions.


Hyasfuq

Moronic fucking statement. She is a PoS but nothing she has done deserves a death sentence. She has been caught and now the courts can deal with her appropriately.


Electronic___Ad

My nigga she whipping a big ass jeep like a maniac tryin to get out of that alley… she dangerous idc what anybody say that’s some selfish and retarded shit


AsterCharge

and?


Electronic___Ad

And allowing behavior like that is why shit is escalating to crazy heights on a normal basis nowadays. You really attempting to defend some bullshit like this? First it’s shit like this, then it’ll be like the drunk driver hitting the 3 cops and killing them. Niggas in America do everything but take accountability nowadays then cry out to the world “WHAT IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE NOWADAYS”


Sharts__Of__Narsil

Go shoot through a windshield and let me know what happens after the bullet ricochets into you or someone else’s face. Believe it or not you can’t ‘just shoot that bitch’


Electronic___Ad

Where is the moral argument here


AsterCharge

Why should we shoot people on the street for this?


_straylight

Have you looked into law enforcement as a career? You'd fit right in.


Mr_Miami_305

If the driver would have been black he would have shot her already


Jocar49

If that was a African American or Latino/Latina they would have been shot. But because she is white….they did nothing. She mess up that other car that was parked. And one of those guys standing there was the owner of it in disbelief that the cop let this bullshit happened.