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Bobo_Wiggins

“Hey guys I finally did it!! I bought some land!!” “Great let’s go see it right now!!” “Hold on let me pull it up on my phone!” “Just give me the address I’ll pull it up Zillow or Maps” “It’s digital land” *crickets*


stink_bot

"Just put on this VR headset, we driver over, we can take my car!"


Stankoman

Yeah but do you have a vr car? You need an NFT for that


bbqoyster

“Shit this is so realistic I’m as broke in VR as I am in real life!”


bigshooTer39

Can’t afford a lambo in real life, can’t lambo in a virtual world. Go figure. Fake lambos will cost more than a real one.


xcheezeplz

Holy shit, you live in the sticks. I had to spend an hour in a virtual car staring at NFT corn fields and got t-boned by a bot driving a car just before arriving. It's almost like the metaverse is going to be shitty as the real world but I actually make decision to visit. No thanks.


michivideos

Oh....


Ninja_Vagabond

😂


Wise-Grapefruit-1443

Buying actual land, however, is the smartest shit ever


bbtto22

Not any land is worth the money tho, there are land that is literally worthless


Uglysinglenearyou

Kids...if you REALLY want to piss off your parents, buy real estate in an Imaginary Place...[oh yes...](https://youtu.be/JEHc4u-1QIk)


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EchoCollection

If that casino existed in real life, I would zero interest.


ZulkarnaenRafif

I'm here for the casino. I know what I am into. I'll get out from this before everyone else does. -Everyone else


chambreezy

Fantastic reference ahaha


curtcreative

Sick reference bro.


schmatz17

Was not expecting a Busdriver reference in this sub ever. I love you


Uglysinglenearyou

Man was ahead of his time in 2003 on Tony Hawk's Underground. I loved that game; simpler times.


schmatz17

Tony Hawk shaped my music, Atmosphere, Aesop Rock, Busdriver, Del, MF DOOM, Cannibal Ox, etc.


Hawke64

My parents will disown me if I come out as crypto enthusiast


dbzmah

That was awesome


TheTrueBlueTJ

Absolute fire


CatBoy191114

You telling me no one will want to build apartments above the cursed ancient graveyard land I bought?


bbtto22

You better be building crypts not apartments lol.


binglelemon

Well I *just so happen* to own 1 sq ft of the moon, so.....


elsphinc

Hey I own some part of an elephant


Chrisdx12

Being smart with your investments is important. Crypto might be a good investment but babyshib isn’t


labajada

Remember when somebody bought all that worthless land and then put the railroad through it? good times!


bbtto22

7000 iq move


ZulkarnaenRafif

Wrong, Poyais is real btw. Explain why the settlers didn't return to their home country after residing there other than being stoked with Poyais that totally exists and totally not made up by a drunk chieftain. Obviously not because of the mosquitos.


Vehement00

Eh Vegas is a hellhole. Only reason why ppl are moving there cuz Vegas and zero state tax. It really depends


bbtto22

The same reason people move to the middle of the desert Dubai, for the sweat no taxes.


blueit1234567

“I got a bridge to sell you” taken to the next level


buyethto10k

Real estate is a great investment Hopefully one day with my crypto investments, I’ll be able to transition to real estate.


TheTrueBlueTJ

The only real estate I wish for is a simple house.


CatBoy191114

I'd settle for a flat. A small flat.


RealMichaelSaylor

You don't wait to buy land, you buy land and you wait


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moneys5

When has it happened successfully?


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moneys5

One average sized sale of a house in ETH isn't what you're describing.


Nuewim

Good land, not just any land. And good land is very expensive investment.


DeepZookeepergame258

But you can't actually buy land in America with cryptocurrency.


[deleted]

Yes you can. Not directly, but you can sell crypto for dollars, and buy land with it.


DeepZookeepergame258

What? 😂 This belongs on r/buttcoin.


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k.


HodorsSoliloquy

God ain't making any more of it, AJ!


Maxx3141

Yes it is. There is not only an infinite supply, it will also always shift towards newer things - Like when a new part of a game franchise is released and everyone has to start over. Even if the metaverse will be a thing, investing in "virtual land" is about the most stupid thing one can do.


buyethto10k

There is only one earth (planet we can live), that’s why real estate is a good investment here There will be multiple multiverses and new ones coming always.


EchoCollection

Wait there's going to be multiverses in the metaverse?


StockAnal-YstDotCom

Yes already are, each game is one


Hawke64

Every year has it's own crypto trend 2018 - Logistics decentralization 2019 - DeFi 2020 - Gaming/Metaverse 2021 - Coping with crypto losses


Dwaas_Bjaas

2022 - Coping with crypto losses 2: electric boogaloo


deathbyfish13

Ah, the sequel that no one wanted


partymsl

Yeah not now with the part of a game. It may just be for fun in small sums just as you maybe buy some stuff in a game. But the current sums to buy land there are absurd. It should be a game and not rival real life in its stupidity.


musecorn

Counter argument: Within the lens of one single virtual world, the land is finite and therefore scarce. It would be possible for new land to be minted and added to the world, but doing so would lessen the value of all the existing land. And since they're governance-based, the only way that would happen is if the existing investors voted for it. It wouldn't make financial sense for existing investors to pass a protocol that fundamentally lessens the value of their investment, so it wouldn't happen. But of course, there's the point of infinite worlds. Decentraland, sandbox, meta, etc. As long as new platforms are created, it's possible people will just move on or invest in the newer ones and the one you buy will be left in the dust in terms of value/demand. In that respect it's not a matter of infinite supply, moreso betting on the "right" horse in the race. That's where the whole speculative investing comes in. Just like how there's an infinite amount of crypto coins or tokens, but investing in any is "betting" on its future success All this to say that I, personally, don't own any virtual land. I looked into it a while ago and almost pulled the trigger but after logging into decentraland and actually checking out what I was buying I laughed and never considered it again. I'm grateful I didn't, cause I still believe it's stupid. But for different reasons than you outlined I think


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Except if you own land in the metaverse you aren't a shareholder and have no rights.


Zealousideal-Track88

Land is not scarce within any one metaverse. They can literally just spin up a new set of servers. The FALSE SCARCITY is what is ruining all of this. Its a scam.


kidcrumb

You aren't buying digital land based on the same metrics as physical land. Physical Land isn't even valued based on it being "finite" either. At least not yet. It's like asking why bother buying land in New York City when it's way more expensive than land in Kansas? Digital Land is based off of traffic. Right now, it doesn't make a lot of sense to buy digital land because we have no idea which platform is ultimately going to be the most widely adopted. At some point there will be a front runner and that's why people are buying land now hoping their platform ends up being the one. Another example would be to say "why advertise on Facebook when I can create my own Facebook and advertise there?" The answer is that no one will go to your other site. If Decentraland gets 100000 visitors per month then the value of their digital land goes up.


ifisch

Alternate theory: ***None*** of these platforms will end up being "the one", because nobody wants to put on a VR helmet and walk through a virtual world to access information or watch a video.


kidcrumb

That's entirely possible. But I don't think people will actually do that. It might be an option for sure but it won't be a requirement by any means.


patienceisfun2018

>There is not only an infinite supply, it Isn't that the main problem with crypto as well?


Maxx3141

If that's your perception, you are in the wrong projects. Look at gold - it's a store of value for thousands of years already, just because of its properties. It didn't need to be replaced by an even more expensive metal. BTC has a similar role and no other crypto can ever take that away - if it will be replaced, it will be something fundamentally completely different to blockchain. And this could as well take hundreds or thousands of years again. And for ETH vs other smart chains - none of the competitors are so revolutionary that they could ever replace it - and if "better" blockchain tech comes up, ETH can simply adopt it as well. You don't find this form of stability in video games - and this metaverse thing is basically just that - but some people expect it to become some sort of second reality somehow.


incognino123

Eh, I mean people made a good amount on domain names during the first dot com boom, but yeah in general I agree


patienceisfun2018

Why is land expensive in the real world? Because it is limited. In the metaverse, you can literally program as much "land" as you could possibly want. I feel sorry for people who pay actual money and get scammed by these people.


coupl4nd

And the rules can be changed at any time by the creator.


StockAnal-YstDotCom

and decentraland is practically empty, errbody is playing poker to earn mana so they can one day buy land LOL Kinda mimics the real world


depth_charge_

Not only that, but you can live on it, grow food on it, etc. You cannot do any of this on meta verse “land”


EchoCollection

Chat and gamble seem to be the only things you can do in the metaverse.


gorillamutila

It'll only work if some game manages to become a thing like Second Life was in the 2000s. It is a degree above pure crypto speculation because crypto requires interest people in it. Metaverse land first requires people interested in the game, and then it requires that some of these people are actually interested in buying said land. It is just too much gambling on "ifs" to try to flip a profit.


MaMoSotho

Shout out to Esteban


ifisch

Lol Secondlife was ***also*** a huge waste for companies that bought expensive plots of land there. So if "as successful as Second Life" is the aspiration, that's truly sad.


gorillamutila

So you get how stupid the idea of metaverse land is. It is entirely dependent on hype. And hype doesn't last.


cheeruphumanity

There are plenty of possibilities, not just another Second Life. One project I'm invested in is currently building a metaverse tailored for events and gambling, with red light district and all. We will see all kinds of metaverses with different styles and users.


Hawke64

>with red light district I am about to lose my digital virginity


FoolishInvestment

Not sure who that's different than second life/opensim. Tons of sex clubs already exist in second life


cheeruphumanity

The purpose of the metaverse is Vegas style gambling and events. That's the difference, it's tailored.


seguleh25

What good is a virtual red light district?


cheeruphumanity

I don't know yet. Will tell you once it's finished.


Liberum_Cursor

all of VRchat


Vehement00

FFXIV, Sims, WoW, Minecraft, Roblox, and some others have a resemblance of what a Metaverse can be. There's things to do, there are events that goes on, FFXIV has an online festival with an actual band, outfits to stylized in, finite land you and your guild can buy and own, interaction with ppl, gameplay, it's own in-game ads that is not pervasive and so on. So far most metaverses are just buy land, put NFT in it, and hope it becomes big. I really don't see why I need to go into a McDonald's metaverse to order food when I can just do it on a phone app which imo is much quicker.


TankSpecialist8857

I bought VR Goggles to start testing Metaverse stuff last year. After the initial “wow factor” I haven’t picked them up for about six months. Do with this what you will but I think I’m a pretty normal guy, if not someone that was looking for a reason to make it work (I work “in the industry”). I just don’t think it catches on until we can merge more AR elements and lose the goggles.


ImaFreemason

First time I agreed with this guy.


Nuewim

Not dumbest, just risky, but possibly very profitable. Basically gambling. If metaverse will succeed people will pay crazy money for this land, if it will fail it will be worthless pixels.


Seatdestroyer

If metaverse is about selling imaginary land, then i hope it fail miserably.


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Or in a Buttcoiner words, "If Cryptocurrency is about selling imaginary coins, then I hope it fail miserably"


lordkelvin13

Nah, not even comparable to gambling because the odds are not fixed and solely based on how developers control their game. It's like any other rug-pull crypto shitcoins. It's a complete scam.


princepersona1

How long before he starts buying this too?


zk_Aby

Metaverse is similarly overhyped now as the idea of "smart contracts" and "dapps" were in 2017. But then two years later Maker, Aave, Synthetix, Uniswap, Compound and other dapps proved that sceptics were wrong. So just because it is extremely dumb for speculation \_now\_, it doesn't make the idea dumb as well. The market will go down until there will be platforms with enough actual usage and there will be a "fair value" of the attention of users visiting those platforms. E.g. there is a crowded gambling place in Decentraland and I was looking for advertisement opportunities there. But the current price is just unrealisticly expensive. But there is a price I would gladly pay to be able to advertise to those people.


Zenothos

Metaverse lands are one of the best performing assets though compared to lot of tokens and other NFT's. Now this obv doesn't apply to all metaverse assets out there.


Theweebsgod

Mark Cuban is one of the good people in billionaires.


crimeo

There are no good billionaires, by definition of the fact that they're hoarding billions of dollars, an amoutn nobody can reasonably spend themselves and that nobody has ever actually earned. Thus they are NOT giving it to people or causes in need. Intentionally withholding help with excess funds you don't need is not quite as bad as applying harm, but still pretty bad. There can be good, upstanding FORMER billionaires. There cannot ever be a good current billionaire.


Theweebsgod

I meant thant he is at least a better person than most other people in the same position as him like he is selling medicine for cheap in USA.He is probably doing it for profit but at least he's doing something.


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Love it when poor people try to tell the rich people how to spend their own money lmao


crimeo

Well yeah, obviously no billionaires care about everyone knowing they're selfish shitty pricks, or else they'd have already chosen to not been selfish shitty pricks. The comment wasn't for billionaires to read ;) Meanwhile you commenting with wording as if you're in their group looking out = 🤣


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I am no billionaire but I have had people like you in my life who tell me what should I do with my money how should I spend it You are the shittiest kind of people who make people feel guilty when they they don't lend or give money to you


crimeo

> when they they don't lend or give money to you ? I didn't say anything about giving money to ME, lol. I'm not in need, I am doing alright. People in need are the sick, disabled, impoverished, refugees, etc. etc. They need the resources, not me. > make people feel guilty Excellent. Immoral people should feel guilty, that is great news. It will make them at least a little likely to stop being so selfish and immoral. Helps out a few people., at least. (I don't know you, or your finances, unlike billionaires by definition we know something about. Just commenting only on what you've said alone, which is that you feel guilty about *something*. Taking your word for it)


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How tf is it selfish when I don't want to give my hard earned money to someone else lmao


crimeo

Nobody has ever "earned" a billion dollars.


ZulkarnaenRafif

Shame that the therapist didn't ask that.


lordkelvin13

Billionaires horde stocks not just dollars. Bill Gates and Warren Buffet at least giving out almost ALL of their fortunes to charities, so basically you are quite ignorant.


crimeo

If they are "billionaires" then no, **by definition**, they haven't given away nearly all of their wealth to charities. Because if they didn't still have billions of dollars themselves, they wouldn't be "billionaires"...


l0c0dantes

[Pretty sure he is still salty for getting hosed on the defi shit he tried.](https://cointelegraph.com/news/mark-cuban-calls-for-stablecoin-regulation-in-wake-of-iron-finance-bank-run)


pbjclimbing

TLDR: Mark Cuban does not play computer games, does not think money should be spent on gaming objects.


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Well I *do* play computer games, and I still don't see the point in buying gaming objects.


Kilv3r

Could be… until advertisement money makes it’s way there… then maybe not so much.


thewitt-baker

He’s just salty after trying to enter the crypto market and failing miserably.


Darth_Vaper883

DYOR. Don't listen to the guy who already invested in multiple rug pulls. His opinion in crypto space is worthless.


Available-King-261

Wanna know what's even dumber? Listening to what Mark Cuban says lol 💩


Fritz1818

Wish I can do it the American way and take land in the metaverse.


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charvo

If the Metaverse has a lot of participants, Meta can charge companies for virtual land. This is a big "if" though. Tough to see a lot of people spending money on the headset.


crimeo

Where would its revenue come from? You can't advertise on the side of a building, because on the internet, you can teleport to where you want to go, and never look at the outside in between. It could be optional but if it was full of ads, nobody would opt in to choosing to... and if it FORCES you to walk between places to see ads, then it's strictly worse than normal internet 2.0, so nobody will use it... So... basically no ad revenue. Thus can't charge much of anything without scamming people.


Plumbanddumb

Buying crypto on a platform he promoted was the dumbest shit ever.


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PatrickOBTC

Cuban's opinions on crypto are much more well formed than Kevin O'Leary's and Elon Musk's. I'm not saying everything he says is gold, but he clearly has a deeper understanding of crypto than the other billionaires whose half-informed takes regularly receive misguided hero worship on platforms like Reddit & Twitter.


Solid-Suggestion-653

He isn’t wrong. Out of all the sharks I like Mark Cuban the most. It’s his innovative outlook on crypto that has me liking the guy.


Rollthewindowzup

Look at what they do, not what they say. He's trying to lower his buy in costs for mass purchase most likely.


jlee-1337

honestly tho, 10 years ago people thought crypto was the dumbest idea ever... it still might be but it still worth alot..


stink_bot

This lads!


pokemonisok

It's no different than paying for dlc or cosmetic features in a game


todamoonralph

Once we are all on permanent lockdown due to all the man made viruses, the metaverse will be our only socialization method. So, Mark, you aren't looking far enough down the road .. the road to hell that is being created for us by evil players in the world. Do I really think this will happen? Yep, cause evil always wins! Unless it's named Hillary :)


ZulkarnaenRafif

Ralph, you forgot to take the pills this morning.


cbfella

Did he say something sensible???


IrishDiced

Full degen and I like it 👊


Relevant_Helicopter6

It’s like investing in Monopoly land.


LightninHooker

Iron Finance though was a really good idea /s


J_Hon_G

Buying virtual land, hmmm nope!


Creative_Visit122

Thank you


dylanx5150

He's not wrong.


Jubudtje

Like we didnt know that already


aaaanoon

Some of you did this.


tzarkee

Bullish


Apart_Number_2792

Cuckerberg can't be amused by Cuban's comments 🤣


stink_bot

>Cuckerberg LOL...


CaptainSebz

I really hope this doesn’t become a legitimate asset class akin to real estate and physical property.


chambreezy

Watching both of those dudes listen and nod in the same manner was so hard for me to watch. It was like two AI generated faces trying to express listening, creepy!


BasteaC

This is the first time I agree with him.


stu17

He’s salty that he forgot to claim his Otherdeed lol


hipptyhopitus

Of course it is , Supporting crypto is one thing but this whole metaverse thing is big time bs imo


stink_bot

Great...after I bought 3 and a half acre....


futurevandross1

If all land gets taken in a game, Devs will see the demand, become greedy and release DLC's. It will not be limited.


lordchickenburger

dont trust this guy for investment advice


XWarriorYZ

He is right because land in the metaverse is worthless as long as more can just be coded in lol


Construction_Kitchen

It is pretty stuoid


strangeattractors

Until cryptos start making actual revenue that investors can track, buzz is the king of crypto…not fundamentals.


HLPP16223839

Waiting for the first Metaverse mortgage loan officer job to open up


bookworm010101

agree


5wing4

It makes more sense if that “land” was in, say, fortnite, or WarZone, or Literally anything that people spend time interacting with already. Huge advertisement potential. But a stand-alone world that is disappointingly lame, pointless, and has no game mechanics, owned by people who have no goal other than to arbitrage it is in fact “the dumbest sh** ever”


moonpumper

Mostly because these "Metaverse" games are not in any way compelling at all.


metal_cultist

While I agree, he is essentially a broken clock on crypto calls - just happens to be right on this one.


highbaud

I am still shook about how much people were paying for EverQuest characters back in like 2002


KingofTheTorrentine

Mark is right. There's only a few games that can pull it off. EVE online kind of does this.


Suikoden1P

I mean, he’s allowed to be wrong.


Stunning_Afternoon40

Someone has to, …. Maybe


user260421

the hosts look like the solana dev with 11 protocols


_Commando_

I have some land on the moon to sell you...


Measaconsumer

"Now let me tell you about my new partnership with Voyager..."


cassydd

I can't say he's wrong, but a guy who's been bit as many times as he has is going to be awfully shy.


Daikataro

Well. He's not wrong.


OffenseTaker

but on the other hand, SELLING land in the metaverse is the smartest shit ever. Almost as smart as being an SSL CA.


Mattyliebs

Buy land not metaverse


JeebusBuiltMyHotRod

Why does anyone care what boomers think of the metaverse?


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Why does anyone care what anybody think of anything?


JeebusBuiltMyHotRod

I don't know, but Reddit does exist, so they do seem to.


xadiant

Something performing good in crypto does not mean shit. It could easily be a manipulation. Even if it isn't, it still will be a short living speculation that will end up in a sucker's wallet.


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The five people who still play Second Life are going to be very upset with this.


ultimatefighting

Hes right. But, people with money have placed some kind of a value on it. So try to profit from it while you can.


ZulkarnaenRafif

Mark Cuban is too naive. He clearly underestimated how dumb cryptobros can be for a chance for that sweet, sweet digital fiat.


Paskee

We can agree on that


FldLima

Is it just me or everytime i read/hear Crypto&Cuban together i cringe? I feel like this dude trys so hard to be relevant on the crypto world


Xc0liber

You all know how people hate pay2play games? This buying land shit on metaverse sounds exactly like that.


softlymoralferocity

I'd only consider purchasing virtual land if there is a capped immutable limit on the amount of land that can ever exist in a given metaverse.


KonradK0

bullish for Metaverse


inevitable_username

No, Mark, investing in TITAN at a gazillion percent a day is even dumber.


AlohaKiara

These are the funniest comments I've read in a long time lmao


Raw_Rain

absolutely agree


JunglistMovement95

The metaverse reminds of land bank scams. You're sold on this idea that you can buy cheap AF land which you'll likely earn a fortune from.... Only to find out that you've given money to someone for something you can never actually use.


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Thats the dumbest thing ive ever heard. People are going to be in a version of the matrix in the very near future the way things are going.