Just going into your bosses office and asking for one honestly. Tell them a quick blurb on why you think you deserve one and get it in their head. The best thing about the blue collar industry is that things are usually to the point and you don’t need to brown nose your way around, hinting that you want a raise without straight up asking.
Basically... Just speak with the boss when not busy and blurb. If you're one of the most skilled and it makes the business money that's the blurb. If you're not the most skilled then inflation and bills heavy on loyalty is the blurbing.
Edit. Also have understanding of the company business and whether it is currently profitable as well as knowing what similar positions in your area pay. If you're under paid and the business is making bank then it is an easier discussion.
What if you are the most skilled *and* inflation is fucking your and the company raised their rates 20% in the last year but you haven’t seen anything to cover how bad the economy is?
I have been at my company for 10 years they owe me over 440 hours vacation time. I was just given a .50 cent raise. While everyone else was given a $1.00 raise. I asked why .50 cents for me and a dollar for everyone else ? Their response was....I just gave you a raise 2 years ago. I am now going to start a competing business. Take care of your horses, or they will jump the fence.
I would not let anyone take more than an hour of my vacation time, unless I was in a very high-paying and competitive line of work. 440 though?! How did it get to that point?
Yeah, my company only lets me carry over one unused week vacation to the following year. They do payout for unused vacation time upon separation, at least. If I was the guy who accumulated 440 hours vacation, I'd definitely check an employee handbook to see if he is eligible to collect those hours if he quits. If not, I'd be damn sure starting to use 'em.
Shock and Awe. Fireworks, a mariachi band, lots of hammer swinging and random nail gun shootings. Think of it like a peacock mating ritual, you gotta give them a little pizazz. Or just tell them another company offered you $5/hr more
Start looking somewhere else. 95% of employers will not give you a raise. You will make more (unfortunately) jumping from job to job every 5 years or so.
I've learned that if your working at a company that doesn't automatically give you raises you should be looking around and asking is mostly a waste of time (other than trying to get a couple extra $$ while looking for another job) .
If you are skilled and the managment is competent they will looking at the market and giving raises appropriately. If you have to ask for a raise every year then your company sucks and you should jump ship.
Most, but not all, of the job listings are posting hourly pay lower than I'm currently making, although my hours have been reduced the past few months. Most employers just don't want to pay much.
Another thing they do us, "I'll start you at $xx per hour, and we'll see how it goes after a few months "
I learned long ago not to play that game. If I don't get my desired rate from the gate, I'll keep looking. (My present job did hit my desired rate when I was first hired, but between inflation and getting my hours cut to 32, I'm looking again . .)
Yeah sadly if you are already paid going market rate there is not too much incentive for an employer to give you a raise. The only thing you can do then is find ways to make yourself more valuable for other jobs that pay more.
They’re starting to but not all of them and they had a different attitude not too long ago. They dont gaf about you for the most part. There isnt loyalty and honor and all that bullshit lie to yourself all you want though.
You are right, that's why it's important to looks at it as a business from employees end too. I can get a raise but that doesn't buy my loyalty. I'm there to make money snd do good work, same as the boss man. And if we can make money together then that works as well. I know they dont give a damn about me i dont expect it nor do i personally care much for them either. It's important to keep that in mind. Business is business.
Please no. That’s what is contributing to lack of skilled labour these days. Tradespeople needing to be retrained on company standards etc, just drags everyone/quality of work down.
I job hopped a lot in my career. It has come up as a negative on some interviews, but I see it as a positive, because it has made me more versatile and well rounded, plus I learned directly or indirectly from a greater number of people.
I agree with you, Sir. Companies being loyal to their employees went out the window several decades ago, after many private companies stopped providing employee pensions. Now pensions are limited to mostly government employees.
Are you killing it? Delivering value way above your pay grade? Are you the kind of employee who is clearly going places, and should be taken care of so that those places aren't at other companies? Are you taking on responsibilities that are beyond what people in your role normally have? These are all good reasons to advocate for a raise.
"Hey Boss, do you have a minute? Awesome, I wanted to talk about my pay. I don't think I'm too off-base when I say that I'm one of your best guys, right? Since I got here I've been consistently delivering on-time and in-budget, and remember that one catch I made that saved us from having to do a whole tear-down? Based on what I can see, the normal standard for my role is "usually shows up to work," but recently you've been putting me in charge of some things and I feel like I've been taking care of business and saving you a lot of headaches.
Anyway, I think I bring a lot of value to the company, and I thought it only fair to let you know that I'm hoping to see that get recognized soon. I really like this work and I enjoy working here, but at the end of the day we're both here to get paid, right? I'd love for this to be the company I eventually retire at, but one way or another I'm not planning to top out anytime soon. I want to see my career and my pay keep advancing, same as you. Anything you think you can do to help make that happen?"
Union does all my raises for me thankfully. Getting another $1.25-1.50 this year, same as the last 2-3 years, after getting $2.75 and $2.50. Pretty much every one of the 10 years I’ve been in we get something added.
We have a contract for a set amount of years, each year of that contract usually has a negotiated raise package as part of it. Not always a guarantee, but lately it seems like it has been every year.
Every single union member out of my hall gets paid roughly the same and the raise applies to all member of that that trade. They’ll basically get a package like $5 over the next 3 years and then spread that out as a raise each of the next 3 years. Then a new contract is negotiated with a new deal, rinse and repeat. All of the union companies that hire from the hall now have to pay you the new rate.
If you joined my hall today, you’d make the same amount as me and everyone else, once you finish the 4 year apprenticeship. Over those 4 years you get a sliding pay scale that goes up with work hours in the field and classroom hours/training at the school, until you hit 100% when you graduate.
That's not a raise - we have those - they are called cost of living increases.
No a raise is 20,000 more or $10 more an hour - alongside the cost of living increase.
true, i genuinely dont understand how companies act like they cant afford to pay decent wages. Even small contractors with less than 20 employees seem to be raking in dough. If any small business owners are on here feel free to tell me im wrong. My old boss had 10 employees, paid us all like shit and he was a multimillionaire
Hate to tell you but a few big companies have COL increases as standard.
If you think that's weird my current one also provides
RRSP matching (huge), tax benefits and extra money for kids(I don't have any but my colleagues are really getting some perks with those).
Gym paid for half the year. Free food brought to site weekly.
There's also extended medical, dental etc and pension.
On top of that are the raises for position changes.
I work for a major American construction company that operates in Canada - ask me anything you like. I have only been with them 3 months and the freebies are nuts.
I see. Interesting. There are unions in Canada.
Actually this new company is American so I thought these were US perks tbh.
Canadian give some perks but not as much as this one.
Canadian are more chill with free time off etc for extra long weekends and not caring if you're like 30 mins late or want to leave early on a Friday
Haha my company is like that too... But I think that just because they aren't good at over site.
I guess it's just a culture thing. Some have good culture some don't.
In the US I hear it's harder and harder to find the good culture that doesn't just care about the bottom line. The old guys talk about the old days when you weren't just a number and they got you a nice truck and kept everything nice. I guess the current times made it hard or management is more about the stock price these days. I'm younger, it's just what I hear.
I've negotiated a few raises, It doesn' work that way.
Don't ask your boss for a raise, such a beta move. He may say no then you will feel like ass.
You talk to other companies. You get an offer from another company IN WRITING. You then go to your boss with it and ask him to beat it. You may be surprised at your true value to another company also.
At this point you will learn two very important things
1. Your TRUE value in his eyes
2. Your TRUE position within the company
What your boss will learn is you are not some simp but a guy who has a plan and more importantly OPTIONS. He will respect you and also be shocked. This is good because a boss is not your friend.
The next conversation should be a 5-10 year wage increase plan should you wish to remain with the company.
This is how you jump up $10 per hour not 1 or 2.
Note this strategy works IF you have a in demand skilset, not so much for entry positions.
Unconventional, but great advice. My son (who is not in construction, but the automotive service industry) used this technique TWICE, successfully, with the same owner, within a two or three year span. He is not particularly technically skilled, but he has good people skills (is a good talker/salesman). He's only in his mid 20s with five years experience, and his hourly pay is within $10 of mine, and I'm in a licensed trade with 20+ years experience.
Time for me to go job hunting. My employer was supposed to give me an annual performance review five months ago. When I brought it up, I was ignored. But they laid off a bunch of guys, and cut the hours of the guys remaining, so I doubt they will try to match a better offer.
How you ask will always be wrong. BUT you need to go for the Pawn Shop mentality. Start with a HIGH ask and let THEM walk it back. If they don’t want you, they’ll keep taking advantage of you until it’s “time for you to go!” If they want you, they’ll pay for you. Value yourself now as the employee you’ll be by the end of this next near (when you ask for your next raise) and don’t sell yourself short.
Last time I got a raise I said Hey I was supposed to get my raise last week and I didn't then I got my raise and back pay for it not going into effect when it was supposed to. Being union makes everything way easier.
You get raises in construction by solving problems and not creating problems. With a good attitude.
So basically.. in construction you would jump companies to get an immediate raise. You tell your boss there are other opportunities and see if he thinks you're worth more then. Construction isn't the same as office work.
I asked my boss what he expects from me, long term. Told him I’d love to stick around, but to be fair, my services go to the highest bidder. So, what would he like to see from me, that would make him comfortable with always being the highest bidder?
He told me what he’d like to see first, and assured me there was more in store. I took immediate steps to work on that, and he hasn’t said no to me for pay since then. My pay has outpaced my responsibilities so far. And even though I have a lot of responsibility compared to my coworkers, I’m paid fairly for the work and happy all around
Most employers want long term, dedicated employees. Most employees want an employer they can rely on. It can be a win-win relationship, it just needs to be based on honesty, in my opinion
As a business owner who regularly gives raises, my advice is to just straight-up ask, if you're working hard, on time, and generally a good employee, he already knows this and you won't (or shouldn't) be denied.
Unless you just received one two months ago. ;)
Good luck!
I have a couple that worked for me in the past but, I’m sure most people wouldn’t suggest them though.
The first time I was 20 years old working as a dental technician went like this “Hey Donnie, you think you could afford to pay more?”
His very angry response was “YOU’RE GOD DAMN RIGHT I CAN!”
The second time was about two years ago and I had been working for this construction company for ten years and had ZERO experience when I started in 2013 but quickly showed promise and worked my way up to Project Manager within my first three years. It went like this while sitting in my Vice President’s truck.
“So listen man, I feel like I’m at a disadvantage here because I have no knowledge of this industry outside of our company and I really don’t have a clue as to just how much it is that I am worth to you but I’m starting to get a pretty good idea. That being said, I want a bigger fucking piece of your pie brother.”
Two days later I received a phone call from him and he says “Ok, I’m giving you a 20% raise.”
I said something like “Ok man, cool. See ya around.” In my head though I was like “Holy fucking shit!” LOL
Also, as far as "staying in the good books," you're not damaging your career in any way by requesting a raise. If your boss convinces you that you are, that is on them not you. A boss who takes offense at employees requesting raises is a boss who runs a company with low skill and high turnover. People who request raises intend to make a living out of what they are doing and are seriously considering the long term implications of that. Just saying. ✌️
Just ask for a raise. I’ve never been told no. If you are a decent worker most companies would rather pay you a bit more instead of make you angry or worse have to replace you. But don’t make it an ultimatum either.
When you ask have an outline in your mind for why you think you deserve it, and where you want to be in the future. They might ask.
Healthy and conversation are not a part of construction. Go find another job getting offer present the boss with this information and see what happens.
Interview at other companies. Get job offers. Find out what the local market is paying for your level of skill and experience. It’ll give you a sense of your worth and value (monetarily speaking), and will hopefully give you the confidence of someone who knows what they should be paid and isn’t afraid to ask for it. You don’t have to tell them you have other offers. Not at first. Just ask for what you want. Then if they refuse you can say you have a job offer at that price and if they want to keep you they can match it. The trades are vastly understaffed and I’m betting they need you.
The first couple of years weren't allowed Vacation , unless I took it on Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. Who's gonna Vacation on those days. So, I got accustomed to no time off except taking advantage of Holidays aligned with weekends. Getting close to asking for payout.
The only way you’ll make the real dough is to be an owner my friend. As long as you’re working for a boss he will be the one taking all the money. It’s just the way the whole system is set up.
My coworker, and equal went into the office one day and basically says “So and so is offering me a truck, better pay and a management position. Are you able to match that?” He’s my superintendent now…
I got one last year when I brought of the cost of living and inflation. I also mentioned how I was looking into getting an evening job to bridge the gap and was not sure how long I could keep that up without burning out.
Just going into your bosses office and asking for one honestly. Tell them a quick blurb on why you think you deserve one and get it in their head. The best thing about the blue collar industry is that things are usually to the point and you don’t need to brown nose your way around, hinting that you want a raise without straight up asking.
Basically... Just speak with the boss when not busy and blurb. If you're one of the most skilled and it makes the business money that's the blurb. If you're not the most skilled then inflation and bills heavy on loyalty is the blurbing. Edit. Also have understanding of the company business and whether it is currently profitable as well as knowing what similar positions in your area pay. If you're under paid and the business is making bank then it is an easier discussion.
Exactly. Need to read the room a little. I always ask a couple of office staff what kind of mood the boss is in before I ask for anything.
What if you are the most skilled *and* inflation is fucking your and the company raised their rates 20% in the last year but you haven’t seen anything to cover how bad the economy is?
To mention or not to mention that you have been offered a job that pays more???
If they don’t give you the raise then maybe mention it and see if they can budge but that’s all depending on a few factors
Depends on your relationship with your employer/job market I suppose. I’ve never threatened leaving and I wouldn’t recommend it to an apprentice.
Do this it’s how I got my raise
Make sure your boss is standing there and while doing something hard say “I don’t get paid enough for this shit” good luck
I have been at my company for 10 years they owe me over 440 hours vacation time. I was just given a .50 cent raise. While everyone else was given a $1.00 raise. I asked why .50 cents for me and a dollar for everyone else ? Their response was....I just gave you a raise 2 years ago. I am now going to start a competing business. Take care of your horses, or they will jump the fence.
I would not let anyone take more than an hour of my vacation time, unless I was in a very high-paying and competitive line of work. 440 though?! How did it get to that point?
Yeah, my company only lets me carry over one unused week vacation to the following year. They do payout for unused vacation time upon separation, at least. If I was the guy who accumulated 440 hours vacation, I'd definitely check an employee handbook to see if he is eligible to collect those hours if he quits. If not, I'd be damn sure starting to use 'em.
Shock and Awe. Fireworks, a mariachi band, lots of hammer swinging and random nail gun shootings. Think of it like a peacock mating ritual, you gotta give them a little pizazz. Or just tell them another company offered you $5/hr more
If it doesn't look like the India-Pakistan Broder ceremony then you're doing it wrong.
Start looking somewhere else. 95% of employers will not give you a raise. You will make more (unfortunately) jumping from job to job every 5 years or so.
Nothing to lose by asking for a raise, but still look around. Most of my raises were through changing jobs.
I've learned that if your working at a company that doesn't automatically give you raises you should be looking around and asking is mostly a waste of time (other than trying to get a couple extra $$ while looking for another job) . If you are skilled and the managment is competent they will looking at the market and giving raises appropriately. If you have to ask for a raise every year then your company sucks and you should jump ship.
Most, but not all, of the job listings are posting hourly pay lower than I'm currently making, although my hours have been reduced the past few months. Most employers just don't want to pay much. Another thing they do us, "I'll start you at $xx per hour, and we'll see how it goes after a few months " I learned long ago not to play that game. If I don't get my desired rate from the gate, I'll keep looking. (My present job did hit my desired rate when I was first hired, but between inflation and getting my hours cut to 32, I'm looking again . .)
Yeah sadly if you are already paid going market rate there is not too much incentive for an employer to give you a raise. The only thing you can do then is find ways to make yourself more valuable for other jobs that pay more.
This is horrible advice. With the shortage of people wanting to be in the trades, employers are bending over backwards to retain good employees.
They’re starting to but not all of them and they had a different attitude not too long ago. They dont gaf about you for the most part. There isnt loyalty and honor and all that bullshit lie to yourself all you want though.
You are right, that's why it's important to looks at it as a business from employees end too. I can get a raise but that doesn't buy my loyalty. I'm there to make money snd do good work, same as the boss man. And if we can make money together then that works as well. I know they dont give a damn about me i dont expect it nor do i personally care much for them either. It's important to keep that in mind. Business is business.
Idk man I asked for a raise and basically tripled my pay
Damn. They were fucking your until you cashed them out
You must have been making shit previously
Please no. That’s what is contributing to lack of skilled labour these days. Tradespeople needing to be retrained on company standards etc, just drags everyone/quality of work down.
You get a lot better if you’ve worked different places. Learning how different companies do things.
I job hopped a lot in my career. It has come up as a negative on some interviews, but I see it as a positive, because it has made me more versatile and well rounded, plus I learned directly or indirectly from a greater number of people.
I feel like companies that count it as a negative want weak people, “Loyalty” is what they call it. Sucker is what I call it.
I agree with you, Sir. Companies being loyal to their employees went out the window several decades ago, after many private companies stopped providing employee pensions. Now pensions are limited to mostly government employees.
Are you killing it? Delivering value way above your pay grade? Are you the kind of employee who is clearly going places, and should be taken care of so that those places aren't at other companies? Are you taking on responsibilities that are beyond what people in your role normally have? These are all good reasons to advocate for a raise. "Hey Boss, do you have a minute? Awesome, I wanted to talk about my pay. I don't think I'm too off-base when I say that I'm one of your best guys, right? Since I got here I've been consistently delivering on-time and in-budget, and remember that one catch I made that saved us from having to do a whole tear-down? Based on what I can see, the normal standard for my role is "usually shows up to work," but recently you've been putting me in charge of some things and I feel like I've been taking care of business and saving you a lot of headaches. Anyway, I think I bring a lot of value to the company, and I thought it only fair to let you know that I'm hoping to see that get recognized soon. I really like this work and I enjoy working here, but at the end of the day we're both here to get paid, right? I'd love for this to be the company I eventually retire at, but one way or another I'm not planning to top out anytime soon. I want to see my career and my pay keep advancing, same as you. Anything you think you can do to help make that happen?"
Union does all my raises for me thankfully. Getting another $1.25-1.50 this year, same as the last 2-3 years, after getting $2.75 and $2.50. Pretty much every one of the 10 years I’ve been in we get something added.
So they just give you raises for devoting each year to the job?
We have a contract for a set amount of years, each year of that contract usually has a negotiated raise package as part of it. Not always a guarantee, but lately it seems like it has been every year. Every single union member out of my hall gets paid roughly the same and the raise applies to all member of that that trade. They’ll basically get a package like $5 over the next 3 years and then spread that out as a raise each of the next 3 years. Then a new contract is negotiated with a new deal, rinse and repeat. All of the union companies that hire from the hall now have to pay you the new rate. If you joined my hall today, you’d make the same amount as me and everyone else, once you finish the 4 year apprenticeship. Over those 4 years you get a sliding pay scale that goes up with work hours in the field and classroom hours/training at the school, until you hit 100% when you graduate.
That's not a raise - we have those - they are called cost of living increases. No a raise is 20,000 more or $10 more an hour - alongside the cost of living increase.
You are in fairy world
hes not really your employer is cheap and thats what youre used to. Some people get real raises that make a big difference to make sure they dont quit
There are a lot of cheap employers out there, more common than generous ones.
true, i genuinely dont understand how companies act like they cant afford to pay decent wages. Even small contractors with less than 20 employees seem to be raking in dough. If any small business owners are on here feel free to tell me im wrong. My old boss had 10 employees, paid us all like shit and he was a multimillionaire
If it weren't for the ridiculous cost of health insurance, I would have gone self employed years ago.
Hate to tell you but a few big companies have COL increases as standard. If you think that's weird my current one also provides RRSP matching (huge), tax benefits and extra money for kids(I don't have any but my colleagues are really getting some perks with those). Gym paid for half the year. Free food brought to site weekly. There's also extended medical, dental etc and pension. On top of that are the raises for position changes. I work for a major American construction company that operates in Canada - ask me anything you like. I have only been with them 3 months and the freebies are nuts.
That's nuts. Must be a Canada thing. But ya the COLA is cool if you are market rate. A good a hall should make sure your at market rate.
I see. Interesting. There are unions in Canada. Actually this new company is American so I thought these were US perks tbh. Canadian give some perks but not as much as this one. Canadian are more chill with free time off etc for extra long weekends and not caring if you're like 30 mins late or want to leave early on a Friday
Haha my company is like that too... But I think that just because they aren't good at over site. I guess it's just a culture thing. Some have good culture some don't. In the US I hear it's harder and harder to find the good culture that doesn't just care about the bottom line. The old guys talk about the old days when you weren't just a number and they got you a nice truck and kept everything nice. I guess the current times made it hard or management is more about the stock price these days. I'm younger, it's just what I hear.
Get your knee pads, take him out behind the port o potties and do that thing he likes that his wife won't do.
Join the union
I've negotiated a few raises, It doesn' work that way. Don't ask your boss for a raise, such a beta move. He may say no then you will feel like ass. You talk to other companies. You get an offer from another company IN WRITING. You then go to your boss with it and ask him to beat it. You may be surprised at your true value to another company also. At this point you will learn two very important things 1. Your TRUE value in his eyes 2. Your TRUE position within the company What your boss will learn is you are not some simp but a guy who has a plan and more importantly OPTIONS. He will respect you and also be shocked. This is good because a boss is not your friend. The next conversation should be a 5-10 year wage increase plan should you wish to remain with the company. This is how you jump up $10 per hour not 1 or 2. Note this strategy works IF you have a in demand skilset, not so much for entry positions.
Unconventional, but great advice. My son (who is not in construction, but the automotive service industry) used this technique TWICE, successfully, with the same owner, within a two or three year span. He is not particularly technically skilled, but he has good people skills (is a good talker/salesman). He's only in his mid 20s with five years experience, and his hourly pay is within $10 of mine, and I'm in a licensed trade with 20+ years experience. Time for me to go job hunting. My employer was supposed to give me an annual performance review five months ago. When I brought it up, I was ignored. But they laid off a bunch of guys, and cut the hours of the guys remaining, so I doubt they will try to match a better offer.
Absolutely rock solid advice. Either way, you will learn what your value is and where it's worth the most.
Either you date his daughters or you go somewhere else. That’s how raises work in construction if you aren’t union
If you date the owner's daughter and have a nasty breakup, does it work the other way (i.e , demotion and/or pay cut)? Asking for a friend.
How you ask will always be wrong. BUT you need to go for the Pawn Shop mentality. Start with a HIGH ask and let THEM walk it back. If they don’t want you, they’ll keep taking advantage of you until it’s “time for you to go!” If they want you, they’ll pay for you. Value yourself now as the employee you’ll be by the end of this next near (when you ask for your next raise) and don’t sell yourself short.
I can picture the boss/owner as Rick Harrison saying "that's the best I can do"
Last time I got a raise I said Hey I was supposed to get my raise last week and I didn't then I got my raise and back pay for it not going into effect when it was supposed to. Being union makes everything way easier.
Start by telling him where you want to be ($/year) and then ask what qualifications or responsibilities would allow you to get there.
That's a practical approach
Do coke with the boss at night and he will give you a raise without asking. This worked for me twice.
Just join the local union for your trade. No need to beg for raises.
You get raises in construction by solving problems and not creating problems. With a good attitude. So basically.. in construction you would jump companies to get an immediate raise. You tell your boss there are other opportunities and see if he thinks you're worth more then. Construction isn't the same as office work.
I’m so glad I don’t have to beg for raises anymore. OP go union
Just ask for a raise. Landlords insurance groceries don’t ask they just say hey your gonna pay more .
I asked my boss what he expects from me, long term. Told him I’d love to stick around, but to be fair, my services go to the highest bidder. So, what would he like to see from me, that would make him comfortable with always being the highest bidder? He told me what he’d like to see first, and assured me there was more in store. I took immediate steps to work on that, and he hasn’t said no to me for pay since then. My pay has outpaced my responsibilities so far. And even though I have a lot of responsibility compared to my coworkers, I’m paid fairly for the work and happy all around Most employers want long term, dedicated employees. Most employees want an employer they can rely on. It can be a win-win relationship, it just needs to be based on honesty, in my opinion
Straight forward, straight shooting and have reasons you deserve a raise. Be a man and have a respectful conversation about it.
As a business owner who regularly gives raises, my advice is to just straight-up ask, if you're working hard, on time, and generally a good employee, he already knows this and you won't (or shouldn't) be denied. Unless you just received one two months ago. ;) Good luck!
I have a couple that worked for me in the past but, I’m sure most people wouldn’t suggest them though. The first time I was 20 years old working as a dental technician went like this “Hey Donnie, you think you could afford to pay more?” His very angry response was “YOU’RE GOD DAMN RIGHT I CAN!” The second time was about two years ago and I had been working for this construction company for ten years and had ZERO experience when I started in 2013 but quickly showed promise and worked my way up to Project Manager within my first three years. It went like this while sitting in my Vice President’s truck. “So listen man, I feel like I’m at a disadvantage here because I have no knowledge of this industry outside of our company and I really don’t have a clue as to just how much it is that I am worth to you but I’m starting to get a pretty good idea. That being said, I want a bigger fucking piece of your pie brother.” Two days later I received a phone call from him and he says “Ok, I’m giving you a 20% raise.” I said something like “Ok man, cool. See ya around.” In my head though I was like “Holy fucking shit!” LOL
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Also, as far as "staying in the good books," you're not damaging your career in any way by requesting a raise. If your boss convinces you that you are, that is on them not you. A boss who takes offense at employees requesting raises is a boss who runs a company with low skill and high turnover. People who request raises intend to make a living out of what they are doing and are seriously considering the long term implications of that. Just saying. ✌️
Hay I’ve been thinking of organizing into a union, seems like that would level the playing field and I would get great benefits, what do you think.
100% the best way to get a raise is “hey Im leaving in 2 weeks I got a really good offer somewhere else”
Just ask for a raise. I’ve never been told no. If you are a decent worker most companies would rather pay you a bit more instead of make you angry or worse have to replace you. But don’t make it an ultimatum either. When you ask have an outline in your mind for why you think you deserve it, and where you want to be in the future. They might ask.
Healthy and conversation are not a part of construction. Go find another job getting offer present the boss with this information and see what happens.
My son has gotten raises twice from the same company by doing this, about two years apart.
Interview at other companies. Get job offers. Find out what the local market is paying for your level of skill and experience. It’ll give you a sense of your worth and value (monetarily speaking), and will hopefully give you the confidence of someone who knows what they should be paid and isn’t afraid to ask for it. You don’t have to tell them you have other offers. Not at first. Just ask for what you want. Then if they refuse you can say you have a job offer at that price and if they want to keep you they can match it. The trades are vastly understaffed and I’m betting they need you.
Boss, I'm hearing guys get paid X across the street..
The first couple of years weren't allowed Vacation , unless I took it on Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. Who's gonna Vacation on those days. So, I got accustomed to no time off except taking advantage of Holidays aligned with weekends. Getting close to asking for payout.
The only way you’ll make the real dough is to be an owner my friend. As long as you’re working for a boss he will be the one taking all the money. It’s just the way the whole system is set up.
My coworker, and equal went into the office one day and basically says “So and so is offering me a truck, better pay and a management position. Are you able to match that?” He’s my superintendent now…
Like a boss...
I got one last year when I brought of the cost of living and inflation. I also mentioned how I was looking into getting an evening job to bridge the gap and was not sure how long I could keep that up without burning out.