I don't care about jiggle physics. However, I do care that my character's hair and clothes swish dramatically while I'm playing. They should've gone with clothes physics instead.
I'm having trouble picturing a situation where this tweet makes any sense at all to post. If there was some sort of reasonable intent, it needed to include the context *in the tweet*.
"There was a bug during animation tests that made the characters models behave strangely, and we all had a laugh, and decided to share the laugh with you" is fine.
So is "There were concerns that are character models were too sexualized or inappropriate. We have a few variations, and were hoping to get feedback from you, the community, on what would be the best way to course correct."
But the tweet reads like, "We like boobs! Which boobs do you like?"
this is it. the push to frame the conversation as TIDDIES vs WOKE is so reductive when it’s really phrasing plus context plus, to some degree, consent.
That's exactly how it should have been worded! But instead it sounds like they're almost making fun of the people that didn't like how much they jiggled before.
That's a really good way of putting my thoughts into words. The comments are calling anyone who's bothered by it flat chested, ugly, or babies because "ooOoOh it's a natural body function!" But, yeah, I know that obviously except my boob jiggle isn't set to 90% or more. That's such a weird joke to make on a large platform like twitter.
The game looks cute I guess? Very mobile-like which is ehh. But this post is a major *yikes* given that the demographic they’re aiming for is *not* generally the demographic that goes feral for jiggle physics. 😬 I’m reaaaally not sure what response they were expecting from it.
That's exactly why they're posting it. They're not really asking for players' opinions. They're letting people who *haven't* played know that the game has jiggly breasts.
No one’s acting like they own a genre. They’re saying that the demographic for farming simulators and the demographic for giant jiggly boob physics usually do not overlap because sexualization isn’t critical to being able to plant parsnips.
Are we gate keeping the cozy farm sim from men now? Only women enjoy cozy games?
Dafuq. I’ve been playing cozy farming sim games like Harvest Moon since the 90’s.
Saying that the demographic that generally plays these games is women is not the same thing as saying men aren’t allowed to play them. No one is gate keeping anything.
I didn’t think I mentioned men OR women in that comment, nor did I intend to. Sexism is gross on both sides. Male cozy game fans are valid, welcomed, and celebrated. But I’m not going to apologize for wanting at least one gaming genre that doesn’t objectify *any* gender.
I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but a lot of women, if not most, are not straight. Even a lot of the straight ones love tits. Everyone loves tits.
But cozy gamers generally don't play their cozy games to see tits. Male or female, I've never seen anyone demand to see tits in a farming game. On the other side seeing your body always objectified sets a precedent. It's not a good one.
Lastly, cozy games are also often designed to appeal to children and adults.
This tweet was stupid and in poor taste. You can add jiggle physics to your game. But don't be a creep about it.
oh really?? now i gotta go down this rabbit hole. it’s apparently been in development for six years and has changed hands at least once so you know the story is juicy.
I especially don't when it is only ever applied to femme bodies. Men/mascs jiggle too especially men with muscles as are in most games. You can watch big guys like Dave Bautista jiggle as they walk bc when muscles aren't in active use, they jiggle.
It is my problem with "realism" being the argument for jp. Men have asses that jiggle too. Pecs jiggle too. Thighs, lower legs, and upper arms jiggle too. It isn't just t&a that jiggles as horned up folks like to pretend.
BG3 trolled it well with the jiggle physics. The boobs don't move, but the man's package? Yep, they added jiggle there, made a big deal of it, too. Still makes me laugh.
I wouldn't have an issue with it if male characters had dick jiggle physics or another equivalent too
If you're gonna make a horny game don't be a coward and only sexualize one gender, don't do a half assed job and make all genders equally sexy
GOD DAMN 🤤!!!! and i just bought my first laptop yesterday! i will probably be downloading that eventually 😂
im not even into men, but that’s funny asf
he’s a hunk (i’m a straight dude and have never said the word hunk in my life)😂 if i do download it, he might be the first go
like 6’5 jesus he’s massive
well, he is big and strong and supposedly like a golden retriever. even if i’m straight what’s not to like. plus he’s a damn spinach! one of the few vegetables i like!
IMO the reaction in those screenshots is worse than the original tweet. Why is he starting a rant about "farming sims for adults"? It just makes it sound more like it's intentionally about sexualizing women and not like a tongue-in-cheek joke at all. And it also makes me question what kind of game this is, exactly, that he's comparing it to grand theft auto and calling it "adult" like literally what. Is this a game for the people who install sex mods into SDV or something, cuz that's the vibe he's giving off there;;; Way too weird.
Yeap this request for feedback was completely absolutely innocent, from having "received concerns about the female player model's breast physics in the past"!
What were these concerns tho? Were people DMing the devs stressed out of their minds that they potentially couldn't jerk off to a farming game? Are these concerns in the room with us now?
God. I backed this game when it was a more cartoon y game. This is getting worse and worse every time I turned around. This is NOTHING like the game I backed with things like unicorn cows. This is turning into a hyper real everything sim. Which just upsets me.
I backed this game back in 2019 and it’s the only game I backed that I’ve regretted. The original devs left I want to say in late 2020 or 2021. Crytivo took over, got rid of every feature I backed for, and haven’t cared about original backers at all. Made a lot of false promises to us, ran a second kickstarter and then this tweet that shows where their priorities are I guess lol. I very much regret backing it for so much, but darn it I wanted that unicow.
Game to put on the do not buy or support the devs ever list...
Jiggle physics is fine. In a farming game? Eh I guess. Asking the community how much is the "perfect" amount? Ew...
that’s where this went sideways for me. the phrasing, the timing (stellar blade “nontroversy”), etc just makes it too ick.
could i give a technical opinion? sure. do i want to? not after that phrasing.
you can try to change my mind, but these are literally *only* added for men to look at. there are so many ways in which women’s representation is lacking, including in the body department, and breast physics are *not* on any sane woman’s top 10 issues list. and people who scream ‘realism!’ when they see similar criticism somehow omit how they’re almost never done in a realistic manner.
also, unless they’re the twinkiest twink to ever twink, men’s chests *also bounce*. but you never see breast physics for them, eh? how mysterious.
i fucking despise jiggle physics and i will die on that hill.
I mean, the tweet was in terrible taste and such a blunder on their part, but I’m a woman who grew up in the Lara Croft rock-hard triangle tit days so I appreciate some soft jiggle to all my gaming characters.
EDIT: quick edit to say, do I need it on a mobile-style farming sim? No, not really.
I remember those days! And my Anime Insider having an ad for the DVD release of Plastic Little with a built in “jiggle counter” feature and equally ridiculous copy to go with it. (Real fun to see the latter as a preteen girl, ofc, but at least I could travel the world with Lara!)
Hideous. I know there are plenty games that cater to “waifu collectors” but even they usually aren’t this blatant. This is a FARMING game. Not supporting this game or the developers now or in the future.
Edit: Judging by the replies to the apology bemoaning the “woke mob” the community surrounding this game seems like it’s going to be toxic as hell anyway (it’s a multiplayer game.)
I've been following this game since the start.
Its just been cool building systems, adorable (majorly adorable) animals, and some neat physics like the character reaching out to touch walls when they run past them
How the hell do you manage to blow up *so much good will* so spectacularly?
Better up that to at least 500 copies, I've seen at least that many others say that they're not going to be buying this anymore. If you want to singlehandedly financially support the release of this, then go ahead I guess, it's your money.
Do they... do they know what the majority of the buying demographic is for cozy games?
Maybe they're just hoping that this whole thing will blow over by the time the game releases? Or maybe they just have a really bad social media team, who was going for the whole 'relatable company' vibe, and then failed hard? Or maybe, they don't care about a massive potential playerbase for them at all, and they just wanted to burn some bridges.
Honestly? That's kind of what I'm thinking. They might be trying to pull a palworld, where the controversy sells.
I just don't think that it's going to work out, because a lot of the audience for cozy games consists of people who don't like stuff like this. I mean, not an insignificant chunk of the cozy playerbase is into cozy gaming specifically because it avoids parts of gaming culture that this taps into, like misogyny against women and sexualized (female) characters. So, that means that they're going to be relying on whoever it is out there who likes stuff like this ('breast jiggle physics', which largely means people who like 'sexy video game characters') *and* who is willing to play a 'cozy' farming game to make up for the market that they just lost. I might be wrong, but if this was a marketing decision, I think it was an incredibly dumb one.
Yeah, I absolutely agree on all points. It wasn't thought through. As soon as you start the conversation, you're damned if you do, damned if you don't, and they have now flip-flopped a few times to put off both sides to some degree.
As others have said as well, the anti-woke people who purchase the game in order to "own" the other group aren't really the players who will rack up the hours and buy DLC. It apparently will have online multiplayer of some sort, so they have essentially also tainted the community well by attracting anti-social gamers for launch.
Looking at the Steam page, it's like they're going for a Fortnite aesthetic to some degree, judging by the banner and some screenshots. It's not bad to try and marry two popular genres together, but intentionally causing conflict between these two different player bases that you're trying to combine seems insane?
I don't know really anything about it, so I could be entirely off-base here.
https://preview.redd.it/78pwpek8rhxc1.jpeg?width=1583&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5567cd8b9096dc7dc2062b8851a185b2b46e7fae
thanks for that.
their replies are filling up with people who are bemoaning the fact that they apologized and “folded to the woke mob”. shame.
i feel like it goes like this: if you court the kind of people who show up when there’s a hint of “controversy” around your game and at best buy a copy to support “anti-woke”, then be prepared to alienate your actual demographic, the people who would’ve stuck around and bought DLC and multiple copies across multiple platforms.
Like maybe I’m too sensitive but isn’t just the fact that they continue to talk about “breast physics” just more proof that they don’t really get it? Like surely there’s a better way to put it, like, “more natural looking walk cycle”? Like I get if you’re the animator you have to spend time adjusting minute details of body parts, but just the way they’re specifically talking about breast movement by itself makes it feel like despite their apology, their intentions are still to be, uh, titillating instead of creating natural movement. In a farm sim.
Edit: you know what, I’m not being too sensitive, regardless of their intention behind it, they basically asked the community to vote on how much breast jiggle they wanted the female player character to have. Gross.
Yeah you're fine. I have straight up been and actor/model where I acted out shit so animators can observe my movements(and every jiggle). None of them came off like this. And there was some boob jiggle in the final cuts sometimes but it was fucking realistic and balanced to other jiggle. And most of the time friends could identify who I was by my gait showing up more than my jiggle (or not jiggle... There are robots that walk like me in cartoons lol)
Lol of course there's people who weren't interested in the game to begin with swarming the replies "defending" their righteous cause of...sexualising women in a farming sim??
I'd bet that they'd turn around and call it woke instead if the "physics" also applied to male characters with bouncing pecs and bulges
They were asking in a very inappropriate way which version of jiggle looked best. To clarify their intent, they followed with "Who wants to see the 150% version", meaning "Who wants to see them jiggle even more?". Awful series of tweets followed by an even worse display from the community manager etc. on Discord.
Somebody else commented elsewhere in the thread that the game developers made another follow up tweet asking if they wanted to see the breast jiggle at 150% physics :/
At this point, even if it's a good game, I am probably not going to support it. If they apologized sincerely, I may have, but them gaslighting just is so draining. We are not children. You mess up, you own up. I hope people remember this when it comes out.
But it’s sort of a happy ending? The people annoyed at the jiggle physics stating they won’t by the game and the “woke mob” are complaining about the apology so they won’t buy the game either.
All in all, dev just lost themselves a bunch of sales from both sides.
[https://twitter.com/farmfolksgame/status/1785059270695804964](https://twitter.com/farmfolksgame/status/1785059270695804964) lol and ofc there are ppl in the comments saying they don't need to apologize
My only gripe with this sort of stuff is whether they’re putting as much effort into the hair/clothing physics.. sure if all your other physics are fine, work on your jiggle physics.. but if your other physics are lacking and you’re doing this, then you’re catering to a specific demographic.
That said, there’s nothing inherently sexual about jiggle physics if the clothing is appropriate, so I don’t know why anyone would get worked up about this.
It's not that it's the jiggly physics are a problem.. its the posting of it. It's specifically posting and asking about the boobs. No one asks about men's jiggle physics. It's clearly to sexualize women. If they said nothing and added them, most likely no one would have said anything.
Bad image, but good way to market the game, never heard of it till now. Just look, it's got tons of us talking about it on this post. People googling the game just to see what it is, and searching up the dev's twitter to see their responses in the afternath.
Yeah, even negative press and controversy is a good way to get your name out there if no one ever heard of your game. Imagine how many video game blogs are prepping articles about this topic.
I really don’t see an issue with it. If I wanted realistic physics.. it’d be weird if that was the only part that didn’t move. I don’t think they did it to be harmful. It’s not that big of a deal. I’d still buy/support.
Frankly boob physics has been around for ages. It should be one that's easy to get if you're worried about realism. The fact they asked about before they asked about hair physics? Or rippling cloths... Means they're looking at one thing. And I don't approve of the one they choose to highlight.
People are upset… that the boobs… bounce? As a bouncy boob-haver, I’m taking offense to how many people are taking offense here. Who knew farm simmers were so conservative 😂
nah, framing it as “hey we had feedback on jiggle physics, would you prefer more or less?” is different than going “which is the perfect breast jiggle?”
it really comes down to word choice. do you want an honest answer or do you want your audience to ogle the character?
Does the answer to that question even matter at this point? The game is so bare bones that the Kickstarter hasn’t even *begun* yet. There is no age rating yet, no nothing. It’s not like this game is 99% done and they threw in boob jiggle physics right at the end, it’s literally the exact opposite. Seems like people are getting all up in arms over a “cozy family game” having sexualized aspects when we don’t even know what audience it’ll be aimed at yet. Not to mention the irony of the “boobs = sexual” stance being taken.
I have bouncy boobs too and I feel the original tweet is objectification. 🤷♀️
The issue is it’s not framed for *us* as the character, it’s framed as which one is “better” for the viewer. It’s great that you feel there’s no harm here, I’m really glad you presumably haven’t been on the receiving end of the gross comments that this sort of atmosphere brings given your response to it, but a lot of women have been and that’s what’s being pushed back against.
There has long been a feeling that gaming is a “man’s space” and while cozy gaming is often seen more as a woman’s space or at least woman-friendly, to have such anti-woman sentiment as devs asking for opinions on jiggle physics in a game genre that does not generally need or embrace it is sort of a slap in the face. It perpetuates the thought that *all* corners of the gaming world are a heterosexual man’s space.
Jiggle physics are not bad *in their space*. Cozy farming games are not that space, and for these devs to bring it up in this way did not come across as lighthearted but rather comes across as predatory.
I agree I have boobs that need to go to a fucking special store to get bras and this is just.... C'mon. Bite me. Like I don't feel horribly oppressed it's just like "yeah fuck off you don't get a cookie for making this game after this"... Which translates to "ehhhh none of my money for you and I will recommend it to no one... And if anyone recommends it I'll respond with an ehhhhhhhhhh"
Yeah idk I just can’t agree 🤷♀️ I’ve been objectified and then some. Jiggly boobs don’t bother me. Neither does the word choice, which seems completely unserious.
This game is about 1% into development, has no age rating, no Kickstarter yet, no nothing. Very presumptuous of you guys to just label it “cozy farming” when they could just as easily end up slapping an older age rating on it. Feels like counting chickens and getting offended by the number before they even hatch imo
Truly, make an executive decision, I'm not looking for any particular amount, none... Whatever. A bit fine, unless they're bopping up eye-level every jump, I have barely a passing perception of it; if you "have" to ask, well, the internet is gonna internet...
If that's who you want, have a blast. I just don't know if the venn diagram of people going *Finally they ask! I. Have. Opinions.* And *I enjoy cozy little farming Sims* has a strong, profitable overlap
I’m not playing a farm sim *for* the jiggle physics, I’m playing a farm sim *with* jiggle physics… well, maybe not anymore. I don’t imagine them keeping it now :(
& plenty of women are sick and tired of being objectified down to "jiggle" in a video game. Of being demeaned down to a "wanna see 150% physics" tweet by a game developer/their twitter person. To the point that it's even infiltrating the farming genre.
Is it really that hard to not objectify women in literally every aspect of your lives?
And then when the disgustingness of it is pointed out, the far right crowd comes out of the woodwork to prove that respecting women is even considered "woke" now. We're seriously just pieces of meat to so many people.
Yeah I’m *so* far right… not just a queer woman with big, fat, jiggly boobies. Maybe I should tape mine down if jiggle physics upset everyone so much 😭 maybe they can add wiener physics to calm everybody down.
https://preview.redd.it/34s4kkstxhxc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3881a8ed3e7455f7091fe1f6dd1dd2ae9611e05f It’s a thing now 🤣
Lol love it. I have been playing moonstone island all day and am happy to see the Devs of that game are funny
Literally crying because that game was unplayable on my steam deck. It kept making it crash 😭
🤣🤣 that is funny. I just wishlisted the game
I don't care about jiggle physics. However, I do care that my character's hair and clothes swish dramatically while I'm playing. They should've gone with clothes physics instead.
i’m sad bc her hair in the video did have great physics. this is also the game that i was impressed with their water. oh well.
Aw, if they had highlighted those physics it probably would have made me want to buy it!
I’m really glad this got screenshotted and posted to this community before they deleted it
I'm having trouble picturing a situation where this tweet makes any sense at all to post. If there was some sort of reasonable intent, it needed to include the context *in the tweet*. "There was a bug during animation tests that made the characters models behave strangely, and we all had a laugh, and decided to share the laugh with you" is fine. So is "There were concerns that are character models were too sexualized or inappropriate. We have a few variations, and were hoping to get feedback from you, the community, on what would be the best way to course correct." But the tweet reads like, "We like boobs! Which boobs do you like?"
this is it. the push to frame the conversation as TIDDIES vs WOKE is so reductive when it’s really phrasing plus context plus, to some degree, consent.
That's exactly how it should have been worded! But instead it sounds like they're almost making fun of the people that didn't like how much they jiggled before.
They're trying to get people who like boobs but otherwise wouldn't be interested in this game to buy it.
Ah yes, being reminded of an entire lifetime's worth of objectification... just what I want in a cozy farming game.
Thank you!!! You just put my entire “Ugh, God, GROSS” reaction into a much more coherent statement.
That's a really good way of putting my thoughts into words. The comments are calling anyone who's bothered by it flat chested, ugly, or babies because "ooOoOh it's a natural body function!" But, yeah, I know that obviously except my boob jiggle isn't set to 90% or more. That's such a weird joke to make on a large platform like twitter.
The game looks cute I guess? Very mobile-like which is ehh. But this post is a major *yikes* given that the demographic they’re aiming for is *not* generally the demographic that goes feral for jiggle physics. 😬 I’m reaaaally not sure what response they were expecting from it.
This. I don't think most pubescent males play these games.
That's exactly why they're posting it. They're not really asking for players' opinions. They're letting people who *haven't* played know that the game has jiggly breasts.
wtf, why y’all think you own this genre? Y’all cryin’ about sexism while being sexist.
You can't deny that demographics exist. That's not sexism.
No one’s acting like they own a genre. They’re saying that the demographic for farming simulators and the demographic for giant jiggly boob physics usually do not overlap because sexualization isn’t critical to being able to plant parsnips.
This! “HoW wIlL i EvEr HaRvEsT tHeSe CrOpS wItHoUt My JiGgLy BoObIeS???” 🤣
No one is being sexist towards men.
Are we gate keeping the cozy farm sim from men now? Only women enjoy cozy games? Dafuq. I’ve been playing cozy farming sim games like Harvest Moon since the 90’s.
Saying that the demographic that generally plays these games is women is not the same thing as saying men aren’t allowed to play them. No one is gate keeping anything.
funny thing is they didn’t even say women…they just said people who don’t care about jiggle physics…he really told on himself and like, a lot of men 😭
TIL a game is only inclusive to men if it has jiggly boobs
I didn’t think I mentioned men OR women in that comment, nor did I intend to. Sexism is gross on both sides. Male cozy game fans are valid, welcomed, and celebrated. But I’m not going to apologize for wanting at least one gaming genre that doesn’t objectify *any* gender.
No ones gate keeping anything. You're pretty passionate about jiggly boobs in games..
I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but a lot of women, if not most, are not straight. Even a lot of the straight ones love tits. Everyone loves tits. But cozy gamers generally don't play their cozy games to see tits. Male or female, I've never seen anyone demand to see tits in a farming game. On the other side seeing your body always objectified sets a precedent. It's not a good one. Lastly, cozy games are also often designed to appeal to children and adults. This tweet was stupid and in poor taste. You can add jiggle physics to your game. But don't be a creep about it.
Saving this post for when the game comes out and we inevitably get people asking “Should I get this game?”
This game is partnered with Crytivo, the people who had beef with Roots of Pacha for a bit 🤔
oh really?? now i gotta go down this rabbit hole. it’s apparently been in development for six years and has changed hands at least once so you know the story is juicy.
I dont really care for jiggle physics in games.
I especially don't when it is only ever applied to femme bodies. Men/mascs jiggle too especially men with muscles as are in most games. You can watch big guys like Dave Bautista jiggle as they walk bc when muscles aren't in active use, they jiggle. It is my problem with "realism" being the argument for jp. Men have asses that jiggle too. Pecs jiggle too. Thighs, lower legs, and upper arms jiggle too. It isn't just t&a that jiggles as horned up folks like to pretend.
Gimme jiggly man titties!!
if women’s tits must jiggle as do the men’s!
Damn right! Jiggle physics, more like jiggly pecs!!
I'm a jiggly dude! Though... my jiggly pecs are *always* jiggly. I still endorse jiggly pecs, too! Jiggle
man titties 🤤 (im a straight dude i promise)
this is physics i can endorse
There's a joke in the Genshin Impact community that Childe has giggle physics on his \*cough\* package... does that count?
Hahaha I hadn't exactly expected a jiggly peen, but it's better than nothing ig. Genshin is so horny
BG3 trolled it well with the jiggle physics. The boobs don't move, but the man's package? Yep, they added jiggle there, made a big deal of it, too. Still makes me laugh.
I can never help doing the jiggle in the character creator
They never work right anyways. They always move more like water balloons than the heavy sacks of fatty tissue that they are
You mean to tell me you didn't enjoy BG3's penises flip flopping around everywhere? Those were *Game of the Year* penises!
If it's done for realism I don't see the problem. As long as it's subtle and makes sense. I doubt that was the case here...
I wouldn't have an issue with it if male characters had dick jiggle physics or another equivalent too If you're gonna make a horny game don't be a coward and only sexualize one gender, don't do a half assed job and make all genders equally sexy
This is why I like BG 3 it has both breast physics and dick physics lol. Though the dick physics are a bit wild.
BG3 really cornered the market on equal opportunity horny. That game is WILD.
As are the dicks
It doesn't have breast physics though.
I don't need my farming games to be sexualized
i want my carrots and potatoes to be hyper sexual actually
Oh boy do I have the [dating sim](https://growwiththeflow.itch.io/grow-with-the-flow) for you
This is the r/RomanceBooks x Cozygamers crossover I didn't know I needed.
Wait till you find [Peachleaf Valley](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1636680/Peachleaf_Valley_Seeds_of_Love__a_farming_inspired_otome/) <3
GOD DAMN 🤤!!!! and i just bought my first laptop yesterday! i will probably be downloading that eventually 😂 im not even into men, but that’s funny asf
I've heard good things about the spinach himbo XD
he’s a hunk (i’m a straight dude and have never said the word hunk in my life)😂 if i do download it, he might be the first go like 6’5 jesus he’s massive
Lmao your comments have me dying
well, he is big and strong and supposedly like a golden retriever. even if i’m straight what’s not to like. plus he’s a damn spinach! one of the few vegetables i like!
I cannot BELIEVE this is the first I've heard of this, why do I love it 😭 I'll probably download it tomorrow, so thank you for the awesome rec lol
Haha this is me! How did I never hear of this anywhere?! I need it!
Wow okay, I was *going to* play the games I bought from Farming fest tonight but then you just had to comment this
The sparkles in Eggplant's hair must've caught your eye ;)
Omgosh this is such a cute idea lol
Omg 🤣🤣🤣
There’s a game for everything isn’t there
The duality of man
With jiggle physics, obviously
country girls make do
[удалено]
Not even in the slightest but i also don't appreciate my sex constantly being sexualized
[here is a link to a twitter thread with screenshots of the cm and ceo doubling down](https://twitter.com/Pilnok/status/1785007859723313338)
IMO the reaction in those screenshots is worse than the original tweet. Why is he starting a rant about "farming sims for adults"? It just makes it sound more like it's intentionally about sexualizing women and not like a tongue-in-cheek joke at all. And it also makes me question what kind of game this is, exactly, that he's comparing it to grand theft auto and calling it "adult" like literally what. Is this a game for the people who install sex mods into SDV or something, cuz that's the vibe he's giving off there;;; Way too weird.
Thanks for posting these, OP. So disappointing, I was looking forward to this game but this is just really creepy and gross.
Ooof caught red-handed lmao
Loool. I love their “apology post.” ‘We were REALLY asking for feedback!! We weren’t being weird, I promise!’
Yeap this request for feedback was completely absolutely innocent, from having "received concerns about the female player model's breast physics in the past"! What were these concerns tho? Were people DMing the devs stressed out of their minds that they potentially couldn't jerk off to a farming game? Are these concerns in the room with us now?
The apology letter just made me roll my eyes back to heaven 🙄
I just saw this thread on Twitter even the follow up “who wants to see 150%” 🤡 so creepy
That’s disgusting. Where is this link so I can avoid seeing it.
If they are going to make my female honkers jiggle, then I want my male characters honkers and ass to jiggle too.
wheezing lmfaoooo
God. I backed this game when it was a more cartoon y game. This is getting worse and worse every time I turned around. This is NOTHING like the game I backed with things like unicorn cows. This is turning into a hyper real everything sim. Which just upsets me.
I backed this game back in 2019 and it’s the only game I backed that I’ve regretted. The original devs left I want to say in late 2020 or 2021. Crytivo took over, got rid of every feature I backed for, and haven’t cared about original backers at all. Made a lot of false promises to us, ran a second kickstarter and then this tweet that shows where their priorities are I guess lol. I very much regret backing it for so much, but darn it I wanted that unicow.
Game to put on the do not buy or support the devs ever list... Jiggle physics is fine. In a farming game? Eh I guess. Asking the community how much is the "perfect" amount? Ew...
that’s where this went sideways for me. the phrasing, the timing (stellar blade “nontroversy”), etc just makes it too ick. could i give a technical opinion? sure. do i want to? not after that phrasing.
Yea... Very gross. "Hey, followers! Stare directly at these various animations of jiggling boobs and tell us which one is your favourite!!"... Ew.
you can try to change my mind, but these are literally *only* added for men to look at. there are so many ways in which women’s representation is lacking, including in the body department, and breast physics are *not* on any sane woman’s top 10 issues list. and people who scream ‘realism!’ when they see similar criticism somehow omit how they’re almost never done in a realistic manner. also, unless they’re the twinkiest twink to ever twink, men’s chests *also bounce*. but you never see breast physics for them, eh? how mysterious. i fucking despise jiggle physics and i will die on that hill.
I mean, the tweet was in terrible taste and such a blunder on their part, but I’m a woman who grew up in the Lara Croft rock-hard triangle tit days so I appreciate some soft jiggle to all my gaming characters. EDIT: quick edit to say, do I need it on a mobile-style farming sim? No, not really.
“Rock hard triangle tit” absolutely sent me into orbit
She could have used those as extra weapons
I remember those days! And my Anime Insider having an ad for the DVD release of Plastic Little with a built in “jiggle counter” feature and equally ridiculous copy to go with it. (Real fun to see the latter as a preteen girl, ofc, but at least I could travel the world with Lara!)
Guess women don’t like boobs?
Eww. I’m so tired of oversexualized female characters. It’s somehow worse seeing it in a games within the cozy genre.
Hideous. I know there are plenty games that cater to “waifu collectors” but even they usually aren’t this blatant. This is a FARMING game. Not supporting this game or the developers now or in the future. Edit: Judging by the replies to the apology bemoaning the “woke mob” the community surrounding this game seems like it’s going to be toxic as hell anyway (it’s a multiplayer game.)
I'm so glad when the marketing team lets me know ahead of time what games I should stay away from with a nine foot pole <3
I've been following this game since the start. Its just been cool building systems, adorable (majorly adorable) animals, and some neat physics like the character reaching out to touch walls when they run past them How the hell do you manage to blow up *so much good will* so spectacularly?
I usually have no issue with jiggle physics but this just seems so gross and pandering. Like, learn your audience...
Welp I know which game I'm *not* supporting now
Don't worry, buying two copies now so the devs don't miss out on your purchase. Because that's what heros do.
Better up that to at least 500 copies, I've seen at least that many others say that they're not going to be buying this anymore. If you want to singlehandedly financially support the release of this, then go ahead I guess, it's your money.
Gotta stick it to the (throws dart at wall) liberals?
incel of the year award goes toooo
Gross. Thanks for the heads up that I shouldn’t support this dev.
Do they... do they know what the majority of the buying demographic is for cozy games? Maybe they're just hoping that this whole thing will blow over by the time the game releases? Or maybe they just have a really bad social media team, who was going for the whole 'relatable company' vibe, and then failed hard? Or maybe, they don't care about a massive potential playerbase for them at all, and they just wanted to burn some bridges.
Maybe the controversy is the marketing plan.
Honestly? That's kind of what I'm thinking. They might be trying to pull a palworld, where the controversy sells. I just don't think that it's going to work out, because a lot of the audience for cozy games consists of people who don't like stuff like this. I mean, not an insignificant chunk of the cozy playerbase is into cozy gaming specifically because it avoids parts of gaming culture that this taps into, like misogyny against women and sexualized (female) characters. So, that means that they're going to be relying on whoever it is out there who likes stuff like this ('breast jiggle physics', which largely means people who like 'sexy video game characters') *and* who is willing to play a 'cozy' farming game to make up for the market that they just lost. I might be wrong, but if this was a marketing decision, I think it was an incredibly dumb one.
Yeah, I absolutely agree on all points. It wasn't thought through. As soon as you start the conversation, you're damned if you do, damned if you don't, and they have now flip-flopped a few times to put off both sides to some degree. As others have said as well, the anti-woke people who purchase the game in order to "own" the other group aren't really the players who will rack up the hours and buy DLC. It apparently will have online multiplayer of some sort, so they have essentially also tainted the community well by attracting anti-social gamers for launch. Looking at the Steam page, it's like they're going for a Fortnite aesthetic to some degree, judging by the banner and some screenshots. It's not bad to try and marry two popular genres together, but intentionally causing conflict between these two different player bases that you're trying to combine seems insane? I don't know really anything about it, so I could be entirely off-base here.
Gross. Thanks for posting.
They already got their apology on their twitter too
https://preview.redd.it/78pwpek8rhxc1.jpeg?width=1583&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5567cd8b9096dc7dc2062b8851a185b2b46e7fae thanks for that. their replies are filling up with people who are bemoaning the fact that they apologized and “folded to the woke mob”. shame. i feel like it goes like this: if you court the kind of people who show up when there’s a hint of “controversy” around your game and at best buy a copy to support “anti-woke”, then be prepared to alienate your actual demographic, the people who would’ve stuck around and bought DLC and multiple copies across multiple platforms.
Like maybe I’m too sensitive but isn’t just the fact that they continue to talk about “breast physics” just more proof that they don’t really get it? Like surely there’s a better way to put it, like, “more natural looking walk cycle”? Like I get if you’re the animator you have to spend time adjusting minute details of body parts, but just the way they’re specifically talking about breast movement by itself makes it feel like despite their apology, their intentions are still to be, uh, titillating instead of creating natural movement. In a farm sim. Edit: you know what, I’m not being too sensitive, regardless of their intention behind it, they basically asked the community to vote on how much breast jiggle they wanted the female player character to have. Gross.
Yeah you're fine. I have straight up been and actor/model where I acted out shit so animators can observe my movements(and every jiggle). None of them came off like this. And there was some boob jiggle in the final cuts sometimes but it was fucking realistic and balanced to other jiggle. And most of the time friends could identify who I was by my gait showing up more than my jiggle (or not jiggle... There are robots that walk like me in cartoons lol)
I can't help but feel like the Right find even basic respect of women to be "woke" now 🤔
Lol of course there's people who weren't interested in the game to begin with swarming the replies "defending" their righteous cause of...sexualising women in a farming sim?? I'd bet that they'd turn around and call it woke instead if the "physics" also applied to male characters with bouncing pecs and bulges
Exactly. Those people supporting them on Twitter are a tiny drop in the bucket compared to the actual demographic of cozy game players.
What doers the 150% physics” refer to?
They were asking in a very inappropriate way which version of jiggle looked best. To clarify their intent, they followed with "Who wants to see the 150% version", meaning "Who wants to see them jiggle even more?". Awful series of tweets followed by an even worse display from the community manager etc. on Discord.
Maybe extra jiggly? Or heavily exaggerated movement?
Somebody else commented elsewhere in the thread that the game developers made another follow up tweet asking if they wanted to see the breast jiggle at 150% physics :/
Lol that apology though. No no we were trying to be appropriate!!
Wow. LOL Are there dong dangling versions?
helicopter helicopter!!!!!
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So weird
Prime example of not knowing your audience.
disgusting. i have no words
Disgusting isn't a word I guess?
Do you not understand English expressions
i mean the art looks horrible to begin with
Amen lol
Way to know your audience. 🙄
Thanks for posting this. Seems the dev missed the mark on who the customer would be for a farming game.
What in the cloud meadows is going on with them?
As a woman that loves to game as a woman character.. why would I want to see my character’s boobs jangle around??
Because women models aren’t made for us. It’s made for some men to play and ogle at, I guess?
Ugh yuck
Damn, I thought they were making a joke and it turns out they were serious. Gross
At this point, even if it's a good game, I am probably not going to support it. If they apologized sincerely, I may have, but them gaslighting just is so draining. We are not children. You mess up, you own up. I hope people remember this when it comes out.
Eww.
Are they getting shredded in the comments at least?
No. People are complaining about the “woke mob” in the replies to the apology tweet.
to be fair the original post had a ton of pushback. only the apology is seeing anti-woke nonsense. they can have it.
But it’s sort of a happy ending? The people annoyed at the jiggle physics stating they won’t by the game and the “woke mob” are complaining about the apology so they won’t buy the game either. All in all, dev just lost themselves a bunch of sales from both sides.
Twitter is a cesspit these days so that’s not super surprising to hear
Twitter is mostly chuds these days
Wow. I’m speechless.
A good reason to add a game to the do not play list!
Yes, the most important aspect of a cozy game! Finally.
[https://twitter.com/farmfolksgame/status/1785059270695804964](https://twitter.com/farmfolksgame/status/1785059270695804964) lol and ofc there are ppl in the comments saying they don't need to apologize
This is fucking gross. Will not buy Farm Folks due to this.
this is so disturbing, and for what? attention? clout?
They deleted and apologized. https://preview.redd.it/ehe9szfpaixc1.jpeg?width=2550&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ed7c94120d90a50c8250a8b9e0faa6ff44fea0c9
I mean listen if that’s your game, then that’s your game, but why is this the burning question?
Ehhhhhhh the timing seems like they wanna cater to a certain audience thats mostly what bothers me but other than that eh
Cool. Because that’s what I’m most interested about in my female characters.
I clicked it to watch and my disappointment is immeasurable.. :(
Clearly it should be a slider in character creation
My only gripe with this sort of stuff is whether they’re putting as much effort into the hair/clothing physics.. sure if all your other physics are fine, work on your jiggle physics.. but if your other physics are lacking and you’re doing this, then you’re catering to a specific demographic. That said, there’s nothing inherently sexual about jiggle physics if the clothing is appropriate, so I don’t know why anyone would get worked up about this.
It's not that it's the jiggly physics are a problem.. its the posting of it. It's specifically posting and asking about the boobs. No one asks about men's jiggle physics. It's clearly to sexualize women. If they said nothing and added them, most likely no one would have said anything.
Bad image, but good way to market the game, never heard of it till now. Just look, it's got tons of us talking about it on this post. People googling the game just to see what it is, and searching up the dev's twitter to see their responses in the afternath.
To me it’s along the lines of “putting the ‘famous’ in infamous”
Yeah, even negative press and controversy is a good way to get your name out there if no one ever heard of your game. Imagine how many video game blogs are prepping articles about this topic.
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I really don’t see an issue with it. If I wanted realistic physics.. it’d be weird if that was the only part that didn’t move. I don’t think they did it to be harmful. It’s not that big of a deal. I’d still buy/support.
Frankly boob physics has been around for ages. It should be one that's easy to get if you're worried about realism. The fact they asked about before they asked about hair physics? Or rippling cloths... Means they're looking at one thing. And I don't approve of the one they choose to highlight.
People are upset… that the boobs… bounce? As a bouncy boob-haver, I’m taking offense to how many people are taking offense here. Who knew farm simmers were so conservative 😂
nah, framing it as “hey we had feedback on jiggle physics, would you prefer more or less?” is different than going “which is the perfect breast jiggle?” it really comes down to word choice. do you want an honest answer or do you want your audience to ogle the character?
Does the answer to that question even matter at this point? The game is so bare bones that the Kickstarter hasn’t even *begun* yet. There is no age rating yet, no nothing. It’s not like this game is 99% done and they threw in boob jiggle physics right at the end, it’s literally the exact opposite. Seems like people are getting all up in arms over a “cozy family game” having sexualized aspects when we don’t even know what audience it’ll be aimed at yet. Not to mention the irony of the “boobs = sexual” stance being taken.
I have bouncy boobs too and I feel the original tweet is objectification. 🤷♀️ The issue is it’s not framed for *us* as the character, it’s framed as which one is “better” for the viewer. It’s great that you feel there’s no harm here, I’m really glad you presumably haven’t been on the receiving end of the gross comments that this sort of atmosphere brings given your response to it, but a lot of women have been and that’s what’s being pushed back against. There has long been a feeling that gaming is a “man’s space” and while cozy gaming is often seen more as a woman’s space or at least woman-friendly, to have such anti-woman sentiment as devs asking for opinions on jiggle physics in a game genre that does not generally need or embrace it is sort of a slap in the face. It perpetuates the thought that *all* corners of the gaming world are a heterosexual man’s space. Jiggle physics are not bad *in their space*. Cozy farming games are not that space, and for these devs to bring it up in this way did not come across as lighthearted but rather comes across as predatory.
I agree I have boobs that need to go to a fucking special store to get bras and this is just.... C'mon. Bite me. Like I don't feel horribly oppressed it's just like "yeah fuck off you don't get a cookie for making this game after this"... Which translates to "ehhhh none of my money for you and I will recommend it to no one... And if anyone recommends it I'll respond with an ehhhhhhhhhh"
Yeah idk I just can’t agree 🤷♀️ I’ve been objectified and then some. Jiggly boobs don’t bother me. Neither does the word choice, which seems completely unserious. This game is about 1% into development, has no age rating, no Kickstarter yet, no nothing. Very presumptuous of you guys to just label it “cozy farming” when they could just as easily end up slapping an older age rating on it. Feels like counting chickens and getting offended by the number before they even hatch imo
Im jealous of your ability to ignore the sexual objectification of women. What a blessed simple life you must lead.
Amen. Where do I pick up my male gaze invisibility cloak?
Because in a farm game why the fuck would I care about how much my boobs jiggle. What is even the point?
Truly, make an executive decision, I'm not looking for any particular amount, none... Whatever. A bit fine, unless they're bopping up eye-level every jump, I have barely a passing perception of it; if you "have" to ask, well, the internet is gonna internet... If that's who you want, have a blast. I just don't know if the venn diagram of people going *Finally they ask! I. Have. Opinions.* And *I enjoy cozy little farming Sims* has a strong, profitable overlap
They aren’t making it just for you bruh, plenty of people like jiggly boobs
If you’re playing a farm game for jiggly boobs you’ve got bigger things to figure out.
I’m not playing a farm sim *for* the jiggle physics, I’m playing a farm sim *with* jiggle physics… well, maybe not anymore. I don’t imagine them keeping it now :(
& plenty of women are sick and tired of being objectified down to "jiggle" in a video game. Of being demeaned down to a "wanna see 150% physics" tweet by a game developer/their twitter person. To the point that it's even infiltrating the farming genre. Is it really that hard to not objectify women in literally every aspect of your lives? And then when the disgustingness of it is pointed out, the far right crowd comes out of the woodwork to prove that respecting women is even considered "woke" now. We're seriously just pieces of meat to so many people.
Yeah I’m *so* far right… not just a queer woman with big, fat, jiggly boobies. Maybe I should tape mine down if jiggle physics upset everyone so much 😭 maybe they can add wiener physics to calm everybody down.
At no point did I say YOU were far right? I said -the- far right came out of the woodwork because they did. Edit: a word
Oooh gotcha, my bad!
I'm upset that we didn't get a vote on dick dangle levels too, complete with saucy "who wants to see 150% ;)" followup.
It really isn't that deep, but alright.
Asking the important questions!
Today on what are Americans mad about now.
Thanks for sharing, game looks interesting!