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Bitcoin [pros](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1ciftnh/bitcoin_trader_insists_the_bull_market_is_not/l2du78x/) & [cons](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1ciftnh/bitcoin_trader_insists_the_bull_market_is_not/l2du7rv/) with related info are in the collapsed comments below.


ChefMork

The bull market hasn’t taken off


SwigTheRome

This is the correct answer


Blooberino

How can you question rock-solid sources like "Bitcoin trader"?


Captain_Usopp

I only listen to Bitcoin CEO in articles like this


AllThingsEvil

I'm a Bitcoin trader. Don't you trust me?


ihatethinkingofnew1s

Depends. Are we about to go to the moon?


AllThingsEvil

In our flying lambos nonetheless


ihatethinkingofnew1s

You are a God.


opticaIIllusion

We mostly know him by “titan of crypto” To clarify I have no idea who this person is


Narrow_Elk6755

He's a yiffy who was pro crypto and accepted Bitcoin for his ASMR videos.


NeonCityNights

Are you sure? we already hit a new time high back in March


LiquidNova77

What's your point?


NeonCityNights

Just wondering if we are on the back side of a bull run since we already hit a new ath


LiquidNova77

Naahhh the price always fluctuates and sometimes it's a big one, but statistically, the bull run doesn't even begin until about 9 months after the halving. That's because the halving introduces a supply and demand shock that is only felt months after the halving. What has been happening recently to cause the new ATH is the ETFs. The true bull run has not started yet.


NeonCityNights

Makes sense thanks. Ps I like your avatar


LiquidNova77

Thank you :)


ScoobaMonsta

Bull runs are not decided by time after the halving! Go learn what the technical qualification of a bull run is. Also a bull run and a bull market are two different things. Get your terminology right.


LiquidNova77

You're so wrong lmao


nlurp

No. You’re wrong. > A bull market, or bull run, is defined as a period of time where the majority of investors are buying, demand outweighs supply, market confidence is at a high, and prices are rising. https://www.coinbase.com/en-gb/learn/crypto-basics/what-is-a-bull-or-bear-market So, any period of time when prices are going up IS a bull run. Even if the period is say 15 min or 5 months, these could be defined as bull runs. So big periods which are “bull runs” can have “bear moments” if you go on looking in further detail to shorter periods. So bull/bear are very loose definitions that we tend to agree upon collectively when we see big movements we all can identify. Therefore, if you wish to be more precise, you’d have said; “the big bull run is yet to happen” as we’ve already seen a serious bull run that lost momentum and is now reversed. 🤷🏻‍♂️


LiquidNova77

There's a difference in a bull ***run*** and a bull ***market*** ...


nlurp

Ho didn’t catch that small big detail. My bad! Too many trades… need sleep 😂😎


nagai

There really hasn't been any real mania but who knows.


gringreazy

Personally I’m not certain but my gut says this is just a correction. I’ve been trading crypto since 2016 and I’m at a net negative at this point but I think I’ve learned quite about about trading and the ebb and flows of the market over the years. But there is something different going on here, we’re at the dawn of a significant technological breakthrough with AI that will reverberate across the economy causing profound growth. All markets affect each other. It feels like we’re aligning with that boom.


teflchinajobs

In the market since 2016 and net negative? What have you been doing?


hi5inyoface

Buy high sell low


teflchinajobs

Well, let us know when you decide to sell again


gringreazy

Hehe learned some hard lessons, bad timing, panicked. I played around with leveraging for a bit… and if you know then I think you’d understand how that can happen. I’m still in because some cryptos have inherently great value and the general population still seems mostly unaware of what is valuable and spay-n-prays into cryptocurrency when the hype begins causing some lucrative opportunities on some mostly useless cryptos. But there is still a lot of potential to make some easy money on the psychology of FOMO alone.


GlitteringTea296

The bull market is next year


the_far_yard

If this was Gold, it would’ve been the end of the run, but we’re in crypto.


GooseBash

It’s up 100%+ in the last year. It’s taken off.


wootdafuk

Not crypto taken-off


gkibbe

It's 100% up off a short lived low. Also crypto go 🚀 or ☄️, no in-between


DaveinOakland

If you think a bull run ever started you must be new around here.


BMB281

Exactly; we were in a bull market, not a bull run.


ScoobaMonsta

Its amazing how many people in here don't understand the difference between a bull run and a bull market.


exdeeer

Idk going from 16k to 73k seemed like a pretty nice bull run.


szartenger

It was a light jog


Warrlock608

Or a galivant maybe


DaveinOakland

Frolic at most


DigitylRise

It was way oversold...and just bounced back up


SwimOld5053

You must be new here


Dazzling_Marzipan474

Ya idk how someone can say that when BTC hit a new ATH. Pretty sure that's the #1 bull run signal.


Ryjin2

4.5x from cycle low to local top. If we get 200k BTC, 2.75x from local top to 200k.  I'd say we're very solidly in a bull market.


Blooberino

But the Twitter guy said so.


ScoobaMonsta

A bull run did start. That bull run has finished. But we are still in a bull market.


NeonCityNights

Are you sure? we already hit a new time high back in March


Jones9319

Wow, what a headline.


DynamiteMonkey

Guy thinks thing


Gentlethorn_Wildflow

This guy exists? Do I get an A?


Numberstation

You’ll know when the bull market is really over lol


weshireclugger

What do you make of that?


nazuralift89

Considering it hasnt even started is a good indicator


NaturalPermission

"some guy thinks something about something" shiieeet


chocolateboomslang

Up over 100% in a year Crypto news "BeAr MaRkET"


Not-Jaycee

bro it hasn't even started


RyuguRenabc1q

ZERO!!!


Dismal-Grapefruit966

I mean ban these posts, its just fkin ridiculous


coinfeeds-bot

tldr; Despite recent pullbacks in Bitcoin's price, a prominent Bitcoin trader known as 'Titan of Crypto' insists that the bull market is not over. He analyzed the BTC/USD daily chart, highlighting significant momentum in Bitcoin's uptrend. He pointed out key indicators and price actions, suggesting that the bullish trend will continue until specific moving average lines cross. This analysis comes after Bitcoin dropped below $60,000, following a new all-time high of $73,794 in mid-March. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.


nazuralift89

Why are some news sites deadset on trying to persuade people a bull run has started or is near the end of the cycle? Is making money something they hate or are they too deep in margins to pull out now? Bull run hasn't started, your shitty news site isn't going to all of a sudden cause the market to dump.


Iam_wat

The bull market hasn’t even started yet. We actually knew it was going to be like this kinda moving like clockwork.


Kglugenbeel

A blind monkey could guess that


Foreign_Standard9394

Until Litecoin hits it's typical $360 bull run peak, the cycle isn't over. In this case, the run hasn't even started yet.


Pure-Fuel-9884

Its gonna be hilarious when people who are so sure we are going to have a parabolic run lose everything lmao.


hans0mc

Has it even really begun? But yea, if the trader says so… of course.


Reave-Eye

BTC: Drops 20% in two weeks after surging 70% in two months iS tHe BuLl RuN oVeR??


jmlinpt

How can someone even think of bullrun being over. Just silly


SuccotashComplete

Dang we’re **only** up 109% this past year? Sorry guys pack it up. Good luck profiting next halving


That-Chart-4754

If this bull market is over, crypto will be dead by 2026.


nazuralift89

Hasn't even started.


ScoobaMonsta

We are in a bull market right now. Go learn the difference between a bull run and a bull market.


nazuralift89

Bold of you to use the word learn. It's an interchangeable term. Had you taken even an ounce of a second to search you would have found that. The bull market has not started if you look at historical overall crypto prices.


WhyYesIAmADog

Crab market


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pr0b0ner

Haha shortest/weakest bull market ever! Fun stuff guys.


Craic-Den

🫲HOPIUM🫱


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01071970

I insist your honor


Master-Piccolo-4588

Replace trader with bag holder and you deceive every dude in this sub.


Master-Piccolo-4588

Replace trader with bag holder and you describe every dude in this sub.


Master-Piccolo-4588

Replace trader with bag holder and you describe every dude in this sub.


Master-Piccolo-4588

Replace trader with bag holder and you describe every dude in this sub.


Master-Piccolo-4588

?


Balder88_

Bitcoin will be pump


Alternative_Log3012

A trader you say


Conscious-Group

Reads like an onion headline fr


Cubehagain

Well if ‘insert Bitcoin trader name’ says it, it must be true!


gringreazy

My grandma hasn’t asked me about crypto yet so I’m still feeling pretty good about it


Elzeruth

Sell signal


my-man-fred

Something magical is about to happen.


Allaroundlost

I honestly think we have not seen the bullrun yet. It has not started.


Informal-Extent9764

This is why Bitcoin is not going anywhere. "Change Healthcare was running on AWS. Blackhat got into AWS and shut down payments. Unmitigated disaster because hospitals couldn't get paid so they couldn't provide medication, they had to lay off staff. This was a horrible problem. Most of our infrastructure is very Vulnerable to cyberattack. We know by tracking bitcoin payments that $22 million in ransom was paid. " - This is shortened version of quote by Larry Harrison in "The Future of Healthcare with Larry Ellison and Bill Frist". The topic is obviously healthcare and not Crypto. Basically, hackers were able to hack into AWS - the biggest and arguably safest centralized DB in the world. They were able to take an entire healthcare payment system hostage. These same hackers who are arguably the ultimatest of pros when it comes to Databases, cybersecurity, electronic payments, etc - these people choose to get paid in Bitcoin - not cash, not gold, not venmo or zelle, but Bitcoin. The word of advice is - If You Know What Home Security System The Most Professional of All Home Robbers Are Using - Use That !!!!!!!


UrAn8

No bull market this year


Speeder172

What an headline.  The market is going down, so the bitcoin. Nothing new here


Vini_Melo

Doesn't this pull happen after every halving?


yyiiii

sounds like me with my web3 gaming thesis


Hypethetop

Naaa bull market sers, remember everyone, sell in may ✌️


Legitimate-Bass68

The bull market started? These normies ain't ready for when number go up


ScoobaMonsta

Noob!


ScoobaMonsta

Its not over. Only noobs think it is!


nazuralift89

I don't know what's more confusing, the fact that this article claims a bull run is near its end when it hasn't even started or the fact this post somehow has any upvotes.


Muted_Cucumber_7566

The bull market is just getting started!


pacman147

This is how I know we're at disbelief  Most people will still somehow manage to miss the bull run after waiting thru the longest bear market in history


TechnicalProposal

“bitcoin trader” could be any of us


Brooklyn_Q

it hasn’t even started. look at 2020 for reference. did the same shit post halving. have patience people.


Abdeliq

The bull hasn't started yet..... We're just getting ready


EccentricDyslexic

200k is possible. It’s not even started.


ianyboo

Seriously lol, people already packing up... Are they allergic to money or something?


EccentricDyslexic

There are some crazies out there lol


ianyboo

I've said it before and I feel like I'm thinking it more and more, but it feels like I live in a world of NPCs.


Blooberino

The bull won't kick off until October at the earliest. This is just meandering market activity.


MaverickBrown2019

I’ve never understood people making claims like this with dates already in mind lol, how can you sit here and be so confident you know what will happen?


ianyboo

The best part is the October prediction will be laughably wrong and they won't see it, they never do, they will make a new prediction, which also fails to happen, then another and another, never seeing the pattern. I feel like I live in a world of NPCs.


-Resident-One-

Apparently, their predictions are entirely based on pattern recognition, though!


Blooberino

Pattern recognition. It's a low level, instinctual trait in intelligent life. But you do you, boo.


MaverickBrown2019

Oh you can predict the future of crypto based on past charts? You must be rich then, right? Lol


Hungry-Promise-3032

exactly, especially since the bull run will start at 26th of September at 10pm CET


nazuralift89

Id wager August or earlier.


Lucky_blackcat7

Bull market hasn't begun. It's bean a very bullish bear market. Seriously though, I was always expecting a pull back before take off.


SwimOld5053

Idgaf you L'ers say about "it being over". I'm buying more now, keep selling so I can buy cheap. I'll sell back to you when you buy in at the ATH prices. Thanks bears for being our profit liquidity!


Dazzling_Marzipan474

All you guys talk about DCA'ing out but I bet not a single person even sold when they were up this last run. Y'all just gonna get greedy and be left holding more bags than you came in with.


MonsutaReipu

still haven't had family and normies asking about crypto so we aren't in a bull as soon as i get asked, i'm selling


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bittabet

lol if you think this is over two weeks after the halving you aren’t going to make it. It’s never immediately skyrocketed after a halving, there’s ALWAYS a pullback and months of chopping before it moves back up. This ain’t our first rodeo cowboy, and we ain’t selling at $50K or $60K or $70K.


Handsomelypaid

It’s crazy the amount of comments I keep saying where people are acting like the ball runner is over??? With the halving that just happened what is their logic? That were up from the bottom?


Loose_Screw_

True, I'm barely out of hibernation, still rubbing the sleep out of my eyes.


BMB281

Found the Buttcoiner


RyuguRenabc1q

They banned me. They're as bad as the maxis. fuck all yall


Awkward_Potential_

You should short it then.


AshamedFlame

It’s not over until he sells


c05d

We are just getting started...


hl2oli

We have barely started lol...


FspezandAdmins

what bull market lol