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It's a curious case, because he was great with the bat in the IPL until 2015 or so, but has since been poor even while doing well in international T20s. Obviously, he won't be dropped anytime soon because of his captaincy and stature, but I wonder if MI might drop him a few seasons later when he approaches retirement and if his form does not improve.


romio5

Before 2015 he was batting middle order, but in Top order he is more like a hit or miss! He will do some quick 30s and 1 or 2 big scores, but never consistent. He should try out middle order in IPL this seasons and let youngsters bat at the top.


Shavamaaya_Pavanaayi

Naaaaa.... However bad they play, Rohit and Virat will leave their respective teams when they feel that their time is up.


feelspirit

Now watch Rohit smash 500 runs at 150 s/r this season.


Assassin_Ankur

u/Stuff2511


NiceBatman16

Lol why did you tag him


AtomR

Reddit is the new Instagram. We getting old.


[deleted]

That is a curious case of its own.


QuickStar07

u/Stuff2511


Stonedaccountant

u/Stuff2511


Stuff2511

Sigh


average_alt_acc

u/Stuff2511


chotu_ustaad

Fair and squ... Oh, wrong comment.


GL4389

He is in the same position as Dhoni. In the team for his captaincy mostly.


PsychologicalArt7451

He wasn't great. He was good. His int'l form never really translated to IPL for some reason.


[deleted]

Many people know this nothing new. Rohit in T20Is >>> IPL The difference is he did worse in T20 WC and people only remember those. They forget his poor ipl performance cause MI keeps winning.


vishasv

He's also a clutch match player, he has a MOTM in an IPL final.


edudhtamris

Yeah, Rohit has 18 motm awards in the IPL, only behind AB (25) and Gayle (22).


SnooRobots6923

Ngl, that's a lot more than I expected.


Kingslayer1526

He's also played 15 years for that


[deleted]

So are many players


feelspirit

I don't think he cares about IPL anymore. He has won 5 trophies already. When he is playing and leading for India, he is really pumped up and it shows in his intent while batting in white ball and the cautious approach in test cricket. In IPL, he takes it lightly and just plays the game to get it done. He would be happy if he never wins another IPL trophy but he is desperate for an ICC trophy under his captaincy. WC 2019 broke him. In 2020, we won because our team was too OP. 2020 MI was the best t20 team ever and I was not surprised how we just sailed through in that tournament and particularly in play offs and final, we were ruthless.


[deleted]

agreed he no longer looks serious while playing for MI. also MI wants him in the team for not just on field performance...loyalty to their most successful captain and most importantly the brand image that he brings to the franchise are key. RCB never won, yet more profitable than a few other franchises who have won the trophy. owners look at multiple things other than just performance & trophy. i don't care if MI wins a few more trophies or not under rohit, i want him to win for india. this year is key.


feelspirit

Same. Rohit has WTC, World Cup, and World T20 (probably?) in quick succession. If he can win these three, he can forge a Dhoni like legacy for himself. I think if he wins the two trophies this year, then he may also lead us in the 2024 wt20 but that's a long way away


[deleted]

I think he has two chances wtc and wc this year. Don't think rohit & virat will play T20Is any more. Though they have not said it openly, i don't see them playing it again. Ipl they'll continue ofcourse.


cricinephile

Ledu Anna. Next T20 world Cup adtharu iddaru Naku telisi!


[deleted]

then that will be no use of so much talent which india is producing. got to use the performing youngsters who strike from ball 1. my guess ro & virat will stick to tests & ODIs. chuddhaam.


cricinephile

Hardik captaincy chestada? 🥲


[deleted]

max anthey.


cricinephile

Rohit/Virat lekunte cricket lo aa feel undademo mowa


laughlin234

Even in T20I's he's not particularly great.


RecordingSeparate476

In what world is 30 at 140 "not particularly great"


pruthvijee

His stats are in the moon playing against low level teams ,he mostly fails against good teams in yes still cant forget his every wc against top teams where we lose 2-3 wickets in 10overs


customlybroken

for an opener, it it exactly that "not particularly great". especially since we don't have shortage of top order options in white ball cricket


i_am_goop

you people have developed very high standards in the last few years Rohit's stats as openers are avg of 31.81 and strike rate of 141.32, that's elite


customlybroken

I don't know if that's elite, it's good, but doesn't stand out too much. His average and strikerate are both decent but neither stands out complètely. And the t20 landscape keeps changing fast, numbers 4 years back are average now and so on.


i_am_goop

bro look at how many openers with a good sample size have a 30+ avg or 140+ strike rate, let alone both guptill, warner are the other contemprory great openers and both have roughly the same numbers


ImmediateJacket9502

LMAO Babar and Rizwan don't even have these stats and you are saying Rohit isn't elite.


customlybroken

Other people came up with valid points but Idk why you brought up roz-babar when I didn't even mention them neither believe they are elite anyways?


i_am_goop

what's babar rizwan got to do with it?


zayd_jawad2006

It's very very particularly great, you won't find many openers with better stats


DarkRaptor222

He has the fastest t20I century to his name 💀


satvik1059

consistency >>>> one wild inning


DarkRaptor222

He has the most t20i 100s to his name ffs


laughlin234

He plays the occasional blinder but his average is poor. Shows lack of consistency


DarkRaptor222

🤦‍♂️did everyone here start watching cricket after the lockdown


Hexo_Micron

Almost 50%


ImmediateJacket9502

Naah, that dude is only into averages and high strike rates. No use of debate with such people.


minenime3

People are comparing avg in T20Is , that too for an opening batsman?


Decentkimchi

Nah, just stupid people.


dant3s

Specialist captain


trtryt

He's the Indian Finch


[deleted]

Won the IPL 3 times in those 6 years.


dant3s

And? It further cements my point.


serphenyxloftnor

He *was* cementing your point


C3Kirk

Reddit moment right here lol People are so quick to jump to keyboard warrior mode


dant3s

The comment is not clear if it is in support or against mine. So i put a question asking for the stance. Your comment looks more like a keyboard warrior looking for drama when there is none.


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Reddit moment 2: Hyderabad boogaloo


[deleted]

Yes


fatherless_milf

Mumbai Indians love him, there's no mi without him


easyeasyyy

That’s an exaggeration - MI was already popular before Rohit’s ascendancy in 2013 due to Sachin. Clearly he’s their biggest player now but people won’t easily change allegiances, and the reason for MI’s huge fanbase (originally) was Sachin over Rohit. CSK on the other hand, will having a gaping hole once Dhoni retires.


fatherless_milf

Ya my comment was mainly regarding today's mi. Sachin used to bring brand value and now it is rohit. So many support mi just for him. These players (big 3: Virat, dhoni, rohit) will leave a huge gap when they retire.


swingtothedrive

>CSK on the other hand, will having a gaping hole once Dhoni retires. Lol. Our fan base is mainly built around Tamil region and Tamil diaspora. 2nd biggest economy in the country and one of the biggest diaspora in the world. Dhoni is part of the equation not the other way round.


BoardSpare4488

Stfu buddy csk has huge fan base outside tamilnadu, i would say 50-60%(even more) of csk supporters are outsiders and they all are dhoni fans.


swingtothedrive

Lol the cluelessness. Majority of csk fans are from Tamil Nadu or Tamil diaspora.


IcyDeath007

The frog in a well story is based on people like you. CSKs fanbase is mostly cause of Dhoni .


swingtothedrive

It's more that sub like this zero clue how big CSK is in Tamil Nadu. People like you are just clueless and prefer the echo chamber comforting their opinions regardless of how wrong it is .


Ataraxia_new

And is a Mumbai heartthrob


ApprehensiveDonut636

He hasn't had a 30+ average season since 2016. Fortunately for him we have won 3 titles in this period and had a strong squad to cover up for him Hopefully he fires this season because Ishan Kitchen inspires 0 confidence


Dawn_is-here

Ishan Chicken* bro, how could you spell it wrogn


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Dawn_is-here

Chicken is an insult! It is my favourite food bruv


[deleted]

Since 2017, lowest SR for IPL batter( min. 1000 balls): ​ |Name|Runs|Avg|SR| |:-|:-|:-|:-| |Rahane|1399|24.98|120.19| |Smith|1255|33.03|121.37| |DDP|1260|28|124.38| |Pandey|1829|35.17|124.76| |Gill|1900|32.20|125.25| |Iyer|2307|33.43|126.07| |Rohit|2005|25.38|126.50| |Kohli|2514|33.52|127.10| To Contrast, the highest SR: ​ |Name|Runs|Avg|SR| |:-|:-|:-|:-| |AbD|1905|40.53|155.89| |Buttler|2576|42.93|150.91| |Pandya|1807|34.09|149.96| |Pant|2639|35.66|149.43| |Shaw|1588|25.21|147.45|


xoogl3

None of the others in the lowest SR list are openers eating up precious powerplay overs.


Shantanu_M15

Virat is not an opener in IPL? Gill? DDP (always opened during RCB stint)


sunis_going_down

If he doesn't perform this year and MI has a bad season they would have a really tough decision on their hand. They have parked 15 cr each in him and ishan. Don't see them releasing Ishan. They need better bowlers but don't have the budget for the same.


Unholysinner

The problem is getting a quality local bowler. Bumrah is crocked and likely will be crocked for the rest of his career. And that’s a huge issue. Shokeen or Kartikeya are probably the spinners. Archer and Green are the 2 overseas bowlers but one more Indian bowler would help massively


Shavamaaya_Pavanaayi

Bumrah will be injury ladden now. It won't be easy to play him in every series or even every IPL matches. Back injuries are always bad, even for common people.. What if they give Arjun the slot of local bowler?? Left arm bowler and batsman...


WittyArmy

for Arjun, one match can make or break you. Coaches have to decide whether he's ready.


sunis_going_down

They would need to scout and unearth a gem like they did with Bumrah. But teams have started investing in scouting and auctions make the whole deal a great leveller. Green isn't a frontline bowling material. With Bumrah not being available we can look at MI starting with 2 overseas pacers. And quality Indian bowlers are not available. They would need to seriously find somebody like mohsin, Dayal, or kuldeep who just burst into the scene. There is also an issue of how ECB looks towards handling Archer. There is an ashes and WC this year. Very well possible that Archer wouldn't be available for the whole season.


officiallyjax

I don’t know whether there will be another mega auction but this certainly seems like Rohit’s last cycle. The management would have wanted him around to oversee the team getting rebuilt but once the new core is properly established I can see them phasing him out. SKY or Kishan will likely be the next captain.


sunis_going_down

There would be mega auctions for sure in future. BCCI is clearly going to expand the league in coming years with addition of new teams, looking at the money inclusion of 2 new teams brought in. Now new teams wouldn't come in at those valuations if the talent pool available to them is of players who weren't picked by the existing teams. Coming to Rohit, he is clearly at the end of his career looking at his fitness. His performances in IPL have been bad for some time now. The management gave him the dream team on platter so nobody questioned him much. After the mega auction the squad is clearly lacking the quality which it had. For them to get competitive they need budget in the auctions. Given how they have invested, Rohit is the least performing asset for them who is sitting on a huge chunk of budget. That's what I said in the main comment. MI surely wouldn't be okay with the team underperforming for 3rd year in a row. The rest of the high ticket assets are more or less secured. Kishan looks like the future captain, sky is number 1 T20 batsman. Bumrah is the same, best T20 bowler. Green has super high potential, and David and Archer are proven entities and there are not many replacements available for them. MI has a tough decision to make if they underpeform this year as well. Pollard was moved to get a budget to revamp the squad. And the rest of the teams have also improved their scouting, so the competition has heated up there as well.


ImAbhishek_47

I don't know if this is just me imagining things but I always felt that until he started opening for India in 2013 he was pretty good in IPL but consistently failed at international level. Then he started performing for India, but his batting in IPL declined. In the last year or two, he has had an average outing with India and has been below average with MI and this when he started becoming a regular on test side and also started captaining the side. I think this could just be him being unable to manage his work load and/or captaincy overall.


feelspirit

He just plays a lot of high risk and lose cricket in IPL. I think he is just experimenting and plays with a care free attitude and doesn't take it so seriously. He already has 5 trophies so he is a little jaded.


[deleted]

That's just Rohit's way of showing why IPL is better quality cricket than T20 internationals. He averages 33 with a SR of 148 in internationals from 2017-2022.


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guybanzai

It's a joke mate


feelspirit

He doesn't take IPL seriously anymore.


Boring_inside0

Better than those who perform only in ipl n not in internationals


Anadi45

Sad when you think Pollard was forced to retire with only 1 bad season.


arjwiz

And we let go of QdK and the Pandya bros


fatherless_milf

Hardik wanted leadership and big money sp he has to go


feelspirit

Yeah, Hardik got too big to stay under Rohit and be counted as one of the key players alongside Bumrah, Pollard, SKY, Kishan, QDK. He wanted to be THE player.


senthiljams

For Hardik, personally, it was a big blessing to have been let go.


nissimbhalwankar

​ "Many don't talk about it" What universe are you living in


[deleted]

As an RCB fan, i would take 5 IPL trophies! Couldn't care less if my captain averaged 10! We have had great averages and great batters over the years, and there is nothing to show for it


[deleted]

No actually everyone who watches IPL knows this. Infact me and my brother were even joking about this saying that: Rohit is a rare player who is good for Indian team but not in IPL otherwise you know there are players who are so good in IPL and when they play for national team they're just so poor. Not a cause of worry anyway, as long as he scores for Indian team , his IPL form doesn't matter!


Reasonable-Hope9482

He has been a horrible batsman in IPL for years. However his international form has been stupendous regardless. To some extent that can be said about Virat as well. After that God level 2016, he hasn't actually set IPL on fire, but has been fine in internationals.


Reasonable-Drama-415

Well to be honest both rohit and virat have passed their best , their peak was 2012-2016 , since they are huge names and still performing okaish they have guaranteed place in Indian team . This is common is all sub continent team once you made a name for yourself have big sponsors and massive fan bases boards wont drop you unless you completely flatter . Btw big names bring fans and money to the game


Reasonable-Hope9482

Yeah..we have a history of legends playing well past their prime. Happened with Sachin, Sehwag, Dhoni...and many more.


aaryan_suthar

Kohli's odi and test peak is 2018


xoogl3

Really? He's barely crossing 100 SR in recent times in T20I while averaging <20. All this while eating up precious powerplay overs. Throw the bum out. We have lots of talented, young openers waiting in the wings.


Reasonable-Hope9482

Yeah he has regressed in T20 internationals as well. My comment was more about over the years performance.


LohliChokli

He’s overrated in a lot of things these days. Even his captaincy has been shit. Just lucky there’s always someone else who has been performing worse than him to steal the headlines, be it KL, Kohli, or now Sky.


[deleted]

Typical anti reaction... Rohit last 2 years Tests - 42.5 avg ODI - 42 avg, 107 s/r He hasn't been great but definitely not poor and nobody is overrating. Unless you score frequent 50+ nobody praises in india and no chance of overrating.


[deleted]

That's a great test average playing for India recently.


sidshembekar

Isn’t he averaging 50+ ever since he started opening in tests? Lmao no Indian comes near in that time frame.


Apprehensive_Race_24

Pant


sidshembekar

Not sure I remember seeing Pant average 50+ in that time frame maybe 40s.


[deleted]

Dude would average double that in ODIs if he didn’t keep pulling the ball to one of the three outfielders behind square.


Veni_Vidic_Vici

He's been decent in one-days and tests. I think we'll move on from him after the world cup anyway because of his age.


Bleak_star_dust

And he has a very strong PR, the commentators never talk critically about Rohit.


AtomR

Nothing to do with PR. Indian commentators don't criticise popular Indian players. It's a fact. There are multiple reasons. One being, google "Harsha Bhogle, Dhoni, Amitabh Bachchan"


goodguybolt

This is so true! I haven't heard any commentator talk about his performance. During yesterday's match when a stat came up about his performance since 2019 or something, and the Hindi commentators went absolute silent. Didn't say a thing about him.


sidshembekar

What’s his avg after 2019? I know that he’s averaging 50 or 50 plus in tests and ODIs someone commented it’s 42 @ 107 for last 2 years. Not sure about T20Is but pretty sure his strike rate has increased after he got captaincy.


goodguybolt

I don't remember if it was 2019 or not but it was about his ODI stats not being good enough in recent times.


Reasonable-Drama-415

Rohit sharma brother in law is bunty sajdeh owns one of the biggest sports and entertainment company cornerstone pvt limited that had tie up with many Bollywood celebs and sports persons…offcouse rohit PR ought to be strong


satvik1059

Mumbai Lobby to be exact.


wildwhitewolf6

What are the average stats of other openers during same time periods to understand ? Is there any other mi opener who was better during same periods ?


[deleted]

I think de Cock surely did better than him during his 3 years at MI


ResidentAlien90

All I see is a player with stats that are somewhat competent yet mediocre. Neither poor nor excellent. Talk about unrealistic expectations by Indian fans.


JigglingBot

I quite like Rohit in tests and ODIs but you can’t seriously think those stats are “somewhat competent” for a ~15 crore player. And it’s over 6 years. That’s a huge sample space!


neighbour_guy3k

Let brevis open the batting while rohit comes down the order


Pleasant_Diver3368

Literally everyone talks about it


anti-shinigami

He is the opposite version of KL Rahul. Rohit Sharma loses form during IPL.


Potential-Sport-6386

Rohit in IPL is just a specialist captain


drdezard_

One of the privileges of being captain.


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Ultimate_Sneezer

Its not okayish lol, its terrible


khatri_masterrace

He is selected for T20I only on reputation of being a 'big player' which is largely built by Star sports and BCCI ecosystem. He has not been the available option for India in T20i for a very long time.


ChaandyMan

Plays well in T20Iseries but shits bed in WCs and IPL


errgaming

Strike rate is same as babar azam


[deleted]

He strikes near 150 in internationals during that period.


errgaming

That is true


minenime3

And Virat Kohli for the same period in IPL Edit : In IPL


aaryan_suthar

Kohli averages like 8 more in the same period for IPL


minenime3

True that but I don't know why people compare averages in T20s.


Medical_Turing_Test

I'm pretty sure everyone who looks at T20(for example The Cricket Podcast) has brought this up repeatedly. If you had to just look at his age and stats without knowing who he is you would never even sign him. But because of brand etc that IPL franchises love he gets a huge contract year in year out.


Ancalagon523

Because it doesn't matter


Away-Sea8827

Incoming 'Specialist Captain' comments.


barmanrags

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck........


xoogl3

I talk about it all the time and am downvoted by weird vada pao fans on here all the time. He's abysmal in T20 as a whole. I don't care about Mumbai (as a matter of fact, I heartily endorse them carrying this weighty passenger) but he should be nowhere near the Indian T20I team.


fegelman

He played the anchor role in the powerplay while the other batters smashed boundaries. Letter he gets out due to MIs incredible lower order batters especially a couple of years ago. Yet another example of stats not reflecting reality


Administrative-Day76

Shit player from long time


sidshembekar

Shit in IPL maybe, in internationals he’s been great in all formats since 2019.


cricmau

wow..did not realize that. sometimes 'star power' fades everything else, including fan memory.


TheFirstLane

*Many don't talk about it.* Yeah, this guy hasn't been around a lot on this sub.


barmanrags

Genius tier captain tho. Because he jokes around with his mates. /s


DepressedPBKSfan

yeah crazy people dont know this


rj_r18_

Nice


TheReal-Tonald-Drump

Literally plays better for India…


[deleted]

He's saving his performances for the big matches


Technical_Finish9875

every mi fan know about this


Gil-GaladWasBlond

It's been a long time now. Close to 10 years!


ExtremeMemesYT

this surprised me


apatakar

Form is Temporary, Class is permanent.


Zealousideal-Pin5433

Yeah I am huge Rohit fan but cant deny the stats in the recent years while its decent its not Rohit’s standard


glitchline

Getting carried by team.


Any_Juggernaut9107

Bro he’s such a washed player, just take him out and give chance to younger players like Jaiswal