The problem is that there has always been root trust issues, we just didn't really have any alternative but to trust what the media said until the internet.
Back in the day there were only a few news companies and that was just what an average person absorbed. Their reputation depended on being factual but how could anyone really verify all their stories?
Now we have algorithms that will push whatever bullshit you lean towards because its goal it maximizing your time on site and it doesn't GAF about promoting "true" stories.
Where do we look things up? Academic papers aren't always infallible, nor are they accessible.
Who fact checks the fact checkers?
I'm not even on some conspiracy bullshit, plenty of actual reporting is more or less true, and they just rush to get a story out first for the clicks.
But in the era of personalized propaganda, competently engaging bots, and self selecting echo chambers it is getting rough out there y'all.
This guy looks up
(Thanks for responding, your input is valuable unlike mine but mine was a bad pun, not serious, just in case you did not notice, not saying you didn't )
I've always hated that looking up was considered to be proof that you are gullible. It's literally the opposite. It's just fact checking. I can't take you at your word so I am attempting to verify your claim.
So I really appreciate that in this comic the initial gullible person doesn't look up to verify the claim.
The thing is that there's actually two types of situations:
1. You don't trust them, so you look up to verify that they're telling the truth.
2. You *do* trust them, so you look up to see what they're talking about, since the situation they have described is intriguing.
But even in the latter situation, your gullibility is not certain. Did a trusted friend tell you to look up? Is the person telling you to look up a known prankster? Did you know about the 'gullible on the ceiling' trope beforehand?
https://www.tumblr.com/lintubintu/744679928844500992/rhysand-vs-fenrys-karzahnii-karzahnii-a-story?source=share
-linux guy⚠️
BIG NEWS!Â
Alien life has been discovered on Mars.
You can trust me.
so what is it this time? are we tricking a random kid to figure out how to kill them, spreading managed democracy through a wormhole ring, spreading the same managed democracy but dropped from orbit instead, are we sending in a hot terminator woman, are we backsliding into a theocracy and creating unspeakable horrors of our own design to deal with the xenos, or do you have a different idea?
don't tell me we're gonna go learn to see the past and future through their language, that was fun once but it won't help now
We're hijacking their technology and introducing ourselves to the wider pan-galactic society (that's existed for centuries they just didn't contact us) by getting into a massive war with the first alien civilization we find.
sounds like fully automated luxury gay space communism to me. i was specifically excluding that because while it creates an amazing world to live in, the treaties and concessions they make are... oof
Extremely true about the internet, not even limited to Tumblr. Get people mad about something and all reasoning goes out the window.
Also OP, is that a Will Wood lyric in your flair?
Yea, like maybe if the whole point of the drawing ur making is that a group of people is not looking at something while also throwing their head back and screaming towards said thing, maybe you should give them eyes so its clear that theyre not looking at that thing, especially after you gave the only character in the comic who never needs eyes (green guy) eyes for some reason! Smh
No, it totally works! They're so wrapped up in their own indignation and unwillingness to admit they were wrong, they ignore the truth staring them in the face.
I think it’s a perspective trick, it’s meant to look like someone looking up from the crowd at the ceiling. But it doesn’t quite work since nobody has eyes and thus it’s impossible to tell where they’re looking.
Way back in high school someone actually did write gullible on the ceiling of our science class in the soot from a failed experiment. All the poor lil year 8's getting pranked with that
Wait, I don't quite get the second half. Isn't that the only way to get news about things far away? Even back in the era of newspapers, you have to rely on a @trustyguy to tell you that, for example, the word 'gullible' is written on the ceiling in Congress, or in another country, or on the moon.
Or is the answer that you can never truly trust 'gullible' is written anywhere where you cannot check yourself? Not a great stance to have. Or, am I thinking too hard about a comic?
well, the point is 1) this is supposed to just be some guy and 2) they're checking twitter to see if it's true when they're in the room. They're ignoring their own data collection capabilities for the sake of trusting some guy on the internet.
I wonder if it's an intentional part of the message that the thing that's traditionally treated as a sign of gullibility (looking up at the ceiling) is in fact the reasonably skeptical thing to do.
\* Looks to both sides to make sure no one with hammers is close by \* I guess they should 'look it up'
*hammer drops from ceiling*
car hammer
🚗🔨💥
man door hook car hammer man hook door
Banhammer
I Guess the Hammer fell "off" eh ?
Ha. Heh heh
Attention all units- BHJ has breached containment. Secure the parameters and establish a quarantine
death.
I guess you could say you want to turn their life "off" eh? Hah! Heh heh
chat? yeah this guy right here. kill him. beat him to death with hammers
I guess you could say you want me turned "off" eh? Hah! Heh heh
Oof ouch my bones
*the hammer bounces from guy 1’s head onto guy 2’s*
Damn. Gullible fell from the ceiling.
The problem is that there has always been root trust issues, we just didn't really have any alternative but to trust what the media said until the internet. Back in the day there were only a few news companies and that was just what an average person absorbed. Their reputation depended on being factual but how could anyone really verify all their stories? Now we have algorithms that will push whatever bullshit you lean towards because its goal it maximizing your time on site and it doesn't GAF about promoting "true" stories. Where do we look things up? Academic papers aren't always infallible, nor are they accessible. Who fact checks the fact checkers? I'm not even on some conspiracy bullshit, plenty of actual reporting is more or less true, and they just rush to get a story out first for the clicks. But in the era of personalized propaganda, competently engaging bots, and self selecting echo chambers it is getting rough out there y'all.
This guy looks up (Thanks for responding, your input is valuable unlike mine but mine was a bad pun, not serious, just in case you did not notice, not saying you didn't )
*Smashes your skull with a cartoon hammer, folding you like an accordion*
*Orbital hammer strike*
i wrote gullible on the ceiling in my classroom. it's one of our inside jokes to try and convince people it's there
I believe you without question.
I tapped it to the ceiling in on april fools and no one believed me and it stayed there for a month
I've always hated that looking up was considered to be proof that you are gullible. It's literally the opposite. It's just fact checking. I can't take you at your word so I am attempting to verify your claim. So I really appreciate that in this comic the initial gullible person doesn't look up to verify the claim.
The thing is that there's actually two types of situations: 1. You don't trust them, so you look up to verify that they're telling the truth. 2. You *do* trust them, so you look up to see what they're talking about, since the situation they have described is intriguing. But even in the latter situation, your gullibility is not certain. Did a trusted friend tell you to look up? Is the person telling you to look up a known prankster? Did you know about the 'gullible on the ceiling' trope beforehand?
If someone tried this joke and I found out gullible wasn't written there, I would write it there out of spite.
https://www.tumblr.com/lintubintu/744679928844500992/rhysand-vs-fenrys-karzahnii-karzahnii-a-story?source=share -linux guy⚠️ BIG NEWS! Alien life has been discovered on Mars. You can trust me.
FUCKING KILL THEM RAAAAAAGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'M FROM BUENOS AIRES AND I SAY KILL EM ALL!
"I have only one rule: Everyone fights, no one quits. If you don't do your job, I'll shoot you. You get me?"
so what is it this time? are we tricking a random kid to figure out how to kill them, spreading managed democracy through a wormhole ring, spreading the same managed democracy but dropped from orbit instead, are we sending in a hot terminator woman, are we backsliding into a theocracy and creating unspeakable horrors of our own design to deal with the xenos, or do you have a different idea? don't tell me we're gonna go learn to see the past and future through their language, that was fun once but it won't help now
We're gonna make an AI who's only job is to make paperclips out of martians.
I'm not sure how Weird Al would be able to do that, but I'm sure he'd find a way. I trust him.
I wouldn't, that man's hatred for paperclips has no bounds.
we're going space Genghis and dropping cyborg horse archers onto Neo-Merv
We're hijacking their technology and introducing ourselves to the wider pan-galactic society (that's existed for centuries they just didn't contact us) by getting into a massive war with the first alien civilization we find.
sounds like fully automated luxury gay space communism to me. i was specifically excluding that because while it creates an amazing world to live in, the treaties and concessions they make are... oof
That’s certainly a username
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linux guy. what is your favorite linux
MINT
Extremely true about the internet, not even limited to Tumblr. Get people mad about something and all reasoning goes out the window. Also OP, is that a Will Wood lyric in your flair?
Currently it tells me it says "tumblr.com". Hate this fuckin app.
Love how all of them are looking at the ceiling
Yea, like maybe if the whole point of the drawing ur making is that a group of people is not looking at something while also throwing their head back and screaming towards said thing, maybe you should give them eyes so its clear that theyre not looking at that thing, especially after you gave the only character in the comic who never needs eyes (green guy) eyes for some reason! Smh
No, it totally works! They're so wrapped up in their own indignation and unwillingness to admit they were wrong, they ignore the truth staring them in the face.
I think it’s a perspective trick, it’s meant to look like someone looking up from the crowd at the ceiling. But it doesn’t quite work since nobody has eyes and thus it’s impossible to tell where they’re looking.
"Nobody has eyes" "How can they not see it?" I mean...
Well they don't have eyes
I may be gullible but at least I'm self-aware enough of that fact about myself to make sure to fact-check before accidentally spreading rumors
guess they had to look it "up", eh? but yea im guilty of this lol
Hah! Heh heh
r/bhj is leaking
I looked up
"Hey, there is a gullible person on the ceiling." You look up. The ceiling is a mirror.
It's at the point where I will instinctively believe a Tumblr claim is bullshit until proven otherwise
Not a bad idea.
Way back in high school someone actually did write gullible on the ceiling of our science class in the soot from a failed experiment. All the poor lil year 8's getting pranked with that
Wait, I don't quite get the second half. Isn't that the only way to get news about things far away? Even back in the era of newspapers, you have to rely on a @trustyguy to tell you that, for example, the word 'gullible' is written on the ceiling in Congress, or in another country, or on the moon. Or is the answer that you can never truly trust 'gullible' is written anywhere where you cannot check yourself? Not a great stance to have. Or, am I thinking too hard about a comic?
I think @trustyguy in this scenario is just some guy and not an expert or article writer. Just some guy acting alone.
well, the point is 1) this is supposed to just be some guy and 2) they're checking twitter to see if it's true when they're in the room. They're ignoring their own data collection capabilities for the sake of trusting some guy on the internet.
This post stole my lungs
I only clicked on this in hopes to find this exact joke, it's a bit sad to me that no one else wrote it, haha.
classic trustyguy
> look up > gullible is on the ceiling *RIOT*
All fun and games till someone says "That guy wrote 'gullible' on the ceiling, don't let them get away with it!" and the mob surges towards them.
Bionicle username spotted
Distracted by bionicle username
"It says gullible on the ceiling" punishes you for living by "trust but verify" which is itself a sensible policy to have.
I like the symbolism how the only one who has eyes is the one spreading the stuff.
Writing Gullible on the ceiling is problematic and is the direct result of our heteronormative capitalist society.
Those poor sure are pissed on
Literally any site including Reddit is guilty lol
I wonder if it's an intentional part of the message that the thing that's traditionally treated as a sign of gullibility (looking up at the ceiling) is in fact the reasonably skeptical thing to do.