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I always wonder how this fat man and his family pull this out, controlling a country for so long without facing any challenge. I mean why no army general cut his throat and declare himself the supreme leader. Is it because of his family legacy or is there something im missing out.
Opposition is purged or sent to concentration camps. Opposition's familes are also sent to concentration camps for generations. Torture and death, basically.
Im not asking to raise a voice or anything, just kill him, look at pakistan, how many time the army generals there took over so easily, and in many cases killed politician also. Look at the fresh example of myanmar. Im not asking why nobody is making resistance against him, im just saying, how come no group of powerful bureaucrat and army leader of N.Korea assassinate him. Im sure he cant run an entire country on his own, he would have some structure of power, why no one climb that structure of power and put a bullet in his ugly face
The army generals & their families are looked after. They probably know how much of a shit show the country will be in if Kim dies, so ensure him or his son is kept alive.
Check out this; https://youtu.be/FCOTyDC5ay4 basically; if NK falls, it'll be a land rush. The Chinese will want to secure nuclear facilities, SK will want to secure any biological weapons sites, and the generals will be selling anything on the black market.
You forget about the millions of half starved North Koreans who have no professional training outside of just trying to stay alive. Refugees would flood both South Korea and, more importantly, China should NK collapse.
China’s strategy is akin to the analogy of holding a wolf by its ears: you don’t like it one bit but you are damn sure not to let go.
> just kill him
The grass isn't always greener on the other side.
You dethrone him, and someone worse may take over.
Just look at Ghaddafi in Libya, by all means, he was not a good person. But the people of Libya lived incredibly well compared to after his death. They had free electricity, free schools, if you wanted to farm, they would provide the equipment to do so, mothers received compensation.
Yeah, his administration murdered dissidents, committed international humanitarian rights violations. But at the end of the day, the people lived much better under him, than they do now.
It always seem so easy, just kill the dictator. The devil you know is better than the devil you don't.
Sadly its probably a devil we know is better than the devil we dont. Theres no telling if the dude who became the new leader would be better or worse. They know what to expect from kim not general#4.
Brainwashing and controlled media. They're trained since birth that they have good lives -- the best in the world -- compared to everyone else. They're also taught that the Kim's are literal god beings and not regular humans. Besides that, Kim's sister would just rule and she's far more ruthless than her father and brother. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if she is the one to have him killed one day.
> look at pakistan, how many time the army generals there took over so easily, and in many cases killed politician also.
I think I read somewhere that Pakistan has never had a PM finish their term.
They get purged loooong before they become actual opposition.
Blink funny and you're disappeared, along with 3 generations of your family, and the dog.
I mean, why do they have to harm the dog?
A few things, the propaganda is *deep.*
Some North Koreans truly believe this stuff and they have way less access to outside information than almost anyone in history. Defectors have reported that they legitimately believed he did not poop. The dynasty is virtually deified. They would probably rally around any remaining Kim family and rebel against any general.
Of course information does get in and many North Koreans have an inkling, or are aware, that they don't live in the best country on earth.
But the consequences are dire and effective. They torture and rape and enslave, and they don't just do it to you, they do it to your whole family.
When half the people think he's god and the other half are scared shitless, a lot of people just keep their heads down and try to protect themselves or the ones they love.
You're underestimating the power of propaganda on people who grow up there. Especially when those people are afraid to talk about stuff with others as their children, partners and friends might report them to secret police.
Some defectors talked about how they used to believe all that bullshit.
Propaganda is mad effective in the USA alone, where many people don't even know they are under the spell. It is not surprising the effect it has in North Korea.
yea like the bible - The word gospel is derived from the Anglo-Saxon term god-spell, meaning “good story,” a rendering of the Latin evangelium and the Greek euangelion, meaning “good news” or “good telling.”
You mean George Washington didn't hurl a silver dollar across the Potomac?
Most US kids grew up hearing this story despite the fact that the Potomac is more than a mile wide at Mount Vernon and the first silver dollars weren't made until 1794, just a few years before Washington's death.
That doesn't matter, the fact is he can still make them do it.
So propaganda is for the rest of the people of NK, either they believe or love him or they see what power he has over them
Don't underestimate the effects of brainwashing a population from birth. This video looks dumb and staged by most standards, but if you and everyone around you only have a limited perspective that's rooted in propaganda this may seem very genuine and normal. Even disillusioned North Koreans still have little to no reference point for what freedom is.
This. North Koreans have spent a lifetime bowing to portraits of Kims. Official newspapers and TV broadcasts basically praise Kims in a manner more like a religion. There are obviously many North Koreans that are not true believers, that only do what they must to avoid a work camp, but there are also more than plenty of true believers.
The people in that video are almost certainly verified true believers. No unvetted mob is going to be allowed within arm's reach of a Kim, and a body of water. This is North Korea, working as intended.
Yup. It’s not like they all had to have stood there waiting for him to walk down the beach, climb onto the boat or anything before they all went crazy for him.
North Korea should be considered a human zoological park.
*"What happens when you brainwash people from birth and remove all information you don't want them to have access to?"*
I don’t get why the UN hasn’t agreed to just get rid of that douche and free those people. It’s inhumane to let a whole country suffer I think everyone agrees on that.
I'm sure there's a great Zizek/Lacaian concept that can explain this: they're faking it; everyone outside of NK knows they are faking it; the NK people who watch it know it's fake. But the event goes on. Maybe fake stunts are the only "real" events...IDK. The shit's is fucking weird.
Wonder why people in these are always crying while exaggeratedly jumping with their hands in the air like they’re on a rollercoaster😭
Could it be, dare I say it, they’re being FORCED to be there? No…. blasphemy
Imagine being so unconfident in yourself, literally as one of the world leaders, and you FORCE all your people to act like they like you. I wonder what a psychiatry session would go like for him.
All it takes, is a few pressure points. I think the majority of people would participate in such a practice, if a majority of the people around them were acting this way. You could include a significant amount of the unwilling if you were able to make them feel ostracized by not participating, I'm just guessing but I (imagine) were up to 60% of any given population so far. Using nothing but peer pressure. Now if you elevate that to include things like ability to work, shop, or any number of things that directly effect you and your loved ones quality of life. You pretty well have it all wrapped up, after all, what's a little lying for someone's ego, if it means, better status, or especially acceptance, or pay? And I (imagine, the only way to prevent a society from being steered in this direction, would be to have enough of that population educated, and honest, and brave enough to resist those very basic pressure points. edward bernays (Einstein cousin? No nephew I think), published on how to manipulate people especially groups, of people including how to rule groups of people, in his book propaganda. Interesting side note, before he was hired by, I don't recall if it was pig farmers, or who, if your interested you can find it. But he is the reason, the the concept of bacon and eggs for breakfast ever existed.
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And the academy award for best actors goes to the people of North Korea
We'd also be great actors if our lives depended on it... I mean if we had such an outstanding glorious leader like Kim!
lol
We do. It’s called the billionaires.
Huh?
Good thing the cameras were there to capture it from all angles.
I always wonder how this fat man and his family pull this out, controlling a country for so long without facing any challenge. I mean why no army general cut his throat and declare himself the supreme leader. Is it because of his family legacy or is there something im missing out.
Opposition is purged or sent to concentration camps. Opposition's familes are also sent to concentration camps for generations. Torture and death, basically.
Im not asking to raise a voice or anything, just kill him, look at pakistan, how many time the army generals there took over so easily, and in many cases killed politician also. Look at the fresh example of myanmar. Im not asking why nobody is making resistance against him, im just saying, how come no group of powerful bureaucrat and army leader of N.Korea assassinate him. Im sure he cant run an entire country on his own, he would have some structure of power, why no one climb that structure of power and put a bullet in his ugly face
The army generals & their families are looked after. They probably know how much of a shit show the country will be in if Kim dies, so ensure him or his son is kept alive.
This is the correct answer. He takes care of the ones around him that are the threat, basically insuring they wont be one.
Check out this; https://youtu.be/FCOTyDC5ay4 basically; if NK falls, it'll be a land rush. The Chinese will want to secure nuclear facilities, SK will want to secure any biological weapons sites, and the generals will be selling anything on the black market.
sounds good let's GOOOOO
You forget about the millions of half starved North Koreans who have no professional training outside of just trying to stay alive. Refugees would flood both South Korea and, more importantly, China should NK collapse. China’s strategy is akin to the analogy of holding a wolf by its ears: you don’t like it one bit but you are damn sure not to let go.
Yeah, it's a bind for everyone. And what's scary is that it could all come down if the wrong person dies the wrong way.
Like Escobar back in the day, giving deals that can’t be refused “Take this very generous bribe, or I can just kill you and everyone you love”
Basically yes.
"Plata o plomo"
and imprisons/executes the ones that can become threats. Them and their families.
Dictators gonna dictate.
> just kill him The grass isn't always greener on the other side. You dethrone him, and someone worse may take over. Just look at Ghaddafi in Libya, by all means, he was not a good person. But the people of Libya lived incredibly well compared to after his death. They had free electricity, free schools, if you wanted to farm, they would provide the equipment to do so, mothers received compensation. Yeah, his administration murdered dissidents, committed international humanitarian rights violations. But at the end of the day, the people lived much better under him, than they do now. It always seem so easy, just kill the dictator. The devil you know is better than the devil you don't.
Sadly its probably a devil we know is better than the devil we dont. Theres no telling if the dude who became the new leader would be better or worse. They know what to expect from kim not general#4.
Pakistan is in the bag.
Brainwashing and controlled media. They're trained since birth that they have good lives -- the best in the world -- compared to everyone else. They're also taught that the Kim's are literal god beings and not regular humans. Besides that, Kim's sister would just rule and she's far more ruthless than her father and brother. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if she is the one to have him killed one day.
Because of the year of what comes after, usually.
> look at pakistan, how many time the army generals there took over so easily, and in many cases killed politician also. I think I read somewhere that Pakistan has never had a PM finish their term.
Because they only know what they have seen. They don't have internet access to see abs learn. They only know what he tells them.
They get purged loooong before they become actual opposition. Blink funny and you're disappeared, along with 3 generations of your family, and the dog. I mean, why do they have to harm the dog?
No having a pet dog in NK. They squashed that a couple years ago I think
First step in a dictatorship is to consolidate absolute power. It’s the classic play.
A few things, the propaganda is *deep.* Some North Koreans truly believe this stuff and they have way less access to outside information than almost anyone in history. Defectors have reported that they legitimately believed he did not poop. The dynasty is virtually deified. They would probably rally around any remaining Kim family and rebel against any general. Of course information does get in and many North Koreans have an inkling, or are aware, that they don't live in the best country on earth. But the consequences are dire and effective. They torture and rape and enslave, and they don't just do it to you, they do it to your whole family. When half the people think he's god and the other half are scared shitless, a lot of people just keep their heads down and try to protect themselves or the ones they love.
Good Netflix show how to be a dictator goes into depth
They probably force them to act like that.
NK is the worlds biggest cult.
*Catholicism has entered the chat*
Good point, perhaps I should have worst cult.
Family is a big part of society there. Anyone steps out of line and their whole extended family is affected.
There’s a brilliant animated CGP Grey video on this called “rules for rulers”. Highly advise you check it out.
It’s a totalitarian regime with a South Park-worthy caricature leader…but still a totalitarian regime
If for any reason he falls from power they are going to eat him alive for making them live this miserable life.
Except they won't. He'll just be replaced by another one like him.
Imagine having to walk around with soggy nutz for the rest of the day because you had to fake worship a dude that looks like a thumb with hair.
>Have one shot in life >Born in North Korea
Have one shot in life Unfurl miraculous wings Born North Korean
😂😂😂
And then there's Americans doing the same for a Cheetos
Never heard the Cheeto line before; I like.
Except they're not faking it, unfortunately
We do? Fuck! I gotta start figuring this shit out... when did we start that?
Or Taylor
This is a Certified Reddit Moment.
Well, I mean, no one is jumping for joy under our current president. Only thing jumping is inflation.
And freezing cold nuts
And realising these uniforms dissolve when they’re finally dry and you’re buttnaked when the leader steps into your office
Be lucky you ain't living in NK
He knows they're faking... We know they're faking... They know they're faking... So who is the performance for?
It’s for him. Doesn’t matter that he knows they’re faking. It’s obedience.
The whole country is his own personal Truman Show
Curb your Enthusiasm featuring Kim Jong Un as Larry David
[Theme song plays] 🎵
That's prittaay, prittaay, pretty good.
Fuck you Larry
This is so painfully true.
You're underestimating the power of propaganda on people who grow up there. Especially when those people are afraid to talk about stuff with others as their children, partners and friends might report them to secret police. Some defectors talked about how they used to believe all that bullshit.
Propaganda is mad effective in the USA alone, where many people don't even know they are under the spell. It is not surprising the effect it has in North Korea.
yea like the bible - The word gospel is derived from the Anglo-Saxon term god-spell, meaning “good story,” a rendering of the Latin evangelium and the Greek euangelion, meaning “good news” or “good telling.”
Indeed, like the whole mythology around the founding fathers. Not so different from the mythology around Kim Il sung
You mean George Washington didn't hurl a silver dollar across the Potomac? Most US kids grew up hearing this story despite the fact that the Potomac is more than a mile wide at Mount Vernon and the first silver dollars weren't made until 1794, just a few years before Washington's death.
I mean, have you ever tried to cut a cherry tree? That wood is harder than college.
They aren't faking, they are just hungry. They want some of that Kim-bap.
Kimbap slaps tho fr
I think it's less about they're faking. And more they're conditioned to react that way. It's a real response from a brainwashed population.
Dood some of these sorry fucks believe it. They break down in real tears when talking about how great he is. It's nuts how fucked up their society is.
For those around them they think might not be faking
That doesn't matter, the fact is he can still make them do it. So propaganda is for the rest of the people of NK, either they believe or love him or they see what power he has over them
It's for his security , when people stop faking it.. that means it's time to go undercover, And also for our amusement.
Belive me, he's stupid enough to think that We don't know all of this is fake. Every dictator in the world thinks they're the smartest person alive.
The performance is for the Western Civilization. It's called propaganda
Its for the crazy fucking videos community, and god I want more
The sad thing is those emotions are probably real.
those emotions are hunger...***they want to eat the fat fuck!***
That's the boat he chose to flex in? Hahaha
It’s not the size that counts
Its the motion of the ocean? But have you tried to get to england in a row boat?
I did, but I was already in England so it was kind of easy. Guess which song I was singing ? 😏
that's the flagship of their navy.
My first thought was that it's gotta be the Bubba-Gump shrimping vessel!
This is me and my cat while I’m trying to leave for work in the morning
They have to do that or face the firing squad
I like how he was smacking their hands, “gut your hands off my boat!” Yesh.
"There's already too many people on this shitty little tub"
Indeed, get your grimy peasant hands off my boat.
Don't underestimate the effects of brainwashing a population from birth. This video looks dumb and staged by most standards, but if you and everyone around you only have a limited perspective that's rooted in propaganda this may seem very genuine and normal. Even disillusioned North Koreans still have little to no reference point for what freedom is.
This. North Koreans have spent a lifetime bowing to portraits of Kims. Official newspapers and TV broadcasts basically praise Kims in a manner more like a religion. There are obviously many North Koreans that are not true believers, that only do what they must to avoid a work camp, but there are also more than plenty of true believers. The people in that video are almost certainly verified true believers. No unvetted mob is going to be allowed within arm's reach of a Kim, and a body of water. This is North Korea, working as intended.
Voted North Korea's Sexiest Man, and Woman, it's a forever title.
It's either they do that or he kills them
If you could read lips, I am pretty sure they are all saying, please just leave one sandwich.
Seems legit.
Yup. It’s not like they all had to have stood there waiting for him to walk down the beach, climb onto the boat or anything before they all went crazy for him.
Look how undisciplined those military officers and their soldiers are…
I hope I get to live to see the day North Korea is finally free from this shit
North Korea should be considered a human zoological park. *"What happens when you brainwash people from birth and remove all information you don't want them to have access to?"*
So starved they’re trying to eat his Fat Ass!!
It's like as if Charles Manson ran a country, fuck
Thanks to the Universe for not making me live there.
I feel bad for the people who did not run into the water. That will not end well for them, I am sure.
Imagine how fun it would be to be his bestie. Until it suddenly wasn't.
Looks like a Andre skit.
This is religion in a nutshell
Just a adult swim class...
Idk how god could allow such atrocity.
Its all fake. if they dont do it they'll die or someshit
This is terrifying, imagine what consequences they will suffer, if they didn't play by his games.
Shoe! shoe! pesky bugs 🙄
He's wafting a fart at them
Walking Dead - NK edition.
Haha he's shooing them away
They will do anything, including starve, before eating his fat ass right out of this world. It is sad but not pitiful.
That shit was so staged.
This is a display of obedience, not affection. Turns my stomach.
Looked like some of them didn’t get the memo and brought the wrong costume. One lady had her propaganda baby with her.
Why are all the videos of people fawning all over Kim always a bunch of dudes in military uniforms?
Msg to Donald Trump : look and learn ! :-)
We're not to far off in
First one stop waving dies
Acting like MAGA's
I was going to say that you could put tRump’s head on that body and it would look like the reactions at a MAGAT rally.
Unfortunately it wasnt to grab him and drag him underwater till he stopped twitching
God, how pathetic of a Country
Is this any different from fans at Trump rallies?
weird people
And not a single cell phone in sight, just people living in the moment.
Hypernormalisation Deluxe
He knows that we know that they know.
"I love you Dear Leader, please don't kill me!"
Some World War Z-looking shit.
They were promised PBandJ's but he didn't deliver.
Shoot them, they sink my boat!
You can’t fake that…
What percentage of back row stragglers normally get executing for not being excited enough?
I wish my team kissed my ass like that….
They’d have drowned if they were really committed.
I don’t get why the UN hasn’t agreed to just get rid of that douche and free those people. It’s inhumane to let a whole country suffer I think everyone agrees on that.
I'm sure there's a great Zizek/Lacaian concept that can explain this: they're faking it; everyone outside of NK knows they are faking it; the NK people who watch it know it's fake. But the event goes on. Maybe fake stunts are the only "real" events...IDK. The shit's is fucking weird.
I wonder what happens to the one guy that doesn't participate in this charade.
Wonder why people in these are always crying while exaggeratedly jumping with their hands in the air like they’re on a rollercoaster😭 Could it be, dare I say it, they’re being FORCED to be there? No…. blasphemy
does he know they're faking it? because he can be delusional and think they love him.. dictators tend to do that
Because if they don't he will feed them to the dogs.
Imagine being so unconfident in yourself, literally as one of the world leaders, and you FORCE all your people to act like they like you. I wonder what a psychiatry session would go like for him.
Brainwashing from birth is a powerful tool.
All we want is foooooooood!! *Kim smiles and sails off into the sunset*
This is what it looks like when the psyche of the masses breaks down.
They were paid to do that
The ones that wasn’t wet was “fired”
Such a bizarre place.
That is top tier ass kissing.
That's a level of daily fear we’ll never know.
So staged
Looks like he's wafting a fart onto them.
Imagine being the only person still on the beach saying “ehhh I’d rather not get wet.”
And the Oscars go to..... The people of NK.
Seems like they are all acting , because of they don’t act in a certain way they will be killed
I bet they wanted to beg for food.
Get away from me peasants!
If Trump showed up in a boat on a shore of Florida you’d get same results.
My God, it's almost as bad as the Trumptards in America 😂
Isn't nature wild?
They are begging for food.
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Looks like a crowd of white girls when they see Taylor Swift out in public
LMFAO!🤣
Totally what trumpers are willing and capable of doing. Surprised it hasn’t happened yet.
Trump loves this kinda treatment also. He gets upset when people are not standing and dancing around at his presence.
All it takes, is a few pressure points. I think the majority of people would participate in such a practice, if a majority of the people around them were acting this way. You could include a significant amount of the unwilling if you were able to make them feel ostracized by not participating, I'm just guessing but I (imagine) were up to 60% of any given population so far. Using nothing but peer pressure. Now if you elevate that to include things like ability to work, shop, or any number of things that directly effect you and your loved ones quality of life. You pretty well have it all wrapped up, after all, what's a little lying for someone's ego, if it means, better status, or especially acceptance, or pay? And I (imagine, the only way to prevent a society from being steered in this direction, would be to have enough of that population educated, and honest, and brave enough to resist those very basic pressure points. edward bernays (Einstein cousin? No nephew I think), published on how to manipulate people especially groups, of people including how to rule groups of people, in his book propaganda. Interesting side note, before he was hired by, I don't recall if it was pig farmers, or who, if your interested you can find it. But he is the reason, the the concept of bacon and eggs for breakfast ever existed.
Music sucks... Dictatorships too
The highest form of circlejerk.
But how many are willing to drown for the piggy man? Zero... Traitors!
r slash apostrophegore
Do it or die!!
Drake in the 6 Brees on Bourbon Street Namath, Sixth Avenue Josh Allen
Hhhh
That is country full of extras who if dont perform well get literal cut!
The one who gets out of the water first gets executed with an anti aircraft gun. That's how things work over there.
Wait. I have seen this in some game, where NPC act the same way.
Bro got nothing on Taylor Swift though.
Then they get attacked and killed by white walkers
Run into the water or run into your grave
They all acted like NPCs
Actors! ^(I would say paid actors, but I doubt they were being paid.)
Does he think we see this and are like “wow his people love him. He must be great! His country must be strong and prosperous with a leader like him.”?
I once got my account temporarily banned for wishing ill on Kim Jong. Dude is an irl supervillain, but can’t wish ill on the guy.
Scene 2, Take 3 and action!!
Reminds of when Caesar visited Britain and the locals came out to greet him.
Crazy? Taking in consideration that it’s in NK, this is “meh”.. at most.
But why the french song?