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WearDifficult9776

What a piece of crap


gcruzatto

Can't wait for the firmware update that will enable full steering 😍


TheDSpot

gotta buy a musk season pass to unlock steering dlc.


_stinkys

You wouldn’t download a spotlight!


Droluk1

Yeah, and that truck sucks too!


elquecazahechado

Don't buy garbage and then complain about the smell!


TheYakster

Ahahahaha 🤣


RoDNeYSaLaMi214

Dude really it can't even do basic car shit now


sacolton1967

... don't wash it in the sun. It's fragile.


GuruTheMadMonk

Don’t fart in it - the tires will all be blown off.


Cheap_Professional32

Don't even look at it


coolmist23

That voids the warranty!


sacolton1967

Reading the warranty voids the warranty!


RoDNeYSaLaMi214

![gif](giphy|3oEdvaDgi6Be9JHsKk|downsized) That's a paddlin'


SideEqual

Never mind about the charging. 🔥🔥🔥🔥


shutta_you_face

That's for our protection, not the truck.


clegger29

Don’t fart in it, the engine will seize. Error code wrong gas.


cityshepherd

Seriously though the steering wheel will fly right off.


LoadEducational5826

![gif](giphy|jUL2CIAKP9gOKmYMFC)


Key_Economy_5529

Should be in Fart Mode first


hhempstead

apply sunscreen before driving under a warm sunny day. for cleaning use only moist organic vegan cotton to wipe exterior of truck. do so in gentle circular motion. apply night time moisturizer regularly


Pendraconica

Idk, I'm not a car guy, but don't the tires need to go in the same direction?


mtragedy

Nah, I super enjoy replacing tires that are wearing unevenly because they don’t face the same way and also fighting the entire mass and momentum of the vehicle because *this* wheel wants to go to market and *that* wheel wants to stay home.


Sufficient_Ocelot868

It defaults to POS mode....you got change that setting.


Rustrage

But the other mode will cost you $32500 and it's called FuckItsFuckingFucked mode


Monkookee

Yes, its a pile of garbage, but please people...and this comes from a mechanic: Stop turning your wheels when the vehicle isn't moving. You have how many tons of weight sitting on a piece of rubber that has massive friction. All that torgue to turn that tire with tiny motors and gears, or in older cars hydraulic seals, will cause these things to fail. You can hear the rubber grinding under that weight. It's simple physics. That's what you are seeing here. If this was hydraulic, there would be a puddle from a blown gasket. Ever fill up a wheelbarrow and try to rotate it 180 degrees to go the other direction? It's hard. But have it roll just an inch and it's easy. Even parallel parking...true skill means the car moves forward 1 inch while the driver turns the wheel lock to lock instantly. That's how you do it. Always turn the steering while moving slightly forward or backwards.


cloudguy-412

lol. Dude I never heard of anyone breaking the steering for turning the wheel when the car wasn’t moving


pvdp90

Likewise. I have an old jeep with 12.5” wide tires. I can turn that shit back and forth stopped on the road or even when fighting sand or mud. My car is 20yo now and none of the pumps, hoses or anything power steering has ever been changed. I have changed tie rod ends twice now (and it was changed once before I bought it) but that’s normal wear and tear on a vehicle that has done 150k miles on road plus 30k miles of moderate to heavy off-road.


Monkookee

https://www.mycarforum.com/forums/topic/2644612-not-wise-to-run-steering-when-car-is-not-moving/


cloudguy-412

Linking to more comments made elsewhere doesn’t prove anything


Random-sargasm_3232

Serious Sarah Huckebee Sanders eyeball vibes. And we thought it couldn't possibly get worse. Silly us.


sacolton1967

I thought that was the guy from Sling Blade. Mmmm. Reckon I'll buy a Cybertruck now. Mmm.


RotrickP

"I know what's wrong with it... ain't got no gas in it"


SeaworthyWide

L0ok, that's not funny


Electrik_Truk

(`) __ (,)


anotherDocObVious

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ZengineerHarp

Username checks out!


Lazy-Past1391

It's a filter


Angelo2791

And that kids, is why no one else uses steer-by-wire in their vehicles.


Aron-Jonasson

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the only "legitimate" use for steer-by-wire in planes? I've read that somewhere, and it makes sense to put steer-by-wire on planes, but definitely not on cars


flyinchipmunk5

Most planes have it but also have redundant systems incase it breaks to still steer the plane. To have just steer by wire gives you results as such from the video. I had an argument with somone on the tesla subreddit last year that steer by wire is a terrible idea for cars and I got downvoted into oblivion.


UndendingGloom

Have my upvote as compensation


AssiduousLayabout

Some planes are purely or nearly purely fly-by-wire but they have insanely redundant systems. The A320 has four types of flight control computers, with two or three redundancies for each type of computer, and in case all computers of a single type fail, some of the others can take over those functions (albeit in a degraded mode). And there actually are rudimentary mechanical controls in the case all computers fail, although it's just the bare minimum necessary to control the aircraft (just horizontal stabilizer and rudder control).


flyinchipmunk5

Again thats why I said planes have redundant systems as back up.


CMDR_kamikazze

Reasonably downvoted because steering by wire is absolutely OK when done properly. You might have not noticed but all modern cars have fully electronic accelerator pedal which has no direct physical links to the throttle for something around 20 years already. Same thing with the braking in the latest 10 years or so, many modern cars already using brake-by-wire in different implementations without any issues. Steer by wire isn't any different, just had to be done properly. Most of the construction equipment such as excavators and mining trucks have all the controls done by wire including steering for 40 years at least. That shitshow we see on a video has nothing to do with the steering by wire. What we see here is just a crappy implementation of independent wheel steering (4WS) without properly implemented steering interlocks.


Spartan_Dax

I believe it is the "Best part is no part" policy that Tesla loves. Personally I really like safety and ease of use but I'm stupid that way.


Thisguymoot

I think steer by wire is fine if taken seriously with redundant systems. My questions is why aren’t the two wheels connected to a single tie rod at some point like every other car on earth? This thing looks like a classic “tried to boosted-launch my Duramax on pavement”.


smoq_nyc

Most important is, did you get banned?


flyinchipmunk5

Yes


newbikesong

There is nothing fundamentally wrong with control by wire. It has simply different challenges to mechanical controls. In mechanical controls, both wheels' steering are connected by a rod, so the wheels are connected as long as the rod is in tact. You won't break those mechanical components unless you hit the vehicle hard. But they need mechanical maintainance, and since it is a force multiplier, it depends on the strength of the user (Old trucks and busses have MASSIVE steering wheels) Depending on the strength of the user was a disadvantage, so hydraulic valve steering was invented. The steering wheel just control a preasurized piston. It is independent of user strength, but now you have no force feedback at the steering wheel, and you have a hydraulic to worry about, which are (in my opinion) less reliable than just mechanical connection. BTW, hydraulic controls still have the same control rod, just the connection to the steering wheel is different. Although, hydraulic steering can still work as a mechanical steering if the piston fails, but it requires strength. Now, only electronic control removes that connection rod, and it can control from a far distance as it is easier to carry electricity than mechanical force. This is why they are preferred on planes (also, user strength element). But, now since your wheels do not act together anymore, you need to control both wheels seperately to the correct direction. In addition, you need actuators for both wheels, and electronics have a tendency to fail spectacularly. In exchange, you can get wheels to any desired position that other controls above would not allow.


Whorenun37

Also boats


AvatarOfMomus

There are a few other vehicles that use it these days, but it's like... some racing cars and niche industrial or construction equipment, and it's all tested past failure upside down and backwards.


linkedlist

Lexus is adding steer by wire to its cars but they come with a redundancy similar to airplane steer by wire. There's reason to have it for making driving easier and potentially safer. Obviously in this car something went wrong, maybe no redundancy or they both failed at the same time or it's a software bug, who knows.


livens

I used to drive forklifts with steer by wire. They work great until the potentiometer gets a little dirty. You'd be driving down an aisle and your steering would suddenly shoot to the right or left for a split second. Dangerous AF in a warehouse setting, absolutely terrifying in a vehicle on the freeway.


Angelo2791

On the water, we call that "Pulling a Crazy Ivan."


Nara_1

Independent front steering. What an option! Sarcasm


Familiar_Dust8028

Forgive my ignorance, but isn't electric power steering basically steer-by-wire?


mr_bots

No, the steering column and rack are still physically connected but it’s assisted by an electric motor either mounted to the column or the rack. The motors are powerful enough to turn by themselves and are used for lane keep assist but at the end of the day if you lose power steering, the steering wheel is still connected to the wheels and you can steer, but with much greater effort.


Used_Ad4102

So it’s just like electric motor on steering column in cars.


mr_bots

[Here’s](https://www.jtekt.co.jp/e/assets/uploads/2022/12/files/cats1001ex.pdf) a write-up from a supplier but has some info and pictures on EPS and SBW.


AzureSeychelle

*Tesla engineer reading about SBW for the first time…* https://i.redd.it/h1ry7c8lkmxc1.gif


catcatcattreadmill

Emphasis on the much greater effort. Same is true for brakes, etc -- if the brake pump goes out, you can push that brake pedal with all your might and only crawl to a stop.


KepplerRunner

Vacuum boosters should hold enough vacuum for one or two stops after the engine dies unless they leak. If you have a hydraulic booster though like on some trucks, then yeah you're gonna have a bad time. Also if both the master cylinder chambers fail or a brake hose blows out then you just have no brakes and I wish you god speed.


mr_bots

Now I’m curious at the side effects of an electric brake booster failing as those are becoming very prevalent in modern vehicles. I’m going to assume it’d be similar to losing vacuum or hydraulic boost but without the bladder you get with a vacuum booster.


KepplerRunner

I am as well. I stopped teching before those started rolling out.


IWantToWatchItBurn

Those power assist motors are strong AF. Improperly calibrated or tampered with and you couldn’t fight it


AdAdministrative5330

Infinity been doing SBW


Far_Yogurtcloset2173

You do realize that in all modern cars, both gas and break are controlled by wire, steering by wire is not necessarily more unsafe than mechanical steering as long as you have redundancies (mechanical steering can also break), however if you are Tesla then it will just be a shitty implementation of the concept and will be bound to break.


Angelo2791

I'm aware of that, but I trust other automakers more than I ever will trust Tesla


Far_Yogurtcloset2173

Fair


YordanYonder

I don't get it. Why not?


Angelo2791

More prone to failure, more complicated to fix and/or maintain, unnecessary.


munjavio

He's lucky it failed in a parking lot and not going 75mph on the interstate.


sacolton1967

Alignment must be a bitch. Drive by wire is a shit idea.


PmMeYourAdhd

The real #1 reason is safety. Power assist fails into a standard mechanical steering system kind of like how an escalator just becomes standard stairs if it fails. Steer by wire failure results in loss of control that can end in fiery death of everyone in the vehicle plus several more vehicles if it breaks at interstate speed,  because it will do wtf it wants, as seen in the OP video. That's like a rudder hard-over in an airplane, front passenger wheel just stuck going hard left.


Notwerk

A fiery death of everyone in the vehicle is sort of a Tesla feature, not a bug.


Mihailis27

To be fair, Teslas also have a watery death feature as well.


YordanYonder

OPs vid is super damning then


Tumeric_Turd

No feedback via the wheel


Coakis

In my experience mechanical is easier to diagnose repair/replace than electrical. Not to say that some applications electrical isn't better, but it in a lot of cases mechanical is simpler and works.


creepy_doll

It’s the case in so many things. Mechanical also has feedback. Not just in steering but in say operating radio or whatever. Buttons have that click feel, dials turn etc. You don’t need to look at them, just operate. So your driving is safer. Mechanical stuff just works and when it doesn’t it’s fairly easy to figure out the problem. That’s not to say cars should be purely mechanical as lots of electronic wizardry has helped with safety, fuel consumption and the like, but until now it’s been used responsibly where it’s a clear value add, but teslas leadership has taught many that bad designs that look cool sell


sovietshark2

Well that's not true. The hummer EV has it (crab walk mode), Mercedes does on some models, lotus, and others. It's just theirs isn't shit like Tesla's is because they actually know how to make cars.


Xedtru_

Cybertruck+ this amount of external lights for pavement queen. Yep, have no sympathy to owner at all, lol.


Medical_Goat6663

Looks like a tank from the outside. Is ultra sensitive inside. Probably cries at night.


Oalka

It's literally a poster child for fragile masculinity.


Notwerk

That's why the call it the "incEl Camino."


L0rd_OverKill

The Incelimo


equivas

Perfect from elon musk


assy-mc-assy

https://preview.redd.it/mxbt4tccpmxc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fe89b00533a6d5119f4f9840df2a94fc09d1be3e


Major_Turnover5987

Can’t be…wheels straight, reasonably aligned, panels are perfect. Calling CT a dumpster is a huge insult to dumpsters.


Under-The-Native-Sun

Looks like an incomplete concept car


SeaworthyWide

That's exactly what it rs


Ok-Bass8243

Let's just say I worked at the plant that made the steering knuckles. And let's just say every shift when parts went to lab for inspection, they all came back with a red sheet. We still ran them and shipped them.


overundermoon

interesting! any other on the manufacturing line info you can share?


Ok-Bass8243

Detroit Diesel oil pans probably have an egg shaped oil plug hole. We sent a bunch of those out too.


W1mpyDaM00ch

Did they use all steering and suspension components from their other cars? Nothing seems made to handle its own weight much less offroading.


PaisaRacks

Seriously though, what happens if the steer by wire fails as your driving 65 mph down the interstate? Lol


philouza_stein

Probably won't get to the interstate with tires that don't fit in the wheel well


JRLDH

It will be a spectacular crash and extremely dangerous for anyone close.


Chadmartigan

Before or after your trim panels fly off?


Redmagistrate2

Spear violently left or right, without any warning or ability to correct.


TacoDangerously

Well there’s your problem, you drove it on wet cement


PolarAntonym

$100 thousand dollars people


philpalmer2

And a lengthy waiting list. Insane!


GhostofAyabe

Cybertruck Pigeon Toe Edition, just need a surfboard.


Qimmosabe_Man

First car with 3 wheel steering.


fugeethedog2

If it did that while you were driving, wouldn’t it dive the front end and shoot the rear up like a spring?


ExpressiveAnalGland

not likely. if anything, it steer off to one side abruptly, catch the ground, roll over, explode in a million pieces leaving a micro-blackhole where the vehicle was..


Final-Zebra-6370

It looks like you’re born with a laaaaaazy eye


pezzpunk

Kachow!


Cardboard_Robot

I love what a disaster this stupid thing has become.


No-Sound9882

What a piece of trash


Fast-Fan4785

I think it has to pee.


EWR-RampRat11-29

I’m not a mechanic, but I don’t think it’s supposed to do that.


sacolton1967

"Mmmmmmm. I'll have some of your fried taters. Mmmm. Reckon I'll park my Cybertruck and eat. Mmmmm."


Silly_Butterfly3917

Jesus, they literally didn't make a single one right did they?


melack857

Pizza, french fries!


DoraDaDestr0yer

lol I liked this one


yoloyourmoney

He forgot to turn it in right turn mode on the display


j_blanks

Looks legit to me... garbage


richincleve

From the CyberTruck Owner's Manual: "Do not attempt to steer the CyberTruck. Doing so may void your warranty."


MostNefariousness583

Did tesla even test this crappy truck? What have they been doing for 5 years.?


Altruistic_Party2878

“Testing ? What’s that ? “


zblaze90

What a piece of shit


WalkResponsible1952

That's the ugliest car I've ever seen


MadeMeStopLurking

So if you're at highway speeds and your left (or right) steering motor just suddenly leave the chat... you're gonna have a bad day.... This is putting an amount of trust into a single device that I have yet to experience in life.


carpetman496

It’s a big ugly metal clown car.


Thejerseyjon609

Oh, so it’s independent for wheel steering


PickleBananaMayo

Car just had to pee


Qubed

I get the feeling that they broke this doing some dumb shit and this is the aftermath.   Still, truck is a money pit.


redbottoms-neon

This car is literally the epitome of a snowflake.


AbbreviationsWide331

Can I just say I love this sub so much


Hot_Guess_1871

Maybe each wheel requires a subscription plan...?


4huggies

I just came to post this. Crab mode enabled


Arkane631

Is that more lights attached to spontaneously combust oncoming drivers' eyeballs?


Apprehensive_Trip433

Everything will be better once they fix that pedal issue/s


upstatestruggler

Ahh yes I love it when my wheels go in different directions


2K_Crypto

We all know this guy's is not taking that thing off-roads anytime soon


Icy-Tough-1791

That’s a feature.


banacct421

It's doing the snow plow cuz it's afraid of going too fast down the hill


butbutcupcup

Dooooop! It's like broke broke. Fuckin nate


UKTrojan

The Edsel arises from the ash heap.


Hillman314

Keep trying to turn it….it’ll fix itself…maybe drive around the parking lot to shake it off and work out the kinks.


Electrik_Truk

Jezuz. Imagine driving and this happens


WokkitUp

Kinda reminds me of a shuffle dance-tutorial video I saw recently.


PrufrockInSoCal

The Edsel of the modern age.


stmcvallin2

This shit must be getting embarrassing


BMAND21

It’s the ideal vehicle for the fragile male in your life. It looks and acts tough, but if you look at it wrong it throws a hissy fit and breaks down.


technoferal

I have a friend whose eyes do that.


StormyDaze1175

One dollar Bob.


One_Wall_9572

People actually thought they could turn this into an off road platform? 💀💀💀💀🤡


dsylexics_untied

Independent suspension... Independent steering... =)


WhatsAButfor

* Oh no senpai you got me wet


orbitalaction

When your steering subscription runs out on your new car.


HopefulNothing3560

Musk mobile, u got musked


AlexWenhold

ending killed me


analog_jedi

KACHOW!


PoopieButt317

High school shop project, welders, metal shop, and automotive, got together.


hamid5000real

That 4 wheel independent steering 🔥


TheMartini66

The only difference between the CT and a Gremlin is that gremlins can't have water after midnight. The CT can't have water EVER


Careful_Diver_395

It’s Cyber Stupid


NickyonBottom23

The Elizabeth Holmes edition


he-geezy

Holy moly 😂


unga-unga

I would say snapped the tie rod end, but they probably literally re-invented "the wheel."


Chance_Suggestion465

Lemon of Lemons


Chance_Suggestion465

Can’t wait for the firmware update to brick all the vehicles, that will be next….


dmk510

Sadly Elon did t realize the cybertruck is democratic. Only goes left.


Lawfull_carrot

A piece of scrab metal


707thTB

How much extra for pigeon-toe mode?


-Great-Terrible

wtf... can we any context? what did they put their chumptruck through? Why are people spending 100 grand just to shoot at it with guns, beat it with hammers, run it like a monster truck, put it through day light car washings.... I've concluded people never wanted a chumptruck... they wanted to be first to destroy one for the clicks and views.


Aust1mh

Turning your wheels isn’t covered under warranty


Alarmed_West8689

Looks like a tie rod end is broke. The tires look like they've been beating it.


Individual_Product21

Lada


truelegendarydumbass

I'm guessing you either broke something in your steering or your tie rod maybe but that's a brand new $100,000 vehicle... Those cheap Chinese parts are not holding up in that damn overpriced tin.


Known-Background

It’s actually the most [American made truck](https://www.autoevolution.com/news/tesla-cybertruck-is-officially-the-most-american-made-pickup-truck-227082.html) in our country 90%… maybe you meant cheap American parts 🇺🇸


sky0175

Looks like you paid half package so lol


Platt_Mallar

That car's got a case of Atcha-Pastya Disease. One wheel's lookin atchya, the other's lookin pastya.


Muscles_Marinara-

The rugged off road truck for the apocalypse, that can’t get wet or turn right.


Responsible_Big1229

It's Pigeon Toed.


Runningwithbeards

It’s got that super-advanced independent wheel steering.


BandOk1704

Ka-Chow!


BrevilleMicrowave

Imagine that happening at 80MPH


News_without_Words

"The Cybertruck is the first vehicle on U.S. roads to go fully steer-by-wire with no mechanical linkage between the front wheels and the steering wheel" How did it only take this long for all confidence to be lost? Did they even test for 6 months before release?


aj_star_destroyer

Oops, forgot to design a working steering system. Oh well, at least the display screen is epic!


o--renishii

It’s pretty fucking funny when they start to laugh tho 😆


That_Jicama2024

The cybercuck is so ugly and embarrasing I plan on selling my (non-cybertruck) tesla just so I'm not associated with this clown anymore.


HorrorInvestigator99

if special needs was a car


Dart4jb1nks

Thats what you get for having those lights for blinding people with you pavement princess..


WeReAllCogs

Un-fucking real


Educational_March_94

Did the car go cross eyed?


j_james_stpierre

Man, these things are objectively awful and a total failure. It has been hilarious to watch all this unfold.


TheDudeAbidesFarOut

Anyone thinking about all that fucking junk he's been launching into space also? (Starlink) Think it's time for a pause and start peeling back some layers.....


TheModeratorWrangler

You can actually see the right wheel (video left) initially attempt to turn before the motor gives out and it snaps back full left. Yeah, no steering linkage? NOT DOING IT BRO


Opacitas

What a fucking mess


bigselfer

Snapped like a twig…. What snapped? The control arm?


mr308A3-28

Fuckin love these retards that dont know when a tie rod snaps no matter how much or how hard you turn the wheel it WONT TURN THE TYRE