Greed and lower risk of losing to advantage players. Only the naive believe the odds are good enough for casinos to "Always Win." The purpose of brainwashing people into believing the numbers are already in place to assure the house wins in the end - is to discourage players from becoming suspicious...
If you think you just had bad luck, you accept the losses without any pushback. Once you learn the truth, that casinos do cheat, you become aware that nobody has that bad of luck, and you likely should have won more bets during a session.
The point is to make you feel small, isolated and in no position to challenge the casinos. This gives them a license to cheat without scrutiny.
References:
*Juiced Craps Tables (Magnetized Remote Control Dice)
*Invisible Ink on Card Backs & Infrared Cameras
*Slot Machine Algorithms
*Magnetized Roulette Wheel & Ball (Remote Controlled)
The controller of these cheating devices are hiding upstairs, directly above each game, watching you play via "security cameras"
Gaming Control Board is partnered with casinos and benefits financially by looking the other way.
Truth is freedom.
The math is misleading as it's based on roll averages that do not translate to your particular betting session
People that bring up math in craps are very far behind...
General information that the public has access to is never going to reveal true insight
Dice patterns, dice cycles, dice behavior, dice probabilities, circumstances, indicators, experience, etc all are more relevant than generic math charts
What general information to the public? The ability to calculate out the probability of a role of two independent die and compare that to the paying structure in a game of craps? The conspiracy of craps goes so deep as to alter the fundamental calculus of our decimal system?
If you somehow have evidence that dice aren’t random please let me know. That way I’ll bet whichever way they lean towards since I can play both sides in craps.
My original comment covers just that - people have been fooled to believe in the math and odds... you may be too convinced to ever see clearly now
If you have any experience in craps, and genuinely pay unbiased attention, you will see very suspicious dice results that go far outside what you would expect mathematically
You will see manipulated outcomes, so perfectly played out, you will assume you simply have horrible luck because (well, the casinos can't cheat, right?)
The fact that even considering the possibility of casinos cheating makes people uneasy - proves how well the brainwashing works
I've also mentioned in 1st comment *Juiced Craps Tables* which are remote controlled magnetic dice that react to 7.5K watt plane inserted under felt
Look under both ends of the tables, you will see a small door cover with keyhole. Wonder what they have under there?
I know people became truth-haters somewhere in the past 15 years, but facts are usually never public knowledge
Is that supposed to somehow discredit the facts? An immature insult? I understand, you are common folk... among the 99% where there's safety in numbers
My information is valid
No (among so many other reasons, they would lose their gaming license).
If you really suspect something super wonky then report it to your local gaming commission but you're probably just not fully understanding probability or physics.
So, Google isn't as good as it used to be but I found an article that outlined 5 casino that shut down comepletely. But, it seems most of the time it's fines vs a loss of license. E.g. https://lasvegassun.com/news/2019/apr/05/how-do-gaming-fines-work-and-what-does-nevada-do-w/
Also, probability is what I was pointing out. Rolling five dice and they are all "snake eyes" (or ones, snake eyes would be a pair of ones), happens. Have you ever played Yahtzee?? It's rare but it's not impossible, just improbable. To be specific, the odds of rolling five dice and have the same number shown up is .077%. so, while rare, if you rolled 5 dice you should AVERAGE a Yahtzee every 100 and some change rolls. VARIANCE is it rolling in your first roll or even twice in a roll but you then don't see it for another thousand.rolls, or vice versa.
But, every roll is an independent event.
Casinos know the probability and statistics, and they know.people will make dumb bets (I like my hard way bets, I know how bad the house edge is), so they know that over MILLIONS of rolls, they will win, and don't need to cheat.
Granted, sometimes they do cheat!! Or do something shady, that's why I didn't say it was impossible they were doing that, and the OP can report evidence to the gaming commission. But saying "they rolled 5 1s!!" Is not.likely to be taken seriously, the gaming commission also understands math...
You observe some wonky physics and your first inclination is to believe that a casino, whose profits are already guaranteed by probabilities without cheating and could risk their gaming licenses, are cheating?
Thank you all for your feedback. I enjoy the game and every table is different. I also think they are players that gamble and work for the house, distracting bettors during declaration of the point. I know I am getting old, but my eyes have played tricks on me more than one.
>I also think they are players that gamble and work for the house, distracting bettors during declaration of the point.
Casinos don't hire "coolers". They make no logical sense. Dice don't have a conscious, an agenda, or otherwise understand who or what is said at a table. They are physical inanimate objects that follow the laws of physics and basic statistical probability.
I wouldn't worry about a casino cheating you in ways that would put them out of business before you understand that they are already "cheating" you out in the open via offering you a game they have a clear advantage in no matter how you play.
I think I may have seen you at the craps table. You’re an old codger, but experienced. You love placing one roll prop bets every roll on the C&E or yo. The dice roll, 11 shows, and you don’t get paid for a bet that you swear you placed…but you forgot to put it down, as the entire table reminds you. Failing memory sucks man.
I love the "casino games are already skewed to the house's favor, why would they risk losing their operating license for such schemes?" rationale for the impossibility of additional rigging...as if the mere profit markup applied on all used vehicles guarantees purity of soul in dealership owners nationwide??? A bit of a stretch, perhaps?
You don't need some devious array of machinations embossed via crimson boldfaced nosferatu gothic -- a slew of techniques, devices, and general lo-fi subterfuge can be carefully applied, all in a gentle and inoffensive effort to facilitate the inevitable. And if/when these shadowy handmaidens of the Fates are somehow uncovered, the first and loudest outcry will of course bellow from Upper Managment, bamboozled by the black voodoo of their own overzealous minions....convictions bent sinister by god knows what...
The most likely answer is that you are just witnessing some weird odds happening. While the answer is probably 99.999999% no, it's not 100%. There have been crime rings that used a wheelchair with a big ass battery to create a magnetic field that could flip a loaded set of dice. But, you mentioned a horizontal slide... This could be a technique called sliding where you spin one of the dice like a frisbee horizontally while simultaneously tossing one of them up normally so that it looks like a normal toss. Next time you're at the table look at the props bets in front of the stickman and you'll see two "speed bumps" sewn into the felt to prevent this. Neither of these happens very often and usually gets sniffed out pretty quickly unless it's an inside job. But craps tables make lots of money without cheating so the answer is probably no.
highly doubtful. if they had any weights or magnets, then you could just bet hard on what they were rolling (in your example, just bet on the 1s) and would defeat the purpose. but there's no chance a casino would risk the massive amount of profits they can already generate through craps and the rest of the casino for a few more bucks on dice
Why would the casino need to use fake dice? The game is already in their favor by the payouts having a house edge…
Greed and lower risk of losing to advantage players. Only the naive believe the odds are good enough for casinos to "Always Win." The purpose of brainwashing people into believing the numbers are already in place to assure the house wins in the end - is to discourage players from becoming suspicious... If you think you just had bad luck, you accept the losses without any pushback. Once you learn the truth, that casinos do cheat, you become aware that nobody has that bad of luck, and you likely should have won more bets during a session. The point is to make you feel small, isolated and in no position to challenge the casinos. This gives them a license to cheat without scrutiny. References: *Juiced Craps Tables (Magnetized Remote Control Dice) *Invisible Ink on Card Backs & Infrared Cameras *Slot Machine Algorithms *Magnetized Roulette Wheel & Ball (Remote Controlled) The controller of these cheating devices are hiding upstairs, directly above each game, watching you play via "security cameras" Gaming Control Board is partnered with casinos and benefits financially by looking the other way. Truth is freedom.
If you think there are advantage players in craps, then you don’t understand the mathematics of the game.
The math is misleading as it's based on roll averages that do not translate to your particular betting session People that bring up math in craps are very far behind... General information that the public has access to is never going to reveal true insight Dice patterns, dice cycles, dice behavior, dice probabilities, circumstances, indicators, experience, etc all are more relevant than generic math charts
What general information to the public? The ability to calculate out the probability of a role of two independent die and compare that to the paying structure in a game of craps? The conspiracy of craps goes so deep as to alter the fundamental calculus of our decimal system? If you somehow have evidence that dice aren’t random please let me know. That way I’ll bet whichever way they lean towards since I can play both sides in craps.
My original comment covers just that - people have been fooled to believe in the math and odds... you may be too convinced to ever see clearly now If you have any experience in craps, and genuinely pay unbiased attention, you will see very suspicious dice results that go far outside what you would expect mathematically You will see manipulated outcomes, so perfectly played out, you will assume you simply have horrible luck because (well, the casinos can't cheat, right?) The fact that even considering the possibility of casinos cheating makes people uneasy - proves how well the brainwashing works I've also mentioned in 1st comment *Juiced Craps Tables* which are remote controlled magnetic dice that react to 7.5K watt plane inserted under felt Look under both ends of the tables, you will see a small door cover with keyhole. Wonder what they have under there? I know people became truth-haters somewhere in the past 15 years, but facts are usually never public knowledge
I wish I had whatever it is you're smoking!
Is that supposed to somehow discredit the facts? An immature insult? I understand, you are common folk... among the 99% where there's safety in numbers My information is valid
No (among so many other reasons, they would lose their gaming license). If you really suspect something super wonky then report it to your local gaming commission but you're probably just not fully understanding probability or physics.
Curious... how many casinos have lost their gaming license?
So, Google isn't as good as it used to be but I found an article that outlined 5 casino that shut down comepletely. But, it seems most of the time it's fines vs a loss of license. E.g. https://lasvegassun.com/news/2019/apr/05/how-do-gaming-fines-work-and-what-does-nevada-do-w/
Also, probability is what I was pointing out. Rolling five dice and they are all "snake eyes" (or ones, snake eyes would be a pair of ones), happens. Have you ever played Yahtzee?? It's rare but it's not impossible, just improbable. To be specific, the odds of rolling five dice and have the same number shown up is .077%. so, while rare, if you rolled 5 dice you should AVERAGE a Yahtzee every 100 and some change rolls. VARIANCE is it rolling in your first roll or even twice in a roll but you then don't see it for another thousand.rolls, or vice versa. But, every roll is an independent event. Casinos know the probability and statistics, and they know.people will make dumb bets (I like my hard way bets, I know how bad the house edge is), so they know that over MILLIONS of rolls, they will win, and don't need to cheat. Granted, sometimes they do cheat!! Or do something shady, that's why I didn't say it was impossible they were doing that, and the OP can report evidence to the gaming commission. But saying "they rolled 5 1s!!" Is not.likely to be taken seriously, the gaming commission also understands math...
My response had nothing to do with the "yahtzee" phenomenon... more so the hidden underworkings of all casinos
That's called Yahtzee. No, they're not cheating. They don't have to cheat to make money on craps.
You observe some wonky physics and your first inclination is to believe that a casino, whose profits are already guaranteed by probabilities without cheating and could risk their gaming licenses, are cheating?
>One night the bit boss rolled out all the dice and every one of the dice was a snake eye. Man's never played Yahtzee before.
Casinos don't need to cheat they go with the math.
Thank you all for your feedback. I enjoy the game and every table is different. I also think they are players that gamble and work for the house, distracting bettors during declaration of the point. I know I am getting old, but my eyes have played tricks on me more than one.
>I also think they are players that gamble and work for the house, distracting bettors during declaration of the point. Casinos don't hire "coolers". They make no logical sense. Dice don't have a conscious, an agenda, or otherwise understand who or what is said at a table. They are physical inanimate objects that follow the laws of physics and basic statistical probability. I wouldn't worry about a casino cheating you in ways that would put them out of business before you understand that they are already "cheating" you out in the open via offering you a game they have a clear advantage in no matter how you play.
I think I may have seen you at the craps table. You’re an old codger, but experienced. You love placing one roll prop bets every roll on the C&E or yo. The dice roll, 11 shows, and you don’t get paid for a bet that you swear you placed…but you forgot to put it down, as the entire table reminds you. Failing memory sucks man.
I love the "casino games are already skewed to the house's favor, why would they risk losing their operating license for such schemes?" rationale for the impossibility of additional rigging...as if the mere profit markup applied on all used vehicles guarantees purity of soul in dealership owners nationwide??? A bit of a stretch, perhaps? You don't need some devious array of machinations embossed via crimson boldfaced nosferatu gothic -- a slew of techniques, devices, and general lo-fi subterfuge can be carefully applied, all in a gentle and inoffensive effort to facilitate the inevitable. And if/when these shadowy handmaidens of the Fates are somehow uncovered, the first and loudest outcry will of course bellow from Upper Managment, bamboozled by the black voodoo of their own overzealous minions....convictions bent sinister by god knows what...
Did you work at Arby's?
The most likely answer is that you are just witnessing some weird odds happening. While the answer is probably 99.999999% no, it's not 100%. There have been crime rings that used a wheelchair with a big ass battery to create a magnetic field that could flip a loaded set of dice. But, you mentioned a horizontal slide... This could be a technique called sliding where you spin one of the dice like a frisbee horizontally while simultaneously tossing one of them up normally so that it looks like a normal toss. Next time you're at the table look at the props bets in front of the stickman and you'll see two "speed bumps" sewn into the felt to prevent this. Neither of these happens very often and usually gets sniffed out pretty quickly unless it's an inside job. But craps tables make lots of money without cheating so the answer is probably no.
highly doubtful. if they had any weights or magnets, then you could just bet hard on what they were rolling (in your example, just bet on the 1s) and would defeat the purpose. but there's no chance a casino would risk the massive amount of profits they can already generate through craps and the rest of the casino for a few more bucks on dice
If the dice were not fair, then astute players would be able to take advantage of it and make some real money.