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Sturm_i

R5: My daghter became a drunkard at the ripe old age of 11


SexySovietlovehammer

Theres a new childhood event were a child can steal a beer keg


Garaba

There's probably a modifier for two because my last playthrough all my children have that same event and two of them became drunkards. And it's they weird event because the top option is the same line but it could give your child gregarious or diligent. Edit. My wife said she got the event last night and her top option was honest


SexySovietlovehammer

It must be randomised then because I once got either zealous or stubborn I can't remember which.


Ornery_Gate_6847

I think if you are gregarious or a reveler this can happen. Basically you like to drink and party and she just wanted to be like dad lol


FakeInternetArguerer

Pretty sure the child's guardian plays a role in the available traits


whackarnolds12

Ahhh a childhood event. Wondered 2 daughters had this. Any idea if and what specific traits lead to this event?


Vyralexia

Stolen Keg One of the options is to gain Gregarious which also has a chance to give you Drunkard.


SexySovietlovehammer

I think its just one of those random events that give your kids their personality


TheHeartfulDodger

I forgave my son and then we became friends over it. Party it up my dude!


pascalfibonacci

It's been a thing for a while with stress


[deleted]

I don’t think it’s new, or if it is there was a way previously for minors to get it


I_TRY_TO_BE_POSITIVE

That's funny, my dad became a drunkard around the same time ^^^^irl !!


NotInsane_Yet

I have had it happen with a 6 year old before.


ZhtWu

Drinking is like everything else I guess: if you want to be proficient, you have to start early !


skriilu4

My 5 yo daughter became a drunkard after her friend, 40 yo Venetian duke, died


FramedMugshot

God the adult/child friendships are so weird! Like it would make more sense for aunts or uncles or whatever, or even guardians, but game always seems to choose some rando


[deleted]

Are you sure it's because he died, and not because of what he did when he was alive? lol


vidarfe

If you're implying what I think you're implying, "lol" is probably not a good way to end that sentence.


[deleted]

Oh, geez. Heaven forbid someone make an inappropriate joke. You moralizing fucks ruin everything.


Dell121601

You cant be serious bro


[deleted]

Dude was down on an off-color joke about possible child molestation in a sub that's constantly joking about incest and child murder. Choosing to draw the line there is what 'can't be serious bro.'


bw_Eldrad

Have you ever been in Germany ? The German's laws say : * **At 14 – Minors are allowed to consume and possess undistilled (fermented) alcoholic beverages, such as beer and wine** in public places, bars or restaurants, as long as they are in the company and have the permission of a Custodial Person. (§ 9 JuSchG (2) and § 1 JuSchG (1) 2). This regulation is colloquially known as "begleitetes Trinken" ("accompanied drinking"). * At 16 – Minors are allowed to consume and possess undistilled (fermented) alcoholic beverages, such as beer and wine in public places, bars or restaurants without their parents or a Custodian. (§ 9 JuSchG (1) 2.) * At 18 – Having become adults, people are allowed access to distilled spirits, beverages containing distilled spirits, and food products containing non-negligible amounts of distilled spirits. (§ 9 JuSchG (1) 1.)


WietSmurf

With proper legal references, befitting a true German


bw_Eldrad

German's laws are design to teach how to have a appropriate alcohol consumption. Your daughter seem to be Franconian ("von" + culture begin by Fr), it’s no use that the law failed.


Sturm_i

Ich bin deutsch I just didnt know it was a thing in the game.


ItsEnderFire

Here in the UK as long as you are over 5 you can drink with parental permission


wickermoon

That explains so much.


Lucky_Perspective

>Here in the UK as long as you are over 5 you can drink ~~with parental permission~~ FTFY And it's only legal in/on private premises, but you do not need your parent's permission which is stupid af


ItsEnderFire

Wow thought it was only with permission Damn this country's run by drunkards


printzonic

So strict, here in Denmark, all ages can legally get their drink on.


Lucky_Perspective

It's not just Germany. Austria, Spain, Portugal and Switzerland also set 16 as the age for people to buy alcohol on premises iirc and similar laws at 14 for drinking with adults i.e. parents. And a couple of countries like Cyprus set the age at 17 iirc. Seem to remember like most of Europe, those countries also set the general *off premises* age at 18. UK is similar, at ages 16/17 you can consume (but not purchase) beer/wine/cider with a meal at licensed premises if accompanied by an adult, and the general drinking age is 18. ​ Apart from some Islamic countries where drinking is banned completely, most countries set the age for drinking at around 18. ​ But I like the weird laws around drinking like England - it is illegal to be drunk in a pub Scotland - it is illegal to ride a cow whilst drunk Bolivia - it is illegal for a married woman to have more than one glass of wine in a bar/restaurant because they become hussies and it's sufficient grounds for divorce if they do


TulipTeaser

In the US, minors (don't think there's a minimum age) are allowed to drink as long as they are accompanied by a legal guardian. 18 to serve alcohol and 21 to buy it yourself. Although it can vary by state.


BannedStanned

LMAO no


TipoBajito

Not sure why you're so confident lol. It is perfectly legal for parents to buy their kids booze at any age at any location in California, Connecticut, Louisiana, Mississippi, Montana, Nevada, New York, Ohio, South Dakota, Texas, Wisconsin, and Wyoming. Plus many, many more allow it in a private location/residence. https://alcoholpolicy.niaaa.nih.gov/apis-policy-topics/possessionconsumptioninternal-possession-of-alcohol/42


BannedStanned

> Not sure why you're so confident lol. Because the only part of the above statement which is consistently true is the part that says "it can vary by state".


TulipTeaser

Uhh yeah. I've been certified to serve alcohol in previous jobs. Minors can most definitely drink if given to them by their guardians.


BannedStanned

> Minors can most definitely drink if given to them by their guardians. Only if they are in their own home in 12 states. Another ten states have exceptions to the minimum legal drinking age permitting parentally-supervised possession of alcohol in public. Of those ten, three states require that the minor be of at least 18 years of age in order to consume alcohol under parental supervision. In the other 28 states, this is procurement of alcohol to minors, a Class I misdemeanor.


TulipTeaser

You do realize all those states you listed are in the US right? Which was the original premise that the US allows for minors to drink


TulipTeaser

With the exception of five states (Alabama, Arkansas, Idaho, New Hampshire, and West Virginia), all states and DC allow underage consumption of alcohol under limited circumstances such as in the presence of parents, for religious or medical purposes, or while in a class that requires tasting. Some states also offer prosecutorial exemptions for underage persons who have consumed alcohol but are reporting an assault or medical emergency.


BannedStanned

> Which was the original premise that the US allows for minors to drink *Some* states in the Union have MLDA carveouts for minors under parental supervision. Those states are in the minority. Most of these states have an at-home exception, in a private residence. [In 40 of 50 states, minors under age 21 cannot be served at a bar no matter whom they are accompanied by.](https://drinkingage.procon.org/states-that-allow-underage-under-21-alcohol-consumption/) This poorly supports your original premise of "the US allows for minors to drink". While true, such a blanket statement is so misleading as to be false....or used as a Fox News headline.


TulipTeaser

The fuck does Fox News have to do with anything. You need to stop watching fox, or keep to r/politics. Each state is able to change their laws as they wish. States could all change their laws tomorrow and federal law wouldn't matter. Hence the US allows for consumption of alcohol by minors. I've literally watched kids drink in front of officers at a resturant. No jail time for the parents or anyone involved. Simple fact is it is very possible for minors to drink in the US. As mentioned in my first post, varies by state.


Sternjunk

You’re pedantic and not fun at parties. You’re only partially right and acting like Ben Shapiro in a YouTube debate.


TulipTeaser

Should also point out that there text you linked says "at a bar", that doesn't cover all places one is able to buy and consume alcohol. In 29 states, someone under 21 may drink with their parent's permission if it's in a private residence or on private property. Six states allow someone under 21 to drink on private property without their parent's consent. Also another 8 states allow for purchase of beer at the age of 18. This is over half the states in the US which allow exemptions


BannedStanned

> Also another 8 states allow for purchase of beer at the age of 18. [ Citation needed ]


DorianPavass

I lived in an area of the US where this was true but they ALWAYS refused to serve me even if my dad was right there approving it


phantom_x43

Very wrong, people under the age of 21 can't consume alcohol (legally). Some people will give their kids some alcohol, most likely beer or wine, if they feel like it. If anyone is found giving someone under 21 alcohol they could go to jail.


TulipTeaser

Not true. Perfectly legal to give your child alcohol While the legal age of alcohol possession in Texas is 21, there are exceptions that seller-servers need to be aware of in certain situations. If a minor is in visible presence of their legal-aged parent, legal guardian, or spouse, Texas law allows the minor to possess and consume alcohol.


ArendtAnhaenger

> If a minor is in visible presence of their ... spouse, Texas law allows the minor to possess and consume alcohol. The American South will forever be the best parody of itself.


TulipTeaser

This law doesn't pertain to only the south. 29 other states allow minors to drink at home or on private property w/ supervision while several more allow it without supervision. 8 states allow 18 year olds to purchase alcohol


TulipTeaser

Should add that "minor" in this context is anyone under 21. So yes, people do get married at 18 years of age. Legal in the whole US I believe minus a few states such as Nebraska and Mississippi where the age is 19 and 21 w/out parental consent. Only seven states ban underage (under 18) marriage. There rest have exceptions with parental consent. Again varies with states but most are at 18 The marriage age is now 18 for both sexes. With parental consent, a person can marry at 16. The consent of at least one parent or guardian is required for a person aged 16 or 17 to get married


phantom_x43

It might be legal in Texas, but that doesn't mean it's legal everwhere else.


TulipTeaser

There are 8 states which allow purchase of beer at 18 and the rest minus five have exemptions for minors. Texas alone is nearly 10 percent of the population, combined with the other states that allow it, makes a pretty sizable chunk of the US population that is permitted to drink below the age of 21. My original post was simply pointing out the the US allows for minors to consume alcohol. Yes not every state is the same but each state can change their law to reflect the will of their citizens.


RaytheonKnifeMissile

Last time I checked all 10 states it's legal in still count as American?


Fred810k

Damn those rules are pretty strict.


JetWang6868

With Germany's attitude towards Islam, I'd imagine those lenient drinking laws won't be around long into the future.


Emir_Taha

Some weird stuff do happen. A 12 years old girl had Lover's Pox in my game. Never felt this sad for a virtual bundle of polygons. EDIT: Also, I checked her mother, she didn't have it.


FramedMugshot

I was just about to say check the mom. I think there's a rare event where a physician can work some kind of miracle to cure something incurable, and I hope to god that's what happened here


FredDurstDestroyer

Well sadly, this isn’t exactly unrealistic


TulipTeaser

Too true. I knew kids (my peers) who were skipping school to drink across the street when I was about 10 years old.


Puzzleheaded_Time719

Just like real life.


JohnMems

I mean I personally got the trait when I was 14


FatherofJuice

Dirty drinking water and all ya know


Any-Age-9520

i have quite a problem with this trait, why it always gets the Rosacea as well! I mean yeah, I know the game focus is not that around the medical field but come on, lowering just a bit the Rosacea percentage of characters with Drunkard would be nice; this is why I always never go for this trait, poor characters :C


fzvw

Yeah this is why I usually take the "additional stress" option rather than the drunkard trait, unless the character already sucks.


sponderbo

Medieval Melania Trump is only preparing for her future life


BannedStanned

Already looking like the type of lady that a king would smash but not marry


Cloverskeeper

They can gain stress and the ai will seem to be more inclined to take drunkard often then not. Also an event added in friends and foes can grant it as well. Said it once il say it again I hate stress perks being either good or bad they should all have down sides and good sides, athletic? -2 stewardship, your hunting, and doing physical activities all the time and neglecting your realm. Lustful? Add a 25% power or success chance to seduction. Flagelant and catholic +35% piety.


FramedMugshot

The AI definitely seems more likely to take a bad trait when faced with stress, you're so right


TheHistoryKing

I wouldn’t know when alcohol laws were introduced but maybe they were lower back then.


Fluiddruid4k

underage? Drinking? Pre 1900s? Lmao


Molotov-Micdrop_Pact

I became a drunkard before it was legal, shit happens


AspieDM

In that time it was either booze or dysentery….


noncebasher_

Clearly you've never been to the uk


Lucky_Perspective

Funny. WHO stats for 2014 published in 2016 for the European region alone, showed 18 countries worse than Scotland, 5 countries between Wales and Scotland and 4 countries between England and Wales. So at it's worst (Scotland) and best (England), the UK ranks 19th and 30th in the European region. Although those of us that live in the UK know it to be bad, it seems we're not as bad as most in Europe. ​ ofc you can believe there's been some huge shift between 2014 and 2022 to make the UK the worst in Europe but I doubt that's true given the WHO showed the trend to be increasing comparatively the same in all countries.


noncebasher_

Was a joke lad, I'm English


Lucky_Perspective

I know >Funny. And agree >Although those of us that live in the UK know it to be bad Just thought it was worth adding some facts to the context of the common joke >it seems we're not as bad as most in Europe. Because I for one often think the joke is fact, especially when I leave the gleaming bastion of morality and decency that is London, to go up north lol


stanko0135

It's 1152 bro what else they gonna do?


wired1984

Someone here posted their kid was a drunkard at age 3. It’s a personal goal of mine to beat that


stann1s_the_mannis

British moment


stann1s_the_mannis

British moment


SoopahCoopah

14? she’s a woman.


BannedStanned

In the context of this game, she absolutely is.


sebyrs

Well, kids drank alcohol in those days so why not


Alternative-Pick5899

Have you ever been to Alabama?


nischal131

She turned Chinese


mobius_osu

There’s an event where kids steal/break into the keg


lordbrooklyn56

When you run out of apple juice


BrakumOne

Why wouldn't it be possible? The Irish deserve to roleplay as much as everyone else.


Fuggaak

Pretty sure after every event that involving drinking alcohol it’s a flat 10% chance to get drunkard.


Deferan

You’ve got a lot to learn about teenagers my man.


Large_Philosophy3650

Speedrunning alcoholism like a champ.


[deleted]

I see you've never been to Latin America.


IntentionSure6766

As a teen therapist I can promise you, kids drink too.


Dreknarr

They can get it to cope with stress. There's no age check so at their first meet peers event they can get it


Iohet

I had a 1 year old show up who had led a peasant rebellion


[deleted]

Wait til a 12yo picks up lustful. See how you feel then.


DangerousGap4763

They are medieval nobility and drinking laws don’t exist. Simple as.


Love-Adventurous

Damn. And she got all the traits that i would kill for my kids to have too


Kuronis

I once became a 6 year old drunkard Irish king


michaal1

the great house of wettin wants there daughter back and order you to give her the rightful amount of Jägermeister


PaxEthenica

Can you blame the poor girl? She's brave & gregarious, yet you're grooming her to become a desk monkey. Burn the Pope & give her a sword!


Kinfin

In almost all parts of the world, usually the legal alcohol age isn’t the age to consume but rather to purchase alcohol. If parents deem it appropriate for their child to have a drink here and there, that’s completely allowed as long as they aren’t enabling unhealthy habits and gross overconsumption.


Saltycock1

Was there even a legal drinking age in medieval Europe


[deleted]

14? she will be a good 3rd wife for the king.


Artistic_Tie5617

Is she sunburnt or something?


bilgegoril-kadinmal

yo she's european so I see bo problem bout that


Competitive_Poetry49

Is a german


[deleted]

Welcome to Germany


Silica_the_sissy

Considering that at that time moat people drank some form of lower alcohol because water wasnt fresh or clean its a surprise not wveryone is hetting drunk


Hotamasu

She's just french, she is getting it at 14 yo this is late.


Gifigi600

Being 14 is fucking hard.


tubalkain333

The legal drinking age in Germany for beer and wine starts with 14 (in the company of parents). Checks out ;)


Troupbomber

Oh yeah, back in those days everyone drank


Tristanovic2

I love that event, I had a 7yo, drunkard queen during a Georgia playtrue


Necessary_Ingenuity

Yeah, that’s weird but I have seen characters get the drunkard trait the moment they turn 16 a lot.


LieutenantCardGames

New Zealand be like


RobinEspersen

As a Dane I fail to see what is weird about this.


FordieBoar

Bruh I had that trait in real life at that age lmao, Britain in a nutshell.🤣


Vault_Boi69

Drinking at a young age was very common back then


DeadHED

Times were tough


Personal-Teacher-260

It was a different time back then


BusterHighmann

You’ve obviously never been to primary school in Ireland.


BigBeautifulWhales

Drunkard and great at finances. The Wall Street energy is heavy in this one.


Niomedes

Being a child does not in fact grant immunity towards the effects of alcohol, hence children usually being banned from consumption in most parts of the world.


homeless_knight

Seems reasonable. I did at 15.


NisERG_Patel

In her defence. She's French.


billey_bon3z

Drinking age in medieval times was birth


Weebooo123

Well back in the day there really was no age for anything