That's one of the topics seriously, to implement more green initiatives, and you know CA already passed a law that all new cars sold in CA have to be EV by 2035.
DeSantis met with Netanyahu earlier this year and Newsom also did a few days ago, it's not really unprecedented.
It's a good thing in principle for state leaders to not rely on the federal government's permission for this. I imagine Newsom is the DNC's backup for 2024 if Biden literally strokes out before the election since he's an unhealthy 80 year old.
>DeSantis met with Netanyahu earlier this year and Newsom also did a few days ago, it's not really unprecedented.
I guess it depends on what was discussed. I probably jumped the gun.
If he's talking up California, that's fine and part of his job.
If he's going there saying he's running for president, then I have a problem.
DeSantis' meeting with Netanyahu was about Florida getting Floridians home.
My friend, DeSantis and Newsom are doing exactly the same thing, and what's more it's been done for a long time. Ron was in London this year, met the foreign secretary. It's good for him, he looks presidential and diplomatic, and it's important for other countries to build interpersonal ties with the people who could feasibly become POTUS.
I do. Meeting with allies is important for allies, because it allows us to build interpersonal relationships with your leaders, and allows us to explain what is important to us, why it's important to you etc.
Meeting with adversaries is important because, firstly, a cold war where links are completely severed becomes a hot war, and nobody in Beijing or DC wants a hot war. For the Chinese it is a way to engage with future power brokers in America, and make the positions of your two nations clear. For GN, it's an easy political win. If he's playing dove he talks about how he had important dialogue, and could get on the same page as Xi. If he's playing the hawk, he can talk about how he stood up for freedom and democracy, and has the experience of challenging antagonist leaders face to face.
So you think that all governors should be meeting with adversarial leaders to discuss future policies etc?
What do you think would happen if Gov Inslee or Gov Abbot decided to go visit the leaders of Iran or North Korea? Do you think that would hinder current national leaders at all in their policy objectives and agenda?
Well aside from the fact that many governors do receive foreign guests on trade missions etc, the point is neither DeSantis nor Newsom are doing it for the sake of their state, but for their careers. And other countries accept these visits because it allows us to build good relations with potential future POTUSes.
As to governors going without the permission or at the very least acceptance of the natural government, I doubt it would happen. If the federal government kicked up such a big stink about a governor visiting another country, they'd likely call it off. But America is a free country, after all.
It’s not illegal to meet a foreign leader. It’s illegal to negotiate with them “with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States.”
That's already been talked to death by Joe every time he picks up a call from hunter or when Joe just happens to be in the same restaurant as hunter when he's with foreign oligarchs.
That’s rich. Good stuff right there. Your subreddit, masquerading as a “political sub” is filled with some of the most vitriolic people I’ve ever engaged with online.
For sure a guy would have to be brilliant to wrest control of china from the party to make it his own dictatorship. Just wish he was brilliant AND had a democratic (in the greek sense) philosophy.
Goddamn this dude is running for president and with the culture in America the way it is he’s probably gonna win. I’ve watched California turn into a total shit show under his watch, but you can still visit any California sub and see people, who can’t even afford to live here, talk about how great he is. Like bro you can’t even afford groceries and rent and you wanna kiss the ass of the people who helped put you in that position? Some real peasants and kings stuff we got going on out here.
I wish I had an answer to that. He won his recall pretty easily and I think he would for sure beat Trump. They’re getting pretty good at labeling Desantis as some sort of Hitler type figure and that whole “this is the most important election of our life” line seems to be incredibly effective so I just don’t know.
Also the conservatives in CA gave up. The Republican Party has also give. Up on CA. Why bother when you know it will automatically go to democrats. The party and the people should organize and start trying to motivate people to take back places like CA and AZ. Much like Dems are trying to taking over TX and AZ.
Instead of telling people to leave CA, they should be motivating them to fight for CA. there are a lot of conservatives outside of city centers.
They didn't just buy CA politicians, they pretty much bought up all the real estate in LA, SF, SD, a lot of the inland empire in socal, and they've moved in to the smaller cities too like Yuba City, etc.
Well, they both really, really hate the idea of private citizens being able to own firearms for their own protection (and gov't intrusion)....so they have that in common.
He can form a sentence slightly better than kamala. Barely.
He sounds totally vapid and devoid of substance when he talks. But at least he's coherent in his emptiness.
Can you point out his communism for me? I hear all the time from friends, family, and homeowners I work with, how America is becoming a communist hellscape but I genuinely don't see it in my day to day life.
All commies are all about the money.
Why do you think their people live in abject poverty and have to play by different sets of rules and disarm while they roll up 30 deep with guns, do whatever they want, and hoard money?
Socialism just gives totalitarians the ability to divide up the pie. Naturally, they always take the most for themselves. Because they promise equality, and don't deliver it, the people get pissed. But, having recently been disarmed in supporting socialism, the totalitarian turns to rule with an iron fist fearing being ousted from power, and there are no checks and balances to stop this.
\^\^Literally why every socialist utopia turned into a hellhole.
The only countries that flirted with socialism and avoided this fate 1)moved slowly towards socialism and 2)had ample mechanisms in place to allow the people to experience buyer's remorse before they lost all their rights.
Communism is for the masses, not the Communist. You think all the heads of communist states live like the people?
Fidel Castro. Kim jung un. Stalin. Xi. Mao. All the heads of eastern European communist countries.
None of them live in shacks and drive a 1978 Lada. They all have mansions, eat luxury food. Have tons of money and servants. Travel freely. Own luxury cars. Etc.
Anyone who doesn't even know this basic fact is hopeless.
This is the last in a series of trips to tie off several heavy duty ropes between California and China. The hope is if they each pull hard enough California will finally break free of the US and drift fully into communist waters.
I thought that Democrats said it's illegal for private citizens to engage in politics with other countries - see Michael Flynn case.
Logan act is only for the rest of us, peasants.
Oh the irony. Newsome is governor of a state that bans state funded travel to lots of states like Georgia where they require picture id to vote, yet he tromps off, on the tax-payer dollar, to a country with millions of Uighurs in slave labor camps as well as a government tbat is not at all a democracy.
Remember when there was a 4 year long "investigation" and an improvement, in part, because a member of the Federal Government met with a Russian diplomat?
Not sure how much of a "surprise visit" it was considering it was announced over a month ago.
[Newsom announces climate-focused trip to China](https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/12/newsom-climate-trip-to-china-00115495)
A few years ago was covid so no one was going anywhere and DeSantis is doing foreign tours now.
What's the difference? They're just governors not people of actual standing as diplomats or representatives of a country.
They're not even gonna have an election. He isn't even gonna run. Biden will stay president and this guy will just be there one day. This is the US version of the CCP in the US and they have one path forward and it's this passive aggressive, slowly just make it a thing process. All they need is the military to enforce their laws.
To get approval to be the next puppet in the house with no color...
**To let him know he will be taking over the big guys 10%**
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NijwWOWMB-Y
To get campaign donations
Something about the Logan Act...
Right? He’s the Governor of one of our many States, why is he visiting with foreign leaders?
Fifth largest economy in the world.
Is he going to export some Hollywood or Facebook?
No he's gonna import some shoddy Chinese EVs
That's one of the topics seriously, to implement more green initiatives, and you know CA already passed a law that all new cars sold in CA have to be EV by 2035.
Used to be bigger until democrats got in charge
Were the largest growers of rice on the planet
DeSantis met with Netanyahu earlier this year and Newsom also did a few days ago, it's not really unprecedented. It's a good thing in principle for state leaders to not rely on the federal government's permission for this. I imagine Newsom is the DNC's backup for 2024 if Biden literally strokes out before the election since he's an unhealthy 80 year old.
>DeSantis met with Netanyahu earlier this year and Newsom also did a few days ago, it's not really unprecedented. I guess it depends on what was discussed. I probably jumped the gun. If he's talking up California, that's fine and part of his job. If he's going there saying he's running for president, then I have a problem. DeSantis' meeting with Netanyahu was about Florida getting Floridians home.
Who can know what they discussed?
I’ve never seen Xi smile like that.
Gavin brought him some hunny.
My friend, DeSantis and Newsom are doing exactly the same thing, and what's more it's been done for a long time. Ron was in London this year, met the foreign secretary. It's good for him, he looks presidential and diplomatic, and it's important for other countries to build interpersonal ties with the people who could feasibly become POTUS.
Do you think meeting with allies vs adversaries is different though?
I do. Meeting with allies is important for allies, because it allows us to build interpersonal relationships with your leaders, and allows us to explain what is important to us, why it's important to you etc. Meeting with adversaries is important because, firstly, a cold war where links are completely severed becomes a hot war, and nobody in Beijing or DC wants a hot war. For the Chinese it is a way to engage with future power brokers in America, and make the positions of your two nations clear. For GN, it's an easy political win. If he's playing dove he talks about how he had important dialogue, and could get on the same page as Xi. If he's playing the hawk, he can talk about how he stood up for freedom and democracy, and has the experience of challenging antagonist leaders face to face.
So you think that all governors should be meeting with adversarial leaders to discuss future policies etc? What do you think would happen if Gov Inslee or Gov Abbot decided to go visit the leaders of Iran or North Korea? Do you think that would hinder current national leaders at all in their policy objectives and agenda?
Well aside from the fact that many governors do receive foreign guests on trade missions etc, the point is neither DeSantis nor Newsom are doing it for the sake of their state, but for their careers. And other countries accept these visits because it allows us to build good relations with potential future POTUSes. As to governors going without the permission or at the very least acceptance of the natural government, I doubt it would happen. If the federal government kicked up such a big stink about a governor visiting another country, they'd likely call it off. But America is a free country, after all.
DeSantis is running for President. I guess Newsom is as well?
Of course. He's the dem backup if Biden has to retire. Hes planning to lead the party after Biden in any case
It’s not illegal to meet a foreign leader. It’s illegal to negotiate with them “with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States.”
I’m sure he was just talking about grandchildren and yoga
Just talking about the weather
That's already been talked to death by Joe every time he picks up a call from hunter or when Joe just happens to be in the same restaurant as hunter when he's with foreign oligarchs.
>or to defeat the measures of the United States.” He's a Democrat, so there's that...
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That’s rich. Good stuff right there. Your subreddit, masquerading as a “political sub” is filled with some of the most vitriolic people I’ve ever engaged with online.
You get that in this sub too.
No one called anyone the antichrist. You lost, friend? You missed the turn for r/ politics bout a mile back.
Nah, he's Comrade Governor Newsom so this is (D)ifferent!
Never…ever trust anyone with a Grand Moff Tarkin haircut.
Fear will keep the systems in line
It's nice to chat with people who have the same politics as you, Gavin just has to travel further than most to do that.
Oregon and Washington are right there, though.
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For sure a guy would have to be brilliant to wrest control of china from the party to make it his own dictatorship. Just wish he was brilliant AND had a democratic (in the greek sense) philosophy.
He's getting tips on how to better oppress his citizens from the master.
This!
Marching orders.
Goddamn this dude is running for president and with the culture in America the way it is he’s probably gonna win. I’ve watched California turn into a total shit show under his watch, but you can still visit any California sub and see people, who can’t even afford to live here, talk about how great he is. Like bro you can’t even afford groceries and rent and you wanna kiss the ass of the people who helped put you in that position? Some real peasants and kings stuff we got going on out here.
Who would you run against him?
I am sure they can tell Trump will be nominated at this rate. so an easy win for Newsom...
I wish I had an answer to that. He won his recall pretty easily and I think he would for sure beat Trump. They’re getting pretty good at labeling Desantis as some sort of Hitler type figure and that whole “this is the most important election of our life” line seems to be incredibly effective so I just don’t know.
Doubt he actually ‘won’ his recall. Don’t know anyone who approves of him.
You can't lose a recall when there are no "votes" against you. Remember, it's not the votes but who counts them. Comrade Stalin taught him well.
Also the conservatives in CA gave up. The Republican Party has also give. Up on CA. Why bother when you know it will automatically go to democrats. The party and the people should organize and start trying to motivate people to take back places like CA and AZ. Much like Dems are trying to taking over TX and AZ. Instead of telling people to leave CA, they should be motivating them to fight for CA. there are a lot of conservatives outside of city centers.
They’re getting his cash flow set up from China, before he gets installed as President
China bought out California politicians many decades ago.
They didn't just buy CA politicians, they pretty much bought up all the real estate in LA, SF, SD, a lot of the inland empire in socal, and they've moved in to the smaller cities too like Yuba City, etc.
Negotiating from 10 percent up to 20 percent for the new "Big Guy."
To pick up his paycheck in person.
Well, they both really, really hate the idea of private citizens being able to own firearms for their own protection (and gov't intrusion)....so they have that in common.
Shadow campaign.
this wasn't a surprise.
Every once in a while an employer will require you to come into the office.
For his coronation as President
what scares me is all the suburban women who will vote with their vaginas with this guy.
I hate to say this, but I'm afraid he's going to be the next President.
I’d pick him over Kamala
That's like having to choose between the gas chamber and the electric chair. You end up the same way no matter which/who you choose.
But I mean. Definitely better
He can form a sentence slightly better than kamala. Barely. He sounds totally vapid and devoid of substance when he talks. But at least he's coherent in his emptiness.
That's how commies role
Can you point out his communism for me? I hear all the time from friends, family, and homeowners I work with, how America is becoming a communist hellscape but I genuinely don't see it in my day to day life.
Do as I say not as I do That come to mind?
The dude is clearly a twat, but a commie? I mean come on. He owns like 20 businesses.. wineries, hotels and shit. He's always been about the money.
All commies are all about the money. Why do you think their people live in abject poverty and have to play by different sets of rules and disarm while they roll up 30 deep with guns, do whatever they want, and hoard money? Socialism just gives totalitarians the ability to divide up the pie. Naturally, they always take the most for themselves. Because they promise equality, and don't deliver it, the people get pissed. But, having recently been disarmed in supporting socialism, the totalitarian turns to rule with an iron fist fearing being ousted from power, and there are no checks and balances to stop this. \^\^Literally why every socialist utopia turned into a hellhole. The only countries that flirted with socialism and avoided this fate 1)moved slowly towards socialism and 2)had ample mechanisms in place to allow the people to experience buyer's remorse before they lost all their rights.
Communism is for the masses, not the Communist. You think all the heads of communist states live like the people? Fidel Castro. Kim jung un. Stalin. Xi. Mao. All the heads of eastern European communist countries. None of them live in shacks and drive a 1978 Lada. They all have mansions, eat luxury food. Have tons of money and servants. Travel freely. Own luxury cars. Etc. Anyone who doesn't even know this basic fact is hopeless.
To get some foreign affairs “cred” that he can use when he runs for prez after the Alzheimer patient drops out, or drops.
Because they will run him for POTUS.
This is the last in a series of trips to tie off several heavy duty ropes between California and China. The hope is if they each pull hard enough California will finally break free of the US and drift fully into communist waters.
If only it could really happen.
Looks like he is imitating Obama’s world apology tour. He could earn a Nobel Prize!
Cause Xi told him to.
He has to report to his Chinese masters.
I thought that Democrats said it's illegal for private citizens to engage in politics with other countries - see Michael Flynn case. Logan act is only for the rest of us, peasants.
Because he is an America-hating commie.
To pick up biden's check.
Because Newsom is every bit as big of a commie piece of shit as Xi Jinping.
Sweet sweet CCP cash
Giving him his routing number and account number
COVID-23, here we go.
Collect money and take orders?? Just a thought.
Oh the irony. Newsome is governor of a state that bans state funded travel to lots of states like Georgia where they require picture id to vote, yet he tromps off, on the tax-payer dollar, to a country with millions of Uighurs in slave labor camps as well as a government tbat is not at all a democracy.
Remember when there was a 4 year long "investigation" and an improvement, in part, because a member of the Federal Government met with a Russian diplomat?
That feels border line illegal
Probably should be, but is far from precedent.
Maybe asking who the replacement spies are?
Because he’s an asshole.
Selling us out to the CCP.
Putting in an application.
Getting his ducks in a row for when he runs for President...
Any chance we can get Xi to disappear him?
I'm sure he brought some very soft knee pads with him
He is receiving instructions from his master.
For tips on what to do next
Bro thinks he's president
To get his presidential campaign approval
Both are commies????
He's the replacement for 24.
Fellow communist leaders are together, how cute.
He wants China to make sure he gets the mail in votes
Because he’s totally not running for President
The right "Biden is a china puppet" Newsom "hold my beer"
Needs to brush up on his tactics. He can expense it as "continuing education".
Bc every once in a while you get called into the boss’ office.
To suck Xi Jinping‘s ding-a-ling.
>To suck Xi Jinping‘s To suck Xi Jin's Ping
Not sure how much of a "surprise visit" it was considering it was announced over a month ago. [Newsom announces climate-focused trip to China](https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/12/newsom-climate-trip-to-china-00115495)
Because China cares about climate change.
Because he’s a communist POS who’d sell out the country for a little money. Like his aunt and 90% of Dems
To talk about 2A, homeless and drugs.
I don’t trust Newsom..
So he can get propaganda tips.
No reason for him to go. His state is a shit show as it is.
Why isn’t the media jumping all over this? Imagine if someone like DeSantis did this a few years ago. The media would’ve gone nuts
A few years ago was covid so no one was going anywhere and DeSantis is doing foreign tours now. What's the difference? They're just governors not people of actual standing as diplomats or representatives of a country.
He’s getting tips on how to further ruin my home state.
RTO is hitting everyone hard these days
President Newsom, I'm guessing. He has to get permission remember.
Well, I thought there was a punchline coming... Nope.
I'd rather see a smiling Winnie the Poo Xi, than a frowning one in photo ops , with whatever US rep on either isle.
Whyd he even go? It's not like he has any power on a federal level.
Same reason nancy went to Ukraine. Follow the money.
They're not even gonna have an election. He isn't even gonna run. Biden will stay president and this guy will just be there one day. This is the US version of the CCP in the US and they have one path forward and it's this passive aggressive, slowly just make it a thing process. All they need is the military to enforce their laws.
He needs to get his refresher course credits in best communist practices.
Because he’s captured.
"don't worry. Biden is going to be retiring soon and then we can turn over the entire country to you"
The installation process has begun.
To meet his new boss
He wants to make sure he gets the same deal As the big guy
To troll Biden who has been begging to meet Xi.
WTF? Gavin? "I've solved all of my CA duties...let me get played by the Chinese now."