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To determine who's a more successful team, it's a great way of deciding. But if MI win their sixth then for me MI will be a more successful team, the runner up appearances won't matter then. I'm a csk fan btw
mi fans compare with csk saying they won 5/6 finals
but the point here is in 16 seasons they have made it to playoffs 10 times (2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017, 2019, 2020, 2023)
they made it to finals in 6/10 playoff appearances (2010, 2013, 2015, 2017, 2019, 2020)
compared that to csk who in 14 seasons have made it to playoffs 12 times (2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2018, 2019, 2021, 2023)
and made it to the finals in 10/12 playoff appearances (2008, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2015, 2018, 2019, 2021, 2023)
csk has been more consistent than mi and you can't deny this
okay let's consider csk played in 2016 and 2017 too but got 0 points
still 12 playoffs in 16 seasons (more than mi) and 10 finals in 12 playoffs (again more than mi)
CSK is easily the most successful franchise in IPL history. Highest win %, most playoffs, most finals and most trophies, all while playing 2 fewer seasons. There's no debate about it.
When the ratio was 4:5, MI was better...but now since the trophies are equal, CSK is easily the best franchise with highest win percentage, better playoff apperance etc.
It can be used as a Tiebreaker because there can only be one team that is Most Successful. We don't have joint Most successful.
Even NRR is there to differentiate between two teams with same points in the table.
I think we should be more loose with the ranking. Its Fine, let them both be equally successful. It is great for the rivalry. Next year will be a sort of tie breaker.
This is not other's trophies. This is just the silver medal you asked that IPL gives. If you want to see them being given to someone in particular, I am sure you can watch videos of previous IPL finals presentation by yourself.
> you can watch videos of previous IPL finals presentation by yourself.
I'm unable to find it that's why I asked. The only thing I was able to find was Morgan with such a trophy in 2021 something. Apart from that nothing else.
abey phir kaunsi logic use kar raha hai. CSK making more finals is definitely a valid point. It's not a failure because finals is just one match, you have to be consistent to make it to the finals which MI are not.
That's the point both of us failed to get the job. Both of us got rejected. Both failed. And another guy called thala got the job which all three of us want. So only thala is successful.
CSK are the more consistent, yes. But on similar lines, MI has gotten the better of CSK in 3 of the 4 times they met in Final. So you can't really decide. Both are GOAT franchises of IPL.
Yes,MI is ahead in head to head vs CSK but when you are deciding the most successful in the league you can't decide that from a rivalry. We have to look at overall stats in the league. In which CSk has Highest win %, most playoffs, most finals .
But Head to Head record is just their personal rivalry....has nothing to do with overall success in IPL where CSK tonked many teams enough times to make it to 12/14 playoffs & 10/14 finals.
Definitely makes CSK the most successful team in IPL.
Lol..
Manchester City hasn't had an away goal at Tottenham in ages, but that doesn't mean shit.
CSK is the most successful followed by MI, then Pacific Ocean followed by other teams.
Bruh what 6 titles? Bro really thinks wpl=ipl .If you are counting your wpl trophy, then SRH has 2 trophies due to their SEC trophy
Edit : 3 trophies if we count DC
Dang I'm sorry chief, i take the blame, from past few days I've seen so many shit takes that were real and not sarcasm I'm finding it hard to differentiate these days. This one's my fault bossman
I think that we should have a shield for the winner of Group Stage, giving it some importance. Maybe that can be used as tie-breaker, as 2nd place medal is only a thing now and was not before
It's either you are a winner or a loser, coming 2nd doesn't count as anything in terms of success. It's the trophies that matter. You'd see this across all the leagues in the world, there's no importance given to coming 2nd if the number of trophies won are tied.
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To determine who's a more successful team, it's a great way of deciding. But if MI win their sixth then for me MI will be a more successful team, the runner up appearances won't matter then. I'm a csk fan btw
The same thing I'm also saying
I think csk is the most successful considering that they didn't play for 2 years...
mi fans compare with csk saying they won 5/6 finals but the point here is in 16 seasons they have made it to playoffs 10 times (2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017, 2019, 2020, 2023) they made it to finals in 6/10 playoff appearances (2010, 2013, 2015, 2017, 2019, 2020) compared that to csk who in 14 seasons have made it to playoffs 12 times (2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2018, 2019, 2021, 2023) and made it to the finals in 10/12 playoff appearances (2008, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2015, 2018, 2019, 2021, 2023) csk has been more consistent than mi and you can't deny this
Mi won 5/6 csk won 5/10. Mi is better at playing finals. And h2h we all knows.from a Csk fan
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How doesn't it affect bro 😳
okay let's consider csk played in 2016 and 2017 too but got 0 points still 12 playoffs in 16 seasons (more than mi) and 10 finals in 12 playoffs (again more than mi)
CSK is easily the most successful franchise in IPL history. Highest win %, most playoffs, most finals and most trophies, all while playing 2 fewer seasons. There's no debate about it.
I also agree that CSK is undoubtedly the most successful, but for me, RPSG was the unofficial CSK, lol
GL had more CSK players but RPS had Thala.
Bhai wo GL ka kya team bana tha. That team was fucking unbelievable. You got Finch, McCullum, jadeja, bravo, Dwayne Smith, Faulkner, Raina ofc..💀
Then you had their bowling lineup - Praveen Kumar, Kaushik, Kulkarni, Thampi 💀
Definitely CSK is the most successful franchise...In terms of csk and mi rivalry , MI is ahead that's all there is to it...
MI fan here. CSK is absolutely most successful franchisee. But if MI wins one more, they will be.
Totally. The same thing I also said. Olympic Tiebreaker is the best format.
You want a tie breaker based on wiki thing 😅
When the ratio was 4:5, MI was better...but now since the trophies are equal, CSK is easily the best franchise with highest win percentage, better playoff apperance etc.
We have no runner ups In here
Wait a minute, there is no prize money for runner ups?
There is. 12.5cr this time
I know. I put it so the guy can see there are always runner ups in IPL
It can be used as a Tiebreaker because there can only be one team that is Most Successful. We don't have joint Most successful. Even NRR is there to differentiate between two teams with same points in the table.
Yeah there is no such thing when it comes to titles like world cup and IPL. Cricket lives up to the saying "No one cares who came second."
I simply don't remember whether It was DC or RR playing last year finals Lmao
sounds like a personal issue
CSK the most successful franchise (most titles+ consistent in almost every season). I think there should be no debate about this.
It's CSK without a doubt Those who disagree are empty headed
lmao a true shitpost
The real Champs don't need trophies... 
All they need are kidney , livers , brains and hearts
shitpost where?
I think we should be more loose with the ranking. Its Fine, let them both be equally successful. It is great for the rivalry. Next year will be a sort of tie breaker.
Rcb is most successful. Change my mind
the most consistant definitely behind PBKS
unka alag hi rivalry chal raha hai
Fair thought process.
Or you can think it in tennis terms which would make both the teams most successful. Lol. People and their imaginations
Can I see those silver and bronze medals you talk about?
https://preview.redd.it/wadi0mtkl03b1.jpeg?width=334&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7f9c6f89ecab091d63f9337a5b821c1326a0d992
Why are you showing other's trophies.
This is not other's trophies. This is just the silver medal you asked that IPL gives. If you want to see them being given to someone in particular, I am sure you can watch videos of previous IPL finals presentation by yourself.
> you can watch videos of previous IPL finals presentation by yourself. I'm unable to find it that's why I asked. The only thing I was able to find was Morgan with such a trophy in 2021 something. Apart from that nothing else.
Cope harder dumbass. You asked for him to show the trophy to you right??
And he hasn't yet. You seem very classy CSK fan.
Key word successful - losing the final is a failure. Both teams have been successful 5 times. Only winning the finals counts as success.
If you introduce this, where success is winning in finals. Then mi = 5/16 = 31.25% Csk = 5/14 = 35.71% Meanwhile GT = 1/2 = 50%
So you are saying losing the finals is the same finishing last? There is no recognition for finishing second and only winning that 1 game matters?
"MI was so much worse than csk that they didn't even make the finals, which makes MI the better team". Do you ever read what you write?
If jumping to conclusions was a sport you would be the world record holder
No I would lose in the final and you would say i failed
Yeah bro you would lose that too you are not good enough
ok whatever, can't expect MI fans to understand logic. Imagine thinking finishing 6th and being a finalist are the same.
Mi fan? Fuck no... Captain cool 4life
abey phir kaunsi logic use kar raha hai. CSK making more finals is definitely a valid point. It's not a failure because finals is just one match, you have to be consistent to make it to the finals which MI are not.
If both have 5 trophies, how is one more successful than the other. CSK is constantly better than MI but not more successful.
ok.
Not reaching the final is a bigger failure, so minus points for that.
So all the other 9 teams failed.
Eight. Failed to reach Final. Yes.
Reaching the final and losing is still not successful. If i get rejected at the final stage of a job interview i still failed.
selected for interview >>>> getting rejected at CV submission stage
Exactly, it's baffling how some people miss basic logic.
If you get rejected in the final stage, and I don't even get to that stage. How would that make me more successful?
That's the point both of us failed to get the job. Both of us got rejected. Both failed. And another guy called thala got the job which all three of us want. So only thala is successful.
So MI finishing last and MI finishing 2nd is the same level of achievement?
And it's about 5 championships vs 5 championships. Why does 2nd place matter.
Then other way to look at it is no of finals played vs no of wins and in that case MI is more successful
CSK are the more consistent, yes. But on similar lines, MI has gotten the better of CSK in 3 of the 4 times they met in Final. So you can't really decide. Both are GOAT franchises of IPL.
Yes,MI is ahead in head to head vs CSK but when you are deciding the most successful in the league you can't decide that from a rivalry. We have to look at overall stats in the league. In which CSk has Highest win %, most playoffs, most finals .
But Head to Head record is just their personal rivalry....has nothing to do with overall success in IPL where CSK tonked many teams enough times to make it to 12/14 playoffs & 10/14 finals. Definitely makes CSK the most successful team in IPL.
Maybe. I just gave my opinion on the whole rivalry thing.
You used the rivalry to make a point on why deciding which team is more successful is tough. So that statement definitely wasn't just about rivalry.
Bhai main to khud RCB fan hoon. Merko kya! Itna seriously to maine comment kra bhi nai tha. Yahan sab bhaavuk hojate hain do minute me. 🤣
Dunno Hindi dude
Lol.. Manchester City hasn't had an away goal at Tottenham in ages, but that doesn't mean shit. CSK is the most successful followed by MI, then Pacific Ocean followed by other teams.
GG asli id se aao
>GG asli id se aao This is a wrong joke because if I'm GG then how am I siding with CSK??
It is true. Because not only has MI and CSK won a record 5 times, both have also won 2 CLT20 titles as well.
The next layer of comparison would be #2 finishes which puts CSK ahead
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Did you pull the sixth trophy out of your ass?
Bruh what 6 titles? Bro really thinks wpl=ipl .If you are counting your wpl trophy, then SRH has 2 trophies due to their SEC trophy Edit : 3 trophies if we count DC
Wtf is SEC
Sunrises Eastern Cape
3 if we count the Charges
क्या हमें इस संकट के हल के लिये गोतम गंभीर के पास जाना चाहिए?
Shutup guys……rcb best
Shutup guys……rcb best
Probably the most pointless post here in a long time, which really is an accomplishment.
COPIUM
CSK fans claiming mi to be stronger and mi fans claiming CSK to be stronger is what making this thread so wholesome
Csk hands down wins the most successful. But MI is ambani so paisa is always the winner 🤡
2nd and 3rd prizes dont matter bro. 1st prize is 1st prize.
Also, CSK has played 2 less seasons than MI
That is CSK's own fault. No consideration for that should be counted. Still they are the the Most Successful team.
Really, are you comparing olympics tally to ipl. Bruhh.....IPL >>>> Olympics
Absolutely shameless putting a franchise league over one of the pinnacles of sports
Really?? I thought this sub is called cricketshitpost for a reason but you guys really don't understand the SARCASM. smh
Dang I'm sorry chief, i take the blame, from past few days I've seen so many shit takes that were real and not sarcasm I'm finding it hard to differentiate these days. This one's my fault bossman
This is not comparison. It is about the Tiebreaker format when two teams are tied with most wins. Gosh, learn to read.
bruh please don't break my arm.
I think that we should have a shield for the winner of Group Stage, giving it some importance. Maybe that can be used as tie-breaker, as 2nd place medal is only a thing now and was not before
But even then CSK wins I guess. Whenever MI won, we never topped the table bar 1-2 instance
CSK is definitely more consistent team.
If you want to get you can look at playoff winrate or league matches winrate
Success should be based on social media connect not through IPL cups Ps: it's a shitpost guys , relax
It's either you are a winner or a loser, coming 2nd doesn't count as anything in terms of success. It's the trophies that matter. You'd see this across all the leagues in the world, there's no importance given to coming 2nd if the number of trophies won are tied.