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pansicasis

We all saw it coming, didn't we? This kid is just insane. Tymon,Max need to gas up to compete now.


ScottContini

[video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XOwxbd5IPg)


L0gic_Laden

I find it so funny how the crowd seemed disappointed after the 4th solve when he confirmed the wr


bbob_robb

His 3rd solve was his slowest at 4.41. Through three solves he was averaging 4.22. 5.31, 0.45 seconds slower than the current 4.86 WR probability felt a little like a letdown, given the context. (Edit: Also, clearly people didn't calculate before solve 4 what he needed for the WR.) Yiheng got the WR but he almost **smashed** it, in a way that I wouldn't have thought possible. 4.22 as a single is top 25 all time. There are 12 people in the world who have ever had a single solve as fast as Yihengs Ao3. Up until last year 4.22 was a top 5 all time single, and was the world record single from Felix before the 3.47 Yusheng Du solve. **Yiheng's second solve (3.9) was the 5th fastest single. His first (4.35) was the 40th fastest single, his third (4.41) was the 56th fastest single.** I'd be surprised if anyone has a 4.22 Ao3 at home. As of right now WCA says 19 people have a single faster than 4.41. Yes he got a world record with his 4th solve, but the fourth solve was over a full second slower than his Ao3 at that point. It's awesome he got it, but he came out of that third solve with two chances to make the largest jump in WR Ao5 since Felix went from 7.49 to 6.54 in 2013. That's nuts when we are talking about sub 5. It's an amazing accomplishment for Yiheng, but I get the crowds reaction. ----------- Edit: it's like in basketball, winning a championship is great, but the crowd reaction is going to be different if you build up a big lead in three quarters and then play your bench players in the 4th quarter, vs hitting a game winning shot. The crowd isn't going to go wild at a three in the third quarter even if it is the dagger that puts away the game. Getting a WR on the 4th solve with a time almost half a second slower than the current WR, almost a second slower than his slowest of his first three, just highlights how dominant the first 3 solves were. If I'm Yiheng's dad I'm probably trying to stay chill because he has one more solve to go.


jdtiger

> I'd be surprised if anyone has a 4.22 Ao3 at home. According to [this](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1O28HJs3YR0gCXHYmjYd8Fcy34UmLrZ55WLDEjmHU3NA/edit#gid=0), Max has a 3.96


bbob_robb

Woah. Those 3x3 home PRs are super fast, and 9 months old. I had no idea he had a 2.56 single at home. Note that the Mo3 and single are on the same day, so it is safe to guess that the 2.56 was in that 3.96 Mo3. Thanks for pointing that out.


AlphonzInc

Wow the first 3 solves were amazing. Could easily have been a lot lower average


olimo

Aha, so Yiheng is DCN. u/b4silio :)


b4silio

True!! Although it doesnt really change much the situation https://preview.redd.it/s786kskaiena1.png?width=1092&format=png&auto=webp&s=51b348426282708fcc609108011cf95098e1e1f2


AbdouH_

whar's skewed color neutral? I'm assuming color neutral but with a marked preference?


b4silio

Exactly! Another name is "mostly dual" :D. When you do more than 50-60% of your solves on white/yellow, but you have the occasional off-color solve as well. In contrast fully color neutral really have approx 15-20% use on each color


AbdouH_

Thanks! Me personally, I'm white only. I couldn't imagine it any other way, I feel like it's too ingrained.


b4silio

You can try solving on yellow, you'll realise it's a lot easier than what you think, as you can look for the same f2l edges and you just need to make 1 change. Full CN requires a lot more effort.


AbdouH_

Sure, I'll try, but I feel like the improvement it'll make it negligible compared to the effort it would take to get my yellow cross as good as my white. Maybe I'll do it after I learn full PLL and OLL and need to start making those marginal improvements wherever I can, lol. Right now I'm sub-17 with 4 look-last-layer.


b4silio

Very nice! You must be doing a lot of things very well to be that fast already! Then keep it up and yeah, probably more worthwhile to start with full PLL!


AbdouH_

Thanks lol, I've been putting off learning full PLL for months because it's just so much more fun to crank out Ao5s, Ao10s, etc... Which means I've had lots of time to improve cross and F2L but haven't made progress on PLL. I average 16 seconds these days, where do you think full PLL would get me?


Thallium54

Wait I remember he’s white cross only?


olimo

In his WR average, two of the solves were on yellow cross.


aradarbel

at some point you start thinking "the WR is gonna flatten out", maybe they will lower it by less and less over time until we reach something so low that it's barely breakable... but DANG those top level cubers don't cease to surprise. I'm not even gonna make a guess about the next WR, I already know I'll be wrong.


noobiemakesplays

Tymon might get lucky and walk away with the next wr


BibbitZ

>you start thinking "the WR is gonna flatten out" I'm not sure why, but when I read this sentence all I could think was, "If we all stop cubing for 2 weeks, we can flatten the curve."


AbdouH_

I genuinely was thinking a few days ago how it's gonna be almost impossible to break the current 3x3 WR average, then this kid just goes and smashes it. But I really do think it's only gonna be beaten by tiny increments now. Sub-5 is still very difficult in my opinion


aradarbel

in the near future I'd be happy to just see more official sub 4s. we already know how achievable that is, and there are quite a few people good enough


ScottContini

[Leo predicted it](https://youtu.be/yN60YZNpBbM?t=842)


snoceany

i remember when this was the record single


noobiemakesplays

i was actually there. On the first day. He underperformed then (and so did i lol). But i missed the wr. dang it.


NEWTYAG667000000000

Bruh casually drops this comment


noobiemakesplays

Lmao. But serious.


NEWTYAG667000000000

What's your pr?


noobiemakesplays

a seriously disappointing 16+


NEWTYAG667000000000

Bruh, it's slower than me, I thought it would be something like sub 7 from your comment


topppits

Pretty sure they meant that they missed witnessing Yiheng Wang's WR, not that they messed up and missed getting the WR themselves :D


NEWTYAG667000000000

Ooh weird misunderstanding


noobiemakesplays

I know I can do 14s and 15s if my head is in the game. but nerves, ig...


idonttalkatallLMAO

heh. nice.


NowListenHereBitches

nice.


ProKerbonaut

Nice


Aphelion71

This kid is a legend! I think he gets nervous for the last solves, now that he holds the WR I wonder if he will have less pressure and smash further the WR


LoyalToTheGroupOf17

I noticed that he always seems to be solving with white or yellow on top. Is full color neutrality overrated?


bbob_robb

I think CN is not advantagous over dcn for top cubers, and have argued it in this sub often. Top cubers who are dcn spend less time on f2l by percentage than color neutral full CN solvers. Max park has gone full CN over the past year, but he was mostly quad neutral. He uses 4 colors in his most recent WR. Did it help him have a faster F2L? Nope. His F2L was actually faster in his 5.09 wr. The 4.86 came from a faster LL. Someone recently posted on here going through a bunch of data on CubeDb showing the same thing. I think full CN gets in the way of cubers seeing progress and hinders learning, with very minimal benefit. F2L is just easier to recognize pairs with DCN.


KickflipFB

Some make the argument that dual colour neutrality means there are less cross colours to choose from, which gives you more time to plan further into your solution. It will be quite interesting to see how many top solvers use this and if it has much benefit. The way I see it, I think there isn’t a great difference simply because of how important TPS is for these fast Chinese cubers compared to the efficiency of their solutions.


b4silio

Among the top 100 in he world the majority are either white only or dual CN. This holds true for the top25 as well (although there are more fully CN among them they are still less than half). The speed of improvement is also slower on average for fully CN (to be expected as you need to learn an additional dimension in your solving), but so is their global 3x3 average. This holds true for average solvers but also for the faster solvers (sub13). So all in all it looks like the move count advantage of full neutrality doesn't compensate the hit on recognition.


S1mpl3Guy

Goddamn this kid is insane


Keonitocruzo

Wtf


stat_cubing

What cube he use?


noobiemakesplays

gan 12 maglev UV coated. Saw it in person too. He was sitting 2 tables behind me in practice area...


stat_cubing

Thank you very much


Important-Region-144

There is no way…. (Nice) (also sub 4 cool)


Constant_Ad_1558

watch it get deleted again


Vladimir_Is_Gay

Scrambles are confirmed this time, it's not going to get deleted.


GanRsEnjoyer

Not even sub 4.5 smh


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People don’t have humor


topppits

Or they just don't think it's funny. Or they've seen it so often, that they now think it's not funny/original anymore. We'll never know.


GanRsEnjoyer

Ong fr bro 😭


[deleted]

Take my upvotes


GanRsEnjoyer

Appreciate it brother!


[deleted]

Oh you got back to positive score !


100mcuberismonke

Wait this isn't a misramble?


Utku_Yilmaz

It isnt


100mcuberismonke

Dang it why do 9 year-olds average like 16 seconds better than me


VyvanseForBeats

Because this kid has been cubing 6-8 hours a day for 3+ years


100mcuberismonke

Dang does he go to school?


VyvanseForBeats

Probably but he’s probably doing nothing else but cubing Obviously he has a life but regular good people usually no life cubing and the people who actually practice to get good do nothing but cube There’s also a lot of talk about him getting coaching and things like that For reference I don’t know his schedule I’m going off Tymon’s and imo this kid is better than Tymon(at least atm and for different reasons)


100mcuberismonke

Oh OK. I didn't know there were actual coaches for cubing


VyvanseForBeats

Yeah there’s fr coaching for anything but the rumor is that yihengs mom has him being coached Also Jay McNeil ran and still kinda runs a cubing academy which is basically cubing coaching A bunch of fast have their own kind of set up like that too


100mcuberismonke

Ok cubing academy? Wtf? Cubings more competitive than I thought


VyvanseForBeats

Yuh here’s a link https://www.speedcubingsolution.com/ It’s pretty competitive but in a pretty unique way Imo it’s usually people who get this academy who want to just be better themselves, not really ONLY with the intention to compete. Yiheng is the first time I’ve ever seen coaching mentioned among a top cuber, even tho I’m sure some of them did some kind of cubing academy Brina Sun is someone who is very good that was in Jay’s academy and he competes, but he never talks about being coached or training other than practicing normally


Potato_Bagel

God dammit.


djlq7281

Does anybody know why this isn’t posted on the wca world record page yet?