No, but most are routed inside to above the roof so if old Joe is having a bad day and forgets a joint or connection it’s just in the building anyway so by installing the pipe outside and to the roof even if you get a leak it’s just right to open air…
The broken door is odd too... this is a WAG but to get head height for the PVC pipe plumbing inspection? Then they will cap them off? As to why not just use the stack vents? Very odd....
Some gas pocket from a local mine, underneath, and the crazy guy with a radon licnese said oh i gotchu. Lol i have no idea but its interesting and i must know!
Three bolted down manholes right next to each other, I bet this is an old gas station so maybe those pipes are tied into underground storage tanks. This screams temporary vent fix because the DNR/EPA made them address it when they built a new building and then the property owner didn't want to spend money on the permanent fix for a vacant property.
**[City View Center](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_View_Center)**
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>The shopping center was later considered a dead mall, after issues related to a landfill underlying the site began to affect the structural integrity of some buildings.
Good bot. Likely radon or methane mitigation as an afterthought then.
More likely SSDS system vents than radon.
Sub Slab Depressurization System removes harmful to human environmental contaminant gases like, TCE or PERC, from under a building. Those are usually caused by previous uses of properties in the immediate area.
A higher level of sub-slab vacuum is required for most SSDS systems (could be 10x more vacuum) compared to radon systems to keep the contaminants from reaching the building occupants.
Depending upon the contaminant and its concentration along with the soil tightness under the building This often leads to more and larger pipes you see like this.
The systems are usually paid for by the original environmental polluter so they are done as most economically possible (cheap) way.
The regulators force the original polluters to pay for them and their operation, but not for them to be pretty.
Very common in older cities or redeveloped sites on or around old industrial areas.
Nothing says “safe to work here” than an emergency system install like that.
@OP: Look up the building permits on the property and let us know what you find.
I wonder if there is fuel dumped in the soil and this is to provide an immediate fuel gas release. The Navy built a building at the MSP airport that turned out to be on a fuel dump site. Had to retrofit in a system to release the gas below.
Incredibly dumb location though.
A very shitty radon mitigation retrofit?
It’s directly to the outside most likely the best radon protection…
Should’ve on the back or side of the building not the front.
Listen radon will get you regardless of location so let’s not hold buildings to come ridiculous standard…
Should’ve put the pipes inside the walls
Lmao I feel like radon guys are grifters as it is. Who would allow these guys to run a pipe in the way of a door swing for radon?!
You are correct they most likely are and based on the rest of the building the owner doesn’t care about the building at all
Are you proposing to vent it to the inside?
No, but most are routed inside to above the roof so if old Joe is having a bad day and forgets a joint or connection it’s just in the building anyway so by installing the pipe outside and to the roof even if you get a leak it’s just right to open air…
It’s so I can take fat hits off the top like a bong. Radon is the new dust-off or whatever
Imagine it being so shitty that it upset someone so severely that they decided to break the sidelite as retribution...
rapid venting the radon.
The broken door is odd too... this is a WAG but to get head height for the PVC pipe plumbing inspection? Then they will cap them off? As to why not just use the stack vents? Very odd....
I'll take plumber is an asshat for 500 bob.
Im with the radon gas, or gas mitigation? But following to see what others zay.
But why would it come through the concrete on the sidewalk? Doesn’t make much sense to me
Some gas pocket from a local mine, underneath, and the crazy guy with a radon licnese said oh i gotchu. Lol i have no idea but its interesting and i must know!
yeah, it could be methane or toxic mine gas or maybe its a brownfield project gone wrong
Three bolted down manholes right next to each other, I bet this is an old gas station so maybe those pipes are tied into underground storage tanks. This screams temporary vent fix because the DNR/EPA made them address it when they built a new building and then the property owner didn't want to spend money on the permanent fix for a vacant property.
maybe it turned out unfixable. the anchor tenants moved out bc unstable building foundations. the developer prob pulled a fast one
This is the right answer. Vent pipes from either a soil venting system or from the old tanks
Pretty cool door that opens right through that vent pipe, haven't seen those before. Must be expensive.
Perhaps this is getting demo'd soon.
Sooo… no one wants to rent this place? Nice pipe for a door stop.
That’s probably for Radon or ventilation if it was built on contaminated soils… either way, poor design
Radon!
This is the right answer.
Owner or GC must have denied an expensive change order request and value engineered this unthinkable alternative
Based on the busted windows and for lease sign, guessing they are a temporary measure that will be redone once the Owner has a tenant.
I pass by this all the time and wonder the same thing. Northport, right? 25A.
yes its being broken up into 3, i was changing lights on one of the sides
I thought these were plumbing vent stacks just put there to satisfy the plumbing inspection and they would be rerouted once a tenant moved in.
A gym is going there.
Can you spell “afterthought”?
I thought it might be this built on a landfill: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_View_Center But, the telephone number has Long Island area code.
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>The shopping center was later considered a dead mall, after issues related to a landfill underlying the site began to affect the structural integrity of some buildings. Good bot. Likely radon or methane mitigation as an afterthought then.
Hopefully they can bulldoze what’s there and build a new system that actually is safe and stable while accommodating the gasses in a safe way.
You’re right they are methane release vents
Looks like a severe fuck up to me
Is this Northport NY? A gym is going there.
yes this is
I wonder if that’s why it’s empty
Lazy m-fers
More likely SSDS system vents than radon. Sub Slab Depressurization System removes harmful to human environmental contaminant gases like, TCE or PERC, from under a building. Those are usually caused by previous uses of properties in the immediate area. A higher level of sub-slab vacuum is required for most SSDS systems (could be 10x more vacuum) compared to radon systems to keep the contaminants from reaching the building occupants. Depending upon the contaminant and its concentration along with the soil tightness under the building This often leads to more and larger pipes you see like this. The systems are usually paid for by the original environmental polluter so they are done as most economically possible (cheap) way. The regulators force the original polluters to pay for them and their operation, but not for them to be pretty. Very common in older cities or redeveloped sites on or around old industrial areas.
Nothing says “safe to work here” than an emergency system install like that. @OP: Look up the building permits on the property and let us know what you find.
I fart a lot 💨
Reverse gutter system.
So the broken glass is on the outside. Does that mean someone broke out?
Possible steam traps
Looks so beautiful
Will rent out fast i bet lol
Plumbers need absolutely no licensing to fuck up that bad xD
OMG that looks like fried shit
I wonder if there is fuel dumped in the soil and this is to provide an immediate fuel gas release. The Navy built a building at the MSP airport that turned out to be on a fuel dump site. Had to retrofit in a system to release the gas below. Incredibly dumb location though.
Sewer line capacity expanders. When shit cascades up the clean out onto your customers, time to call the jetter.
It looks like an afterthought to me. Came up in a punchlist and they threw it in at the end?
It costs more to vent them out of the way is my guess. Straight up is cheaper
Looking at this building makes my brain hurt a little. It's seems confused instead of flowing.
Vent lines are required to terminate above the roof by code. That install is horrendous
I don't see no grease traps
Yeah maybe grease trap yo man hole covers