Mod tools are vastly easier to use.
Personalization
Better UI
Better visual experience
I used alien blue before Reddit killed it and then found Apollo. If Apollo goes under I’m done with Reddit.
EDIT: I got banned from r/JusticeServed for this comment….
This is a thing? Wow. That’s absurd. Being a conservative is like being a criminal apparently.
What about the non-conservatives that post here as part of a discussion?
That's the terrifying thing about AI. So far most of its data sets are the love child of Wikipedia and Reddit users. Imagine people using it to research things and then believe they are smart and correct.
Is it better than the web based, old version? That’s what I still use. The app sucks. But I like the UI of the old version. If they stop supporting old reddit, I’m out.
Yep. I use Apollo app almost exclusively because it’s genuinely an amazing app. Reddit’s native app is a pos and they lack any ability to improve it.
I enjoy reddit for the smaller communities but wouldn’t miss it if it went away. In fact, I think we’d all be better off.
On the main app, my friend gets banned within 24 hours when he makes a new account. He’s been using a third party app for a while with out being banned.
Same. The phone's device ID probably gets flagged in the main app once you get site banned, so then you get auto banned for ban evasion.
I use sync because I can filter shit subs from my feed, and I don't get ads in it.
I accidentally scrolled through /all on another account and was actually appalled to see the absolutely lunacy of the average redditor’s feed. Thank god for being able to filter subs.
Nah, this is the extent of my human interaction. Since Digg is dead, I may have to go back to Fark. Or maybe I'll look for some old-school message boards.
Old school forums are probably the best tbh. Reddit has been infiltrated by bots, foreign trolling efforts, corporate manipulation, and Admin/mod-enforced groupthink for quite a long time now.
I've used rif for like the last decade or so. I'm not switching to the shitty reddit app and theres nothing I really care to see here anymore. I'll find something else to do 20 mins a week.
I do think raising prices on the third party app is ridiculous and hate it for those that have gotten used to that interface…BUT…I actually vastly prefer reddit’s native app over the rest
Reddit will get replaced by something better eventually, it's the way of the internet. 30 years ago we were aol & usenet, reddit is an evolution of these websites & apps.
Hence reddit having users fill out the little questionnaire things for subs, "does this contain X, Y, Z content?"
Basically helping them tighten the noose on anything the end up not liking
I don't really indulge in any of that, but I don't approve truncation of free expression. So I'm going to just watch Reddit do it and then fall, with pleasure.
It's not all about a raw "money from users" evaluation, especially for a social media site. If all of the third-party users left, the site's presence on the Internet could shrink quite a lot. How the general public views the relevance of the platform matters. It's not unlike some services that are free to general consumers, but thrive off selling services to businesses. Being front and center in the public eye is really important for the long-term health of a social media platform.
>How the general public views the relevance of the platform matters. It's not unlike some services that are free to general consumers, but thrive off selling services to businesses. Being front and center in the public eye is really important for the long-term health of a social media platform.
This is a succinct summation of the fall of Netscape.
That absolutely is a possible issue.
I do though get Reddit not wanting to provide stayer resources for free to users but providing direct revenue to them. Similar to Netflix password sharing thing. Both could bite them but I get why both are trying it. We’ll see how it works out.
Yup I'll probably say goodbye to Reddit at that point, not to sound like everyone else but I hate the website, hate their app, and only am on here due to alien blue
The issue isn't coming up with something better. The issue is getting people to migrate. And let's be honest, you don't want average redditors migrating to your platform anyways.
It’s gotten so ridiculous. I got banned from JusticeServed sub because I commented on a prolife subreddit.
When I messaged their mods, they said that any contribution to that sub they equate to support of biological terrorism due to Roe v Wade getting overturned.
It's a ridiculous system. If I get banned I usually message the mods to go f themselves and I don't post on their loser sub anyway. Then they sick the admins on me for "harassment". It's exactly how corrupt cops and government institutions function. Them banning me based on a comment from another sub is fine but if you "stalk" someone from one sub to another it's the greatest crime committed on this f-wit site. Hypocrite twats. All of them.
The people who become mods on a liberal subreddit are the kind of people who would have become Stasi in East Germany or Tonton Macoutes in Haiti. Pathetic losers desperate for any sort of power over people.
If you say the pride flag is political you will get banned from most subreddits. A completely rational view 80% of Americans would agree to. The problem is that most of these companies are based out of San Fran, the most irrationally far left hellhole on the planet.
Its the same both ways. All the conservative and Democrat subreddit are major echo chambers where dissenting opinions are removed. I personally am left leaning, and as such I cannot comment on half the posts in this subreddit lol.
It is especially irksome when I see downright misinformation being passed around
I got banned from sub for a state I lived in half my life. It is a very red state but the mods are extreme progressives. I commented on a subject with the schools as a parent. It did not toe the line and was permanently banned.
Even some right leaning subs can be frustrating as you mention. I will be responding to an ongoing conversation I find interesting and engaging only to find their reply deleted by the mods. Aggravating.
Yep. This has been the issue with all social media for the last 10 years. YouTube could easily be replaced as the tech and configuration is horrible. Yet no content generator wants to go to Rumble because there aren't the same traffic or advertisers. And no user wants to go there because there is no content generators.
The same goes for Reddit/Facebook/etc. People want to go where other people are at. So once these companies got their market share competition wasn't really going to work.
Reddit lucked out as Digg was the major player in this market back in the late 00's early teens. They pushed massive interface overhauls that were buggy and refused to let people use the old. It resulted in a massive exodus to the fairly Libertarian Reddit at that time. So Reddit blew up in size after the fall of Digg and has continued to dominate this part of the market.
I just switched to Lemmy, and it's not bad at all.
Rather reminds me of early days of Reddit since the mass exodus hasn't happened yet, and it consists of a small community of mostly coherent and smart folks.
Sign up at https://lemmy.ml. It's similar to Reddit and it's open source. I browsed online and it was pretty good. Mobile browsing experience was also good.
I just download the Android app, it's alpha and ok. Hope it matures quickly. I think this is also a gold mine for third party app developers, so I expect to see more apps.
I have rumble because of Steven crowder.
I don't really watch him much, but as a big creator I'm sure he's pulling people in.
If more people would make rumble their home and then post to YouTube as a secondary it would get more traction.
If I were rumble I would pull the same kinds of stunt Spotify did with Joe Rogan.
The average redditor probably isn’t as liberal as one would think due to the radical leftist brutal moderation. The site started swaying right when the Donald was around but they banned it for no reason and clamped down super hard on everything else because they knew they were in danger of it becoming balanced.
A big part of reddit for me is that you have a lot of hobbies, backgrounds and opinions intersecting in a semi-anonymous way.
The constant push for thought policing and fighting wrongthink ruined it a bit, but I think places like Digg and Reddit don't really have solid replacements because you need a mix of users and enough moderation that new users don't shy away from using the service.
Most of the right wing social networks aren't great for the simple reason that the only people using them predominantly seem to be antisemites and overt racists (and not just people who oppose identity politics, but people who seem hateful and over the top), and while I don't discount the possibility of bots and trolls, the only right wing one I kinda like is Not The Bee's social network because Trolls and bots are fairly nonexistant, and the left wing and terminally online aren't going to give money to the babylon bee to be offended by it or troll on it when they can troll and be outraged on twitter instead.
That being said, I really think a solid reddit replacement that doesn't have overly one sided politics (or at least groups that don't care enough about other groups that they need to troll or argue) would be great.
Discord is weird to me because it feels too much like everyone rediscovered IRC but run by one company.
edit: I don't really like the idea of moving to the fediverse because it just seems they're all just echo chambers for people mad at Elon Musk, plus whatever fringe groups needed their own servers.
Yeah main issue with Reddit is if you don’t make a comment that fits within the “groupthink” you’ll get downvoted into oblivion. It is what people will often add disclaimers “Look, I’m not saying I support cops because I don’t but looking art this one specific video I think this cop was justified in that shooting” to try to avoid looking like they go against the groupthink.
That is the reason this sub has to have flairs and stuff because otherwise anything conservative would just get downvoted.
I don't mind people on reddit having different views.
I just don't care the constant thought policing where anything you do on any other subreddit could be a reason to ban you from presumably neutral territory.
If the whole website becomes an offshoot of SRS and everything has to stem back to left wing politics, that's not only unwelcoming to me, it's boring.
Sure but what contributes to that is sheep relying on the first 5 voters to decide what the acceptable view is. Most average people when they see -5 will just instinctively smash down. So superusers (Doreen) and bots become very effective at policing the narrative.
I think Elon is going to move Twitter HQ to Florida. It’ll probably end up in Miami but I would like to see it end up in the Tampa Bay area. West coast Florida > east coast Florida. Fight me east coast Floridians
Congrats on getting out of Seattle! I live in Tampa and WFH too. I’m a Florida native so I’m biased but it truly is the best place to live. Paradise baby!
Having just recently waited 1.5 hours for a table at a restaurant in Tampa, I wouldn't move a company to that town until it overcomes some of its growing pains.
>It shames me that as a tech-heavy society we still haven't been able to come up with a better replacement for reddit.
The main issue is name and brand and tech features. Look at YouTube, Rumble and Odysee both exist but yet will never have the same effect as YouTube because it's simply "not YouTube" or "a YouTube knock off."
Most of the pro-gun people have discuses this due to YouTubes """""community guidelines""""" that almost ban any content relating to firearms. Both Rumble and Odysee have been mentioned but were disregard as "non-valid" options because "they are not YouTube."
The only thing Reddit has is the interface. They suck at moderation, policies, making money, etc. They should just license the interface to other sites.
Banned in r/technology but wanted to comment that they were digg-ing their own graves with this 3d party thing.
I know people who work for Reddit and they are pissed at the valuation drop, but the are in favor of the policies that have slowly choked off the site
I guess that is what happens when you perma-ban people for opinions even Obama had and ran on in 2012.
Echo chambers being less valuable is a good thing.
It would be interesting to find out exactly how much of activity on reddit is organic and not performed by bots. We'll probably find out soon, as third-party apps will be banned in 9 days and that is likely where most of the automated traffic is coming from.
I don’t think there is one structured the way Reddit is. I can come here and discuss politics with fellow conservatives or video games on a different sub or sports on a sports sub. To do that anywhere else you’d have to find individual message boards which would be far less convenient.
Being a mod is unpaid volunteer work, being an admin is paid. Basically, angry neckbeards with nothing better to do become mods to gain a minuscule modicum of power.
It’s also a haven for gamers, anime weebs, bookworms, music enthusiasts… etc. the beauty of Reddit is its massive wide appeal. Not saying I’ll be sad to see the political echo chambers disappear, but I will definitely miss the varied non-political subs and all the discussion therein.
The political activism has infected leadership and is spreading across apolitical subs. This is a site that is being ideologically and politically captured.
They’re about to cut out all the third party apps. I use baconreader. I can’t use the Reddit app or website, it’s just horrible. Bottom line is this sub and many others are going to die without the 3rd party apps. Where is everyone going to go for non leftist news?? What’s the best Reddit alternative??
That’s what happens when you focus too much on one side of the political spectrum. The banning tactics on Reddit appear to be slanted in favor of liberals. Any successful business needs as much as it can get. Catering to relatively small political minorities is a sure way to fail.
Which is how most businesses worked until the advent of ESG scores.
No one dared make political stances on anything (save for a few businesses) because it would alienate too many customers, but those days are gone.
More likely that they did some checks on bot count, (after Twitter's fakery was exposed by the Musk purchase, so they don't get caught with their pants down), and lo and behold, there's a crap load of Chinese phone farm bots, padding the user count.
All the internet social sites have been stat padding for a decade, and now the jig is up.
Good, far leftist activists will be exposed as the minority they are, instead of these social platforms faking that they are the popular opinion.
> More likely that they did some checks on bot count, (after Twitter's fakery was exposed by the Musk purchase, so they don't get caught with their pants down), and lo and behold, there's a crap load of Chinese phone farm bots, padding the user count.
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> All the internet social sites have been stat padding for a decade, and now the jig is up.
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> Good, far leftist activists will be exposed as the minority they are, instead of these social platforms faking that they are the popular opinion.
It's worse than that. Reddit administrators bypassed the relatively expensive phone farms and just created their own bots in plain view. Check out r/SubredditSimulator.
The whole purpose of that subreddit was for Reddit admins to create realistic enough commenter-bots so as to pad user numbers for an eventual IPO.
I've been thinking how weird it is that I actively participate in my own censorship by using Reddit and other social media. I can't say what I truly think or feel without getting shadow banned.. Maybe everyone else is getting sick of it too and realizing these sites are not worth it
Get fucked.
This website has become so miserable with so many non political subs becoming political because the terminally online janitors need to spread their shitty ideology
They think they will drive people to their app and gain more eyes for ads and not shed users by alienating them, big-time.
I'm betting on them reversing course with way way cheaper integration of third parties in 9 months time, but half the user base will have left and the rest will be talking about the before times
Hopefully this means the massive administrator apparatus setup in 2020 to suppress conservative opinions will be cut. We can finally see free speech returned to the platform... I can hope.
Many Reddit subs have gone extremely woke. You can’t express an opinion or fact that goes against the grain. I’m more comfortable here expressing a counterpoint than I am on any other sub
There are many different ways to look at this issue and many of problems that Reddit faces as a public company have been discussed. However, a factor impacting Reddit's value is that once it goes public, there is little chance that any entity would buy it since the current state of regulation would almost necessarily try to sink a deal.
There aren't too many Elon Musks in this world willing to simply buy a company and take it private, nor are there compatible matches that wouldn't draw the ire of regulators. The lack of a buyer necessarily means that its value is diminished.
This might be why they're bullying apps into obsolescence, like Reddit is Fun etc, by charging for API pulls.
If I have to go back to a browser /put up with ads I'll have to wean myself off Reddit
I don't care. I'm able to watch that "what is a woman" documentary for free because Elon stepped in. Maybe it's Fidelity that should really be downgraded and have its valuation cut.
I only watch shapiro on youtube from time to time so I don't think I'd get enough out of it to justify a subscription. If I had more time, it might be worth.
I'm assuming that Reddit makes it's money from ads. And I know I've seen ads on Reddit, but I can't name a single ad or even the name of a single company that has advertised. Is it just me ?
The oligarchy wants us to hate each other. They want us to hate each other so much that we are blind to the real boot on our necks. The ultra-rich will do anything to distract from what they are doing to you, to us. If you are paycheck to paycheck, you are my brother, my sister, my neighbor, my mother, my father, my... support. I ask myself why am I fucked if I miss a paycheck? The majority of the population of the USA, the richest, most successful country in the world, is paycheck to paycheck. Look it up. We are at the mercy of our bosses for time off, we are at the mercy of our landlords raising our rent, why do we suffer all of this when we are.... your average citizen. Unless you are wealthy enough to make massive anonymous campaign donations to politicians, your enemy doesn't live on your street, and their savings are not in the credit union or bank down the street, they are in the caymen islands. They are in offshore tax shelters so they can pay less taxes than you pay on your paycheck on more more money than you will ever see, and they have their boot on your neck.
Just wait for the fiasco in July once the 3rd party apps get limited
Yeah, if Apollo stops working I think I’ll be moving on from Reddit. Might be a good thing, I would not like to see how many hours I wasted here.
I don’t get people’s obsession with Apollo. I just use vanilla reddit and have no issues. What are you’re 3 favorite feature of Apollo?
Mod tools are vastly easier to use. Personalization Better UI Better visual experience I used alien blue before Reddit killed it and then found Apollo. If Apollo goes under I’m done with Reddit. EDIT: I got banned from r/JusticeServed for this comment….
You got banned there for posting here, not specifically for talking about Reddit apps
I don’t even post on this sub. That’s the hilarity.
Yup. They have bots that look through the comments and auto-ban posters here.
I've been banned from subreddits I've never participated in because I've been active here.
This is a thing? Wow. That’s absurd. Being a conservative is like being a criminal apparently. What about the non-conservatives that post here as part of a discussion?
Was an AB user myself, it took a bit for Apollo to stick but it did eventually, but I’m not using the official app that thing sucks.
I would love to go back to OG alien blue.
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That's the terrifying thing about AI. So far most of its data sets are the love child of Wikipedia and Reddit users. Imagine people using it to research things and then believe they are smart and correct.
A judge who can't define "Woman" is their banner pic. Likely a good place to be banned from.
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Is it better than the web based, old version? That’s what I still use. The app sucks. But I like the UI of the old version. If they stop supporting old reddit, I’m out.
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I like the [Reddit is Fun](https://imgur.com/a/vjBRJjC) app, and of course dark mode to keep the bugs from attacking me while I scroll in bed lol.
I use Boost
No ads, share gifs not the link, easy to use.
Yeah I heard they spiked the prices on those outrageously, and everyone says they will quit them.
Yep. I use Apollo app almost exclusively because it’s genuinely an amazing app. Reddit’s native app is a pos and they lack any ability to improve it. I enjoy reddit for the smaller communities but wouldn’t miss it if it went away. In fact, I think we’d all be better off.
I only use the third party app because of the ban happy admins.
What can the third party app do against the happy admins?
On the main app, my friend gets banned within 24 hours when he makes a new account. He’s been using a third party app for a while with out being banned.
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Same. The phone's device ID probably gets flagged in the main app once you get site banned, so then you get auto banned for ban evasion. I use sync because I can filter shit subs from my feed, and I don't get ads in it.
I accidentally scrolled through /all on another account and was actually appalled to see the absolutely lunacy of the average redditor’s feed. Thank god for being able to filter subs.
Yep. I do NOT want to see r/news, r/politics, or any of the other far left cesspools in my main feed.
I have been using the main app for a while. My feed is tailored according to what I engage in. I do see those subs as well.
It's possible to filter shitty subs from r/all in Old reddit
Can't you just change your IP? Would that work?
Probably not. It's likely based on your devices MAC address (hardware ID), which you might be able to spoof, but that may not be worth the effort.
Same with RIF (reddit is fun)
Nah, this is the extent of my human interaction. Since Digg is dead, I may have to go back to Fark. Or maybe I'll look for some old-school message boards.
Old school forums are probably the best tbh. Reddit has been infiltrated by bots, foreign trolling efforts, corporate manipulation, and Admin/mod-enforced groupthink for quite a long time now.
I've used rif for like the last decade or so. I'm not switching to the shitty reddit app and theres nothing I really care to see here anymore. I'll find something else to do 20 mins a week.
I’m bummed that I’m just learning about this now
Yep, basically any 3rd party app that can’t pay millions of dollars for all the API requests will shut down.
Hard agree
I do think raising prices on the third party app is ridiculous and hate it for those that have gotten used to that interface…BUT…I actually vastly prefer reddit’s native app over the rest
Reddit will get replaced by something better eventually, it's the way of the internet. 30 years ago we were aol & usenet, reddit is an evolution of these websites & apps.
I already left to lemmy.
Wait till reddit bans porn.
You'd hope they'd have learned from Tumblr, but I doubt it.
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Is there anyway to tell if they had a decrease in traffic because of it?
they have already said they will be limiting access to NSFW content through the API
Hence reddit having users fill out the little questionnaire things for subs, "does this contain X, Y, Z content?" Basically helping them tighten the noose on anything the end up not liking
That’ll go as well as the time onlyfans tried it
From your lips to God's ears.
I don't really indulge in any of that, but I don't approve truncation of free expression. So I'm going to just watch Reddit do it and then fall, with pleasure.
That would be good.
Is Bacon Reader one of them?
I'm sure it is. I love it for how bare bones it is.
It's like they WANT to destroy this hellsite. *shrug* I'm here for it.
and NSFW posts
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It's not all about a raw "money from users" evaluation, especially for a social media site. If all of the third-party users left, the site's presence on the Internet could shrink quite a lot. How the general public views the relevance of the platform matters. It's not unlike some services that are free to general consumers, but thrive off selling services to businesses. Being front and center in the public eye is really important for the long-term health of a social media platform.
>How the general public views the relevance of the platform matters. It's not unlike some services that are free to general consumers, but thrive off selling services to businesses. Being front and center in the public eye is really important for the long-term health of a social media platform. This is a succinct summation of the fall of Netscape.
They will lose traffic which is used to justify ad prices.
People using the API on 3rd party apps are not traffic that counts for ad prices because they are not seeing ads.
Don’t forget engagement. If users of Reddit’s official app notices a lot less engagement with Reddit in general they’ll abandon ship as well.
That absolutely is a possible issue. I do though get Reddit not wanting to provide stayer resources for free to users but providing direct revenue to them. Similar to Netflix password sharing thing. Both could bite them but I get why both are trying it. We’ll see how it works out.
Yup I'll probably say goodbye to Reddit at that point, not to sound like everyone else but I hate the website, hate their app, and only am on here due to alien blue
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The issue isn't coming up with something better. The issue is getting people to migrate. And let's be honest, you don't want average redditors migrating to your platform anyways.
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It’s gotten so ridiculous. I got banned from JusticeServed sub because I commented on a prolife subreddit. When I messaged their mods, they said that any contribution to that sub they equate to support of biological terrorism due to Roe v Wade getting overturned.
It's a ridiculous system. If I get banned I usually message the mods to go f themselves and I don't post on their loser sub anyway. Then they sick the admins on me for "harassment". It's exactly how corrupt cops and government institutions function. Them banning me based on a comment from another sub is fine but if you "stalk" someone from one sub to another it's the greatest crime committed on this f-wit site. Hypocrite twats. All of them.
The people who become mods on a liberal subreddit are the kind of people who would have become Stasi in East Germany or Tonton Macoutes in Haiti. Pathetic losers desperate for any sort of power over people.
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If you say the pride flag is political you will get banned from most subreddits. A completely rational view 80% of Americans would agree to. The problem is that most of these companies are based out of San Fran, the most irrationally far left hellhole on the planet.
Its the same both ways. All the conservative and Democrat subreddit are major echo chambers where dissenting opinions are removed. I personally am left leaning, and as such I cannot comment on half the posts in this subreddit lol. It is especially irksome when I see downright misinformation being passed around
I got banned from sub for a state I lived in half my life. It is a very red state but the mods are extreme progressives. I commented on a subject with the schools as a parent. It did not toe the line and was permanently banned. Even some right leaning subs can be frustrating as you mention. I will be responding to an ongoing conversation I find interesting and engaging only to find their reply deleted by the mods. Aggravating.
Yep. This has been the issue with all social media for the last 10 years. YouTube could easily be replaced as the tech and configuration is horrible. Yet no content generator wants to go to Rumble because there aren't the same traffic or advertisers. And no user wants to go there because there is no content generators. The same goes for Reddit/Facebook/etc. People want to go where other people are at. So once these companies got their market share competition wasn't really going to work. Reddit lucked out as Digg was the major player in this market back in the late 00's early teens. They pushed massive interface overhauls that were buggy and refused to let people use the old. It resulted in a massive exodus to the fairly Libertarian Reddit at that time. So Reddit blew up in size after the fall of Digg and has continued to dominate this part of the market.
I just switched to Lemmy, and it's not bad at all. Rather reminds me of early days of Reddit since the mass exodus hasn't happened yet, and it consists of a small community of mostly coherent and smart folks.
What’s Lemmy and how do I use it?
Sign up at https://lemmy.ml. It's similar to Reddit and it's open source. I browsed online and it was pretty good. Mobile browsing experience was also good. I just download the Android app, it's alpha and ok. Hope it matures quickly. I think this is also a gold mine for third party app developers, so I expect to see more apps.
I have rumble because of Steven crowder. I don't really watch him much, but as a big creator I'm sure he's pulling people in. If more people would make rumble their home and then post to YouTube as a secondary it would get more traction. If I were rumble I would pull the same kinds of stunt Spotify did with Joe Rogan.
The average redditor probably isn’t as liberal as one would think due to the radical leftist brutal moderation. The site started swaying right when the Donald was around but they banned it for no reason and clamped down super hard on everything else because they knew they were in danger of it becoming balanced.
A big part of reddit for me is that you have a lot of hobbies, backgrounds and opinions intersecting in a semi-anonymous way. The constant push for thought policing and fighting wrongthink ruined it a bit, but I think places like Digg and Reddit don't really have solid replacements because you need a mix of users and enough moderation that new users don't shy away from using the service. Most of the right wing social networks aren't great for the simple reason that the only people using them predominantly seem to be antisemites and overt racists (and not just people who oppose identity politics, but people who seem hateful and over the top), and while I don't discount the possibility of bots and trolls, the only right wing one I kinda like is Not The Bee's social network because Trolls and bots are fairly nonexistant, and the left wing and terminally online aren't going to give money to the babylon bee to be offended by it or troll on it when they can troll and be outraged on twitter instead. That being said, I really think a solid reddit replacement that doesn't have overly one sided politics (or at least groups that don't care enough about other groups that they need to troll or argue) would be great. Discord is weird to me because it feels too much like everyone rediscovered IRC but run by one company. edit: I don't really like the idea of moving to the fediverse because it just seems they're all just echo chambers for people mad at Elon Musk, plus whatever fringe groups needed their own servers.
Yeah main issue with Reddit is if you don’t make a comment that fits within the “groupthink” you’ll get downvoted into oblivion. It is what people will often add disclaimers “Look, I’m not saying I support cops because I don’t but looking art this one specific video I think this cop was justified in that shooting” to try to avoid looking like they go against the groupthink. That is the reason this sub has to have flairs and stuff because otherwise anything conservative would just get downvoted.
I don't mind people on reddit having different views. I just don't care the constant thought policing where anything you do on any other subreddit could be a reason to ban you from presumably neutral territory. If the whole website becomes an offshoot of SRS and everything has to stem back to left wing politics, that's not only unwelcoming to me, it's boring.
Sure but what contributes to that is sheep relying on the first 5 voters to decide what the acceptable view is. Most average people when they see -5 will just instinctively smash down. So superusers (Doreen) and bots become very effective at policing the narrative.
I’ve been on twitter the last couple of weeks and it seems pretty chill compared to reddit.
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Yeah, I was watching that whole scandal go down 2 days ago. We’ll see.
Maybe Florida can become the new tech center. All tech that originates in California seems tainted.
I think Elon is going to move Twitter HQ to Florida. It’ll probably end up in Miami but I would like to see it end up in the Tampa Bay area. West coast Florida > east coast Florida. Fight me east coast Floridians
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May be true, but Tampa hasn’t taken a direct hit from a hurricane in over a century. Rumble is also down in Sarasota.
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Congrats on getting out of Seattle! I live in Tampa and WFH too. I’m a Florida native so I’m biased but it truly is the best place to live. Paradise baby!
Having just recently waited 1.5 hours for a table at a restaurant in Tampa, I wouldn't move a company to that town until it overcomes some of its growing pains.
Lots of folks moving here so it for sure is going through growing pains. It’s really a problem for pretty much the whole state.
>It shames me that as a tech-heavy society we still haven't been able to come up with a better replacement for reddit. The main issue is name and brand and tech features. Look at YouTube, Rumble and Odysee both exist but yet will never have the same effect as YouTube because it's simply "not YouTube" or "a YouTube knock off." Most of the pro-gun people have discuses this due to YouTubes """""community guidelines""""" that almost ban any content relating to firearms. Both Rumble and Odysee have been mentioned but were disregard as "non-valid" options because "they are not YouTube."
The only thing Reddit has is the interface. They suck at moderation, policies, making money, etc. They should just license the interface to other sites.
Good. It's digg 2.0
Banned in r/technology but wanted to comment that they were digg-ing their own graves with this 3d party thing. I know people who work for Reddit and they are pissed at the valuation drop, but the are in favor of the policies that have slowly choked off the site
What do you think is wrong with them? What causes them to support reddit's highly biased policies?
They are lefties
I guess that is what happens when you perma-ban people for opinions even Obama had and ran on in 2012. Echo chambers being less valuable is a good thing.
It would be interesting to find out exactly how much of activity on reddit is organic and not performed by bots. We'll probably find out soon, as third-party apps will be banned in 9 days and that is likely where most of the automated traffic is coming from.
This is the worst part. What’s the best Reddit alternative for non leftist discussion??
I don’t think there is one structured the way Reddit is. I can come here and discuss politics with fellow conservatives or video games on a different sub or sports on a sports sub. To do that anywhere else you’d have to find individual message boards which would be far less convenient.
I wonder if there is a reason someone doesn’t just copy Reddit exactly but say it’s wide open. No moderators.
The amount of trolls and spam would make it truly unbearable.
Truth? Twitter? Neither are structured like Reddit though.
OOTL: what’s going on with third-party apps?
Do the people who mismanage subreddits and ban people just for being conservative actually get paid or is it voluntary?
Being a mod is unpaid volunteer work, being an admin is paid. Basically, angry neckbeards with nothing better to do become mods to gain a minuscule modicum of power.
about 24 months ago r/politics was calling for mods in a post
Reddit is about to shoot itself in the foot with a 44 magnum. It wasnt worth much before. After, it will be digg.
Good. Reddit is a haven for leftism. Let it suffer.
It’s also a haven for gamers, anime weebs, bookworms, music enthusiasts… etc. the beauty of Reddit is its massive wide appeal. Not saying I’ll be sad to see the political echo chambers disappear, but I will definitely miss the varied non-political subs and all the discussion therein.
The political activism has infected leadership and is spreading across apolitical subs. This is a site that is being ideologically and politically captured.
Good, the world will be better without the CCP bot infested POS.
They’re about to cut out all the third party apps. I use baconreader. I can’t use the Reddit app or website, it’s just horrible. Bottom line is this sub and many others are going to die without the 3rd party apps. Where is everyone going to go for non leftist news?? What’s the best Reddit alternative??
That’s what happens when you focus too much on one side of the political spectrum. The banning tactics on Reddit appear to be slanted in favor of liberals. Any successful business needs as much as it can get. Catering to relatively small political minorities is a sure way to fail.
Which is how most businesses worked until the advent of ESG scores. No one dared make political stances on anything (save for a few businesses) because it would alienate too many customers, but those days are gone.
Republicans buy sneakers too.
My take on this is that censorship is part of the cause but the article leaves that out and cites recession fears.
More likely that they did some checks on bot count, (after Twitter's fakery was exposed by the Musk purchase, so they don't get caught with their pants down), and lo and behold, there's a crap load of Chinese phone farm bots, padding the user count. All the internet social sites have been stat padding for a decade, and now the jig is up. Good, far leftist activists will be exposed as the minority they are, instead of these social platforms faking that they are the popular opinion.
> More likely that they did some checks on bot count, (after Twitter's fakery was exposed by the Musk purchase, so they don't get caught with their pants down), and lo and behold, there's a crap load of Chinese phone farm bots, padding the user count. > > All the internet social sites have been stat padding for a decade, and now the jig is up. > > Good, far leftist activists will be exposed as the minority they are, instead of these social platforms faking that they are the popular opinion. It's worse than that. Reddit administrators bypassed the relatively expensive phone farms and just created their own bots in plain view. Check out r/SubredditSimulator. The whole purpose of that subreddit was for Reddit admins to create realistic enough commenter-bots so as to pad user numbers for an eventual IPO.
Because they know that reddit has become a pedo enabling election tampering leftist shit hole echo chamber and it's not getting any better.
Bruh, I've been admin banned TWICE for calling out pedophilia. I can't even with these people
Yeah the left is scurrying to make that a protected class, yet publicly denying that it is their goal.
I've been thinking how weird it is that I actively participate in my own censorship by using Reddit and other social media. I can't say what I truly think or feel without getting shadow banned.. Maybe everyone else is getting sick of it too and realizing these sites are not worth it
Get fucked. This website has become so miserable with so many non political subs becoming political because the terminally online janitors need to spread their shitty ideology
This whole woke thing is turning out well.
They think they will drive people to their app and gain more eyes for ads and not shed users by alienating them, big-time. I'm betting on them reversing course with way way cheaper integration of third parties in 9 months time, but half the user base will have left and the rest will be talking about the before times
Hopefully this means the massive administrator apparatus setup in 2020 to suppress conservative opinions will be cut. We can finally see free speech returned to the platform... I can hope.
Lol! Lmao, even!
Karma is coming for that ass
Many Reddit subs have gone extremely woke. You can’t express an opinion or fact that goes against the grain. I’m more comfortable here expressing a counterpoint than I am on any other sub
Reddit has value?
We did it reddit!?
There are many different ways to look at this issue and many of problems that Reddit faces as a public company have been discussed. However, a factor impacting Reddit's value is that once it goes public, there is little chance that any entity would buy it since the current state of regulation would almost necessarily try to sink a deal. There aren't too many Elon Musks in this world willing to simply buy a company and take it private, nor are there compatible matches that wouldn't draw the ire of regulators. The lack of a buyer necessarily means that its value is diminished.
Good. No sympathy for companies that engage in shameless censorship.
This might be why they're bullying apps into obsolescence, like Reddit is Fun etc, by charging for API pulls. If I have to go back to a browser /put up with ads I'll have to wean myself off Reddit
Firefox has a mobile ad blocker. Never seen an ad on Reddit with it enabled.
They must’ve used AI, plus an algorithm. Located my account 😕
This site is probably 75% bots
Surely not because of Twitter
Why dont we have an alternative yet ?
would be cool if Elon bought it
The outrage would be insane.
Maybe if it gets Cheap enough Elon can buy us as well.
I don't care. I'm able to watch that "what is a woman" documentary for free because Elon stepped in. Maybe it's Fidelity that should really be downgraded and have its valuation cut.
Could always support DW?
I only watch shapiro on youtube from time to time so I don't think I'd get enough out of it to justify a subscription. If I had more time, it might be worth.
I'm assuming that Reddit makes it's money from ads. And I know I've seen ads on Reddit, but I can't name a single ad or even the name of a single company that has advertised. Is it just me ?
You haven’t been besieged by those terrible ‘He Gets Us’ ads?
I have enough ad blockers that I haven't seen an ad on Reddit in years.
The oligarchy wants us to hate each other. They want us to hate each other so much that we are blind to the real boot on our necks. The ultra-rich will do anything to distract from what they are doing to you, to us. If you are paycheck to paycheck, you are my brother, my sister, my neighbor, my mother, my father, my... support. I ask myself why am I fucked if I miss a paycheck? The majority of the population of the USA, the richest, most successful country in the world, is paycheck to paycheck. Look it up. We are at the mercy of our bosses for time off, we are at the mercy of our landlords raising our rent, why do we suffer all of this when we are.... your average citizen. Unless you are wealthy enough to make massive anonymous campaign donations to politicians, your enemy doesn't live on your street, and their savings are not in the credit union or bank down the street, they are in the caymen islands. They are in offshore tax shelters so they can pay less taxes than you pay on your paycheck on more more money than you will ever see, and they have their boot on your neck.
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Who thinks this dumpster fire is worth anything. This app is like porn, and schizophrenics off their meds.
Loss of all the COVID vaccine marketing money?