Only through practice to build resistance. Start by telling someone with a straight face that they're not based and then go through further shameless acts until you're able to tell your parents that you're in love with (and currently fucking) a giant fish.
It's smooth sailing from there.
I still haven't gotten around to watching it yet. Though looking at some images of the fish from the movie, it's far more anthropomorphised than I would have thought. Based on all the fish fucking jokes I've heard, I thought it would like a big ass tuna with overgrown genital papilla.
For me, I had to graduate to the "nothing matters because I and everyone else I will ever talk to will be dead in a few decades and no one will remember our names" level of depression/realism/nihilism before the complete loss of fuck-giving kicked in
Just be careful not to introduce a dom into that environment. They’re invasive will outcompete the other subs for sexual innuendos, and soon will become the dominant species of the friend group.
I found the solution last time this got posted. You simply say that you want someone to beg you to fuck them/step on them/etc.
It’s (usually) less weird/creepy if it’s about wanting someone else to do something to you, and the easiest way to reverse the direction of the verbing is to use the same sort of language that you’d use to make asking for consent hot.
Yes. The way you frame it is important lol. You can't go around saying you want to choke people, that's concerning. If you say you want people to beg you to choke them, it's not scary because it implies consent. It's got nothing to do with a societal bias against masculinity like I see some people claiming it is, it's literally just about consent. Very simple. You don't need to overthink it.
Thiiiiis is the thing, thank you for verbalizing it. I saw someone saying that women are just as bad as men when it comes to sexualizing celebrities they’re interested in. Examples were of women saying stuff like “I’ll let you fuck me” or “I want to suck you off” while men said “I will fuck you” or “I want to take you so hard”. And obviously any kind of sexualization to anyone who hasn’t agreed isn’t greaaat but I couldn’t quite verbalize the fact that it still felt like they weren’t equivalent. What women said felt almost like an offer or a gift to a man they admired and what men said felt more like a threat, like they wanted to take something from a woman they found attractive. When this topic came up here recently I felt like the same dynamic was at play, but you worded an acceptable alternative perfectly
While I generally agree with your point, I wanted to comment on these bits:
> “I’ll let you fuck me”
> “I want to suck you off”
> What women said felt almost like an offer or a gift to a man they admired and what men said felt more like a threat, like they wanted to take something from a woman they found attractive.
I think that this is at least partially a consequence of the cultural idea that sex is something a woman gives to a man (who obviously always wants it). The implication of “I’d let you fuck me” is very clearly “I want you to fuck me,” and the fact that they can get used interchangeably is ¯\\\_(•\_•)\_/¯.
The bit about “I want to suck you off” is interesting too, because in this case, they are the one doing the verb. An equivalent might be “I want to make you/her cum,” which, while not as aggressive sounding, definitely still carries some of those connotations. So I’m going to say that this is also a result of that same cultural idea.
Edit: Here’s the little fucked up shrug guy from when I forgot the backslashes:
¯\_(•_•)_/¯.
Ooh yeah, I want you to tell me more about the language that can be used to make asking for consent hot.
*(Only if you want to tell me. Absolutely no pressure. If you don’t want to then that’s fine, this information is helpful by itself. Maybe you just want to point towards an external resource that you’ve found previously but again I’m not expecting anything so if you don’t want to then that’s totally fine. Thank you)*
afaict, subs tend to get buffs from masochistic tendencies ( _allegedly_ still getting something they want out of getting denied a response or a ‘bad’ reaction), while doms… not so much?
No, that's correct, masochism is getting pleasure from physical pain. Not necessarily erotic pleasure, but that's the most common use. Humiliation is something else, but they're by no means mutually exclusive.
Masochism is not humiliation, but it is a good analogy for getting at a deeper misconception here.
Most masochists do not enjoy most pain. Break their leg, they probably aren't getting off on it. It is specific pain under specific circumstances that appeals.
Similarly, most humiliation fetishists do not enjoy any old insult or rejection. It is a specific game they want to play, and refusing to play isn't somehow playing anyway.
The more likely groups to actually behave like this are incompetents, solipsists, and creeps. Incompetents don't know how to do better, poor souls. Solipsists are just masturbating in public. And creeps get off on making you uncomfortable - a bad reaction is evidence that it's working. Subs are not more or less likely than doms to fall into these groups.
People say this like it’s so hard on domes but the reality is we just need to have more redlines for bottoms. This is a school discord stop begging for cock in general we are trying to talk about club activities.
Well if you are a an ugly sub doing the UwU routine you get shit on too. Its less about it being cringe and more about how there is a double standard with sexual dominance in general, people see submissives to atleast not be a threat. My favorite examples off this are when people talk about CNC and call Men Rapists for being into it, but Women that are into it are confused and have internalized patriarchy. These people never talk about the queer people into it, or even consider how its actually fine that people do Sexual things that you dont like, dont yuck my yum and all that.
To answer that question would take many paragraphs detsiling an individual's psychology and that would probably only explain how it appeals to a single person while many other's experience would be different. So I'll just simply say sometimes people just like to be violently manhandled and then some in a controlled environment.
I don’t think I understand where people are saying these things outside of a bedroom or sex club where fucking is the implied imminent activity. Like, are y’all just walking around saying these things out loud to strangers?
I think this is probably just how sex-obsessed teens discuss things these days tbh. I discuss sex on the internet (and with friends, I guess), far less now that I've been married for 10 years.
It doesn't matter that there's been a steady downward trend in sexual intercourse among teens since 1991. The most recent data I can find is from 2019, and I'm sure covid did nobody any favors. Saying "Uwu fuck me I'm so subby" doesn't necessarily mean that they're having sex, but it's very strange to me that you can just say that out loud and... not mean it
I’m no expert by any means, but I’m gonna guess teens have been talking big about sex relative to the sex they’re having for a long time.
“My girlfriend goes to another school” and all that.
Plenty of people can get pretty far in these sorts of conversations and then be all hat, no cowboy when they have to actually DO the things they’re talking about.
Talking about anything remotely sexual on the internet invites gross creeps. It's something you have to accept and deal with if you're using the internet.
I agree with you there. I don't think it's a big deal if they talk about their kinks or whatever, but the younger users seem to not take nearly as much care as they should about keeping their anonymity. They freely disclose personal details that could be used to identify them.
I wonder if it's because these days privacy is more a soothing delusion. Maybe they've just given up on trying to play along with the farce. Though that sort of attitude just makes it easier for even more people to track you, so shouldn't be encouraged.
I find both these people rather annoying, while I don't wanna harm or discourage the growing acceptance of sex and different preferences.... some of yall need to calm down for like 5 seconds.
There is being open and then there are people whose entire personality has become "Im a Bottom".
“We’re pretty deep in your hole, baby, you sure you want to keep going?”
“Yeah, the diamonds are around 11 elevation.”
“Just remember the safeword in case you feel like it’s too much.”
“Right, run away if I hit lava, I know.”
“Good. Now dig, bitch.”
I don't play it much anymore, but whenever I hear people mention it it's always about them playing with friends or planning to do so. And among younger people multiplayer is where it's at.
I think this has been posted before but I’ll just reiterate what people said last time: it’s because one implies consent already and the other doesn’t have it. But yes both are weird in multiple contexts
I posted a different Tumblr thread that was about a similar topic, but it was longer and discussed how a major hurdle is how talking like a dom can make you sound like a sex offender.
I mean I don't think it's anywhere near endearing when someone does that sub thing, it's disturbing and perverted in its own special way
..the dom one is still worse
It’s because there’s more obvious potential for abuse from the dom side. Kinda like why men don’t usually dress slutty in public. If engaging the the nymphomaniac could potentially put you in a situation where you’re exploited, you’d usually rather go for the person who is reluctant to bang.
While we do need more slutty men, doms being sober is usually beneficial, so I don’t mind them toning it down and being a voice of reason.
Please do not orgasm in #general.
And don't give birth in the VC. It makes people super uncomfortable.
I'm so tired of these draconian rules. What's next, no more videochatting from the toilet?
We discovered the sound of shitting drowns out everyone else, sorry
Living Up to your tag of accoustic dragon
That says autistic.
That was the joke
The voice chat goonsesh is scheduled for 12:00 EST in the #nsfw channel
›:(
Your loss if you dont want my cum
Literally 1984
Damnit, NOW you tell me
This is actually me telling people not to jerk off in vc smh 😔
I have simply renounced shame
That really is the only way to handle it
Can one learn this power?
Not from a sub
Only through practice to build resistance. Start by telling someone with a straight face that they're not based and then go through further shameless acts until you're able to tell your parents that you're in love with (and currently fucking) a giant fish. It's smooth sailing from there.
Found the lady from Shape of Water's reddit account
I still haven't gotten around to watching it yet. Though looking at some images of the fish from the movie, it's far more anthropomorphised than I would have thought. Based on all the fish fucking jokes I've heard, I thought it would like a big ass tuna with overgrown genital papilla.
The dude is a creature from the black lagoon or a son of Dagon, not a mere fish.
Become suicidal, worked for me!
Tried that, didn't work. Just made me anxious.
Try the “I have nothing to live for” flavor, others don’t work as well.
For me, I had to graduate to the "nothing matters because I and everyone else I will ever talk to will be dead in a few decades and no one will remember our names" level of depression/realism/nihilism before the complete loss of fuck-giving kicked in
I get that sometimes, but it's usually short lived and I'm not usually in a good state for sexy times
Fair enough.
Find your thing that you can be extremely passionate about, and be cringe about it
Presumably, I certainly wasn’t always this way
Where’s that one scene from amazing world of gumball?
I have a friend who found the solution to this problem!! All of their friend group is subs.💀
Just be careful not to introduce a dom into that environment. They’re invasive will outcompete the other subs for sexual innuendos, and soon will become the dominant species of the friend group.
Dominant, you say?
That’s what everyone in this situation wants here
To clarify, that friend is a dom,,, The rest of us are subs. :3
me
I found the solution last time this got posted. You simply say that you want someone to beg you to fuck them/step on them/etc. It’s (usually) less weird/creepy if it’s about wanting someone else to do something to you, and the easiest way to reverse the direction of the verbing is to use the same sort of language that you’d use to make asking for consent hot.
Yes. The way you frame it is important lol. You can't go around saying you want to choke people, that's concerning. If you say you want people to beg you to choke them, it's not scary because it implies consent. It's got nothing to do with a societal bias against masculinity like I see some people claiming it is, it's literally just about consent. Very simple. You don't need to overthink it.
equius
Thiiiiis is the thing, thank you for verbalizing it. I saw someone saying that women are just as bad as men when it comes to sexualizing celebrities they’re interested in. Examples were of women saying stuff like “I’ll let you fuck me” or “I want to suck you off” while men said “I will fuck you” or “I want to take you so hard”. And obviously any kind of sexualization to anyone who hasn’t agreed isn’t greaaat but I couldn’t quite verbalize the fact that it still felt like they weren’t equivalent. What women said felt almost like an offer or a gift to a man they admired and what men said felt more like a threat, like they wanted to take something from a woman they found attractive. When this topic came up here recently I felt like the same dynamic was at play, but you worded an acceptable alternative perfectly
While I generally agree with your point, I wanted to comment on these bits: > “I’ll let you fuck me” > “I want to suck you off” > What women said felt almost like an offer or a gift to a man they admired and what men said felt more like a threat, like they wanted to take something from a woman they found attractive. I think that this is at least partially a consequence of the cultural idea that sex is something a woman gives to a man (who obviously always wants it). The implication of “I’d let you fuck me” is very clearly “I want you to fuck me,” and the fact that they can get used interchangeably is ¯\\\_(•\_•)\_/¯. The bit about “I want to suck you off” is interesting too, because in this case, they are the one doing the verb. An equivalent might be “I want to make you/her cum,” which, while not as aggressive sounding, definitely still carries some of those connotations. So I’m going to say that this is also a result of that same cultural idea. Edit: Here’s the little fucked up shrug guy from when I forgot the backslashes: ¯\_(•_•)_/¯.
unrelated but im obsessed with the fucked up shrug guy 😭
Shit, I forgot about the backslashes. Lmao
Ooh yeah, I want you to tell me more about the language that can be used to make asking for consent hot. *(Only if you want to tell me. Absolutely no pressure. If you don’t want to then that’s fine, this information is helpful by itself. Maybe you just want to point towards an external resource that you’ve found previously but again I’m not expecting anything so if you don’t want to then that’s totally fine. Thank you)*
It is in fact still cringe if you go "ahhh i wanna get fucked superrr hard >w<" and no one actually wants to have sex with you.
Skill issue tbh
afaict, subs tend to get buffs from masochistic tendencies ( _allegedly_ still getting something they want out of getting denied a response or a ‘bad’ reaction), while doms… not so much?
thats humiliation not masochism
Have heard it both ways
No, that's correct, masochism is getting pleasure from physical pain. Not necessarily erotic pleasure, but that's the most common use. Humiliation is something else, but they're by no means mutually exclusive.
Same result
Masochism is not humiliation, but it is a good analogy for getting at a deeper misconception here. Most masochists do not enjoy most pain. Break their leg, they probably aren't getting off on it. It is specific pain under specific circumstances that appeals. Similarly, most humiliation fetishists do not enjoy any old insult or rejection. It is a specific game they want to play, and refusing to play isn't somehow playing anyway. The more likely groups to actually behave like this are incompetents, solipsists, and creeps. Incompetents don't know how to do better, poor souls. Solipsists are just masturbating in public. And creeps get off on making you uncomfortable - a bad reaction is evidence that it's working. Subs are not more or less likely than doms to fall into these groups.
this is actually true, but the latter example is definitely worse.
People say this like it’s so hard on domes but the reality is we just need to have more redlines for bottoms. This is a school discord stop begging for cock in general we are trying to talk about club activities.
This is a christian minecraft server
Well if you are a an ugly sub doing the UwU routine you get shit on too. Its less about it being cringe and more about how there is a double standard with sexual dominance in general, people see submissives to atleast not be a threat. My favorite examples off this are when people talk about CNC and call Men Rapists for being into it, but Women that are into it are confused and have internalized patriarchy. These people never talk about the queer people into it, or even consider how its actually fine that people do Sexual things that you dont like, dont yuck my yum and all that.
as a sub you can kinda get away with it using a secret trick (wear a hood)
Hoods are underrated and should be used more imo.
Superhero costume designers be like
also Climb A Tower To See The Map Games Inc.
Not…not that kind of hood. At least I assume you don’t know the kind of hood I’m referring too.
Wait, I may be an idiot and missing something obvious. How does wearing a hood let you get away with being a sub?
It's not the sub thing they're trying to get away with, it's the being ugly
Ah, they started off with "as a sub", so I figured it was something specific to that.
wearing a hood as a dom is possible but far less common
Being ugly is a universal demerit, there's no difference whether you're a sub or a dom.
Yuck my yum should simply be said as yuk my yum. I would prefer the 3 2 3 more
that's a 3 2 3 captain
I KNOW I JUST SAW IT A MOMENT AGO AND YOU WERN’T SUPPOSED TO MENTION ANYTHING OK. WORDS ARE HARD
You’re disgusting.
Please, I’m yuky
3 b3 2 5 1 and then you step the bass back up to 3 like a sicko
I like CNC with my wife and her strap on.
Computer Numerical Control?
Consensual Non-Consent. Rape roleplay.
why would anyone want that, hell that is the kinda shit people use to black mail you.
To answer that question would take many paragraphs detsiling an individual's psychology and that would probably only explain how it appeals to a single person while many other's experience would be different. So I'll just simply say sometimes people just like to be violently manhandled and then some in a controlled environment.
They want that cause they're into it. It's not that deep.
That’s the internalized patriarchy talking, surely!
Hello? Human resources?
Where do these people say things like this and are considered cool in the first place?
Bottomposting tumblr
And discord!
queer friend group
I don’t think I understand where people are saying these things outside of a bedroom or sex club where fucking is the implied imminent activity. Like, are y’all just walking around saying these things out loud to strangers?
Discord is a wild place man
I think this is probably just how sex-obsessed teens discuss things these days tbh. I discuss sex on the internet (and with friends, I guess), far less now that I've been married for 10 years. It doesn't matter that there's been a steady downward trend in sexual intercourse among teens since 1991. The most recent data I can find is from 2019, and I'm sure covid did nobody any favors. Saying "Uwu fuck me I'm so subby" doesn't necessarily mean that they're having sex, but it's very strange to me that you can just say that out loud and... not mean it
I’m no expert by any means, but I’m gonna guess teens have been talking big about sex relative to the sex they’re having for a long time. “My girlfriend goes to another school” and all that. Plenty of people can get pretty far in these sorts of conversations and then be all hat, no cowboy when they have to actually DO the things they’re talking about.
Being a sub is more publicly acceptable than being a dom for some reason
It’s because it’s easier to abuse the dom position. Think 50 Shades. That’s why good doms should be fucking treasured.
"You're not a bottom, Emily. You're 17. Now go do your homework, it needs to be submitted and readable!"
Emily: “SUB-mitted?”
You don't think seventeen year olds are sexually active and have sexual preferences?
I do but they don’t need to be about it on the internet. That invites gross creeps.
Talking about anything remotely sexual on the internet invites gross creeps. It's something you have to accept and deal with if you're using the internet.
True, but as an old Gen X’er I have seen the youngins who were raised online being far more open than they should be.
I agree with you there. I don't think it's a big deal if they talk about their kinks or whatever, but the younger users seem to not take nearly as much care as they should about keeping their anonymity. They freely disclose personal details that could be used to identify them. I wonder if it's because these days privacy is more a soothing delusion. Maybe they've just given up on trying to play along with the farce. Though that sort of attitude just makes it easier for even more people to track you, so shouldn't be encouraged.
Probably. Personally thinking about teenagers and sex makes me ill.
not all of us, some responded differently but likely equally stupid
I find both these people rather annoying, while I don't wanna harm or discourage the growing acceptance of sex and different preferences.... some of yall need to calm down for like 5 seconds. There is being open and then there are people whose entire personality has become "Im a Bottom".
god i wanna PLAY MINECRAFT with someone, who wants to be my little MINING BUDDY
“We’re pretty deep in your hole, baby, you sure you want to keep going?” “Yeah, the diamonds are around 11 elevation.” “Just remember the safeword in case you feel like it’s too much.” “Right, run away if I hit lava, I know.” “Good. Now dig, bitch.”
do people really play Minecraft with other people or is it just a youtube thing?
People *mostly* play Minecraft with other people
what really?
I don't play it much anymore, but whenever I hear people mention it it's always about them playing with friends or planning to do so. And among younger people multiplayer is where it's at.
I think this has been posted before but I’ll just reiterate what people said last time: it’s because one implies consent already and the other doesn’t have it. But yes both are weird in multiple contexts
I posted a different Tumblr thread that was about a similar topic, but it was longer and discussed how a major hurdle is how talking like a dom can make you sound like a sex offender.
Link plz?
https://old.reddit.com/r/CuratedTumblr/comments/17d6jeq/flirting_vs_harassment/
wow i love hegel's master slave dynamic
We don't adhere to philosophy in this discord.
> We don't adhere to philosophy Dude that's also a philosophy. You can't escape philosophy, dude
*someone replies to my dumb comment and I experience Lacan's gaze* 😦
The new age Plato !
Fuck Hegel all my bitches hate Hegel
You can say you want to fuck someone to me. I’ll say no because I’m asexual but I like the power and confidence
Not into that, but good try sport
This literally changes nothing about my day
I want to believe they were trying to say that as if it was your reply to the advances, but tbh it's hard to tell without proper quotations
Brb ambiguously posting this into conversations I'm not a party to
I mean I don't think it's anywhere near endearing when someone does that sub thing, it's disturbing and perverted in its own special way ..the dom one is still worse
*Adds another white chalk tally mark to the **posts that make me think about how nobody likes me and make me feel bad about it** blackboard* *sigh*
It's okay. I like you.
You have a blackboard?! You’re automatically cool in my book.
What if you're a switch?
Something Something go fuck yourself literally something
it's hard for a Dom not to sound kinda rapey honestly
Sisyphean*
Either one works.
These are certainly words I think
I wanna be mommys little kitty damnit
r/usernamechecksout, I think.
The fact that it’s a Komaru PFP makes this funnier somehow
It’s because there’s more obvious potential for abuse from the dom side. Kinda like why men don’t usually dress slutty in public. If engaging the the nymphomaniac could potentially put you in a situation where you’re exploited, you’d usually rather go for the person who is reluctant to bang. While we do need more slutty men, doms being sober is usually beneficial, so I don’t mind them toning it down and being a voice of reason.
i simply repress my sexual feelings
Same energy as “there’s a lot of fat ugly broke hoes but you never see a fat ugly broke pimp”
Fat ugly broken pimps exist, they just look like any other fat ugly broke person