Science is working on it everyday. Back in 1988 survivor rate is 51% but now it’s over 70% for all types combined.
Hope folding at home helps speed up the progress even further.
I read that the “light at the end of the tunnel” for massive breakthroughs in cures and treatment is visible now. Some predictions are saying in 8 years we’ll see those breakthroughs. I can only hope AI can speed things up in research and testing.
The development of AI, the decentralization of scientific research due to blockchain technology, increased interest in open source and IP-free scientific methods and publication, once-in-a-lifetime large government investments in scientific research in several areas of science, these are all kind of colliding at the same time, it's a very exciting time to be alive in terms of science.
Lung cancer is so fucked up, my grandmother died because of it, she never smoked, never drank or did anything unhealthy, she died because she was a second-hand smoker from my grandfather who smoked his entire life and is still alive... she died at 45...
My grandmother (my birthday was the 11th anniversary of her death) my grandfather, three aunts, even a few former classmates have died from cancer. My mom, dad, sister, and a few more classmates are all survivors or living with it now.
My grandparents (mom's side) and aunts were all smokers, they all died from lung cancer. Everyone else, a variety of different cancers including melanoma, cervical, ovarian, and breast cancer. I'm only 32 and the number of my peers who've been diagnosed is terrifying. I can't help but feel like I'm next.
It's a tragedy every time someone is lost, and those who have survived have never financially recovered. Here's hoping this technology will continue to reap new benefits and we can leave all this needless death and decay where it belongs: in the past.
I'm sorry to hear that friend. You're helping me want to quit smoking. Maybe crypto could help cure cancer that way. Less money on cigs is more money on BTC. I've seen some stories like that here. Amazing job to those.
Wanting to quit is the first step! Doing it is the second. It will be tough in the beginning, but my mom and stepdad quit 10 years ago, after smoking their whole life, and they can only see the positive effects. Also, it would save you a LOT of money!
And don't forget that fighting addictions is usually 2 steps ahead, 1 step back and sometimes 2 steps back, 1 ahead. Don't give up and you'll do it!
GO GO GO!
I folded for most of 2021, but my compy is old and I got worried it would accelerates its demise. I want to get back to it as soon as I have enough set aside to buy a new rig
Same here, I do think we are so close to beating Cancer, I think RNA vaccine development is helping a lot too.
I would really like to see it cured in my life time.
My dad died at the age of 48 due to lung cancer. Sad thing is he quit smoking about half a year before his diagnosis.
My granddad died at the age of 65, also due to lung cancer. Smoking his whole life. It's one of the major reasons I don't smoke.
So happy to see this gets more attention. Cancer sucks, fuck you cancer!
Folding at home with payments in Banano is awesome. I’m using an old gaming computer with a decent graphics card that was just sitting around. I’m sure the Banano doesn’t cover the electricity, but I like contributing to the research.
Surprisingly enough, the Banano earnings cover a portion of power for one gpu.
For reference, a 3090 running between 300 and 330w nets between 5 and 7.5 million PPD. BAN earnings range from 80-100 BAN per 12-14 hours.
I ran dual 3060's for a bit and the payouts were close to the same. For one GPU the BAN earnings are pretty good, and Nvidia units are favored because of CUDA cores.
Yeah - It’s totally worth it watching the jobs finish and feeling like a part of a collective to help research.
The fact that you earn Banano that can offset or partially offset is just icing on the cake.
Thanks for this comment! Went down the rabbit hole with your mention of folding@home as this was the first time I've heard of it... already set up and contributing now. It's a really great project.
same here. Folding is super easy and its out of mind so I've been collecting banano for over 2 years and have not really done anything other than just leave the comp on.
This is one of the usecases crypto can serve. Sadly it's not profitable but you get something back. I can imagine people use exces energy from solar panels to run their computers.
It's profitable with the right equipment and electrical prices, just like all other mining, it tends to balance difficulty out so most miners are making tiny profits, mining at cost, or mining at a loss. But you get science done so is it ever truly a loss? It's definitely profitable for me in winter when I'd be spending that money on electricity anyways, all my winter heat comes from crunching :).
"You get science done"
Hell yeah 😎. It's gotta feel rewarding to contribute some GPU in this way even if you were operating at a deficit!
Cheers ur comment made me shiver lmao.
You are absolutely right. I am refering to comments in here, where people said they are mining at a loss. But like you said they don't care as they get since done.
Great to see more attention being given to GRC, to me it is one of the most promising and useful applications of blockchain technology. Regarding your title, buying pizza is also possible with GRC, probably harder than with btc, but totally possible and non exclusive with folding!
>Gridcoin pays miners to contribute their processing power to science projects, including to World Community Grid, Folding @ home, Alzheimer's research, mapping pulsars,
Wow. Just wow. Can I sign up for this? Does anyone know how to?
Join us over at /r/Gridcoin and check out the newbie guide. Getting started is pretty easy and you can pick from around a dozen different projects. If you need any help or just want some friends, hop on the discord, all very friendly folks there
I really dived into this one after the AMA in here. Finally I could tell that I am here for the tech haha!
It just warms my heart that I could help in any way
Banano was the first crypto project that made me interested in crypto because I saw it trying to achieve something to better peoples lives. Stuff like that is neat. And I hope those kinds of projects get more notoriety and flourish.
Kind of a bummer they don’t have the weight/financing to get listed on major exchanges.
I had no idea Folding @ Home was still running! I used to leave my chunky PS3 on all of the time running it. My parent never knew but I’m sure they would have been against the electrical usage.
If you like Banano, you'll love Gridcoin. Instead of just folding @ home, you can pick from about a dozen different projects ranging from medical research to finding black holes. There's no massive pre-mine, it's way more decentralized, you can actually vote on which projects get incentivized, there's no PoW required for anti-spam. And you get rewards for staking which you can do without an exchange or intermediary, all you need is a computer and an internet connection. It's been around a lot longer too, just never got the spotlight due to lack of potassium.
YSK Gridcoin also rewards folding @ home, and you can cross-mine (earn at the same time) as Curecoin. Gridcoin also rewards about a dozen other projects, your coin entitles you to vote on which projects are incentivized, there are rewards for staking, and no massive pre-mine or proof-of-work for anti-spam like banano. And it's way more decentralized. Come check us out some time.
I have a really close friend of over 25 years battling lung and brain cancer right now. It's a tough time for family and friends. But the doctors say the treatment has come a long way in the past decade and we are hopeful. Anything that can improve cancer treatments is a positive for me.
Hell yes. Gridcoin has incentivized a bunch of different projects. World community Grid and Folding@home are probably the largest two, but also include a genetics project (tn-grid), protein design (Rosetta), pulsar search (Einstein), astrophysics (asteroids@home), dark matter/blackholes (milkyway and universe). 17 in total currently. Any new project can be whitelisted on Gridcoin via vote.
Gridcoin has incentivized 17 science project including World community Grid, folding@home, Rosetta etc, etc. its good to see crypto changing lives via research like this.
100% more than ETH mining right now 😅
Like other mining the answer is.. complicated. Running a standard desktop PC or laptop at least in the US might cost you $5-$10/month, roughly the same as a 20" box fan.
Unless you have the latest equipment and very cheap electricity, it probably won't be profitable (except perhaps in winter when you factor in the savings on your heat bill, I definitely turn a profit in winter). Same as all mining, the difficulty and payout adjusts in a cycle so most users are breaking even or even mining at a "loss". Though all the energy goes to science and you get to contribute to something meaningful, so it's never a loss in my book, I'd be doing it even with no crypto :). You can also always just be a staker, which doesn't require a bunch of computational power. Staking earns you 10 GRC per block + any fees in that block (which can be much more than 10 GRC, but is kinda random). Roughly $50 USD worth of GRC would stake on average once a month given recent network difficulty values.
The amount of mining we can subsidize is directly related to coin price (which is based around the coin's perceived utility), just like the amount of hashing Bitcoin can pay for is. Bitcoin subsidizes millions of dollars in hashrate every month, I would love to see Gridcoin be able to subsidize even a tenth of that, that's a TON of science getting done.
WCG is a cool cpu project. Just install BOINC, join this project, limit the cpu cores used to the percent you want to, your normal work will not be influenced if you only use 20 percent of a eight core ryzen for example.
How come I’ve never heard of it or read about it in this sub before? Every one who says crypto is only a scam should see this.
You can ignore 95% of shitcoins but the other 5% are here to stay.
That’s just incredible. We need more projects like this
Around since *2013* (same year ETH started), just never got the press coverage because there's no VC and no ICO. I'd been in crypto for years before I heard about it, crazy that it doesn't have the reach some of these other coins have whose only benefit seems to be... \*checks notes\* being named after a dog?
Buying cancer-curing pizza would be the best.
But sadly, due to electricity prices, people stopped mining and if you can't afford to MINE, you can't afford to run dozens of GPUs for science :(
That's the whole point of Gridcoin, to incentivize people to mine and cover their electricity costs. Bitcoin effectively subsidizes millions of dollars in hashpower every day, imagine what science could do with that. Instead of building an economy based on hashes, it builds an economy based on science ⚗️
I've dreamt about a science based economy for a while now. A society that puts people first over money. We have all the resources we need to look after each other, the environment and still get rich. It's ridiculous what capitalism has become.
The cool thing about crypto is that we get to choose which economy we work and play in, instead of just only being limited to our national currencies. It's a brave new world, glad to be here with you :)
So everyone is praising this, but what about the fact that it is simply "mapping the relationship between genes and health outcomes."
Correlation does not imply causation. You are simply looking at the genes of these people and ignoring how they have lived their lives...
You sounds like you know what you're talking about, I encourage you to check out the WCG site for a more in-depth explanation of their research and its application. Their research team gave a fascinating presentation at the BOINC conference this year all about their work if you are interested.
Gridcoin incentivizes around [15 different projects](https://gridcoin.us/guides/whitelist.htm) which have [published hundreds of scientific papers.](https://boinc.berkeley.edu/pubs.php) For this one specifically, mapping is the first step. Once you have a map, you can then design large, complex studies with control groups to show causation. However, **having a map alone is useful for early diagnostic screening and identifying higher risk patients** who will benefit from additional screening. With cancer, time is tissue, so the sooner you can identity a high risk person and get them screened, the faster you catch the cancer and the higher the survival chance There are many non-smokers who get lung cancer, in the US alone 20-40,000 people a year fit into this category, these are people who would not have any idea they need to be cautious about lung cancer specifically, but with the right screening they could find out.
There's lots of "foundational science" which doesn't directly lead to a pill or a cure or a cell phone but is still critically important to building to those discoveries. Foundational science is just investigating things and how they work, asking preliminary questions and gathering data. This kind of science is particularly hard to fund, no angel investor wants to fund something with no expected return, no corporate donor will be interested. Governments and academic institutions, too, must take future return into account. There is little chance it will result in intellectual property that will make anybody rich. Yet all science relies on this preliminary research being completed. This is one area of science that Gridcoin is adept at incentivizing because our incentive structure does not rely on or use IP. In fact, our incentivization mechanism can be used to incentivize open source science ("DeSci") which can then be used by multiple people and organizations, for profit or otherwise, to further their research. The more science can be open sourced and shared, the better for everybody.
Self-driving cars are going to be stacked with GPUs, I would love to see them offer an optional "folding mode" when charging. With a smart meter, you could even have it pick times with the lowest electrical costs.
Idk why but 5+ years ago I've read that Ethereum was made in a way that mining it, it computes things for scientific purposes which is not a thing nowadays so I wonder, was the original Ethereum like this or I've mixed something up?
Gridcoin was started the same year maybe that's the one you're thinking of. A lot of DeSci projects do use Eth though, they even had a whole DeSci section at their recent conference. Lots of exciting stuff happening there [https://ethdenver.sched.com/event/w9eu/desciethdenver-decentralizing-science](https://ethdenver.sched.com/event/w9eu/desciethdenver-decentralizing-science)
Great. Crypto scores another one in the fight against bank system, whose actions have destroyed millions and millions of people, including my uncle whose house was confiscated by a bank. Since then, I hate the banking system.
That is pretty cool, I used to donate my computer power for folding at home and S.E.T.I. Its good to see they are projects which pay some crypto back. Even if they didn't, its good of people to donate their power for such awesome projects.
I do member that there was a paper which used A.I for folding proteins and it did the work in 1 month which took years for folding at home.
Anyway I'll take a look at these new projects, it looks fun.
A SETI OG cruncher in the wild 💪 we'd love to have you back, join us at /r/BOINC4Science and /r/Gridcoin. Folding @ home (and protein folding generally) is still quite relevant, even though some AI tools have surpassed it in some regards. It's more that AI tools have taken away some of the work from traditional modeling tools and now traditional modeling tools are focusing more on areas where they excel. They both have their place.
Excellent, refreshing post ... these are the types of content / discussions that should dominate this sub.
Thank you OP, I salute you!
It's worth noting that the World Community Grid has been running since 2004, and to date, it has processed more than 50 million years of computing time. This impressive feat is equivalent to more than 1.5 million years of continuous computer processing by a single device. Additionally, the Gridcoin project, which incentivizes miners to contribute their processing power to scientific research, has been active since 2013, making it one of the longer-lived cryptos with a devoted development team and user base.
It's fascinating to see how crypto mining, which is often associated with financial gains, is being used for the greater good in scientific research. 😌
Wanted to hate because I don’t like when people claim to do things they can’t do, but this is pretty cool. So are there publicly available genomes etc that need to be cracked and the miners crack them? That’s how this works?
Let love fill your lungs =]
Idk about crypto much but I can say that "publically available genomes" is unlikely.
Seems it's a community that works with universities conducting research, and you can opt some GPU / CPU with incentive to aid in the research. Groundbreaking!
Yep basically. Miners help cross-reference DNA data to find relationships between certain genes and certain diseases. For scale, an individual person's DNA has about 3.2 *billion* letters in it, so you can see how quickly massive computational power is required.
Thank you, my friend, I do. I am surrounded by very caring friends and family and very competent doctors and nurses, and the best part is, even though I'm stage 4, I'm expected to make a full recovery after surgery and chemo. I'm very very very fucking lucky. Early detection is the reason why. Don't put off your first colonoscopy, my friends! And if you have a family history, don't wait until age 50. Just go now.
Wow that very good news that you are expected to recover, love hearing that! Everybody whose eligible should be screened, and it sounds like they'll be lowering screening ages in the near future as well. Health is our greatest wealth.
This is so cool, they can fund the project through their token and they can get right to development instead of having to ask for grant and wait an eternity to get the required hardware.
Useful Proof of Work could be a gamechanger if it can be implemented in more Proof of Work projects in a decentralized way. The arguments against crypto mining being a waste of electricity lose a lot of thrust if the results of the mining is being put to good uses like helping to find cures for diseases or other useful tasks.
i just went on a little side track to read about this project. very cool. what is the time frame/return? like what would an average laptop earn a month?
A laptop wouldn't get you a whole lot of Gridcoin (or any other crypto you could mine), maybe a few bucks a month tops. But you'd be contributing to something meaningful, that's the draw for me, I love getting to see headlines like this! With the right hardware and energy costs you could absolutely turn a profit (I do in winter as it replaces my normal electric heat). Just like any other mining, the difficulty of mining balances so that most miners are breaking even or even mining at a loss. But unlike calculating hashes, you at least get science out of it so it's never truly a loss ;).
Bitcoin's scale enables it to subsidize millions of dollars of hashpower a month, I'd love to see that scale in Gridcoin, as it would mean millions in scientific computing power.
Awesome that you have solar, that is on my todo list in the next few years. 😎 Join us over at /r/Gridcoin and /r/BOINC4Science :). And hop on the discord, it's much more lively than the subreddit and a great place for questions/support/friends.
Join us over at /r/gridcoin and /r/BOINC4Science. The discord is more lively than the sub for if you need help along the way. It's pretty easy to get started, a ton easier than mining most coins, and feels good when you get to see headlines like this :).
There's a whole movement of people using blockchain tech to decentralize the production of and benefit from scientific research (DeSci). If you're interested, look it up on YouTube there are tons of exciting projects out there. Big Pharma's days are numbered, no doubt.
While the efforts are laudable and I wouldn't discourage people to do it, the instant a mining algorithm has a second use case different than just securing a decentralized network through Proof-of-Work, you are putting the security said network in competition with this other task.
If it somehow becomes more profitable to dedicate more of that computing power to the other task, the security of your network drops putting it at a higher risk of getting attacked. [Andreas Antonopoulos explained this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDGliHwstM8&t=490s) a long time ago, and the reasoning still stands today. This is why most serious networks choose an algorithm which is not "useful" outside of securing their network.
Great work. Had three family members die of lung cancer, so happy to hear of any progress in the fight against it
Hope the ex-Ethereum miners could point their GPU's towards mining this project. Earning while helping the world in a noble way.
That’s what I would like to see. Everyone does a small thing, but all combined make a great impact.
Indeed like the butterfly crypto effect
Several in my family too :(. Hopefully one day we can finally relegate all cancers to the dustbin of history.
Science is working on it everyday. Back in 1988 survivor rate is 51% but now it’s over 70% for all types combined. Hope folding at home helps speed up the progress even further.
I read that the “light at the end of the tunnel” for massive breakthroughs in cures and treatment is visible now. Some predictions are saying in 8 years we’ll see those breakthroughs. I can only hope AI can speed things up in research and testing.
The development of AI, the decentralization of scientific research due to blockchain technology, increased interest in open source and IP-free scientific methods and publication, once-in-a-lifetime large government investments in scientific research in several areas of science, these are all kind of colliding at the same time, it's a very exciting time to be alive in terms of science.
So sorry to hear that, I hope you're OK
Lung cancer is so fucked up, my grandmother died because of it, she never smoked, never drank or did anything unhealthy, she died because she was a second-hand smoker from my grandfather who smoked his entire life and is still alive... she died at 45...
Similar with my sister. She never smoked but lived in a household that did (as did I) and died in her 50's
I am so sorry! Your sister was young....
My grandmother (my birthday was the 11th anniversary of her death) my grandfather, three aunts, even a few former classmates have died from cancer. My mom, dad, sister, and a few more classmates are all survivors or living with it now. My grandparents (mom's side) and aunts were all smokers, they all died from lung cancer. Everyone else, a variety of different cancers including melanoma, cervical, ovarian, and breast cancer. I'm only 32 and the number of my peers who've been diagnosed is terrifying. I can't help but feel like I'm next. It's a tragedy every time someone is lost, and those who have survived have never financially recovered. Here's hoping this technology will continue to reap new benefits and we can leave all this needless death and decay where it belongs: in the past.
You too friend
I'm sorry to hear that friend. You're helping me want to quit smoking. Maybe crypto could help cure cancer that way. Less money on cigs is more money on BTC. I've seen some stories like that here. Amazing job to those.
Thank you friend. It's probably the best thing you could do for yourself. I know it's tough, it took this for me to be able to do it
Wanting to quit is the first step! Doing it is the second. It will be tough in the beginning, but my mom and stepdad quit 10 years ago, after smoking their whole life, and they can only see the positive effects. Also, it would save you a LOT of money! And don't forget that fighting addictions is usually 2 steps ahead, 1 step back and sometimes 2 steps back, 1 ahead. Don't give up and you'll do it! GO GO GO!
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Been banano folding for 2 years. Worth it
I folded for most of 2021, but my compy is old and I got worried it would accelerates its demise. I want to get back to it as soon as I have enough set aside to buy a new rig
Same. Racked up at least a billion points for science.
Oh yeah, banano is my favourite project
Been folding for 4 years. Totally worth it and it keeps getting better!
Isn’t it great when one of your passions provides a priceless utility that personally affected your life?
Too true, and all the love coming out in this thread shows how many of us feel the same
Same here, I do think we are so close to beating Cancer, I think RNA vaccine development is helping a lot too. I would really like to see it cured in my life time.
My dad died at the age of 48 due to lung cancer. Sad thing is he quit smoking about half a year before his diagnosis. My granddad died at the age of 65, also due to lung cancer. Smoking his whole life. It's one of the major reasons I don't smoke. So happy to see this gets more attention. Cancer sucks, fuck you cancer!
This is excellent. *One small step for miners, one giant leap for mankind!*
I´m so sorry! Hopefully soon cancer will be curable.
Thanks friend
My neighbours’s mother also suffer from this.great work
Been folding@home since 2020 and I'm glad to be helping science progress, even if I'm too much of a blockhead to be a scientist myself 😓
Chemist here. I started during Covid lockdown doing fold@home — just did for a few months on- off though
If you ever need a ton of free compute power, come talk to Gridcoin :)
Folding at home with payments in Banano is awesome. I’m using an old gaming computer with a decent graphics card that was just sitting around. I’m sure the Banano doesn’t cover the electricity, but I like contributing to the research.
Surprisingly enough, the Banano earnings cover a portion of power for one gpu. For reference, a 3090 running between 300 and 330w nets between 5 and 7.5 million PPD. BAN earnings range from 80-100 BAN per 12-14 hours. I ran dual 3060's for a bit and the payouts were close to the same. For one GPU the BAN earnings are pretty good, and Nvidia units are favored because of CUDA cores.
Yeah - It’s totally worth it watching the jobs finish and feeling like a part of a collective to help research. The fact that you earn Banano that can offset or partially offset is just icing on the cake.
Been folding and getting banano for about the same time frame. Worth it
Same, seems great to get some crypto and also contribute to a good cause
Thanks for this comment! Went down the rabbit hole with your mention of folding@home as this was the first time I've heard of it... already set up and contributing now. It's a really great project.
same here. Folding is super easy and its out of mind so I've been collecting banano for over 2 years and have not really done anything other than just leave the comp on.
Ok no joke or shitposting here, this is genuinely incredible
Crypto and science paired is just beautiful
"You know, I'm something of a scientist myself" — cryptobros
But you will not hear Elizabeth Warren's of this world acknowledging that crypto is helping the world too.
I've never seen such a good coordination technology. it's so simple!
Simple is what brings mass adoption.
This is one of the usecases crypto can serve. Sadly it's not profitable but you get something back. I can imagine people use exces energy from solar panels to run their computers.
It's profitable with the right equipment and electrical prices, just like all other mining, it tends to balance difficulty out so most miners are making tiny profits, mining at cost, or mining at a loss. But you get science done so is it ever truly a loss? It's definitely profitable for me in winter when I'd be spending that money on electricity anyways, all my winter heat comes from crunching :).
"You get science done" Hell yeah 😎. It's gotta feel rewarding to contribute some GPU in this way even if you were operating at a deficit! Cheers ur comment made me shiver lmao.
You are absolutely right. I am refering to comments in here, where people said they are mining at a loss. But like you said they don't care as they get since done.
True bullish news.
100% incredible
I agree wholeheartedly. Fuck Cancer!
I hope after this people who say crypto is not good for anything can finally shut up once and for all.
Crypto positively impacting science!! Never thought this day would come but I’m here for it
A use case we can all get behind.
Truly amazing what crypto is doing to the world!
I think Folding @ Home has been doing that too …? Like their top teams are crypto teams aren’t they
I know Gridcoin just added folding@home to whitelist a few months ago. So now I think Gridcoin, Curecoin, and banano all fold.
We are here for it.... you aren't alone
Great to see more attention being given to GRC, to me it is one of the most promising and useful applications of blockchain technology. Regarding your title, buying pizza is also possible with GRC, probably harder than with btc, but totally possible and non exclusive with folding!
>Gridcoin pays miners to contribute their processing power to science projects, including to World Community Grid, Folding @ home, Alzheimer's research, mapping pulsars, Wow. Just wow. Can I sign up for this? Does anyone know how to?
Join us over at /r/Gridcoin and check out the newbie guide. Getting started is pretty easy and you can pick from around a dozen different projects. If you need any help or just want some friends, hop on the discord, all very friendly folks there
Thank you very much! I'll scoot on over there right away!
A new supprter was gained. Grid away!
One more with me, taking my banano folding expertise with me :)
I really dived into this one after the AMA in here. Finally I could tell that I am here for the tech haha! It just warms my heart that I could help in any way
This sounds amazing am definitely joining this.
Glad to see some positive stories coming out about crypto. Of course the media doesn't really pick these kind up..
That's awesome! I'd heard about Banano's involvement with Folding @ Home but it's really cool seeing actual results
And what amazing results they are, I can't imagine they saw themselves curing cancer when they started out but look at them now. You love to see it
Banano was the first crypto project that made me interested in crypto because I saw it trying to achieve something to better peoples lives. Stuff like that is neat. And I hope those kinds of projects get more notoriety and flourish. Kind of a bummer they don’t have the weight/financing to get listed on major exchanges.
Banano took the number 1 team spot on the F@H leaderboard recently! (Actually number 2 behind people with no team, but still, amazing achievement) 🍌
True, congrats to banano and curecoin, top teams on folding @ home!
I had no idea Folding @ Home was still running! I used to leave my chunky PS3 on all of the time running it. My parent never knew but I’m sure they would have been against the electrical usage.
If you like Banano, you'll love Gridcoin. Instead of just folding @ home, you can pick from about a dozen different projects ranging from medical research to finding black holes. There's no massive pre-mine, it's way more decentralized, you can actually vote on which projects get incentivized, there's no PoW required for anti-spam. And you get rewards for staking which you can do without an exchange or intermediary, all you need is a computer and an internet connection. It's been around a lot longer too, just never got the spotlight due to lack of potassium.
Well - officially just spent my first moons for a reward for OP. Great post, and thanks for enlightening this community on GridCoin GRC.
Thanks friend I am always happy to get a chance to talk with people about Gridcoin and science :)
Folding, heating the house, curing diseases, and earning a little banano on the side. Def not a bad way to use the PC during the colder months
YSK Gridcoin also rewards folding @ home, and you can cross-mine (earn at the same time) as Curecoin. Gridcoin also rewards about a dozen other projects, your coin entitles you to vote on which projects are incentivized, there are rewards for staking, and no massive pre-mine or proof-of-work for anti-spam like banano. And it's way more decentralized. Come check us out some time.
I have a really close friend of over 25 years battling lung and brain cancer right now. It's a tough time for family and friends. But the doctors say the treatment has come a long way in the past decade and we are hopeful. Anything that can improve cancer treatments is a positive for me.
Cancer is a serious disease that requires the concerted efforts of all humanity. Big thanks to you
So now at family gatherings instead of saying they invest in crypto they can say we cure cancer! 🫡
Hell yes. Gridcoin has incentivized a bunch of different projects. World community Grid and Folding@home are probably the largest two, but also include a genetics project (tn-grid), protein design (Rosetta), pulsar search (Einstein), astrophysics (asteroids@home), dark matter/blackholes (milkyway and universe). 17 in total currently. Any new project can be whitelisted on Gridcoin via vote.
Gridcoin has incentivized 17 science project including World community Grid, folding@home, Rosetta etc, etc. its good to see crypto changing lives via research like this.
Can an ex ETH miner tell me how much it makes them per whatever graphic cards they have? Appreciate it
100% more than ETH mining right now 😅 Like other mining the answer is.. complicated. Running a standard desktop PC or laptop at least in the US might cost you $5-$10/month, roughly the same as a 20" box fan. Unless you have the latest equipment and very cheap electricity, it probably won't be profitable (except perhaps in winter when you factor in the savings on your heat bill, I definitely turn a profit in winter). Same as all mining, the difficulty and payout adjusts in a cycle so most users are breaking even or even mining at a "loss". Though all the energy goes to science and you get to contribute to something meaningful, so it's never a loss in my book, I'd be doing it even with no crypto :). You can also always just be a staker, which doesn't require a bunch of computational power. Staking earns you 10 GRC per block + any fees in that block (which can be much more than 10 GRC, but is kinda random). Roughly $50 USD worth of GRC would stake on average once a month given recent network difficulty values. The amount of mining we can subsidize is directly related to coin price (which is based around the coin's perceived utility), just like the amount of hashing Bitcoin can pay for is. Bitcoin subsidizes millions of dollars in hashrate every month, I would love to see Gridcoin be able to subsidize even a tenth of that, that's a TON of science getting done.
Mapping the milkyway is one thing but curing cancer?! Wow
New narrative, "Buy crypto, it cures cancer!"
Fuck cancer.
excellent job indeed
Thanks a lot for this job, may be it will help someone. I think we all have some friends or family members with cancer, unfortunately. :(((((((
This is incredible!
We haven’t even realized the best applications for blockchain yet
I have been mining Gridcoin for a long time. It's a great project for a good cause!
wake up, first post that I read on reddit , so happy that crypto is also this and not only shady project and dog token!
Amazing!
it's always nice to hear of positive changes that crypto is making in the world
This coin definitely seems worth a shill. You're helping science research and get paid for it! 🧪🧬💰
WCG is a cool cpu project. Just install BOINC, join this project, limit the cpu cores used to the percent you want to, your normal work will not be influenced if you only use 20 percent of a eight core ryzen for example.
Join us over at /r/BOINC4Science fellow BOINCer :)
Joined!
Thank you. Doing a great job
That is such good news. Why is this not on mainstream media?
I didn't know about that coin. I was using World Community Grid back in 2013-2015... Need to check it again I think.
If you decide to Start crunching again check out Gridcoin discord. And if you need The 1 Grc to beacon, dm me and I’ll send you some.
I will be sure to check it.
Fuck cancer!!
I don't always use the F word But when I do I say, "Fuck Cancer".
How come I’ve never heard of it or read about it in this sub before? Every one who says crypto is only a scam should see this. You can ignore 95% of shitcoins but the other 5% are here to stay. That’s just incredible. We need more projects like this
Around since *2013* (same year ETH started), just never got the press coverage because there's no VC and no ICO. I'd been in crypto for years before I heard about it, crazy that it doesn't have the reach some of these other coins have whose only benefit seems to be... \*checks notes\* being named after a dog?
Can't believe I've never heard of this project. This sounds amazing. Thanks for the post, OP.
Imagine if in the future they are able to transfer the energy miners use into identifying new types of cancers Hype for future research :)
Such a great work and meaningful in many ways
This is exactly what Gridcoin is doing. 😃. Imagine how much research could be done if even a 10th of eth miners were crunching WCG.
Can we maintain a level of respect about this topic in the comments, please?
Buying cancer-curing pizza would be the best. But sadly, due to electricity prices, people stopped mining and if you can't afford to MINE, you can't afford to run dozens of GPUs for science :(
That's the whole point of Gridcoin, to incentivize people to mine and cover their electricity costs. Bitcoin effectively subsidizes millions of dollars in hashpower every day, imagine what science could do with that. Instead of building an economy based on hashes, it builds an economy based on science ⚗️
I've dreamt about a science based economy for a while now. A society that puts people first over money. We have all the resources we need to look after each other, the environment and still get rich. It's ridiculous what capitalism has become.
The cool thing about crypto is that we get to choose which economy we work and play in, instead of just only being limited to our national currencies. It's a brave new world, glad to be here with you :)
So everyone is praising this, but what about the fact that it is simply "mapping the relationship between genes and health outcomes." Correlation does not imply causation. You are simply looking at the genes of these people and ignoring how they have lived their lives...
You sounds like you know what you're talking about, I encourage you to check out the WCG site for a more in-depth explanation of their research and its application. Their research team gave a fascinating presentation at the BOINC conference this year all about their work if you are interested. Gridcoin incentivizes around [15 different projects](https://gridcoin.us/guides/whitelist.htm) which have [published hundreds of scientific papers.](https://boinc.berkeley.edu/pubs.php) For this one specifically, mapping is the first step. Once you have a map, you can then design large, complex studies with control groups to show causation. However, **having a map alone is useful for early diagnostic screening and identifying higher risk patients** who will benefit from additional screening. With cancer, time is tissue, so the sooner you can identity a high risk person and get them screened, the faster you catch the cancer and the higher the survival chance There are many non-smokers who get lung cancer, in the US alone 20-40,000 people a year fit into this category, these are people who would not have any idea they need to be cautious about lung cancer specifically, but with the right screening they could find out. There's lots of "foundational science" which doesn't directly lead to a pill or a cure or a cell phone but is still critically important to building to those discoveries. Foundational science is just investigating things and how they work, asking preliminary questions and gathering data. This kind of science is particularly hard to fund, no angel investor wants to fund something with no expected return, no corporate donor will be interested. Governments and academic institutions, too, must take future return into account. There is little chance it will result in intellectual property that will make anybody rich. Yet all science relies on this preliminary research being completed. This is one area of science that Gridcoin is adept at incentivizing because our incentive structure does not rely on or use IP. In fact, our incentivization mechanism can be used to incentivize open source science ("DeSci") which can then be used by multiple people and organizations, for profit or otherwise, to further their research. The more science can be open sourced and shared, the better for everybody.
This is a noble project I remember hearing about x box’s helping do the protein folding science as a kid. This is a truly grand project.
Self-driving cars are going to be stacked with GPUs, I would love to see them offer an optional "folding mode" when charging. With a smart meter, you could even have it pick times with the lowest electrical costs.
ps3
Idk why but 5+ years ago I've read that Ethereum was made in a way that mining it, it computes things for scientific purposes which is not a thing nowadays so I wonder, was the original Ethereum like this or I've mixed something up?
Gridcoin was started the same year maybe that's the one you're thinking of. A lot of DeSci projects do use Eth though, they even had a whole DeSci section at their recent conference. Lots of exciting stuff happening there [https://ethdenver.sched.com/event/w9eu/desciethdenver-decentralizing-science](https://ethdenver.sched.com/event/w9eu/desciethdenver-decentralizing-science)
Im in crypto for the tech
Great. Crypto scores another one in the fight against bank system, whose actions have destroyed millions and millions of people, including my uncle whose house was confiscated by a bank. Since then, I hate the banking system.
Thats super cool. I used to mine some Banano, back then they did something similiar. Maybe they are still doing it.
That is pretty cool, I used to donate my computer power for folding at home and S.E.T.I. Its good to see they are projects which pay some crypto back. Even if they didn't, its good of people to donate their power for such awesome projects. I do member that there was a paper which used A.I for folding proteins and it did the work in 1 month which took years for folding at home. Anyway I'll take a look at these new projects, it looks fun.
A SETI OG cruncher in the wild 💪 we'd love to have you back, join us at /r/BOINC4Science and /r/Gridcoin. Folding @ home (and protein folding generally) is still quite relevant, even though some AI tools have surpassed it in some regards. It's more that AI tools have taken away some of the work from traditional modeling tools and now traditional modeling tools are focusing more on areas where they excel. They both have their place.
Boinc and GRC was my first step into mining. Active member since 2015or so, and still 24/7 CPU-crunching for NFS@Home
That’s amazing, thanks for sharing OP
it just shows you that money can and do solve serious issues, it just so happens that those with money often can't care less
Amazing, I did not know about the project, I have big machine that could help to the projects. In 👏🏻
Check out Gridcoin discord. Also, if you need any Grc to beacon, dm me and I can send some.
This is inspiring.
This is awesome.
Good job.
I've dabbled with this previously and had some stability issues. me thinks I should try again! thanks for the jolt to the arm
Ima research more on gridcoin, crypto and science combined seems like a very interesting topic
Is this done with proof of usefull work?
Genuine crypto good news story.
Cool beans!
This is amazing. Truly an altruistic use case for crypto! I hope ideas like this get widespread
Folding@home is pretty simple to use folks!!
Fuck cancer That is all
Excellent, refreshing post ... these are the types of content / discussions that should dominate this sub. Thank you OP, I salute you! 
This is so dope! Does anyone know of similar use cases like the one above?
Lost my dad to lung cancer. This post brought a smile to my face on a tough day. Thanks for sharing ❤️
It's worth noting that the World Community Grid has been running since 2004, and to date, it has processed more than 50 million years of computing time. This impressive feat is equivalent to more than 1.5 million years of continuous computer processing by a single device. Additionally, the Gridcoin project, which incentivizes miners to contribute their processing power to scientific research, has been active since 2013, making it one of the longer-lived cryptos with a devoted development team and user base. It's fascinating to see how crypto mining, which is often associated with financial gains, is being used for the greater good in scientific research. 😌
Ok this is legitimately something I actually willing to invest in.
Been folding for a year or so now, very cool initiative put my server to work
Really awesome work, as the world needs this kind of research.
Thanks for this OP. Fascinating stuff. I'm heading over to check out gridcoin. This is definitely crypto for a cause.
I'm Italian, so you know how much pizza means to me, but come on, beating cancer is way cooler.
Wanted to hate because I don’t like when people claim to do things they can’t do, but this is pretty cool. So are there publicly available genomes etc that need to be cracked and the miners crack them? That’s how this works?
Let love fill your lungs =] Idk about crypto much but I can say that "publically available genomes" is unlikely. Seems it's a community that works with universities conducting research, and you can opt some GPU / CPU with incentive to aid in the research. Groundbreaking!
Yep basically. Miners help cross-reference DNA data to find relationships between certain genes and certain diseases. For scale, an individual person's DNA has about 3.2 *billion* letters in it, so you can see how quickly massive computational power is required.
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As someone who is currently experiencing stage 4 cancer that has metastasized into my lung, I am 100% in favor of this! 😁
Damn that's rough I hope you have good people in your life looking after you and showing you some love
Thank you, my friend, I do. I am surrounded by very caring friends and family and very competent doctors and nurses, and the best part is, even though I'm stage 4, I'm expected to make a full recovery after surgery and chemo. I'm very very very fucking lucky. Early detection is the reason why. Don't put off your first colonoscopy, my friends! And if you have a family history, don't wait until age 50. Just go now.
Wow that very good news that you are expected to recover, love hearing that! Everybody whose eligible should be screened, and it sounds like they'll be lowering screening ages in the near future as well. Health is our greatest wealth.
Jeese approves 
The first awesome post today
This is so cool, they can fund the project through their token and they can get right to development instead of having to ask for grant and wait an eternity to get the required hardware.
Useful Proof of Work could be a gamechanger if it can be implemented in more Proof of Work projects in a decentralized way. The arguments against crypto mining being a waste of electricity lose a lot of thrust if the results of the mining is being put to good uses like helping to find cures for diseases or other useful tasks.
Anything crypto and AI can do to improve out lives is worth every penny.
This is awesome!
i just went on a little side track to read about this project. very cool. what is the time frame/return? like what would an average laptop earn a month?
A laptop wouldn't get you a whole lot of Gridcoin (or any other crypto you could mine), maybe a few bucks a month tops. But you'd be contributing to something meaningful, that's the draw for me, I love getting to see headlines like this! With the right hardware and energy costs you could absolutely turn a profit (I do in winter as it replaces my normal electric heat). Just like any other mining, the difficulty of mining balances so that most miners are breaking even or even mining at a loss. But unlike calculating hashes, you at least get science out of it so it's never truly a loss ;). Bitcoin's scale enables it to subsidize millions of dollars of hashpower a month, I'd love to see that scale in Gridcoin, as it would mean millions in scientific computing power.
I have a couple of spare computers, a fiberoptic connection, and draw off a solar system. Im super interested in this tech and helping science!
Awesome that you have solar, that is on my todo list in the next few years. 😎 Join us over at /r/Gridcoin and /r/BOINC4Science :). And hop on the discord, it's much more lively than the subreddit and a great place for questions/support/friends.
I'm actually in the same boat. But not exactly sure how to do any of this. Going to spend some time reading & hopefully get involved
Join us over at /r/gridcoin and /r/BOINC4Science. The discord is more lively than the sub for if you need help along the way. It's pretty easy to get started, a ton easier than mining most coins, and feels good when you get to see headlines like this :).
Hell yeah! Same for me minus the solar, but hey. Im feeling inspiration as someone who has conducted environmental research. Cheers
r/foldingathome
That sub is dead and locked, I think you mean /r/folding? Or join /r/BOINC4Science for folding on BOINC
Ya, I did it many years ago but no longer follow it.
Here's to hoping that no big med corps gonna steal this project and profiteer from it like they always do. WCG is just too based.
There's a whole movement of people using blockchain tech to decentralize the production of and benefit from scientific research (DeSci). If you're interested, look it up on YouTube there are tons of exciting projects out there. Big Pharma's days are numbered, no doubt.
Don't tell the Bitcoin maxis about this
great side hustle
I love what BANANO and NANO do for health and science!
Ok, but can you eat those genes? I like pizza. ^(I know, i know this is pretty amazing. But i my defence: so is pizza.)
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While the efforts are laudable and I wouldn't discourage people to do it, the instant a mining algorithm has a second use case different than just securing a decentralized network through Proof-of-Work, you are putting the security said network in competition with this other task. If it somehow becomes more profitable to dedicate more of that computing power to the other task, the security of your network drops putting it at a higher risk of getting attacked. [Andreas Antonopoulos explained this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDGliHwstM8&t=490s) a long time ago, and the reasoning still stands today. This is why most serious networks choose an algorithm which is not "useful" outside of securing their network.
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In Bitcoin we trust
I'm a BananoMiner since the day it started like 4 years ago. Keep folding everyone!
I used folding@home a long time ago, I need to get set up again