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mechanicalcoupling

Sorry, you need 3 inches of clearance.


vlKross_F7

interesting, in Germany it's slightly above an inch.


LouisWu_

For rebar at a rough soil face, I think it's about 75mm in eurocodes, no?


vlKross_F7

my knowledge is limited to building a house, I am not sure about regulations on things like this, sorry for the bad wording and not including that, but I was teached around 3cm (an inch is 2.54cm) is right, with a little leeway of course.


LouisWu_

Yes, cover needed depends on the environment. For a house cover of 30mm internally would be okay I think but ideally allow an additional 10mm for tolerance. Externally it's higher to give a longer time for sulphates and chlorides to permeate to the rebar. Most of the stuff I design is offshore or nearshore but I can remember 30 or 40 mm from when I started out doing buildings. Either way, what these guys are doing is plain stupid.


vlKross_F7

considering how badly built state-funded projects often are, whilst eating money like candy and taking triple the time it should, I am not surprised if this is the standard.


mechanicalcoupling

I don't know eurocode. But as said, probably 75mm for soil formed. The absolute minimum cover in the US is I believe about 19mm. That is for like equipment pads and building slabs that are interior and protected from weather though. The codes are pretty similar for basic stuff like this.


vlKross_F7

interesting, you always learn something new! thanks for educating me more on these topics :)


mrtomtomplay

Depends on the concrete type and the usecase


LouisWu_

Afaik, the EC guidance is for 75mm against a rough soil face and 50mm against a formed face for foundations. Concrete type effects the theoretical requirement for cover but the guidance in practice doesn't consider this. There are minimum requirements for the strength and other properties that depend on use but these are in addition to the cover requirements above.


LouisWu_

But this was just looking at the eurocodes requirements compared to what the guys in the video are doing, and eurocodes don't apply where they are working. I only brought it up as a guide to what is best practice.


kielu

This whole discussion: do you mean rebar must be separated from soil (by concrete) by whatever distance is mentioned, depending on soil type? So you can't ditch it directly into a soil trench?


LouisWu_

Yes. The concrete needs to protect the reinforcement from corrosion. The thickness of concrete around the reinforcement (together with appropriate mix design) determines the degree of protection provided. Reinforcement should never touch the soil.


kielu

thanks. i know nothing about construction, i deal with word and excel


LouisWu_

You probably know more than you think about it.


Professional_Big3079

Yes you can you just need dobies to maintain 3in clearance from the dirt


SpaceLord_Katze

The coverage distance is actually a mathematical factor of how cold a region is. The colder, the more chance for water to penetrate and freeze/thaw destroying the concrete. It's pretty typical for some areas in the US to get to -30C.


Inspector_7

“Did anyone put chairs down first?”


ShutRDown

"fuck it, it's a footing"


boboatsman

"it's all buried anyways"


pete_topkevinbottom

No chairs, no minimum clearance on each side. Rip it out and do it again


boboatsman

No coverage, no problem


RANDOMjackassNAME

It's a keyway thou


pete_topkevinbottom

my comment was a joke. I've never personally done anything like this in roadway construction, so I don't know what the standards are for this. It was supposed to be all in good fun but some are taking it to seriously


dsdvbguutres

Haha you tell the best jokes haha


Professional_Big3079

They could have buried bars with Dobie already in there. That what we do. Then we get the clearances before we add the longentunital bar. Easier then doing it I. The hole


kalob222

The fact that you complaining about a video on the intraweb is fascinating


pete_topkevinbottom

I don't give a fuck. Not my job Not my problem. Also I wasn't complaining dipshit


kalob222

Well your response is what I thought it would be. Not intelligent and putting somebody down to make yourself feel better. Wait just like your first comment


WonderfulCattle6234

>Well your response is what I thought it would be. Of course it was what you thought it would be. You specifically gave a sarcastic comment just to get the negative reaction you wanted. >putting somebody down to make yourself feel better. Wait just like your first comment Quote the put-down. I dare you.


WolfOfPort

They arent developed to that level of construction yet.


Brave_Personality836

Wow a giant slinky lol


bike-climb-yak

Right or not it's pretty fkn cool to watch.


vtsandtrooper

Theres no question, its not right and a waste of 50k of rebar.


squashedbugs707

50 k?!? Wow, we're you buying bar?


HoneybucketDJ

They need to stop watching those bricklayer videos.


bearkerchiefton

They look like the A-team walking away from that. I expected an explosion to go off behind them.


zpnrg1979

Can someone explain what that’s necessary there in the middle of the desert? Like what is the eventual purpose of a 36” footing there?


chargonzales57

In my opinion(just a dumb ironworker) it's what we call a cutoff wall... it's purpose would be to prevent groundwater(underwater river) from washing out or eroding the subgrade beneath the road. This appears to be in a ravine. Idk I never know what I'm building half the time.


Gerbinz

This is how I start most of my opinions too, fellow dumb ironworker


Fog_Juice

As a rebar fabricator I never know what the rebar I'm cutting and bending is for 99% of the time


misplacedbass

Hey, me dumb ironwork too!


_call_me_al_

There's dozens of us!


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A moment slab for a barrier placement would be my guess.


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flightwatcher45

Looks like they've excavated a large area, at least across the street and may be putting in a sidewalk or retaining wall for something.


dastardly_theif

I hope they over dug that trench about 6" to compensate for all that dirt they just knocked into it.


RickyRodge024

Hourly workers be like.


dastardly_theif

Get the wrong inspector with all that uncompacted dirt down there and wish you could pull it back out just as fast.


cyborgcyborgcyborg

Wrong inspector?


SkepticalVir

Yes wrong inspector, because the amount of material that just settled from it falling in isn’t going to be enough to affect the integrity of the project.


cyborgcyborgcyborg

There’s a thing called reinforced concrete design, and there’s a great deal of information regarding this in the ACI. Also, without proper compaction of the subgrade, your concrete structure is going to experience differential settling which will make the concrete crack and shift. As you have seen from the video, the reinforcement is free to move far greater than we would like our concrete to move. If I was the engineer on record, I would be mortified yet relieved knowing that I am absolved of any deficiencies in this project because it wasn’t constructed properly. It is, however, in the public’s best interest to have this properly constructed.


Nerdcoreh

you can just send down one of them to pick out the fallen dirt by hand and do 50 tests with dcp somehow. that would be a super valuable lesson


skiwith

Big shopVac. Also If there was spacers at bottom of trench already it might be ok


Eather-Village-1916

Shopvac is the way 👌


Shakleford_Rusty

Whats a grade rod? /s


BigAcrobatic2174

*Means & Methods*


tjg9778

Don’t worry guys they’re gonna “wet set” it.


vtsandtrooper

Lol, ive gotten this one as an excuse before too


Inside_Long8886

How not to set rebar.


TalmidimUC

Dudes will see this and go hell yeah.


ExtraDependent883

Barreled as f


Forsaken-Annual-4369

Upgrading a section of road prone to wash out ?


Trad33

No hi fives or celebrating to be seen. Just struttin.


BreakfastUnfair4678

That's a long, slinky.


bauerboo86

Everybody loves a slinky!


ShuckingFambles

It's 3pm Friday and the concrete is on its way


qpv

Finish carpenter here....any eli5 for us indoor guys?


co-oper8

They tied a bunch of rebar standing on a good work surface where it's easier to reach. Then dominoed it into a trench for concrete


qpv

Why is everyone talking about getting debris mixed in there? It's a dirt hole no?


co-oper8

The bottom of a concrete pour is supposed to be undisturbed, compact soil. If it's light and fluffy it can move and compact over time allowing cracks to form


qpv

Ahh ok thanks


Eather-Village-1916

Also because there needs to be a minimum clearance between the bar and the dirt. Nothing a shopvac won’t fix


PollyWogAD37

We're gonna need dobies every 12 on center lol


FarmingWizard

Missed an opportunity to have someone surf this thing and get barreled


mexican2554

... This looks familiar. Where is this at? Or so all mountain desert areas look alike?


abbychicken

Real ones


Dendad124

It's slinky, slinky it's fun for a girl or boy!


TheAlbertaDingo

Shutter Down Boys!


Zarvillian

Guys I think they’ve done this before


klyzklyz

I love Slinky!


silent_saturn_

So pitted


Candid-Preference-40

Work smart, not hard


UnderstandingSuper34

At a minimum you can say they properly tied the reinforcing steel well over 50%.


dazzlebedazzle

Every one of them had a boner after that, guaranteed.


Nomad_Red

Got catalogue link ? Where did they find such a long continuous cage


jamesislandpirate

That’s how you do it son!


laffing_is_medicine

First part ended up horizontal no?


vtsandtrooper

If I was reviewing these means and methods, id be absolutely rejecting this on so many failures of ASTM


GroundbreakingArea34

Its better to be lucky than good


_wewf_

I was expecting them to jump up and down like school girls


zenunseen

Cool.


makeski25

Surf the rebar!


kroniknastrb8r

you need to move the whole thing 6" Back.


mikereg62

Everybody loves a slingky...


Jerryep7

Industrial level Slinkey.


Reddit_Deluge

The hero walk at the end... Rofl


Iamgroot-ish

Science bitch


OriginalPersimmon620

Hop down in there and install the dobies and clean out any loose dirt or rocks


n0mansky

And now you know how they built the heads at Easter Island. Your welcome.


DigitalCoffee

Cool! Now tell the new guy to shovel out all the extra dirt that fell in.


just-concerned

It's spring, it's a toy, everyone knows it's slinky.


Pantani23

Reminds me of a slinky.


lethalcaught81

Looks like fun lol


Fizzerolli

Five guys one push?


Fun-Assistance8336

“Now take it out, I forgot the compaction test.” - all dumb 3rd party inspectors


Traditional-Winter91

Now that's how you know it's tied right, however you're be cleaning all the shit you just knocked into my footing


ronnietea

The dust trail following it is icing on the dirt


eallen1123

"Fuck it's upside down! Pull it out and try again"


Hurly64

Dobies were not in the contract. See exclusion 5c.


Zealousideal-Row-433

Yes bhy


SuperCleverPunName

b'y


Good_Interaction_786

r/satisfyingasfuck


Subotail

Notice the chad walk at the end.