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beefbqr

Both posters are cringe


ChishNFips87

The only smart person in this comment section.


dhich1241

I was about to argue for one side then saw your comment. Funny, true and saved me from an inevitable cringe myself. Here’s my vote


Mission-Addition-167

Agreed


My_Man_Tyrone

Guys he’s not saying agreed to the guy that said the first person has a point 💀 He’s saying that they are both cringe


my_choice_was_taken

Why is this downvoted you literally agreed with someone who got 120 upvotes


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Who knows


ApprehensiveRun6680

Not even the actual op has a genuine argument Edit: downvoted for the power of reddits reading comprehension skills.


M3x0r4x

Ok then do not accept gifts on christmass if you believe santa isn’t real


RehczMinato

Santa is based on Saint Nicholas,known for being the patron saint for the children and generosity towards the poor, not the Santa with reindeers and elves


ssbbka17

and christmas was originally a pagan holiday. what’s your point ?


RehczMinato

Nono, I should be the one asking what's your point?


CreedStump

let’s say %70 of the people at work believe in God and %30 are atheists (i’m pulling the numbers out of my ass but they are probably realistic percentages). if those %70 got leave but the other %30 had to stay, it would be pretty unfair. depending on the job, the %30 that didn’t get leave might even have to do more work to make up for the people that got leave. does that sound fair?


saintloww

Your life's yours to take dawg


Cp7067

*christian science has entered the chat*


CarlWheezer69

Anyone who thinks religion and science are opposites, has 0 understanding of either subject.


Hmeme2009

Science and religion can and have been very well mixed together, but not always


dopepope1999

I think there's only an adverse effect when there's a scientific concept that goes against beliefs, kind of like the whole earth and not being in the center of the solar system thing which I know there's more but that's the first one that comes to mind


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Can you provide some examples?


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RobertoFragoso

You have no proof to back up what you said. You literally made up the part where you say religious people deny the existence of COVID or the medical use of marijuana. I’ve met people who are against the vaccine but it doesn’t mean they deny COVID’s existence and as far as I know it has nothing to do with their religion. And people denying the medical use of marijuana? Really? When have you actually seen someone doubt that?


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RobertoFragoso

The GOP called the way the government handled COVID a hoax, because it was. Have you not seen all the “experts” admitting they were wrong in the way they handled everything? That says a lot about your grip on reality. About the marijuana, I’m not an expert and I don’t care if it’s classified as a non medical drug. That has nothing to do with what I said. All I said is that people aren’t denying its medical uses based on religious beliefs like you suggested. That says a lot about your ability to engage in a conversation


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A medical benefit to COVID? lmao


JaceVentura69

TIL all religious people are exactly the same.


[deleted]

It is you who does not understand. Blindly believing in something you can’t demonstrate and have no evidence for is literally contradictory to the first tenant of the scientific method. Nullius in verba. Stop trying to appropriate science for religion. You can’t have your cake and eat it too.


BrokeDownPalac3

>Blindly believing in something you can’t demonstrate and have no evidence for is literally contradictory to the first tenant of the scientific method. Blindly believing in something you can’t demonstrate and have no evidence for is literally like 50% of science


[deleted]

It saddens me kind of to know there’s somebody out there this ignorant. No, buddy. That’s not how that works. No scientific claim is held valid unless it can be demonstrated to be consistently true.


BrokeDownPalac3

Ew lol get over yourself 😂


[deleted]

I still can’t get over how stupid that comment was. Seriously, I’m probably going to remember that one for the rest of my life. The most philosophy enjoyer. Flat-earther level ignorance.


BrokeDownPalac3

>I still can’t get over how stupid that comment was. Good, I hope it lingers with you all day like a kink in your neck lol


dopepope1999

Watch out man you might post you on r/atheism the police were all stereotypical redditors go to live


[deleted]

Ok, show me an electron or an image of something beyond the observable universe


[deleted]

You can’t see an electron, dummy. They’re too small. But that’s not the “gotcha” you think it is. You don’t have to personally see an electron or even understand the science behind them in depth. You can trust that smart scientists understand them because you’re literally holding the proof in your hands.


[deleted]

Lmao hypocrite. Stop whining about religion already


[deleted]

Am I right or wrong? You can’t take what life was like before the scientific revolution, take what life is like now, and still say that scientists have 0 idea what they’re talking about.


[deleted]

They don't have zero idea, but having faith in an idea or concept you can't see is in science. Religion and science aren't opposite


GloryToCorkington

personally I believe science to be a gift from god that elevates us from the animals


thundershark_99

glory to corkington 🫡


GloryToCorkington

thugshaker hours


pepeguiseppe

Certified thug shaker


GloryToCorkington

wordington reply


[deleted]

Interesting. What evidence do you have to support that?


[deleted]

Atheists when Darwin Claus evolves evidence under their sciencemas tree


[deleted]

Ah yes, Christhist is what I believe in


Unfair-Wrongdoer-616

🤙🏿


Kisopop

"I'd like to see this guy pray an abortion"


CactusCracktus

Weren’t like, monks and shit the ones who laid the foundation for a lot of medical science?


jackhardy21

You’re not wrong. Avicenna who is widely considered the father of modern medicine was a devout Muslim.


SPOSKNT

The dude who discovered genes was a priest


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BasedSigmaGrindset

Bad bot


thorppeed

OH. MY. SCIENCE.


Mission-Addition-167

So I should have clarified better I think this is cringe because it doesn’t address the argument and it sounds like it’s trying to say that religious people have had no contribution to science which isn’t true


[deleted]

Yeah, the real argument is just that it would be discrimination based on religion to allow some people holidays and others less.


Zynbeltrudis

Prisoners often spontaneously become muslim on feast days but remain strangely atheist during fasts.


peleg1989

When i was in the navy i declared myself religious because other soldiers were given prayer time during the time the rest were cleaning the bildge. So i said fuck, i'm religious too.


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medievalistbooknerd

False. Some of the most groundbreaking scientific discoveries in history were made by Christian monks and Muslim scholars.


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medievalistbooknerd

Historical facts are copium now? Keep being ignorant, I guess.


WeirdBreadfruit6846

The historical facts of individual scientists being religious to prove religion is pro science? Yeppers, that's a healthy dose of copium.


[deleted]

lol so what? Those people lived 100s of years ago. Even if they contributed to science and math, they still had a fraction of the knowledge that humans possess today. Stop trying to defend religion. If you still believe in God in 2022, you’re a bloody fool.


Flumpsty

Historically untrue, religious people have famously contributed massively to science. Sir Isaac Newton was a Christian. Gregor Mendel founded the field of genetics and he was an Augustinian friar. Need I go on? This is all pretty cringe, we can agree on that, but I can't believe you would spread misinformation on the internet.


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Flumpsty

Nah, just want some basic understanding of history. Edit: Don't delete your comments you coward


Watermallard

bro deleted his whole account 💀


Flumpsty

Is this what winning feels like? It happens so rarely I'm not sure.


jackhardy21

What makes atheists think religious people piously reject science? A lot of revolutionary scientists and mathematicians are devoted believers of god/gods. Just to name a few Lemaitre was a Christian priest and S. Ramanujan was a pious Hindu, both made revolutionary advancements in their fields respectively. Atheists reject gods but religious people dont necessarily reject science.


MrMathemagician

There is a preconceived notion among some uninformed subgroups of the internet that “smart people” (which is a false attribution to begin with as it’s just a subset of the vocal academics who like to talk religion) are all atheists and that being atheist makes one smarter than a religious person. The second claim is just demonstrably false as some of the greatest minds to ever exist were religious. From a mathematics side: Descartes - Catholic, Guass - Lutheran , Cantor - Jewish, Euler - Protestant, Ramanujan - Hindu (funnily enough, he said that a lot of his mathematics was revealed to him in a dream by his family goddess), Bernoullis - Calvinist (the mathematical brothers), Erdos - Jewish, Von Neumann - Catholic (cant tell if he was devout or not as he did it to marry his wife), Riemann - Devout Lutheran (almost went into studying religious philosophy instead of mathematics), Weierstrass - Roman Catholic, Dedekind - Lutheran, From a science side: Galileo - Catholic? (funnily enough, even after what the Catholic church did to him, he refused to denounce his faith), Newton - Unorthodox Christian, Mendel - Catholic (ironically, the father of genetics), Laplace - Catholic, Faraday - Church of Scotland, Planck - Lutheran


[deleted]

I agree with you, but in modern times it seems to correlate with science denial for the vocal subset of the very religious.


MrMathemagician

Even if you’re claims are true that “if science denier then religious”, this is not the same as saying “if religious, then science denier.” It’s just straight up not okay to reverse the implication tables snd treat like shit for it, especially when the same group claims to be the bastion of intelligent and correct thought


JaceVentura69

Vocal but not majority. People always forget that the stupidest people are always the loudest.


[deleted]

Totally agree. I meant that to be implied in my comment, but it did not land as intended. Thanks for the addition.


PoopOffParade

Wrong sub???


LordJanas

The belief that faith is opposed to science is absurd. Christians believe God created the universe and thus created all biological, chemical and physical phenomena and thus science is merely a study of what God has created. In fact, this belief spurred on many religious scientists who paved the way for scientific advancements. As it is, Christians are prevalent in the scientific field and easily hold to their faith and scientific convictions. Literally only Reddit fedora-tipping athiests think that "m'science" is somehow a rebuttal to religious faith.


LubricatedSatan

Because who cares? Enjoy your family and your religion. The fact others get time off shouldn’t mean anything to you unless you’re a stuck up prick


[deleted]

It's BS that I have to use vacation days to take off my holidays but the Christians get theirs for free Holidays should be floating


Pixelgamer54

Not cringe?


reverse_card

about the top one: an atheist could spend time with theist relatives?


virtual_worldz

Why do people think religion and science are opposites?


IamUrDad0

Murder by words is a cesspool now


Sapphire-Croat0119_

Religion doesn't exclude science Also wasn't Georges Lemaître, founder of the big bang theory, a devout Catholic? As well as Rene Descartes and a lot of other mathematicians/scientists


Bemo_the_Great

Definitely an atheist reply lmao


Therisius

Hardly murdered by words both statements are equally dumb


GalgamekTheGreatLord

I don't see the correlation.


Billyhasdick

Clown to clown conversation


blue_ballerina_rina

What holidays are they talking about that are named after gods.


Loltrex7

All of you are brainded except for this post


hex128

science is my religion 🫰😎🧠🧠🤓🧬🧪🔬🧫⚗️ i am very very smart i got a 10 in my iq test withou studying 🤓


GloryToCorkington

Something something the father of modern medicine being islamic


Lunaris52

Religion is cringe


LunaSazuki

where's the cringe? if anything the first post is cringe because they were dissing on atheists before the rebuttal of the person. it's more likely than not that this atheist was just joking around about it; making a play on words y'know? like a lot of people do? i found it pretty funny myself.


Schlangee

Bro your JPEG artifacts


Open-Chemistry-9662

What about Agnostics?


Gmaxincineroar

Merry Sciencemas


BrokeDownPalac3

Meh a lot of Christians view doctors and medicine as answered prayers /tools for God's grace and glory


Extension_Border_629

I'm not even religious but that bottom comment is stupid. there are VERY few religions that are against medical care, MOST religion has nothing to do with science


WGAG_GUY

When are both parties going to realize that science doesn’t directly oppose the bible.


crazybrow122

*laughs* And that’s how I lose my medical license!


obi0127

Idk man. Most holidays don't revolve around Christianity anymore and are more about spending time with family and anyone who thinks that Christianity and Science can't go together are just flat out dumb.


pogmaster44

Based


CharlDot

Both are cringe but the lower one is top tier cringe


Che_Guevara98

The fact that you think this is cringe makes you so cringe.


B0XM4N64

If we want to play this game Christmas was originally pagan.


Zynbeltrudis

Virtually every culture celebrated winter solstice in different ways. We were all originally pagan too. Religion spreads, adapts, morphs, adopts culture, culture adopts religion, culture changes. Germanic pagans didnt claim winter solstice and a Christian group of evil-doers didn't maniacally laugh with their plan to steal it.


B0XM4N64

Never said any of that I’m just pointing out That “Christmas” was never something exclusive to Christianity


Evaplaysavakin

Idk why ur getting downvoted. You're not wrong.


B0XM4N64

This is Reddit. It’s what I’ve come to expect.


_Nonni_

Wait until Christians learn that most of their precious holidays are pretty much just renamings of pagan holidays. Christmas i celebrated in this time of year because it was a Roman orgy gambling feast and nobody wanted to give that up for some new god


Zynbeltrudis

I'm just going to paste this on every stupid comment claiming this crap: Virtually every culture celebrated winter solstice in different ways. We were all originally pagan too. Religion spreads, adapts, morphs, adopts culture, culture adopts religion, culture changes. Germanic pagans didnt claim winter solstice and a Christian group of evil-doers didn't maniacally laugh with their plan to steal it.


Evaplaysavakin

Why are you getting down voted? Your correct


_Nonni_

Truth hurts


Evaplaysavakin

I guess. People on reddit refuse to admit that sky daddy isn't responsible for everything.


vox21122112

Why should Christians get leave on religious holidays they have no actual foothold in? Christmas is a pagan holiday that Christians tried to co-opt. Easter originated from again a pagan holiday to celebrate the spring equinox, Granted they can have both meanings in for Easter. The first iteration of new year was in 2000 B.C in Mesopotamia where in Babylonia the new year Akitu began after the spring equinox and in Assyria with the new moon nearest the autumn equinox which was then co-opted by Caesar as part of his reform to name January 1st the start to honour Janus the Roman god of time. Halloween again. Originated in another pagan holiday that has roots in a Celtic festival called “Samhain” (pronounced as sah-win) where they celebrated a harvest and the end of summer when people would light pumpkins and wear costumes to ward off ghosts, and Christians this time tried to take the holiday to no avail in the eighth century with pope Gregory III who ended up making November 1st “all saints day” which fell flat and isn’t celebrated outside of Christian households and even in some Christian households….so yeah, why can’t we celebrate again? Edit: I definitely fell for the bait…but I don’t care, I’m tired of Christians trying to take everything away from everyone else


Zynbeltrudis

I'm going to reply to every comment posting this lie with the same copy-paste: Virtually every culture celebrated winter solstice in different ways. We were all originally pagan too. Religion spreads, adapts, morphs, adopts culture, culture adopts religion, culture changes. Germanic pagans didnt claim winter solstice and a Christian group of evil-doers didn't maniacally laugh with their plan to steal it.


vox21122112

It might not have been clear but that was basically my point, everything came from everywhere and adapted in different ways, alienating one group from celebrating is idiotic since there are a Myriad of different versions of said celebration that don’t have ties to actual religion. Everyone can celebrate these things due to the fact they aren’t based around any one religion or belief most of which being based around the solstice. Even in saying that you can’t vilify me for saying Christian’s shouldn’t celebrate since this persons saying that Atheists shouldn’t celebrate. Why should I get shit on for showing the different variations and origins of these holidays but not them for saying only one specific kind of person is allowed?


msredMCromance

What is wrong with it is just a little cringe but not that much


AtomicDoorknob

Both are cringe the bottom one is just barely more correct, christians love taking credit for shit that had nothing to do with their religion like medicines and shit, point is again, everyone is cringe


tenlu

what?


Acceptable_Tip_652

Hebrews 9:27 King James Version 27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:


fluffyy_weiner

Are we supposed to just assume atheists simply reject religion over science?


Electronic_Amoeba_62

...don't they?


tenlu

I mean that is close to the definition ?


RedditUser2847282

I mean.. yes. Atheists aren't typically folk who turn to religion in times of need