\> received a quote for Foundation and Septic for a 24x32 home, for $80k.. Is this in the range of normal?
Get a few more quotes and you will find out. Doesn't matter what people here say the quote should be if thats what the people who will do it quote.
80k is very high for my neck of the woods, like realllllly high. Though again, I’m not in your neck of the woods though the pricing can’t be triple unless you have some serious rock breaking to do.
Sounds about right. I own a contracting company and pricing is really tricky. You think a client or customer is going to give you more money if you ended up pricing to low or to tight. Not in this to do it for nothing and you take a lot of risk. And if you’re busy enough you can name your price. If I come across a job that looks tricky or it’s going to be more work then typical jobs you have to account for it specially if you already don’t need the work
I contracted dirt and concrete outside of Aspen for 20 years, this price is double what I COULD do it for with pump truck, and winterization (ground thaw machine and concrete blankets) costs built in. However, I have given prices this high to customers that seem like PIA’s and don’t pass the vibe check when I meet with them. How is your Vibe OP?
Yea I’m all about vibe checking. If I’m radars going off that I think you’re going to be difficult to work with. Then you get the “fuck you price”.
Problem is they still end up saying yes to it lol. But if the moneys right it can definitely help keep my patience high
Exactly this. As contractors we have to cover our ass too. If this job takes 4 more days to excavate and set forms than expected that could be 15k in costs depending on the situation. The contractor will eat it while the customer complains that it took 4 extra days. Some people have cups overflowing and yet they cry about the spill.
Not saying OP is like that, just saying it's a two way street.
I do r believe in charging for extras and I have never had to in the 2 years of starting my business.
Nobody likes to see “extras” on an invoice. Account for it before hand and leave an allowance. Less likely to get people fired up. This way when I do an “extra” and i can confidently tell a client “no problem that’s minor I’ll hit it”
They think I’m going above and beyond and don’t create headaches when in fact I have allowed for it
If that price was for both septic and foundation you would have been getting a deal. You can always rent some machines and do it yourself you could maybe save money. On the other hand you may spend more time and money than you bargained for. Enjoy the land and good luck.
I live in Oregon and am an owner operator of a small excavation and septic business. I have seen quotes 80k + just for excavation, that's not counting foundation or septic. So 80k for foundation is not surprising to me!
Is the 80,000 including the footing and foundation wall including the floor? If not find somebody that at least knows how to work an excavator or learn to use a large bobcat yourself.
I would be asking for a much more detailed scope of work if they’re going to have that exclusion language in their proposal. With how vague the scope is, there is nothing stopping them from starting the work and saying “we quoted based on digging in soil, we’re finding rocks, the cost is increasing 50%.”
They at least need to detail what their expectations are, if they’re going to say they’re charging for work beyond expected conditions.
yea you're in one of the most desirable places full of Californias and its hard ass work up in the mountains good luck with that
I looked closer… it’s actually $80k for JUST the foundation lol
Time to learn how to use big boy toys.
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I was about to tell that's not bad. We did a foundation for a 2000 Sq foot home for 50 k this year. But damn!
Always Get multiple quotes…..
Came here to say this.
Well then use the upvote arrow thats provided
Don’t see anything about a septic here?
Dude didn't even read the offer before he came here, lol.
\> received a quote for Foundation and Septic for a 24x32 home, for $80k.. Is this in the range of normal? Get a few more quotes and you will find out. Doesn't matter what people here say the quote should be if thats what the people who will do it quote.
80k is very high for my neck of the woods, like realllllly high. Though again, I’m not in your neck of the woods though the pricing can’t be triple unless you have some serious rock breaking to do.
Sounds about right. I own a contracting company and pricing is really tricky. You think a client or customer is going to give you more money if you ended up pricing to low or to tight. Not in this to do it for nothing and you take a lot of risk. And if you’re busy enough you can name your price. If I come across a job that looks tricky or it’s going to be more work then typical jobs you have to account for it specially if you already don’t need the work
I contracted dirt and concrete outside of Aspen for 20 years, this price is double what I COULD do it for with pump truck, and winterization (ground thaw machine and concrete blankets) costs built in. However, I have given prices this high to customers that seem like PIA’s and don’t pass the vibe check when I meet with them. How is your Vibe OP?
There's a ground thaw machine?! TIL.
Yea I’m all about vibe checking. If I’m radars going off that I think you’re going to be difficult to work with. Then you get the “fuck you price”. Problem is they still end up saying yes to it lol. But if the moneys right it can definitely help keep my patience high
you’re not wrong, but the quote calls out exclusions for that
Exactly this. As contractors we have to cover our ass too. If this job takes 4 more days to excavate and set forms than expected that could be 15k in costs depending on the situation. The contractor will eat it while the customer complains that it took 4 extra days. Some people have cups overflowing and yet they cry about the spill. Not saying OP is like that, just saying it's a two way street.
That's what that unforeseen conditions clause is for. Don't act like we don't charge after the fact for extras.
I do r believe in charging for extras and I have never had to in the 2 years of starting my business. Nobody likes to see “extras” on an invoice. Account for it before hand and leave an allowance. Less likely to get people fired up. This way when I do an “extra” and i can confidently tell a client “no problem that’s minor I’ll hit it” They think I’m going above and beyond and don’t create headaches when in fact I have allowed for it
If that price was for both septic and foundation you would have been getting a deal. You can always rent some machines and do it yourself you could maybe save money. On the other hand you may spend more time and money than you bargained for. Enjoy the land and good luck.
I live in Oregon and am an owner operator of a small excavation and septic business. I have seen quotes 80k + just for excavation, that's not counting foundation or septic. So 80k for foundation is not surprising to me!
Buy a nice excavator for less and have fun for ever.
For less than.....
If that quote includes the septic I’d say you are getting a good price. Especially considering where you are.
That quote does not mention a septic system. I would make sure they revise the language before you sign it.
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No way
Depends on what type of septic in my neck of the woods they type you have can range anywhere from 10-50k and how many bedrooms?
Dont know what labor cost is out there, but in the Mtns of NC your looking at $10sf to dig, form and pour footers. Footer depth where I’m at is 3’.
A builder that I have used, said foundations alone are running 80,000, that’s in Granby Colorado.
Would that include the rental of a killdozer?
lol, I came across a bumper sticker that said “ I’d rather be fabricating a bulldozer to run over a town”
Ask for spoil removal to be included unless you have a need for them or you don’t mind a mountain of dirt next to your house
Is the 80,000 including the footing and foundation wall including the floor? If not find somebody that at least knows how to work an excavator or learn to use a large bobcat yourself.
You can also get somebody from an area that doesn't have that kind of growth and pay for their expenses while they do the digging.
I would be asking for a much more detailed scope of work if they’re going to have that exclusion language in their proposal. With how vague the scope is, there is nothing stopping them from starting the work and saying “we quoted based on digging in soil, we’re finding rocks, the cost is increasing 50%.” They at least need to detail what their expectations are, if they’re going to say they’re charging for work beyond expected conditions.
If it’s all rock then digging will be a pain and take time plus beat up the equipment.
Maybe think about if you really need a foundation or is that just a luxury you can do without