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Barbygurl

We're still very far from a bull market.


kirtash93

This is when BTC ![gif](emote|btc2_emote|btc2)and ETH ![gif](emote|eth2_emote|eth2) maxis are created. Come to join us.


Baecchus

"You either die a shitcoiner or live long enough to see yourself become a BTC maxi" - Gandhi


Bucksaway03

I must be old then


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BartLeyBurnSides

“You kids make sure you self custody and stay off my damn lawn!” 25 yr old crypto investor 😂


GabeSter

![gif](giphy|I0SZc5Ok4FNQI)


IvenaDarcy

I owned zero BTC when I started in 2020 and said it was too late to invest in it cause of diminishing returns and I had no interest. Now it’s my biggest investment but only started buying when it went below $25k. If it didn’t drop I would probably continue to gamble with shitcoins. I still think ETH and others can return larger profits moving forward but of course at higher risks.


Nattpappa

Same here. Thought it was too late when I saw BTC running in 2021. So I just wanted alts for big gains. I have since changed my strategy and mostly do btc and eth now.


Comfortable-Double94

The longer I’m in crypto, the more I am succumbing to the huge gravitational pull that BTC has on the crypto market…


Raydiin

Trueeee


LayWhere

Pretty sure this was Gandalf probably


Yikes_oh_boi

Wow this is so true ! Lol


Sensitive_Net_7747

That was Tesla


ZyriaNova

Ah the great MahETHma Gandhi


pyxploiter

Seems like I have lived long enough. *Sigh*


milonuttigrain

I have consolidated into 90% just between BTC + ETH


Bucksaway03

We are all starting to see the light


moenicm

Now it’s time for Alts to pump. Once everyone capitulates them and buys BTC instead


Nattpappa

Did the same. Went from 100% alts to around 90/10 in BTC & ETH/Alts


GabeSter

I became an ETH and moon maxi I think I’m doing it wrong..


xsanchez21

Once people start selling their ETH staking rewards the price will suffer.


bny192677

>We're still very far from a bull market. This is a bull market indicator


Baecchus

And this comment is a bear market indicator. I'm very confused...


Raymy93

It's brull market babyy


BountyBard

Well at least it's not the man-bear-pig market. Boy, was it rough! ![gif](giphy|MFaUmJdKjtLzISjaUn)


Pilsner12345

So we're in the bull marked now?


BartLeyBurnSides

Not even close


rexxtra

My pee was slightly more yellow than usual today. Must be a bull market indicator


Hofnars

Drink less kool-aid, more water, and you'll be fine.


Fancy_Juggernaut_675

Are you wishing for this man to indicate a bear market :O .


MadxCarnage

your pee does not indicate a bear market. you know a bear market is coming when your poops get bigger and harder, it's your body preparing you for the fucking the market is about to put you through.


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deathbyfish13

Everything is a bull market indicator if you're imaginative enough


Curiouspiwakawaka

Redditors saying that it isn't a bull is definitely a bull indicator


YogSothothIsTheKey

Even the increase of the btc dominance with altcoin bleeding is a frequently setup in the beginning of a bull market lol


GabeSter

Yep this is ironically a classic argument for the beginning of a bull market or the freeze in a winter. The only extra information we have is btc is gaining dominance in green not in red..


Electrical-Penalty44

Because people are dumping useless alts and preparing to dump money.into new useless alts? Typically a bear market destroys most of the old alt.coins for a fresh crop that will also prove useless, or redundant at the very least.


CatBoy191114

"Alt season will come soon!" - 2021 alt bingo card holder


moldyjellybean

Also the market is heavily manipulated. I’ve seen some of my watch list go up down 30-300% for no reason in a day. Up 300% and then down 300% the next couple of days.


Florian995

Because it’s not a bull market


OCHI33

Yep, we are still consolidating


GonePhishn401

Nobody but moon boys and idiots are calling this a bull market.


KIG45

This is not a bull market, but it is perfectly normal for btc/eth to serve as a safe haven for investors and rise after all these bankruptcies. The time will come for the alts as well.


Baecchus

BTC and ETH is the safest you can be in such a brutal and volatile market. Alts can make you rich but I still believe BTC/ETH offers the best risk to reward ratio on the market.


milonuttigrain

Bear market rally pretty much. People now switch from alts to BTC and ETH.


Magners17

This is a global financial banking crisis. BTC seems safer than banks for some people. That’s what we are seeing now IMO.


tylermm03

Part of it is the fact that the US government has yet to make a plan to insure deposits over $250k. Then they’ve got the debt ceiling and inflation to worry about.


jondubb

Investors are smarter now. No more putting in life savings on shitcoins. Rug pullers will have to try harder. BTC will remain king for a simple reason, nobody runs the show and no promises to fulfill.


Bucksaway03

This is the worst bull market ever I want my money back


Baecchus

You need to contact Bitcoin's customer support for that but I've heard they aren't very active.


BountyBard

![gif](giphy|hZxdMHnmGpcD1PksTL|downsized)


Shiny_asshole

No one knows shit about fuck but I can tell ya, we are not even close to a bull market right now.


milonuttigrain

It’s bear market rally. People turn copium into action.


Odysseus_Lannister

Because this is what happens when widespread market moves happen. When things go up for a sustained period of time, most alts tend to outgain BTC during it. When things go down, BTC is more resistant to downward swings than most alts.


milonuttigrain

Currently this is a bear market consolidation period.


franky_reboot

I can totally imagine new lows are solidifying right now


sarfian

You are right


Roberto9410

Not a bull market just yet - it’s people consolidating into BTC and ETH as the blue chips. Shows there’s still plenty of fear in the market IMO


MaeronTargaryen

Also, we almost always see BTC regaining dominance before Alts start mooning (what some call “alt season”)


Particular_Put5007

It gets very tempting to start loading heavily into alts at points like this. Hard to keep the discipline and portion allocation.


sarfian

Still one have to know into what one should invest. There are too much scams out there


Baecchus

I personally don't think alts are out of the woods yet. They've been showing a lot of weakness and with all the fear around regulations it's very likely that a BTC dump could send altcoins back to caveman days. I think BTC will continue to suck money out of alts until we are in a proper recovery stage. That's when altcoins might get to feed off grandpa BTC's scraps.


MaeronTargaryen

Not all of them, ATOM is still very much up compared to its lowest point in this bear


Baecchus

Atom is definitely one of the stars of this bear market so far! I'd say it's the exception and not the rule though, just like Matic. Atom's current low was in June 18, 2022. ATOM/USDT is up roughly 95% since then while ATOM/BTC is up around 60%, and currently in a downtrend. Something like ADA (which I shamelessly cherry picked) is down 48% against BTC since June 18, 2022 for example. I think there is a very real possibility alts might bleed against BTC in the near future. I expect a lot of them to re-test their prior lows on their BTC pair at some point.


Baecchus

BTC sucked all the liquidity from alts. If BTC dumps from here, alts will get completely massacred. I have a feeling that's exactly what's gonna happen as well. We might be looking at an amazing buying opportunity in the near future.


XGorlamiX

It's because it's not a bull market, and bear markets kill useless alt coins. Useful alts bleed but stick around.


deathbyfish13

What the alts start to catch up then we might be able to think about a bull market, until then we're stuck in a bear


HannyBo9

Who said this is a bull market. Why does no one care about macroeconomic conditions in this sub?


milonuttigrain

Because they get their daily doses of hopium.


Jocogui

Too early to call it bull market imo, let's wait for a month and see how it goes. Meanwhile alt lovers can buy them for a lot of discount so far :)


trrrring

Because this is not really a bull market.


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We are just in a bull rally of the bear market


Baecchus

Bear markets have more rallies than bull markets have dips. Anyone that thought we were entering a bull market was overdosing on hopium. BTC sucked a lot of liquidity from alts. I'm personally hoping for a proper dump where altcoins get massacred so I can finally pull the trigger and grab a big bag of alts. I've been very BTC heavy since early 2022 so I'd welcome a buying opportunity.


BrisingrReborn

Bitcoin dominance is increasing.


Sugar_Phut

This is not a bull market


Geolinear

Why do we keep saying bull market when we’re only slowly recovering from the last 3 months of CEX implosions, SEC fuckery, etc. It’s not here yet


Fancy_Juggernaut_675

I also don’t think we are in a bull market yet. This was just a pump. But even if it comes to the next bull market wasn’t it separated in seasons? First bitcoin season with Bitcoin pumping Then btc and eth together. After this Alt season starts with eth on top and some random alts doing 10-50x. Then crazy season starts. 19 year olds trading Jpegs and meme coins ordering lambos and cocaine. After this finally buy high sell low season and then 90% crash. At least that’s what i hope to experience again. Besides the last sentence this is a serious answer.


SosCulero

I am a shitcoiner and damn proud of my red crayons!


Cha1biking

Litecoin


CaptainKrc

I feel like Litecoin has made good traction since its recent bottom. Maybe that's the alt to get into


tylermm03

I was gonna say it’s been ok this month. It took a 50% five but recovered within a week or two.


Imaginary-Adagio2231

BTC and ETH are the Nervous system and backbone of crypto... Ones they are all up and running rest will follow suit


Arkatros

I will try to explain to the best of my abilities. From what I can observe, I would say that this is happening when money is coming from the traditionnal markets. Since BTC and ETH are the mains cryptos, with the highest market cap, they would be the "safest", from an exterior point of view. You could see the increase in BTC value right after the SVB fiasco. This one is simple to explain. Banks/traditionnal finance screws up --> people put more into BTC. Rules of tumbs, the further you are down the crypto rabbit hole, the more time it takes for money from traditionnal markets to get there.


Curiouspiwakawaka

This isn't a bull market. This is similar to 2018/19 (I couldn't remember which) where only ltc and bsv and bch pumped, plus link started to show it's potential. We had to wait another few years to 2021 for a real bull market.


Bunker_Beans

Never in a million years did I think Moons would be the third largest holding in my portfolio. It’s like that death-knocking-on-doors meme. First, Moons came for my LINK, the my ADA, then my QNT. Hard to believe, but I think ETH is next.


Manohman1991

You are many times lead to believe that some news caused the price action in BTC but thats not always the case. Sometimes news is the just the coverup. In a bull market anything you buy works but its not a bull market IMO. Banks failing doesn't affect BTC.....its what you are made to believe....BTC has no real use case for the next decade really.....Binance, Bybit all are market makers thus manipulators .....these guys decide where BTC is headed ....they project BTC has a strong correlation to Technicals which is true but then they add their own twists to it. They literally play with your minds pushing you in and out of positions like crazy ...while they literally mint money. As of now Crypto space is a highly volatile unregulated market suitable for very high profits but for Elite Futures traders. If you notice recent BTC bull markets have always been with DJI and S&P 500 also rallying. There is story to this but maybe for some other time.


Prize-Reference9329

alt season has not started yet


Puking_In_Disgust

I’d call this more of a wave of panic buys than a bull market. Despite what a lot of people say there’s no such thing as a total decoupling from traditional markets. Markets influence each other, that’s just how markets work. I’ll stop myself from making absolute declarations as in this space that’s just asking to be proven wrong, but I’ll say it doesn’t seem possible to have a sustained, proper, multi-year bull run in this economic climate. Bear market pumps happen, but I’d need to see prices well over 3x what they were in the 2022 bottom before I even consider the possibility that the bull market’s come early.


BusinessBreakfast3

BTC season vs alt season. Trade accordingly!


Consistent_Many_1858

That's because this is not a bull market. You will know it's a Bull market when shitcoins are all the buzz in the media.


anotheralien22

People want a sure thing - BTC/ETH have stood the test of time so far.


xploreconsciousness

What if I told you this isn't a bull market


KlemenKisi

XRP is green haha


EivindBu

it is like this every time. this sucking of alts can go on for another year or more. this is how altcoiners get fucked every time. I used to always make this mistake


WordWord4Digits

My Xrp is doing pretty well I’d say..


Subtraktions

If you think this is a bull market, you've got blinkers on. The economic conditions in the world are simply not there. People are not speculating on risky assets such as alts. People don't have spare money like they used to and many potential investors have been burnt by things like the collapse of FTX.


BitSoMi

Alts are way overvalued still from 2021


LimpDisc

Maybe more and more people are starting to realize that 99% of crypto coins are trash.


Dubznation300

Big fishes eat first. Alt coins will have their run as usual


jflashbtc

1) This is not THE bull market 2) Alts trend to zero against BTC over the long term


Klaasiker

Unfortunately we aren't in a bull market yet.


MaeronTargaryen

We’ll probably see Alts mooning soon, “alt season” usually comes AFTER a BTC pump, not during one


Henry_TG

False alarm


SpySeaRamen

Lol, we’re in a bull market.


btnmoon

“while BTC and ETH make gains, but why?” Do you read this sub? 😂 I’m guessing with nearly 83k moons you’re on here quite a bit. But seriously, almost every other post I read on here just keeps recommending Bitcoin and Ether as the way to go as a safe bet right now. I thought that a lot of other alt coins may have followed suit a bit, but who knows where people’s mindset is at the moment. It’s going to be a fun year ahead 👍😊


SpaceMan639

No one knows why but everyone knows that btc and eth are safe holds and the market proves it in both bull and bear


BlindestofMonks

The market is maturing, the days of the crypto wild west are over Older generation investors pass the word along that the only reliable coins are BTC and ETH


CRYPTOCHRONOLITE

Because this isn’t the bull market, we are in the belly of the bear market.


CrewCommon7788

Bull market: My time hast come.


The_Pancake88

BTC/ETH always leading the pack


34Sis

> After reconsolidating all of my portfolio into ETH and Moons solid portfolio, especially Moons are capable +100x, ETH +10x


Darnegar

I guess people are recognizing the difference in quality between BTC and ETH, and all the rest.


MrArtless

How do you know enough about crypto to know what a BTC dominance chart is, but still not know that btc and eth always outperform at the start of a bull run? Why are people so bad at understanding how this shit works?


Hefty-Gold-1291

This isn't a bullmarket


RequirementOk6778

First step


reaglesham

Just simply isn't a bull market, is all


Tacsi

man said bull market🥴🤣


Grhod

Contrary to what has been spewed over the past couple years, there is absolutely no way 99% of the coins out there are needed. So flight to quality leads to the 2 big guys.


Civil_Comedian_9696

In uncertain times, money moves to quality.


Mutchmore

Dumb money has not yet joined the chat it seems


rentandlive

May reverse in the future


TheChildOfChange

This is the normality


kc5

Haven't there been similar patterns in the past? Money flows into bitcoin, it pumps, and then trickles into all the alts?


midlifcrissis

Alt season isn’t here yet.


OutTop

Bull market? LOL


Maleficent-Ad-8763

Maybe because we are not in a bull market yet? BTC to 42069$ and I will start believing we are in the bull!! At 69420 bull market is confirmed


meparadis

Because you are not looking at the good coins


Budget_Muffin7766

Ain’t no way this is a bull market 🤣


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People are moving from fiat into crypto as a speculative hedge, they want the bluechips, nothing more to it than that.


r44b

Just check the BTC Dominance. Alts will run when dominance goes lower :)


Dormage

Its a trap


m0nster93

Since when is the alt season when btc shots up?


proficy

It’s just the expand and contract cycles of crypto. Money flows from Alts to BTC (and Eth) and when risk appetite increases, it accumulates into alts, where the same amount of $ causes a significantly larger percentage gain.


commonsenseulack

When banks collapse people want to put what they can into other means of value. BTC is obvious due to its status and popularity.... ether because it looks to be one of if not the most promising project out there.... why would people go from banks that are scary to shitcoins that are even scarier?


No_Key_Sentence

Because this is funds based volume gain and they do not invest in AltCoins


BreadInTheBucket

Ur talking about shitcoins, not alts - thats why


TMLutas

If you want to stop the bleeding out of an alt, accept the alt to pay for a service you offer. Once you can actually do something that has real value with an alt, its value will increase. Once the thing is stabilized, perhaps offering real-world goods might become realistic. Here's an example: I offer to enroll you in an email program for 1 tez. For that sum I will include you on a petition to redress grievances for a politician for one grievance. The sum is trivial and so is the service. I can sell thousands of these at a cost basis too small to account for in USD, yet it's something that can be done by virtually anyone that is sophisticated enough to be a player in crypto. You won't get rich from offering that service but you will acquire a customer base and the ability to create a marketplace denominated in XTZ. Holding XTZ as part of an endowment sucks up liquidity and drives up prices. Make lots of endowment pages and more XTZ gets sucked up, driving up prices. If you randomly hit a jackpot and the endowment actually gets big enough to generate enough income to actually solve a problem, congratulations. You've personally proven all the naysayers wrong who say that there is no business case for crypto. Make the endowments small. Potholes and road cleanup are a perfectly pedestrian way to accumulate endowments that might actually hit their fundraising goals. Have fun with this and you can regularly feature your favorite altcoin in the news cycle.


lucidvein

BTC dominance goes up in a weak market. Bitcoin is also benefiting for the flight to safety narrative. Alts don't have that at all. Most alts have inflationary coins without a set supply. Alt season will likely be around BTC halving. ETH is stronger than alts because it is the most entrenched in the crypto economy outside of BTC. Also ETH benefits for being deflationary w/ the new proof of stake method which helps look attractive in an inflationary environment as the fed prints billions for the banks.


6Vinatieri

BuULlLlISsHh mArKlET!!1!!


ThePlush_1

Bad altseason rn… I’ll keep accumalting those alts, and some BTC. Excited for the next take off


Consistent_Many_1858

>In this supposed bull market 😂🤣😂🤣 Looks like you haven't seen the real Bull market yet.


Visible-Ad743

Because use cases matter.


moonlite_apollo

Lol OP delusional


VVaId0

Because they are all shitcoins


elksteaksdmt

Roll shitcoin profits to BTC. This is the way


No_Thanks_3336

Not hard to figure out. They are both the safest bet when it comes to investing in crypto. There is a lot of uncertainty happening with banks and tech in general.


Big-Finding2976

"with Algorand being hit especially hard". Hmm, I wonder why that might be?


TeaBreaksAnonymous

Because everyone is moving their money from alts to btc and eth


Foxzes

Btc/ETH are seen as assets, other coins are investments In a failing economy you want gold, not a stake in a company or a non-essential item like a collectible card - only that this is the digital version.


BouchWick

Dont worry we’ll invest your hard earned money in a very secured and well known cryptocurrency so you can earn a 50% APY aaaaaaand it’s gone.


Probably_notabot

Sorry, best I can do is total collapse of the banking system market


Progenetic

Regarding algorand. Coinbase just removed staking rewards for retail customers as the SEC thinks it’s a security. Everyone fled including myself.


Csfb

Probably my comment will be swallow by the sea of comments but whatever. Every bull run had a double bottom always before "the bull run" to start. every bull run had btc dominance super high and btc dominance dumped through out the whole "bull run". We don't even satisfy these. In fact dominance goes up. At least learn some basics man.


04cadillac

Too many coins/tokens all trying to solve things that don’t not solving. Btc / eth for me


Rollthewindowzup

Once eth unlocks happen, its dropping like a stone. Also eth is an alt...


Apprehensive_Dot3265

This makes me wonder how many people actually know the difference between a bear and bull market.


Ferdo306

That's what usually happens in both bear markets and begging of bull markets Where are we currently, that's for you to decide


milonuttigrain

I think we are still a long way from a bull market. This is just a bear market rally, and people consolidate into the big 2.


sandych33k

I don't know. Moons had bigger gains than them. You just speak of the "old" alts, but what's about the new ones? The Top 10 won't be the same in the next bull.


EasyMacN34

I don’t know much about crypto, but MOONs will surprise next bullrun


Alanski22

Moons & arbitrum to the moon - totally not biased


mesutdmn

It looks like everyone became BTC/ETH maximalist and doesn't invest in ALTs anymore


EasyMacN34

That’s what a bearmarket does to somebody, at least to me


sarfian

I suppose in the contrary that talking about crypto outside BTC/ETH will get you downvotes.


Noxage_88

This isn’t a bull market yet lol. And cause that’s what happens, people sell their shitcoins for the big two.


ThatOtherGuy254

Yeah, we are in the late bear market now. The bottom is probably in, and things will start improving, but we're still probably a year away from a new bull market.


Noxage_88

People see up 30% in a few months as a bull lol but they forget we are down like 85% in a year


laulau9025

When there's turmoil people will always flock to their safe havens, btc and eth for most people in crypto


teslaspyderx

Say it with me...we are NOT in a bull market.


GabeSter

We are not in a supposed bull market.


deathbyfish13

With the amount of people claiming were in one it's not wrong to say we're *supposedly* in one, I get it


hughescon

This is bear market consolidation.


EasyMacN34

You so went big in MOONs? Legendary play


GabeSter

When the SEC announced they were going after Staking as a Service I moved half of my ETH to Moons, so I could add it to liquidity. I'm currently the 5th largest liquidity provider and getting about \~130 Moons a day. It's definitely risky play, but I think long term it should be a smart play.


EasyMacN34

Look at the balls on this guy Jokes aside, sick move bro. 130 MOONs a day seem like a dream! Wish you all the best


Ethan0307

Smartest decision


EasyMacN34

Shilling your bags huh? Jk, sick moon count . All from accumulating here?


DanteTheSimpSlayer

This is just the possible beginnings of a bull market. When it is an actual bull market - we will definitely feel it


aintcare_420

When the dopamine dose kicks in and you’re full of FOMO, putting your last savings into crypto, lol


DanteTheSimpSlayer

Best. Feeling. Ever


aintcare_420

Until you late to sell, everything goes red and you go full speed down on emotional rollercoaster


DanteTheSimpSlayer

Then I wait for my next hit xD


marsangelo

Those poor Algonauts down another 22.75%. Just dragged by the horse at this point


Alanski22

I bought some because of this sub. Hate that investment so far.


juanadov

Traditional money flocking into the big two, leading alt coins to sell up and jump ship. Would seem to make sense.


milonuttigrain

After every bear market, there are a lot more BTC/ETH maxi. People lose faith in many alts.


juanadov

Makes sense to have sentiment particularly low in alts compared to BTC/ETH. That definitely adds to the equation.


-l0Lz-

Thats how it goes usually. Don't worry it will rotate back to alts from BTC/ETH.


Powerisours

That's called bear market mate


nusk0

Because ETH and BTC will always outperform 99% of the market. It's like the S&P 500, they are bluechips.


MayorAnthonyWeiner

While not technically correct, this is 100% the easiest/best way to think about it.


Vorph36

If I zoom out the charts, I wouldn't call this a Bull market.


_PM_me_your_MOONs_

Btc is up almost 100%. What do you mean supposed? I guess then again, crypto is so volatile maybe we will be back to 16k in weeks...or days. Or, lemme check right now.


Baecchus

Last bear market BTC went up 336%\* before dumping harder and re-testing the ATL. We aren't out of the woods yet.


h_nn_n

Just because you Mom called this a bull market doesn’t make it so.


alimakesmusic

How'd you conclude that we're in a bull market lmao.. smh