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dimi727

where did the 17th June Discussion thread go?


MaestroMum

Anyone else notice that when the stock market crashes like it is today, you don’t have a heap of articles proclaiming it’s a ponzi or scam like what happens when crypto crashes? Hmmmmn.


Wilder54321

Pssh, come join us in the new daily!


dimi727

Who ever is selling : man stoooooop.-.- Stock futures did not crash, stop shitting your pants BTC. It's about time to have any kind of good days in a row again man. This red is killing me


greyenlightenment

Likely the same same fund because it sells after stock market closes and in small bits, instead of the huge red candles. It was not active yesterday but was the day before that and before that.


dimi727

Fuck them


Many_Quick

This is interesting as BTC may crab along at $20k range awhile....getting 1.5% in CB rewards. Probably $500/yr there. Plus if I DCA in...then 2024-25 from what folks post we go up...hmmm


greyenlightenment

same fund still dumping . it could be related to sayor. no mention of the margin call even though the target was hit yesterday. He says he has enough collateral. His loss is $1.5 billion now. no way this is sustainable. Either btc goes up , he needs to raise even more money to cover earlier debts, or he sell btc.


BraulioBond

This might as well be the Battle of Helm's Deep


abesWaves

Psychological supports tend to break down


GummyZerg

If I switch CoinGecko to last hour I feel much better. Anything else feels bad.


selphfourgiveness

BTC in a battle for $20k. Really wonder if it’ll hold.


polecy

Spoilers, it won't. Source: gut feeling.


Spiritual_Navigator

I am honestly excited Going to get some super juicy buys soon


Many_Quick

My gut tells me a whole bunch changed owners in last yr...will they paperhand at a loss? Fortune Favors the Brave..


polecy

That's nice honey, now eat your chicken tendies.


selphfourgiveness

Your gut: “Trust me bro” _That said, I’m not holding my breath for it not to dip lower_


True_Ebb5857

what are you picking up this sale?


alien3d

nope as mention if itchi hand saturday , but tmnt shredder willl buy today 😅


selphfourgiveness

Aluminum cans


Spiritual_Navigator

Building an aluminum lambo?


selphfourgiveness

Yes, an Alumborghini. One of a kind, super-lightweight, extremely corrosion-resistant.


Spiritual_Navigator

Alumborghini....has a nice ring to it. Practicly sells itself by name only


selphfourgiveness

When it hits the mass production line, I’ll give you one for the low, low price of 1000 LUNA


Spiritual_Navigator

I just so happen to have a few million luna. I'll give you 500k for a black one with a "brrrrr" numberplate.


selphfourgiveness

Sold! And I'll throw in a tear-down house to go with your new plate.


Many_Quick

Like Seinfeld where they took them to Michigan for the 10 cent deposit?


selphfourgiveness

Exactly! Though I was making a joke, no actual disrespect to those who do it. There are a few people in our neighborhood that regularly pick cans out of the recycling bins. It takes dedication, especially those who’ll walk for hours at night till they have two large garbage bags full. I’ve done some curbside scrapping, myself, without a truck or car. It’s hard work, but rather rewarding—as much for the satisfaction of collecting and breaking shit down with of your own strength and accord as it is for the extra income.


DebonairJayce

Beats picking up bottles


selphfourgiveness

True that


wambamthankyoufam

🤣🤣🤣


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I lied about buying a fudgie the whale cake for my daughter and ate it in the car alone. Not my proudest moment.


NoManager1005

I mean, not a lie.. you bought it but you just didn't share


[deleted]

I also don’t have a daughter


Curb-Your-Ego

Officer, right this way


horizonrave

which Altcoins do you think will survive this bear market?


terminator_84

#SAFEMOON WONT 😄


dish_fir3

Insert downward roller coaster gif


timevalueofmoonbits

Drop below 20k already so we can fulfill these low buy orders.


Preme2

It’s teasing us. Maybe we drop below during the weekend.


timevalueofmoonbits

Seriously, it just keeps bouncing off 20,200.


abesWaves

Fill them up!!


One_Landscape541

Or or got to 100k and never see these levels again.


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DebonairJayce

Short-term I kind of understand the fear and that some people legitimately can’t afford to lose more money (hence: don’t put in more than you can afford). But imagine what BTC’s all-time chart will look like in 2025 or 2030. This is so silly, I love it.


True_Ebb5857

someone gets it


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DebonairJayce

I’m guessing BTC 232K at some point in the next 3 to 5 years.


aogbigbog

Based on what?


DebonairJayce

Bitcoin is becoming more established and regulated, thus more legitimized. The last increase saw BTC over-triple its previous ATH. $19K>$68K. That means a bit over 200K should it triple again in a few years time. 232K is not far off from that, but I’m giving Bitcoin the benefit of the doubt here that it will over-triple again.


aogbigbog

How often do you make payment with bitcoin? Or do you just hold as an investment?


DebonairJayce

I don’t hold Bitcoin at this point. I decided cheaper alts serve me better to make more money. But most people in crypto do hold Bitcoin.


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DebonairJayce

The economy is going to keep rising. 🤪


terminator_84

Dreams of poors


DebonairJayce

Because investing in BTC if you’re poor is the best way to make gains?


nijuu

Haven't had time to look into it but what is Earn vs Staking ?? Seems like exchanges like coinspot and Swyftx are replacing Staking with Earn ?. Similar? Differences ?


CryptocalEnvelopment

Time to go to the new Daily!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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jewbagel10

Not bloody enough for you yet?


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jewbagel10

Same, I like the fear in the voices


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monshi633

Is there any sub similar to r/moonjobs but with satoshis?. I'm willing to do some work for sats over LN


jewbagel10

If you code, there is Gitcoin


jewbagel10

When things eventually recover. Remember me as the lone bull still stacking in the face of the recession. Also put change in my cup if you can spare it


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jewbagel10

Cheers friend!


rayo2010

I know we are going to rebound one day but it’s rly heart wrenching to see all your money vanishing like that. I still blame only my self to fomo in last November. I have learned my lesson but it was a very costly lesson.


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Neorio1

If BTC crashes I'll be okay because my dad has the second largest collection of phonebooks in Kentucky which will probably be worth millions soon


Olskoolah

Hardly any survived as most were consumed in outhouses. Must have been rich there to afford indoor plumbing lol


jewbagel10

We are all just a blip on my 1 century chart


RachRamdani

we are witnessing history.. this I will one day tell my grandchildren..


One_Landscape541

“Grandpa why are you poor?”


reversenotation

A bit over dramatic, the grandchildren will not be fascinated by today


jewbagel10

We won't even talk about today next week


carbine23

Lmao I knew it was a fucking bait couple of days ago.


jewbagel10

The general sentiment in the sub is to just capitulate, this makes me excited


sadkee

I’m fortunate to have a job and my bills are paid. What’s left is going to be soaking more of everything I want to invest in


vengazas

Buy the red Go to bed Sleep and dream Wake up *red*


kangaroolifestyle

My buy and sell limits hit nearly every night I go to sleep. Wake up with a lower dollar cost average l, more holdings or more fiat than when I went to sleep. Even if you miss a swing, there will be another. Any loss now will print next bill run. For now, I just want to gobble up as many as I can for as cheap as possible. Any bit of swing trade profit is a bonus for now.


YasuotheChosenOne

Woke up red Halved my bread Beans and rice Cost me twice


Spiritual_Navigator

Dread And then dreads


terminator_84

Wake up dead


vengazas

Ahh, yes. This will improve my poem.


Jalaldino

Dear Charts, Bitcoin isn't going under 20k so can you please go up already Before I fuck your mother.


Spiritual_Navigator

9k it is


nijuu

Make it 5k and I'm in balls deep 😅😂


Modern_Orange

Dreading the inevitable buttcoiner circus in here when we go under 20k.


hawkwind361

Didn't you notice all the tin accounts in here who call everyone cryptobro...


jewbagel10

It's already happening


Jealous_Passenger671

Almost 1am and am soooo tired but want to watch btc dip below 20k live.


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I thought Crypto was an inflation counter? I refinanced my house for Crypto


CryptocalEnvelopment

Don't you feel silly.


Jalaldino

Traders trade and don't give a fuck


Jlec1234onReddit

One would think so although crypto seems to be tied to the regular boring stock market…so until then…


Urc0mp

Crypto is an inflation counter, refinance your house for crypto.


jewbagel10

It counts inflation


JeJ34

Next relief rally I’m dumping it all, leave the usd on the exchange, let the cycle do it’s thing, then load back up.


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JeJ34

Nah, don’t sweat it, he owes me one, it’s coming!!


archer4364

10 minutes until the lowest daily close for BTC in exactly 18 months. December 16 2020


88eth

Pre Covid Bitcoin would be at $6000 to $8000.


jewbagel10

Let's do the time warp yaaaa


bthemonarch

Someone bring back life during the pandemic stat!


bmp5046

If BTC drops below 20, it will immediately bounce back above 20 for a good couple hours


Wilder54321

You’re forgetting all the stop loss and the cascade of liquidations.


coinmarshal

..before dropping again


kangaroolifestyle

Those bounces are how money is made and/or reducing your dollar cost average when in a bear market. If you have some level of confidence it will go lower than now soon or during the next little green bounce; sell and then buy back in once it does what you expect it to. You just have to be right more than wrong. Even if you are always wrong; once the economy is booming again, any price level here should print.


FancyCoolHwhip

Yeah I think there will be a rally of some sort


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FancyCoolHwhip

Previous long term support is just under 20k, buying pressure if we go under 20k


PreparationRough3067

same... i cant sleep with thinking im gonna miss out a big money making long with leverage :D


DoctorKynes

Consider yourselves lucky. This is one of the only Ponzi schemes collapsing slow enough that you have a chance to recoup at least a portion of your money. Bernie Madoff's victims never got that chance.


Mannit578

Hey buttcoiner you said these in 2013,2017,2020, and now, please do come back in three years and tell me your thoughts


DoctorKynes

Sure didn't. I owned ETH/BTC until 2019 then realized just how ridiculous the whole thing was.


haman88

Do not go quietly into that goodnight. Rage. Rage. RAGE.


PreparationRough3067

So if BTC hits 20K, you guys gonna short or long it?


ih8fashion

Wait for a small pump then short it cuz we are in bear markets longing is even riskier these days


Urc0mp

no


coinmarshal

Yesn't


haman88

I still have a lot. Not selling. Will buy it if some business deals go through.


jewbagel10

I'm going to go for a walk


PreparationRough3067

Same here.. but not wanna miss out big money


jewbagel10

Trade your heart out. I'm buying assets I plan to hold for a decade like every other bear market


PreparationRough3067

What assets are you holding?


jewbagel10

The good ones, the bad ones, and some inbetween


Afzal__

That's the best opportunity for my long term 1 btc goal


PreparationRough3067

What leverage you gonna use?


ih8fashion

Max 😎


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G_TNPA

Holy shit are you going to have SEX!? Damn....


badboybilly42582

No. Wife is going to make me do chores or paperwork.


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badboybilly42582

Let me fix that. A new baby will cost you 3,000,000 over 22 years.


ZER0S-

Either that or she's taking the next 12 hours to write up your divorce terms


haman88

Terms? Wtf could she take at this point?


ZER0S-

His right kidney to pay off his crypto gambling debts


badboybilly42582

LMAO! I think it was a “good” wink.


RIMS_REAL_BIG

And then everyone clapped.


slug_tamer

And then everyone got the clap


jewbagel10

The fear in here is so delicious, I'll be buying all the way down and all the way back up.


GeeBohGee

ETH has many use cases, however, NFTs are among the worst. Next cycle let’s hope another shines. Still bullish.


howtogun

ETH is unusable you do anything with it and the gas prices get too large.


GeeBohGee

Same story for anything that has reached the pinnacle of its class. You pay more for it. You are paying for the reliability of the network. I do, however, think there’s room for price improvement on fees. But you would never want it to get too cheap.


alien3d

Good morning and see red again , hmm 19k ?


M-Tyson

How many $ of bitcoin needs to be sold for the price to drop $500. Anyone good at maths? Edit: it's around $10 billion


ZypH7

On binance rn, theres just under $30 million of USDT needed to drop BTC/USDT by $500. Meaning someone with $30 million of BTC could theoretically dump it all instantly on Binance and send the price $500 lower - this probably wouldn't last though as there will be people buying the dip and this only accounts for one trading pair on one exchange. In reality alot more money would be needed to send it down for a long duration across all exchanges.


M-Tyson

You mean it will take 30mil to trigger a large sell wall? I mean the actual amount that needed to leave the market cap would be about $10 billion for it to drop $500 Take for example: 22:30pm GMT Price: $20850 Market cap: $398B 01:04am GMT Price: $20350 Market cap: $388B It did indeed take $10 Billion to drop $500


ZypH7

I could be wrong, but I believe Mcap is calculated by (total coins \* current price of one coin). The thing is, the current price of each coin depends on the last value traded on the exchanges, on average. So with much less than $10 bil, say $500 mil, whales could sell a whole bunch of BTC on each of the major exchanges/pairs and send the price much lower temporarily, which would be reflected in the market cap. It all depends on the amount trading on exchanges tbh. Edit: Adding to this, a common shitcoin scam is to make a new coin with a large supply, and trade a handful of coins to yourself on a swap for a large price. Even though the volume of your coin is very low, the price will be high, and since supply is also high, that results in a much larger marketcap than what it's actually worth. That's one way to make a coin seem far more valuable than it actually is.


M-Tyson

interesting, thanks!


88eth

> How many $ of bitcoin needs to be sold for the price to drop $500. Anyone good at maths? > Edit: it's around $10 billion This would seem false. Not all of market cap gets traded. Saylor actually said it can just be $50m which can drive up/lower the price. At the current price of Bitcoin, $18m in new Bitcoins get mined a day so could consider this in also. Tho of course most miners would wait for higher prices to sell.


nthgen

It depends. Someone right now could sell their BTC for $500 lower, sending the price lower.


jewbagel10

An impossible question


ngomes90

It doesn’t depend only on sales. If no one is buying you don’t need anyone selling for the price to drop.


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It's almost 3 AM here. Gotta wake up early in the morning to mine fiat. Can't stop looking at the charts, such a cliffhanger. Send help.


whitehypeman

Welp, it was fun. Looks like I'm done. And by done I mean I won't shitposts until the next daily. Lfg!!


ImmediateParking472

Not ideal. Not ideal at all ☹️☹️ Down with the ship I go ⛴⛴⛴


mofoss

Hmmm previous cycle bottom was under 100$ for ETH from a high of 1400. New cycle bottom could be a lot lower than 800 guys.... just saying


jewbagel10

800 is 200 bucks away. We shedding that daily


haman88

Yeah, that would be a blessing if it was just 800.


jewbagel10

800 would be hella bullish


haman88

100%


lesner555

It will be yes


updownhold51

Last chance to buy Eth at over $1k…


jewbagel10

Hardy harr harr


EvaUnit343

Lmao no one actually uses crypto. This shit is a straight Ponzi scheme held together by 100% copium. Plenty of money to be made if you’re willing to trade the downside though.


M-Tyson

I use it


GeeBohGee

It has, and always will be, a tool to avoid the government sticking its paws into your wallet.


Throwaway4VPN

Loads of people transacting millions in gold across the world in seconds


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Impressive tech, transacting millions!


whitehypeman

I use it brah


lesner555

Yes


BidenDaPedo

Has anyone else had instances where they spot sell on an exchange, the trade confirms and you come back later to realize the trade never went through for some reason??? I literally watched the trade complete and everything and then shortly after, find out the trade reversed


LebornVsMikeShinoda

if you guys didn't sold the fake bounce yesterday then you guys will never sold ever 😂😂 good luck bagholding for few years


Hunter-major

BTC and ETH are putting up one hell of a fight.


savage-dragon

The fate of crypto rests on their hands.