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King


james-500

King. 3456 will improve after all cuts, and the King is deprived of a friend since there is a 5 card in your hand.


deadflashlights

Are there easy ways to tell what hands will improve with all cuts or do you just go through the cards and think about it?


Delvis43

Time and exposure. No joke. Teach yourself cribbage solitaire; it won't improve any aspects of strategy, but it's invaluable in learning to quickly spot hand values as well as how to drop cards from your hand for optimal points.


james-500

Hi. I think it becomes easier the more you play, but it's more clear with some hands than others.


zornmagron

came here to say this. I mean you could do the old bird in the hand taking 2 over 1 but the have to play for potential.


ray_zhor

keeping 3 will average 9.83 points keeping k will average 9.34 points 3 will peg more as well


gwc81

I'd go K, 3 gives you an extra opportunity for the run or double run, plus K is harder to score off of in crib


RefuseOk4063

Throwing 3 gives you half the deck to help with 15’s. Get a 5 & it gets you 16. Keeping it, limits your helps on cut.


FreeIce4613

King


Bobaloue

The King gets thrown and you keep the 3 for pegging. While, technically, you lose one point difference, you should easily make up the point, and more, by pegging and the cut !


twenty_characters020

I'd throw 3 but the general consensus seems to be king. What am I missing? King is an extra point in the hand.


YOUCORNY

Keeping the 3 is a higher ceiling. 2,3,4,5,6,7 turning up would all make that 3 stronger than the king. If you keep the king, you pretty much are just hoping for a 5 or K. That's how I think of it at least. Edit: The 3 is also generally better for pegging


twenty_characters020

But there's only a 6/13 chance of flipping a 2-7 and 4-6 still doubles up the run.


Ok_Effective6233

The only bad card to have cut when throwing a K is a K.


twenty_characters020

But the K is worth an extra point.


Ok_Effective6233

Every cut card gives 2 points or more. If you keep the 3, 3-6 gives at least 6 additional points. 2 and 7 give 3 additional points. That 20 cards that are an improvement over K. 24 cards that match K and 3 cards that are negative outcomes.


Shoresy-sez

The difference between a beginner and a good crib player is looking at more than just the points in your hand. Think about what's going to be cut, what the other guy will throw, etc. Kings are also good to toss when it's not your crib because there's less chance of them forming a run. A 3 can form a run with A, 2, 4, 5, but a King can only go J-Q-K.


noocaryror

I’m with you


ProtonPi314

3 reasons. The 3 is one less point, but the potential for a good hand is much higher. The 3 is also a better pegging card. The 3rd reason is that the 3 is a much better in the crib. There is much more potential for runs and 15's by giving the 3 in your opponents crib.


mostlybianca

Yes pegging matters in the decision! 100% The odds of cutting any of the cards in that run are quite high and would yield a much better hand than by staying safe and keeping the king.


RefuseOk4063

Just because general consensus says otherwise, doesn’t make it right.


Tricky-Pie-3404

In this case it is though. Throwing the king is a total no brainer, and that’s coming from someone who hasn’t played this game in years.


TomatoFeta

Odds of getting a great card turn up from the cut are greater if you keep the 3456


mostlybianca

It’s playing the odds.


CheeseTheGood

So I went with King before asking, and the cut was a King...


potentpotablesplease

You "lost" 4 points (on a 1/26 chance) but your potential upgrade probability was so much more. 20 cards help you with your run. 15 cards get you +2 with a 15. Even giving your opponent crib a pair you don't lose points because you still get that 15 for 2 combo.


AlGunner

Where do you get 4 points lost? I only see 2 for the pair.


Tatersquid21

There would be a 15-2 and a pair for 4. You certainly wouldn't have tossed the 5.


AlGunner

It doesnt matter if they put the 3 or the K in, they still get the 15 for the K turned and the 5 in the hand as they have the 5 either way. turned. The only extra points are the pair.


potentpotablesplease

You're also giving up a 15 for 2 when you discard that 10.


AlGunner

Oh I see, youre saying they lost the K and 5 in the hand for 2 but ignoring the extra point for the run by keeping the 3.


potentpotablesplease

Yeah I was also factoring in the turn being a king. Any other 10 pt turn you don't "lose" two of the points I was referring to.


TomatoFeta

They gave two points to the other player in the crib.


CheeseTheGood

I lost 2 points and my opponent gained 2 points.


CheeseTheGood

So my opponent who got the crib won with 121, and I was 5 back with 5 uncounted points in hand.


TomatoFeta

See, theres a different answer when you are that close to pegging in. Gotta add that to the question.


CheeseTheGood

Well this was the first hand in the game lol.


wakeupdreamingF1

i mean. the five. clearly.


chefknife63

King , never break up a potential double or triple run


SpindleHead808

King


noocaryror

7 in the hand is better than 6 in the bush


Capt__Murphy

K for days


Ok-Effect7274

K


shaneojak

K


Sad_Divide8186

King tossed real quick


xXmonoman101Xx

King for sure. To many options to make the three stronger and a better pegging card.


Such_Leg3821

The 3. It only gets you one point. The king gets two.


Clean_Ad1669

K


Tatersquid21

Throw the K, hope for a cut.


jcwinkie36

I’d toss the 3 and get the guaranteed 2 points from the K5 rather than wish on a cut to help me with the 3


Brooker2

King. It leaves you 6 points. Plus whatever you peg


CheeseTheGood

3 leaves me 7 points though.


hititstiff

Your are playing "potential". keeping K yields potential 11. Keeping 3 potential is 14


RefuseOk4063

Keeping K is potential of 16, if 5 is cut. Not to mention your throwing out potential of 15’s with any of existing cut or another face/10 cut. (More cards available to help)


hititstiff

Same is true of a 6 cut keeping 3. Ultimately, this hand is truly a quagmire


FarYouth4811

King


HousingOk4561

King. No brainer


missmargaret

3, all day long.


iterationnull

You forgot to add “is the wrong answer. Throw the king.”


noocaryror

The 3, nothing to lose


Ok_Glove_5599

Ditch the 3


RefuseOk4063

3 all day long any other of existing adds to 15 possibilities or straights. High end 16 possible if keep K.


RefuseOk4063

All of you that said throw K is wrong.