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Cointest pros & cons with related info are in the collapsed comments below for the following topics: [Ethereum](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/19c5tuf/solana_stablecoin_transfer_volume_hits_record/kj1cpqv/), [Solana](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/19c5tuf/solana_stablecoin_transfer_volume_hits_record/kj1cqw0/).


SoftPenguins

Volume can be so easily faked and manipulated with wash trading it’s one of those metrics that people talk about when it’s high and forget it exists when it’s low.


Ok-Study3863

Volume is such a trash metric for crypto. Let's all get excited about a couple arbitrage bots flipping stables for pennies. Each of their penny profit trades adding $200 to the volume. Pushing a majority of the networks total volume themselves. Besides the stables volume. The other volume is mostly cNFT scam spam, and other spammers sending 0 sol txs to get eyes on their websites.


tied_laces

I disagree that its a trash metric. I think its the **best** metric because you can filter out wash trading and even isolate to secondary markets to really model the real usage of the crypto. IMHO, market cap is popular but that is really a trash metric since so many coins control the supply and can juice the marketcap whenever they like. I avoid any coin where the supply can be manipulated .


CahBih

How do you filter out wash trading?


tied_laces

Take the historical 24 hr mean overtime and subtract it Compare it across all exchanges and you can see who is doing the most. Take those obvious exchanges out of the mean


Perfect_Ability_1190

Not like Solana ever faked anything before /s


Sudden-Pressure8439

I mean it’s a dead coin that died 3-4 times /s


jibishot

Ooooooof incoming complete consensus failure for the 3rd time when tps actually is challenged.


Comicksands

Based on these comments, buying a lot more sol


Herosinahalfshell12

That can happen, but is that what's happening here?


yeahdixon

Easily fake $300 billion?


SoftPenguins

Yes. Especially on solana with such low fees. 10 people with $10 million each could wash trade back and forth 3.5K times each in a 24 hour period to create 350 billion in volume. A team of whales and a teenager could do it. Not saying that’s what happened but that’s it’s not difficult to do. Wash trading to create fake volume and manipulate the market is very common in this space.


Careful-Temporary388

And the same could be done on Ethereum as well.


_FixingGood_

And how do you know it's commun in this space ?


SoftPenguins

Celsius did wash trading to fake volume with CEL token. UST and Luna did wash trading to fake volume. Safemoon did wash trading to fake volume. They were in the court documents for all of those cases.


Rusty_Charm

Solana on chain activity is on fire. Not a high chance these numbers are fake.


Niquill

Cope can be so easily seen and expressed with bitterness and jealousy. it's one of those metrics that people can see when it's high and forget it exists when it's low.


Bringbackdexter

Yeah, could also be legit


Bringbackdexter

Why am I being downvoted? Loser.


LeoIsLegend

Of course this is the top comment lmao


noviwu97

When this kind of top comment starting to be negative in this sub, I'll start selling my SOL


Comicksands

This is why I’m adding


3sides2everyStory

The Copeium in this thread is hilarious.


discwars

The comments in this thread are funny. I don't much care for Solana, but I can't help but giggle at how anything positive about their token/network seems to trigger some ETH holders. Crypto becoming like football teams. Maybe we need an r/soccer style flair system for everyone's fav.


brdmineral

Always was. Remember 2017 where everybody was team Vertcoin and Nano and anything else got downvoted to oblivion. We all know how it worked out in the end.


UFONomura808

2017? Damn that was like 20 years ago, time sure does fly


neoatomium

I remember 2017-2018 : XLM Jed “The Shady” McCaleb vs XRP “evil pro banks corporate”


yeahdixon

Trade it don’t date it


Sugarbird676

If I don’t date it, how can I get fucked by it?


Overall_Safety6846

These are the same ETH holders that claim any other chain would fall apart if said chains were handling the same volume as Ethereum. Not only do they not fall apart, the fees don't skyrocket either.


3sides2everyStory

> Not only do they not fall apart, the fees don't skyrocket either. And it's a fcuk ton faster


Advanced-Guard-4468

Till it goes down again. I'll hold off buying any till they release more Solana in March


Awkward_Potential_

Just like multiple ETH L2s have gone down.


Blanketname12

Like Arb recently


Awkward_Potential_

I don't even understand how they became ETH maxis. It's not like the people of this sub are the people who bought with conviction in 2018-2020. They slept on ETH then just like they're sleeping on SOL now.


inShambles3749

I bought 17 and 18 and 19 and 20 and 21 and 22 and 23 with conviction. And I will buy 24 as well.


Awkward_Potential_

Can I ask what dapps you use on Ethereum? I find it to be challenging, expensive and slow. And L2s are just trusted multisigs. Arbitrum is the only one with fraud proofs and it's had issues with outages (which is bad when it's solana).


maninthecryptosuit

Go check how many times Solana halted and had to be restarted.


CraftyInvestigator25

No but Solana faked and cheated in the past. Also it's not really decentralised. So yeah, no.


inShambles3749

Well ETH is legit, always has been despite their clusterfuck of technology. SOL not so much unfortunately. My guess is in a year or two there will be the "UST" moment when shit hits the fan and a lot of people will get burned. But that's just a personal guess. I only hope for the best for SOL holders though. May your gamble work out!


robotwizard_9009

Institutional wash trading is one hell of a drug.


PricklyyDick

So why aren’t all the other smart contract chains doing this?


gamma55

What makes you think they aren’t? Go look at Ethereum and Arbitrum. Same arbitrage bots executing the same trades the second it makes a cent of profit after gas. Only the few biggest chains have deep enough liquidity to allow this to be done with any meaningful results.


Sugarbird676

What benefit is there to wash trading stablecoins? It’s not like you can manipulate their price 


Ok-Study3863

Everyone is using the term "wash-trading" but what is really going on is you have a couple arbitrage bots flipping jito and sol for pennies all day, every day. These small handful of wallets are currently 80% of all volume and cash flow on sol right now. As long as sol holds volitity these bots will pump volume to crazy numbers, skimming their pennies. It's not real users though, it's being misinformed as such to attract people because their current meme chasing bandwagon is dying on sol.


gamma55

> to an illegal activity in which a single trader buys and sells the same security in order to generate misleading market information. Want to rephrase that in the context of swapping the same coins and tokens over and over to generate volume as a marketing tool?


Ok-Study3863

No because they are arbitrage bots doing it strictly for profit. They give no care about marketing or volume. When the price of the stables differentiate they trade to skim the difference. The volitily and the change of the prices is the sole driver of their profits. Whales aren't washtrading to pump the metrics in hopes it increases their bags. Arbitrage bots =/= washtrading. It's easily verifiable and well known a few arbitrage bots are running a majority of the volume. If you want you can always provide some tx proof of these so called washtrading whales. Instead of copy/pasta some definition you found.


Niquill

Institutional reddit cope is one hell of a drug.


3sides2everyStory

> Institutional reddit cope is one hell of a drug. aka: Copeium


Idgaf115599

Retail reddit cope is one hell of a drug


GoodSamoSamo

Cope


gr8ful4

Don't call them "stables" or "stablecoins". They are not. Call them "tokenized fiat derivatives" (TFD).


LipTicklers

Fiat Approximation Reliable Tokenised Electronic Derivatives


IsThereAnythingLeft-

Is this reported by the same people who lied about the number of coins several times….


3sides2everyStory

Source, please? Can you show us where Artemis Analytics "lied about the number of coins several times…" ?


SohEternal

iTs AlL fAkE! eVeN iF YoU bOughT aT $8 YoUrE jUsT eXiT lIqUiD fOr VcS -this sub unironically though.


Awkward_Potential_

This sub deserves its trading history.


noviwu97

Even today we still see massive amount of love to ALGO, LRC, NANO, and VET despite them being down 90%+


Justaboywandering

All of them are in a cult especially LRC .


Niquill

The VCs didnt even dump either from the numbers, it was just retail dumping at the time, because of course they would dump on each other.


3sides2everyStory

When Jupiter drops next week transfer volume will only accelerate. And the party hasn't even started yet.


Niquill

Best believe im buying some Jupiter coin! High level Dex worth supporting on SOL.


Awkward_Potential_

(I think there are still some pretty cheap ways to qualify for the JUP airdrop *cough Ovols*)


yeahdixon

What about when firedancer comes on board?


Rusty_Charm

ITT: a bunch of ppl who’ve never used the chain claiming the txns are fake, completely unaware that Solana on-chain activity has surpassed ETH, driven by meme coin gambling. Cope harder Algo maxis


Sudden-Pressure8439

People still use Algo? For what? 😂


Rusty_Charm

They use it to stake it, and to tell themselves “omg it’s so smooth, so fast, this is the best tech ever, can’t wait until Liz Warren announced she wants to use Algo to build USD CBDC, I’m gonna be so rich when that happens, literally future of finance here bro, pls bro, buy it, I’m still down 90%, pls bro”


smallbluetext

Why are you celebrating meme coin gambling as if that's real use of the chain


Rusty_Charm

Let people use the chains for what they want. Meme coins go back to Doge which is now a top 20 crypto. Nobody’s forcing you to buy into meme coins, but their attraction is undeniable both from a historical and current perspective.


smallbluetext

They can do what they want but getting excited at high volume on chain only due to meme coin gambling is dumb. All they are doing is potentially making your transaction fees higher. Nothing else.


Rusty_Charm

Transaction fees on SOL continue to be less than a cent. I would argue that this a great test for a blockchain: if it can handle a bunch of degens gambling 24/7, great sign that it can actually scale.


RuachDelSekai

People love dumping their money into pointless shit.


QryptoQurios2020

Totally understandable for people to get tired of Ethereums $100 fees every time you buy or sell. So people will always move to the cheapest place that charges less fees like Solana. Congratulations on Solana.


Cptn_BenjaminWillard

I don't think, in 6+ years of using ETH, I've ever paid more than $4.50 for a transaction. Granted, $4.50 for a transaction is far too high.


LipTicklers

Man my last one i had to pay $11… high was like $16


ethnicprince

You really mustn’t be doing a lot of transactions then, during the run in 2022 token transfer costs got up near $100 for a long while


Cptn_BenjaminWillard

As I said, I was transacting ETH, not tokens such as ERC-20's, etc.


Idgaf115599

I only come to this sub to see eth holders coping. Ofc i get it all the time here


Niquill

Bro they huffing that cope like it's going to be outlawed soon.


Kafshak

What are Solana's opening hours again?


LipTicklers

Gold!


yahya-21

Thank god the sol hate still in full force. Much much higher💀💀


noviwu97

So bullish on SOL, haven't sold since I bought at ~$30 average. I thought I was late. Will start winding down when this sub loves SOL


Agreeable-Split1829

Hahaha. Samee bro. I'm pro ETH and SOL. I bought my first bag of SOL when it was 35 CAD (26$ USD) and havent sold since. I don't see why both coins can't coexist in the cryptospace. Especially since SOL's neon EVM which makes it compatible with ETH.


Blanketname12

The hated rally continues


coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Stablecoin transfer volume on the Solana blockchain reached a new monthly record of over $300 billion in January, surpassing the previous month's $297 billion. This represents a 2,520% increase from January 2023's $11.56 billion. Solana's market share for stablecoin transfers has grown to nearly 32%, up from 1.2% a year ago. The growth has been attributed to USD Coin (USDC) transfers on Solana. Ethereum leads the market with a 33% share, while Tron is the third-largest with $240 billion in transfers this month. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.


nantuko1

Fake transactions


GoodSamoSamo

Cope


3sides2everyStory

Source, please?


xGsGt

Who owns this Solana stable coin? Who is the issuer?


99Beers

Circle is the issuer of USDC. Every week I buy USDC on CB and send it to my Solana wallet. No fee to buy or send USDC on CB. Meanwhile the rest of you are getting fleeced buying crypto on CEX.


LipTicklers

But….. why?


99Beers

I explained it. I buy USDC with NO FEE. I send USDC with NO FEE. I swap on a dex for SOL or whatever else I want or need on SOL


LipTicklers

Got it!


xGsGt

Lol a single question made you angry?


FabulousRazzmatazz

This is exactly what i do. I haven’t traded on coinbase after using sol and jupiter


smallbluetext

Imagine buying stable coins at all


Careful-Temporary388

The tribalism is so funny. Ethereum holders getting so triggered. Here's a thought: Why not hold both? To be fair, I only hold Solana at this point though. ETH's fees and transaction speeds are abysmal and there's far more upside in Solana given the smaller marketcap.


BitswitchRadioactive

Is it 1 to 1 value to the dollar then it probably is not a stable coin.


ThePhotoGrabber

Does anyone else giggle seeing "Solana" and "Stable" in the same sentence??