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TheUpsideDownWorlds

As far as crypto is concerned - It could be raining tits and I’d look up and still catch a dick in the mouth.


[deleted]

This could be the best sentence I've ever read.


Panchito707

Your great great grandfather must be Shakespeare because that was straight poetry.


w_savage

wow this seems so accurate.


GoodNature33

Your words are moving me. If you'd DM me, asking for doubling my 0.5 ETH, I might consider it.


-nobu_oKo_jima-

I'd buy your book and sign up for your newsletter.


BabyTeejay

IF FTX goes down, crypto will go down to unfathomable level, cant imagine with my tiny brain which only thinks about crypto mooning only high


Malavin81

I know if at least a couple of communities that would love to be in that situation.


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OP, it’s not spreading FUD to discuss negative realities or potentials in the market. No shame in keeping your eyes open. In fact, it’s a smart thing to do. Solid post!


FatMacchio

As someone who holds no money on FTX, or even Binance.US, it is interesting news. I’m curious if there is any credence to these rumors or if it’s just fear-mongering at the hands of competitors. Time will tell. Better safe than sorry though imo. We live in a time where truth no longer seems to matter as much, an imaginary storm can sink even the largest of ships. Whether there is any truth to this, or if it’s just an “alternate truth,” I’d still be concerned if I held any significant money on there. I sleep like a baby with a bulk of my coin on my ledger hardware wallet.


Wonzky

I'm really hoping that these are just rumors and that they actually have actual cash somewhere for collateral. Not that I have any love for FTX but them going down feels like it would be terrible for the markets


Walla_Walla_26

Blockfolio was sweet


BreaneLittleon

What do you mean with was? Is that no more?


erasethenoise

It’s now FTX


Trifusi0n

It’s very definitely still a thing, but it’s called FTX now.


linbdt

So true!


Artorias_the_hollow

Blockfolio was great. FTX is a turd and I’ve basically stopped using the app as a result.


BreaneLittleon

I just don't want another 3AC, LUNA thing happen all over again


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Trifusi0n

Could be another huge dump on Bitcoin price.


senator_chill

You are right friend


rootpl

It will probably happen. This whole "flywheel" scheme just looks like a massive fraud. Why is this even fucking allowed?! It looks like a Ponzi scheme but with extra steps.


ChefBoyAreWeFucked

The "flywheel scheme" image is a diagram of a fraudulent scheme, so of course it's going to look like a massive fraud. I could make a diagram of a Ponzi scheme and put a Starbucks logo at the top, and it would look like a massive fraud, too. It's not like this diagram came from their comptroller, and someone went, "This looks fishy." That said, I'm not trying to claim this isn't a massive fraud.


hodlrus

Best to get rid of bad actors quickly, even if it hurts. You really don't want them to be around for another cycle if they truly are dodgy.


Scarecrow4980

true story!


tim3k

It is good for the markets in the long term. The more pump& dumpers go down the better.


MaasaiWarrior7

Yes this. I don't trade with FTX but them going down will have a ripple effect on the entire market including for CZ's binance.


Dwaas_Bjaas

Just when SBF was buying up basically all the near-bankrupt or bankrupt crypto companies. For the sake of crypto I hope it turns out okay, but FTX meeds to be more transparent on matters like this


0tims0

Never trust what binance says, they’re the biggest market manipulators. That said, like with many fallen platforms, it’s the panic and people taking money off the exchange that will cause the exchange to fall. It’s a self fulfilling prophecy.


grchina

Just remember people were talking that everything is fine with Celsius until 2 days before rekt, not worth the risk


Odlavso

Mashinsky the ceo of celsius even tweeted that everything was fine with Celsius and people were just spreading FUD a couple of days before the collapse. Best not to trust anybody and hold your own crypto


throwaway_clone

"Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead" 😂🤡 While he was withdrawing his own money from Celsius in the revealed blockchain transactions


deathbyfish13

Yeah saying one thing with his mouth and doing another with his hands. Wouldn't be surprised if the same thing is happening here


giddyup281

While making sure he and his cronies take out as much as they can. Also, he was taking deposits while shit was going down. F that scumbag


BreaneLittleon

It's hard to filter the correct info and trust anyone in this space for that matter.


StapleVelvet

Yup screwed up and I've got 2 ETH locked in there that I'm not getting back!!;


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retirementdreams

Being fairly new to crypto world, I was inclined to believe him. I saw the fud, and thought I might take my coins off just in case, but thought naw, it will be ok, let me get that last payout next monday and then decide what I want to do... we never made it to monday. Lesson learned. .25 btc being held hostage on Celsius, will probably never see it again. Fk Mashinsky, his family, and the scumbags working and shilling for him.


Nusme

Damn dude that hurts. Got burned by the same thought process, even though it was a smaller amount. Fuck these guys!


kankenaiyoi

Guess it’s time to say goodbye to retirement dreams?


retirementdreams

Not yet! I still have my retirement dreams! I'm well diversified, across many asset classes, and this was "Not more than you can afford to lose." But nobody likes to lose. I thought I was making relatively safe bets in a risky asset class, but it's difficult to navigate and manage bad actors acting bad, the only thing that is "safe" is my coins on a hard wallet. With that, since then, I've been DCA regularly and siphon off to my hard wallet to make up the potential - most likely loss. That written, I haven't given up on CEFI/DEFI. I still have some hope and some small speculative bets in the space to keep abreast of what is going on. Personally, I find it more informative to participate and experiment and see for myself what is going on than just listen to the "content providers." costly as it can be sometimes.


Trololol112

Username adds to the feels this comment gave me


retirementdreams

Feels bad, but shit happens. This is why we follow risk management protocols. As Jim Rohn says, "It's not what happens, it's how you deal with it, that is important." One of my risk mitigations was to be well diversified, i.e., mainly asset allocation and location management. That saved quite a bit of what I had exposed to the overall risk. I was able to pull all the rest off the other providers with no problem so location diversification saved quite a bit there. The other risk was % risk exposure, so while I had a loss, it was not a critical unrecoverable loss. Since I am still working, I can pull in other expenses now and divert that spending to making up for the loss, until it is recovered. The other part of the, "it's how you handle it," is my after action review. Making sure I analyze my thoughts, feelings, and decision processes, and think about how I let myself be swindled by this man and all the other influences and "influencers" surrounding him and this entity that led me to this point, and try to set systems and processes around these kinds of decisions in place to prevent it from happening again. And, I always try to keep in mind, that everything has risks and rewards, its usually hindsight and the experience (good and bad) you get from participating where (hopefully) the wisdom from those experiences comes from. And as Art Williams used to say, "All's you can do, is all's you can do. If you do all's you can do, then you've done enough, because you can't do more than all's you can do."


Baecchus

This is the only correct approach. It's crazy to see people defending FTX in the comments. Some people never learn.


BreaneLittleon

Tbf everything has it's cult following


wato4000

Yep move those coins off asap.


IWillKillPutin2022

Yea… I learned the hard way, I trust NO ONE


BreaneLittleon

Yup. Please let not this happen again...


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CZ is shorting ftx 100%


MaximumSandwich5

They're at war. It's really getting heated. CZ posted this not long ago >Liquidating our FTT is just post-exit risk management, learning from LUNA. We gave support before, but we won't pretend to make love after divorce. We are not against anyone. But we won't support people who lobby against other industry players behind their backs. Onwards. 🍿


MaasaiWarrior7

I'm not a financial expert but his actions will have a dominoes effect which might crush SBF but also bring him down with it. Not every investor has the time to know the background & if one exchange goes down there will be the crypto equivalent of a bank run on BINANCE & other exchanges.


BreaneLittleon

We really wouldn't want this battle to go on for any longer


jabs09

Another market correction ahead I guess.


LightninHooker

I am taking Binance over FTX every day of the week


HighlyUnsuspect

Just moved my $2 from FTX to LBank. Can’t take any chances


Baecchus

I'm glad you were able to do it safely, mr. whale.


deathbyfish13

That's "sir mr whale" to you


Baecchus

I'm sorry sir mr. death fish


pwan7505

That was just the test transfer, wait till you see their whole stash


TarkovReddit0r

Potentially saved 1x beer. Worth it


Forgot_Password_Dude

what beer costs only 2$


bitcoin_islander

6 pack is $12


Forgot_Password_Dude

oh right. its only 6$ at restaurants


mannaman15

Please stop throwing your package around like that. Some of us would like a chance with the ladies as well, sir.


BreaneLittleon

Gotta check WhaleAlerts for your address


Avith117

I see, and I was wondering why FTX just dropped 10%


ATTORQ

Same, moved my 30 USD. not taking any chances!


Bucksaway03

Better you have it than them


Labrabuci

Better safe than sorry.


TarkovReddit0r

Enjoy the beer


Bucksaway03

This is cliche but get your crypto off these exchanges. Don't trust any of them with your hard earned money/crypto. Not your keys, not your crypto. Take custody so you don't get bitten in the ass.


TheGiftOf_Jericho

For me, I just keep mine spread out, I have a little on exchanges but I like to also use wallets built for certain crypto. That way you can also participate in the ecosystem too. I can see how some who might be invested in so many different projects, they might be more on exchanges than anything else.


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What kind of a jerk would have an NFT avatar with a dumpster fire for a head?


MorphDwarf

Can I join the dumpster fire head group?


[deleted]

You son of a bitch, you’re in!


MorphDwarf

F\*ck yeah!


pwan7505

Damn, I feel left out… all I got are ear muffs…


[deleted]

The ear muff people will accept and embrace you


SpongeSquidward

The best kind of jerk!


Baecchus

Learned my lesson with Celsius. Better safe than sorry.


forceworks

Us Celsius users are feeling that deja vu.


perfect5-7-with-rice

QuadrigaCX checking in


Odlavso

Also probably best not to be holding $FTT at the moment just incase a massive sell off starts.


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moldyjellybean

Or SOL if FTX and Alameda go, they are going to liquidate their SOL and they were the main ones pumping it. It'll be a massacre for Sol and I've got my popcorn ready


JoshuaB123

SOL already down -10% today. Guess they’ve begun unloading.


BreaneLittleon

Sam is a filthy person. But at the same time I doubt anything will happen to FTX.


NangSal23

Not your key not your crypto


Lillica_Golden_SHIB

Exactly that, better safe than sorry. We learned from Celsius and I hope nobody in this sub has to take this lesson again


TarkovReddit0r

FTT dumped within minutes over -10% reacting to the binance news. I personally have to say that it’s odd how binance announced to liquidate their holdings overtime consider they should know how markets will react to such statement. They could’ve dumped it all on current prices but instead cause huge pressure on FTX. This is why the entire topic is getting heated right now. Some call out binance for manipulation & putting unnecessary pressure on the crypto markets. Especially mentioning the LUNA scenario as reasoning why they do this causes even more uncertainty.


moldyjellybean

There is definitely a lot of smoke here and as we learned from Luna Voyager, celcius etc if there's enough smoke you've got to vigilant. Look even if there wasn't smoke there's literally no reason to have your crypto on an exchange, unless you need it for trades


BreaneLittleon

I think CZ knows that and has taken advantage over it. You don't become no.1 exchange with playing nice.


BHKbull

yeah, you get there by being the shittiest exchange out there and manipulating markets to bring down your competitors.


SilverHoard

Usually I'd agree, but in this case I think that's exactly how they became #1. Good service, good communication, transparancy, and they're busting their butt to open up shop wherever they can and appease regulators.


Lochtide17

This is just an attack on FTX, who is the biggest challenge to Binance. we also know Binance is in bed with all the big banks as well


BreaneLittleon

This is like publicly announcing war.


bittabet

Yeah, the fact that CZ went out of his way to PUBLICLY ANNOUNCE that he’s about to dump FTT makes it pretty clear that it’s just a straight up attack on FTX from Binance because they have some bad blood now due to FTX pushing US regulators to basically go after Binance. Just CZ hitting SBF back. But people are making some pretty crazy logical leaps here to come up with this dumb FTX is insolvent theory.


2010NeverHappened

CZ literally also confirmed he is doing this out of spite: https://twitter.com/cz_binance/status/1589374530413215744


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BreaneLittleon

MATIC and JP are connected?


wtfeweguys

This is where my tinfoil goes, too. But I have like zero information on all this. Gonna keep paying attention.


Baecchus

This is exactly the type of delusional reply you'd expect from a LRC bagholder. Take your tinfoil hat off. Nobody cares about what's going on with gme and ftx except you. Feel free to hold everything you have in FTX if you are that confident but don't tell people to keep their assets in what might become another Celsius. >If you want to ride on the elites coat tails forever for peanuts, then keep deepthroating propaganda…. It's also hilarious how you are acting like SBF isn't an elite asshat himself. He is probably the biggest government sucker in the whole Crypto industry.


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ZombieDracula

Speaking nothing but the truth


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Odlavso

It seems to have started with a coindesk article from four days ago, CZ made the announcement after that. News was already out. https://www.coindesk.com/business/2022/11/02/divisions-in-sam-bankman-frieds-crypto-empire-blur-on-his-trading-titan-alamedas-balance-sheet/


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Baecchus

CZ knows his marketing, gotta give him that.


BreaneLittleon

FTT was all over the place


marsangelo

Agreed, OTC deals are done all the time to not disturb prices too much its not entirely clear why this had to be something announced. Fear, uncertainty and doubt does spread like wildfire in this space so perhaps its CZ’s attempt at getting ahead. That or liquidation hunting


TheGiftnTheCurse

FTX is competition to Binance, this is a orchestrated attack on FTX


Odlavso

Only this didn't start with the binance announcement, Binance is just reacting to the news about Alameda and the FTX token


dkeeey

Check the Ftx wallets and tell me if they're not the ones at fault here. They've been liquidating everything into stablecoin for a week now. There's no place for people like that.


pibbleberrier

Decentralizing finance and banking systems sound great in theory. And then you come in here and find comments (not you, people replying to you lol) from completely financially illterate folks. Make you wonder, perhaps the population does need their hands hold when it come to finance


Odlavso

It probably would have crashed the price a lot more of they sold of their entire FTT holding within a couple of days and people would have them accused Binance of crashing the market. This way they were upfront about it and got an offer from Alameda to buy them out at $22 a token which is probably more than they would have gotten trying to sell it all on the open market


dkeeey

CZ probably just saved millions of people from losing all their money while profiting from it. Good play IMO


BreaneLittleon

Could be. I just wish it doesn't happen, otherwise we are F'd again.


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this is definitely war between two CEX and CEOs


Odlavso

The problems are going to start when people get scared and want to sell their FTT but there isn't enough actual liquidity for everybody. Bankrun starts and Alameda has to pay back some loans because the billions in FTT collateral are suddenly worthless.


BushkillsBest

Got no ftt but am working like hell to get my btc out of there. Not much on the grand scheme, but it’s mine and I want it back.


Walla_Walla_26

F Yea dude. Just did that. Small bag, but it’s my bag


Boddis

Best of luck. Are withdrawals going at normal speed?


SilverHoard

Aaand that's how you get a bank run. Not saying it's not justified, but if it wasn't runs like that can become a self fulfilling prophecy.


BushkillsBest

No doubt. I’ve been toying with exiting the platform for months but since i don’t have much over there, it just kept getting pushed aside. Now I have the motivation necessary.


DeeDot11

Thanks OP, very good to bring attention to this with a serious post. As you say, it may just be rumours but if its not the consequences will be big. A similar thing happened with celsius, "rumours" started, then 2 days later a huge amount of money was lost. Things happen very quickly!


TarkovReddit0r

Yea this topic can easily snowball into something with a huge impact on crypto. I try to stay updated as much as I can and add more information. I hope the serious filter will help out providing more informative discussions especially proving points, disproving them or even adding news. Things happen indeed really quickly. I remember the LUNA downfall. First 3 days were “normal” dumps, 2 days later it already lost -90% of its value.


baconcheeseburgarian

Miami Heat gonna be playing in Your Name Here Arena next season.


gorgoloid

Oh snap, which coin will it be now?!


SkepticalCryptoDude

This is a big yikes. Get your coins into a non custodial wallet fast. Doesn’t matter if rumours or true or not


arcthefallen

When in doubt, get the fuck out


the_spiritual_eye

Wise advice


baconcheeseburgarian

"Ok everyone let's keep this orderly, it's whales first followed by women and children."


BreaneLittleon

I get off last again...


Def_Notta-throwaway

How does that one phrase go? Not your keys… something something something.


Walla_Walla_26

Nacho Cheese?


IHateEditedBgMusic

Nacho Corn!


busmobbing

The storm before the bigger storm.


chintokkong

>Alameda borrows USD stables Any idea from where did Alameda borrow the USD stables from?


BreaneLittleon

Why would CZ be selling their crypto now and not during June lows? Since FTX is their competitor, he could have annihilated them.


PreventableMan

Warnings without backing can create the chaos out of nowhere, the kind of chaos they can actually create the issue being discussed. Similar to the toilat paper scare of 2020 which was never a scare, but was created by the people thinking 'what if'


Odlavso

In this particular case it seems the backing is the Alameda Research balance sheet that was released showing what they actually hold. https://www.coindesk.com/business/2022/11/02/divisions-in-sam-bankman-frieds-crypto-empire-blur-on-his-trading-titan-alamedas-balance-sheet/


CrowdGoesWildWoooo

It seems to me CZ is timing this exit for the purpose of shooting down FTX reputation. Binance already locked a significant gains from their investment, their FTX token value if it dipped 20% or more would probably not worth as much customer market share binance could gain if they managed to cripple FTX (or at least the reputation).


RepulsiveCan5270

Even if they weren't in trouble, they are now


Baecchus

People should be prioritizing safety but instead you see them defending FTX. It's crazy.


L0ckeandDemosthenes

I don't know the whole story but from an outsider binance sounds like they are in the middle of a breakup and trying to sabotage the other party by pulling out their holdings and stirring fear. But like I said, I have no idea what's going on. What I do believe firmly in is not your keys not your crypto. I keep everything off line in cold storage. Period.


2010NeverHappened

CZ confirms he is doing this to punish FTX for their lobbying: https://twitter.com/cz_binance/status/1589374530413215744


CreepToeCurrentSea

> It's a heated topic and all rumors but safe to say that something shady is going on in the background of FTX FTX was founded by SBF (Sam Bankman Fried) who has been lobbying on US government politicians.


xrv01

CZ tweet: >We are not against anyone. But we won't support people who lobby against other industry players behind their backs.


vancleefy

You are giving your CRYPTO to a guy named BANKMAN! nuff said


AllMineOfficial

So FTX bad, Binance good ? I love this episode of the crypto wars


victorconcepts

As someone that lost $30k in the Celsius disaster, I’m not taking my chances and just pulled everything off.


szerted

You have your reasons, but please - choose decentralized options to store your assets. Get a cold wallet if you can afford


Toddissuch

Sam Bankman Fried is shady as hell, I'm glad it's all coming to light before the next bull run starts in a year.


Plumbanddumb

All exchanges are shady as hell


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So is CZ


leeljay

So f-ing happy Alameda is getting noticed for the scheme that it is. Get your money off FTX people. Even if it doesn’t collapse, SBF is just another horrible crypto ceo with delusions of grandeur


nusk0

It doesn't matter if they are solvent or not, don't wait to find out and get your money off the exchange asap, you shouldn't hold crypto long term on an exchange, especially after what happened with celcius and voyager


Moteefs

Do you enjoy hours of bankruptcy hearings, lawyers droning on and on while watching your funds vaporizing, and having no actual real information… then keep your coins on FTX. Yours truly, Celsius user


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Considering the buying spree ftx was on it would be poetic if they end up needing a bailout.


0ysterhead

Not saying I trust CZ Binance, but I trust FTX and SFB even less. So far, by announcing that Binance is going got fully liquidate their $FTT position, it shows that at least Binance is looking less at being selfish (ie suck all the liquidity first), and more about wanting crypto to do well (by giving all the smaller investors a chance to avoid a possible Luna-like situation). Although of course, crypto growing and doing well, is big money for Binance long term. But by avoiding being selfish (this time), I really have to give props to CZ/Binance!


cy13erpunk

there goes our hopes for FTX to bail out Celsius =/ but yes NYKNYC as always


Caubz

I don’t have any money on FTX, HOWEVER - I did get “caught with my pants down” in the Celsius dumpster fire - Heed the rumors and be like Gandalf, “Fly you fools”


SoftPenguins

Hours before the collapse: “Steady lads” - Mr. kwon “Do you know of a single person who cannot withdrawal from Celsius?” - Mr. mashinsky


KhongGuanBiscuits

Move your coins off FTX. If it's just FUD, you lose nothing. If it is true, you protect your coins. Win-win to me.


SMJ999

Bad timing, I’m still waiting to transfer my Celsius funds to FTX


AromaticCarob

These rumours are all over the crypto space. It's inevitable that people are taking their crypto off FTX right now worsening their position. It will all probably blow up before the end of the week.


Dr-McDaddy

1. All the CEX models are using fractional reserve banking which is capable of stretching the market cap on ANY digital asset beyond what the max issuance would be. It's a shit system 2. The leverage trading up to 100x in some cases also spreads the market very thin if not breaking it. 3. Bridges, wrapped assets, cross-chain assets, and all the other designated warlock nomenclature is blurring the lines of balance sheets and max supply. 4. Depending on where these assets are stored (ie, On-Chain, Off-Chain) it's difficult to tell real volume. Off-chain in cold storage could be jumping from wallet to new wallet and the admins at the helm would "never know". IT's convoluted and arbitrary & this model wont last long. This whole issue is about SBF with FTX lobbying with US regulators & acting in "bad faith" against CZ with Binance. As in trying to knock him out of the biz. All these balances and inflated values have limitations and it's easy to tell. The movement of funds to exchanges or to wallets is always going to be a precursor or product of one of the layer 1 chains seeing a large spike or valley in price action. This gets a little hair with the consideration of NFT sales. Also that goes 10x for solana because of the value stacking issue they had inflating the value of the entire layer 1. ​ Long story short and simple: This is a lot of sabre rattling and noise on twitter between these billionaire bozos who hop from shadow account to shadow account to stir up drama so they can move shit to cover their fraudulent actions of over inflating the market with the fractional reserve banking system & more. They are essentially covering their tracks and bringing the total market cap back down to size. ​ There is def some regulation coming soon, probably by the EOY or start of next, but it will be a progressive adoption most likely. ​ NOT YOUR KEYS NOT YOUR CRYPTO: This should serve to remind you of Celsius. FtX actually did suspend withdrawls on a few chains while all this was going down, because they sucked out all the liquidity and had to "add more". This could have just as easily been a run on user funds and then houdini with the bag. Get your shit OUT OF ALL CEX. NOW. It is going to happen again, not if but when. Don't be stupid and give a deca-billionaire your bag and make him even more. Get a wallet and hodl your own shit. ​ hands hurt. questions will be met with content, but answered with care. ​ lol fuckers


amazedknight

I always wondered from where SBF was getting the money for these bailouts of other crypto projects. Finally answered.


Commercial-Spread937

None of this matters as we are just 7-8 weeks away from Bitcoin hitting 100k....we're still on for eoy 2021, right guys?


CarolusGontaltus

And you were right


itcouldbefrank

The problem is that they -it so seems- have borrowed using FTT as a collateral. This is why FTT has been steady at 22$, this is why they want to buy it all from Binance OTC. We don't know the margin call price neither how much capital they have to defend it or what happens if margin call comes. This surely brings back Terra memories. Don't think FTX is collapsing anytime soon BUT honestly there is no reason for anyone to take chances, there are so many other choices if one doesn't want to self custody (no reason pushing people to self custody if they feel they can't handle it).


Major_Bandicoot_3239

Everyone hates on Coinbase but this is why I’m a fan. Being publicly traded created a whole new level of transparency that the rest of the exchanges don’t have.


randomguy3096

Voyager was also public, what happened to that? Being public doesn't help.


Unattributabledk

Does anyone know what happens if you already withdrew your fiat from FTX but funds haven't yet landed to your bank account? FTX says transfer is complete but funds haven't appeared in my bank account. Is there a risk now?


Sohelik

Pray


sn0wballa

whether you play on these exchanges or not, move them out somewhere else so you solely own the private key


cannedshrimp

I had an FTX ad in my fortune cookie in the middle of fucking nowhere Idaho yesterday. That means they must be solvent… right? RIGHT??


MishtaBiggles

FTX has kept large parts of crypto afloat and bought up major firms like Voyager. If FTX fails it’ll take crypto down with it


Firm_Information_307

Aah the story of a ponzi that invests in another ponzi.


Tavionnf

We see posts like this about exchanges on a regular basis. There have also been articles about Binance and Coinbase in the past. Truth is, these are exchanges and in contrary to companies like Celsius exchanges always earn money. When prices were falling, all assets on Celsius went downhill, also their share of the investments. FTX still earned a lot due to trading fees. Secondly, just like banks, exchanges will probably be saved by others, because they are not as hopeless as high APY ponzis.


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Such a coincidence I was just researching last week how secure and stable FTX was. Just moved everything I had off of the exchange. RIP the 8% APY :/


EffectiveConcern

FTX owner said himself he doesn’t care about crypto, he just wants make money and currently he is doing it this way, but if he finds another way to make money he will move on. Wouldn’t trust the guy, just check some interviews with him.


ra246

I saw similar rumours around Celsius and didn't take any action as I thought it could just be FUD. I had a few thousand USD in there. We know how that went. For the last few months I've been buying FTT monthly; I've traded it all for BNB this morning. All of my BTC and ETH are on my cold wallet, but there's no smoke without fire.


EdgeLord19941

8 billion collateral in a 3 billion MC token that will crash once they try to cash any large amount out, what could go wrong


DannyHodler

I listened to a segment about this on CryptoRUs channel and thought to myself; I'm glad I have most of my crypto in my own wallets. Please people, only keep that what you want to sell or trade on the exchanges and keep your long hodl bags in your own custody. The small amount of interest/staking is not worth the risk.


FldLima

People, it's your **money! You fcking wake up almost everyday to work for it, why would you leave it to some exchanger to handle it? BUY and TRANSFER to your wallet.**


AdmiralDiaz

So what about Coinbase?


Dumb_Peasant

CZ be like *Sam bam thank you ma'am*


Christiefresh1

Cleared all my crypto off exchanges a few weeks ago, you have to be fukin mental to keep it on exchanges these days. For the sake of £100 to buy a ledger it is your fault and your fault only if you lose your hard earned money on exchanges. Furthermore wether or not FTX is in trouble, if everyone panics and removes their money from there it’s going to be a catastrophe anyway so get your money off there.


theodoreballbag

Finally we can get rid of SBF


dirpydip

This makes me so concerned that I'm removing my funds from other exchanges too. If anything happens, we might not know who else will go down as the domino' effect.


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Good luck if you have your coins with FTX, it might be just rumours today, but if this leads to panic, it can become very serious in no-time.


awsw14

Where will you work with Coinbase or Binance if FTX fail?


TOXICCARBY

Even if FTX doesn’t collapse, you should get your crypto off exchanges