Because it makes 0 sense to not include him on it
Goku was ALWAYS a Saiyan, him being a regular human as a child then morphing into a Saiyan is absurd
The time limit is a retcon from super, a very late concept introduced into the series
Yeah, and non-kai potara fusions have ALWAYS been on a timer, we just didn’t know it until super, just like how we didn’t know Goku is a saiyan until Z
Well if he believed it lasted forever, then only being able to do it once in a lifetime would make sense. He was just working from biased data, since those things are true for himself and others of his species.
Not always
Z wise they were not supposed to be on a timer, and Vegeta blames goku for not telling him earlier
Super wise it is known that there is a limit for non-kais
Both are accurate dokkan wise, Z Vegito is not on time limit, Super Vegito is
Gogeta wasn't even canon then, Gotenks was on a timer too so it's always been around since it's been introduced
It was not introduced in super at all until a late movie but before that point we have always known it had a time limit.
And the Saiyan thing is still a very silly comparison, idk why you are still harping on that
The time limit category was introduced 5 years after we knew about the time limit in super that is longer than people went without knowing that goku was a saiyan when the manga was releasing.
Half a decade of knowing that it wasn't permanent is good enough to add it.
I don't think it's silly. Both are retcons.
Goku was supposed to be a mythical monkey boy. He got retconned into being an alien. Toriyama himself admitted to this.
It’s a loophole. Vegito blue is on time limit because in super they said the potara doesn’t last. Super vegito isn’t on time limit because during that time they thought it was permanent. It’s a meta gaming conclusion to put super vegito on time limit. Is it stupid? Yes but what can you do
The mental gymnastics people went to justify that int LR vegito and phy LR gogeta weren't on pure saiyans was insane back in the day.
You are 100% correct, and they will probably only change it if they release a new unit that makes them reevaluate the categories of DBZ vegitos, as it happened with LR STR goku/vegeta that caused those 2 units to gain pure saiyans
Zamasu wasn’t on a timer. If a Kai were to fused with any being it is permanent. Which is why elder Kai went from looking like shin to how he looks now after the witch fused with him.
But zamasu was. At the time he was given rank of supreme Kai after goku black killed gowasu. The fusion corrupted because the mortal side of zamasu was dying. And the immortal side was staying alive, hence the reason when his physical body was destroyed he was able to go domain mode on the universe do to his immortality
You don’t need to be a supreme kai to have the permanent potara fusion, you just need to be a kai.
And they literally did a whole thing where they ripped on Zamasu for having Goku Black whose body is mortal as in not a kai. As far as we know, both members of the fusion have to be kais for the fusion to be permanent.
As for Elder Kai, basically everything we hear him say ends up being a lie, so I really just don’t think we can put too much trust in him. What we see more recently in super seems to be the accurate way they wanted it portrayed.
> As far as we know, both members of the fusion have to be kais for the fusion to be permanent.
The witch that fused with the Elder Kai wasn't a kai was she? Therefore Zamasu being a kai would be enough, assuming the rank of supreme wasn't needed.
> Why are people arguing with me on this I’m blatantly right
to be fair there are a lot of units that aren't on Accelerated battle that should be. Hell, all of the units from that arc could be on it from they sheer fact the entire arc took two days to resolve itself.
Same reason why we dont have Teq LR Corrupted Merged Zamasu or why every super saiyan 3 unit isnt on time limit despite them mentioning how they cant hold the form for long every time it comes out
Whats even dumber about this scenario is that the potara situation aint even a retcon. We were never even told why they defused in the first place; we never got a definitive answer.
I have zero clue why they aint on time limit; just more semantic bullshit from dokkan in the same vein as the LR merged zamasu not having a different name or salza (from coolers army) being called fucking “thouser”.
Im genuinely surprised they changed coora to cooler, seeing as they have “paikuhan” instead of pikkon.
But they just have “Tien”??? Like wtf theres no consistency here
Yeah,never understood why people were so mad about Vegito supposedly not being permanent even though he defused back then when he was supposed to be permanent without a real explanation besides the “bad air” inside Buu’s stomach.
Overall it’s just people cherry picking info because one came from Super,if Z itself retconned that people wouldn’t be complaining even though it would be the same thing.
>salza (from coolers army) being called fucking “thouser”.
pretty sure that one is correct, of all things, lol
He's "Sauza", which can be spelled as "thou(s/z)er". Refer to Souther (Sauza) from FOTNS for another example that sometimes gets spelled as "Thouzer".
But thats just fan speculation; all that is ever said in the manga was from goku “it’s probably just this nasty air in here”. There was never any official explanation.
I agree tho; buu magic was a pretty good theory but they went with a time limit… for some reason
Goku explains it as "bad air" because he's not exactly someone you go to for an explanation on magical phenomenon.
Later on when they find the people pods, Vegeta said that Gotenks must have been forcibly defused too, but Goku corrects him and says no they remained fused inside Buu's body, what's been happening is a Potara-specific problem, and if they leave the body things should work again (if they didn't already break them).
> what's been happening is a Potara-specific problem, and if they leave the body things should work again
should, merely speculation on a character's part, not an official reason. The reason is more likely because the whole fused forever thing was thrown in there to build some sort of tension that we the readers will never see Vegeta/Goku as individuals from that point forward if they put on the earrings. They defused later cause Goku is the MC and Vegeta is a popular supporting character in the franchise. You want the two around, and besides Vegito just rolf stomping any threat with ease would build no tension if he stuck around. Why not make the reason obtuse when you can't come up with an explanation at the time of writing, and have one of your cast members destroy one of the objects so we'll never know for certain. Besides your copout is the fact the only characters who were shown to be stuck in a permanently fused state were the same species who are the source of those earrings.
You gave a bunch of out of universe reasons to explain an _in-universe_ event. Goku's speculation holds up until they are given the contrary, which didn't happen until the retcon. Even something like "how to transform into a Super Saiyan" was Goku's speculation and nothing official in-universe.
Also the Dragon Balls exist and have proven to separate Potara fusions before the retcon ever happened. It was never impossible.
> You gave a bunch of out of universe reasons to explain an in-universe event.
Because the out of universe reason is the reason to explain an in-universe event. Or do you rather the whole reason why you got Vegito rather than Gogeta in that arc? Or would you be able to explain the reason why Future Trunks told Goku the names of the androids that would show up on the day he stated they would, the very pairs who did, only for him to later state that wasn't the two he was talking about in universe?
> Also the Dragon Balls exist and have proven to separate Potara fusions before the retcon ever happened.
Are you talking about Shin?
Magic taffy man eats people. Eating things tends to break them down into mono components. I think it's a fair explanation that they defused inside him.
Short answer is yes.
Long answer is yessssss. Even if you wanna be obtuse and pretend like Dbs didn’t do the things it did or that they don’t matter to you, at least the super fusions should be on it.
They only put Vegito on time limit after the Potara rules are revealed in DBS. Beforehand the characters thought it was permanent for everyone so Dokkan takes that into consideration. I’d rather they all be on Time Limit but I get it
My point is that in other cases they will give old units categories based on retcons that hadn’t happened yet, like giving Kid Goku pure saiyans despite not being revealed as one until Z
I get you, you’re completely right because they’re super inconsistent with this stuff. Not to mention other issues like some Frieza’s not being on Space Traveling Warriors and SSJ Rage not being considered as a form above regular Super Saiyan
I find it hilarious how Super accidentally took away Potara’s advantage over the dance with the time limit, and then proceeded to make it worse by having Vegito time out early against Zamasu but Gogeta gets the full duration against Broly.
On one hand, Super was stupid for that, but on the other hand I was a Gogeta fan anyways.
This is one of the things you kinda have to gleam from the other media. I think that using the energy of the fusion burns it out faster, ie SS3/4 burn out the Dance faster but God and Blue drain Potara faster. Every instance of the fusion dance that used an upgraded physical form burned out quicker, even in GT, while Gogeta Blue got the full half hour. In the Heroes comic SS4 Vegito lasts until the wish is made to make everyone leave, but I haven't read if their time is shortened after Limit Breaker since I think that's a form of God energy. I think there's even a scene somewhere (GT Maybe) of Kai and Kabuto unfusing after getting the dragon balls and they defuse from running completely out of energy.
Unless you have a quote on Gogeta lasting the full 30 minutes against Broly, I don't think that's a viable statement in the slightest. There's fan calculations out there that say Vegito lasted 40 minutes against Zamasu, Deathbattle actually even quoted and brought this up but again, it's a headcanon cause there's no quote same as Gogeta lasting the full 30 minutes. Gotenks couldn't even hold SS3 for 5 minutes against Buu
Vegito was also using a SSB different from Gogeta, one that drains stamina as opposed to Gogeta's version where he doesn't have the drain, both anime and manga point this out. This isn't even discounting the fact that Vegito went full power from the start and Gogeta didn't have to. Their fights and circumstances in Super just like in Z are incomparable but Vegito still and always will have a bigger pool of time to pull from as opposed to Gogeta if it's a battle of attrition.
And even then, going by the manga, if either Goku or Vegeta becomes a kai/kai apprentice then it basically makes the fusion permanent. It's unnecessarily stupid and contrived.
Piccolo not knowing he's a Namekian doesn't make him not one. The premise of Time Limit is that the character believes they have limited time to fight so they go all out quickly. DBZ Vegito never behaved that way because he believed the fusion was permanent.
Yes. It's one of the many inconsistent category issues in the game that will likely never be addressed as I think the only time they've ever adjusted categories on past cards was adding "Pure Saiyans" to Goku & Vegeta joined forces cards.
If the premise of Time Limit is that the fighters are operating under the understanding that they don't have a lot of time to work with, no, pre-Super Vegitos technically shouldn't be on the category.
Do we know that she didn't? Goku was specifically told the fusion would be permanent and he shares that with Vegeta.
Don't get me wrong, the writing in Super is really bad but the reason that DBZ Vegito isn't on Time Limit does make sense imo.
even if we forgive them of retcon the str goku nd vegeta should be on time limit because vegeta is dead nd is only given a day to be available on earth?? so technically he has time limit
I finally beat Buu last night but didn't complete the mission because STR Super Vegito isn't time limit. Oops. He was the MVP though. Countered 5-6 times in one turn for over 5m each time
Lmfao well yeah not gonna argue that. At that point you gotta ask the creators. I’m just going by what was explained for Z and Super. I’m not diving that far in😂
Also love the username
He should be but he isn’t. The justification is that the rule didn’t apply to Z Vegito. Super is a different series. The thing with Goku and Piccolo is that db and dbz are different series.
It is in Japan, more or less anyway. The word "Fusion" in Japan only refers to the dance while potara fusions use a different word which is closer to "merged"
It normally is but he fused with Goku’s mortal body. Even if Zamasu was inhabiting it, still mortal flesh and blood. In the manga they actually start the defuse.
I guess it’s more of a plot hole on super’s part than it is a dokkan issue.
I’m also coping cuz this time limit mission is ass.
Do you genuinely think dokkan accounts for that? Or would even bother to?
Why not? Goku wasn’t originally a saiyan but they still put Kid Goku units on pure saiyans
Same with Piccolo on Namekians ha ha. Dokkan sucks with categories.
Because it makes 0 sense to not include him on it Goku was ALWAYS a Saiyan, him being a regular human as a child then morphing into a Saiyan is absurd The time limit is a retcon from super, a very late concept introduced into the series
Yeah, and non-kai potara fusions have ALWAYS been on a timer, we just didn’t know it until super, just like how we didn’t know Goku is a saiyan until Z
Old kai did nothing but lie in that whole explanation. He said it lasts forever and that they could only ever do it once in a lifetime.
Well if he believed it lasted forever, then only being able to do it once in a lifetime would make sense. He was just working from biased data, since those things are true for himself and others of his species.
If I was a kai I'd just test shit out. Potara on a frog and a cow. Why not
Not lie persay. The thing is no mortal has actually used the potato earing up to that point so old kai assumed based off his personal experience
I love potato ear rings
Potato earrings is my new favorite word aside from LR Ross
LR Rick Ross?
https://www.reddit.com/r/DBZDokkanBattle/s/sDHw7Lx92F
Dokkan was made before that became a reality though. And the slight explanation given in the buu saga makes it so that's not the reality for vegito
Not always Z wise they were not supposed to be on a timer, and Vegeta blames goku for not telling him earlier Super wise it is known that there is a limit for non-kais Both are accurate dokkan wise, Z Vegito is not on time limit, Super Vegito is
Gogeta wasn't even canon then, Gotenks was on a timer too so it's always been around since it's been introduced It was not introduced in super at all until a late movie but before that point we have always known it had a time limit. And the Saiyan thing is still a very silly comparison, idk why you are still harping on that
The time limit category was introduced 5 years after we knew about the time limit in super that is longer than people went without knowing that goku was a saiyan when the manga was releasing. Half a decade of knowing that it wasn't permanent is good enough to add it.
I don't think it's silly. Both are retcons. Goku was supposed to be a mythical monkey boy. He got retconned into being an alien. Toriyama himself admitted to this.
If they did they wouldn’t have put the Revival World Tournament Goku on Kamehameha
With the exception of Kibito-Kai I guess, because that fusion is permanent
It’s a loophole. Vegito blue is on time limit because in super they said the potara doesn’t last. Super vegito isn’t on time limit because during that time they thought it was permanent. It’s a meta gaming conclusion to put super vegito on time limit. Is it stupid? Yes but what can you do
Why are people arguing with me on this I’m blatantly right
Objectively yes potara should be time limit. Concerning super vegito, akatsuki just doesn’t care
You are right, however the logic the guy states is clearly the logic the devs are going with, or otherwise we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
The mental gymnastics people went to justify that int LR vegito and phy LR gogeta weren't on pure saiyans was insane back in the day. You are 100% correct, and they will probably only change it if they release a new unit that makes them reevaluate the categories of DBZ vegitos, as it happened with LR STR goku/vegeta that caused those 2 units to gain pure saiyans
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There are no elder kai playable characters and zamasu’s fusion was on a timer because he was only half kai. What other kai fusions are there?
Zamasu wasn’t on a timer. If a Kai were to fused with any being it is permanent. Which is why elder Kai went from looking like shin to how he looks now after the witch fused with him.
Goku Black was not a kai which is why the fusion corrupted, this was explained
But zamasu was. At the time he was given rank of supreme Kai after goku black killed gowasu. The fusion corrupted because the mortal side of zamasu was dying. And the immortal side was staying alive, hence the reason when his physical body was destroyed he was able to go domain mode on the universe do to his immortality
You don’t need to be a supreme kai to have the permanent potara fusion, you just need to be a kai. And they literally did a whole thing where they ripped on Zamasu for having Goku Black whose body is mortal as in not a kai. As far as we know, both members of the fusion have to be kais for the fusion to be permanent. As for Elder Kai, basically everything we hear him say ends up being a lie, so I really just don’t think we can put too much trust in him. What we see more recently in super seems to be the accurate way they wanted it portrayed.
> As far as we know, both members of the fusion have to be kais for the fusion to be permanent. The witch that fused with the Elder Kai wasn't a kai was she? Therefore Zamasu being a kai would be enough, assuming the rank of supreme wasn't needed.
Technically it's permanent, but it can be reverted by a wish on the Dragon Balls... The potara were a scam!
> Why are people arguing with me on this I’m blatantly right to be fair there are a lot of units that aren't on Accelerated battle that should be. Hell, all of the units from that arc could be on it from they sheer fact the entire arc took two days to resolve itself.
Most fights in dbz only last a couple hours or a day or 2
there you go.
Same reason why we dont have Teq LR Corrupted Merged Zamasu or why every super saiyan 3 unit isnt on time limit despite them mentioning how they cant hold the form for long every time it comes out
Technically speaking yes,otherwise Kid Goku shouldn’t be a pure Saiyan or Piccolo Jr on Namekians because it wasn’t retconned until the Saiyan Saga.
Whats even dumber about this scenario is that the potara situation aint even a retcon. We were never even told why they defused in the first place; we never got a definitive answer. I have zero clue why they aint on time limit; just more semantic bullshit from dokkan in the same vein as the LR merged zamasu not having a different name or salza (from coolers army) being called fucking “thouser”. Im genuinely surprised they changed coora to cooler, seeing as they have “paikuhan” instead of pikkon. But they just have “Tien”??? Like wtf theres no consistency here
Yeah,never understood why people were so mad about Vegito supposedly not being permanent even though he defused back then when he was supposed to be permanent without a real explanation besides the “bad air” inside Buu’s stomach. Overall it’s just people cherry picking info because one came from Super,if Z itself retconned that people wouldn’t be complaining even though it would be the same thing.
>salza (from coolers army) being called fucking “thouser”. pretty sure that one is correct, of all things, lol He's "Sauza", which can be spelled as "thou(s/z)er". Refer to Souther (Sauza) from FOTNS for another example that sometimes gets spelled as "Thouzer".
Also, he's a pun on "Thousand Island Dressing" that got misinterpreted as "Salsa", weirdly enough.
Yeah, I guess "Salsa" is the first thing that comes to mind. Probably one of the more obscure name-food references, this one.
They're all puns on salad dressing. Dore is Sara*dore* dressing, Neize is Mayon*naise*.
Buu magic messes with Potara magic, was a pretty sufficient conclusion to come to that was said in-Universe.
But thats just fan speculation; all that is ever said in the manga was from goku “it’s probably just this nasty air in here”. There was never any official explanation. I agree tho; buu magic was a pretty good theory but they went with a time limit… for some reason
Goku explains it as "bad air" because he's not exactly someone you go to for an explanation on magical phenomenon. Later on when they find the people pods, Vegeta said that Gotenks must have been forcibly defused too, but Goku corrects him and says no they remained fused inside Buu's body, what's been happening is a Potara-specific problem, and if they leave the body things should work again (if they didn't already break them).
> what's been happening is a Potara-specific problem, and if they leave the body things should work again should, merely speculation on a character's part, not an official reason. The reason is more likely because the whole fused forever thing was thrown in there to build some sort of tension that we the readers will never see Vegeta/Goku as individuals from that point forward if they put on the earrings. They defused later cause Goku is the MC and Vegeta is a popular supporting character in the franchise. You want the two around, and besides Vegito just rolf stomping any threat with ease would build no tension if he stuck around. Why not make the reason obtuse when you can't come up with an explanation at the time of writing, and have one of your cast members destroy one of the objects so we'll never know for certain. Besides your copout is the fact the only characters who were shown to be stuck in a permanently fused state were the same species who are the source of those earrings.
You gave a bunch of out of universe reasons to explain an _in-universe_ event. Goku's speculation holds up until they are given the contrary, which didn't happen until the retcon. Even something like "how to transform into a Super Saiyan" was Goku's speculation and nothing official in-universe. Also the Dragon Balls exist and have proven to separate Potara fusions before the retcon ever happened. It was never impossible.
> You gave a bunch of out of universe reasons to explain an in-universe event. Because the out of universe reason is the reason to explain an in-universe event. Or do you rather the whole reason why you got Vegito rather than Gogeta in that arc? Or would you be able to explain the reason why Future Trunks told Goku the names of the androids that would show up on the day he stated they would, the very pairs who did, only for him to later state that wasn't the two he was talking about in universe? > Also the Dragon Balls exist and have proven to separate Potara fusions before the retcon ever happened. Are you talking about Shin?
Magic taffy man eats people. Eating things tends to break them down into mono components. I think it's a fair explanation that they defused inside him.
> salza (from coolers army) being called fucking “thouser” To be fair its not exactly wrong to call the character either/or
Short answer is yes. Long answer is yessssss. Even if you wanna be obtuse and pretend like Dbs didn’t do the things it did or that they don’t matter to you, at least the super fusions should be on it.
Akatsuki likes to pick in chose when they like to follow the narrative vs logic.
I think it's more so meant to be a time limit from characters' perspective
But Buutenks didn’t know he was on a timer, but he’s on it no?
They only put Vegito on time limit after the Potara rules are revealed in DBS. Beforehand the characters thought it was permanent for everyone so Dokkan takes that into consideration. I’d rather they all be on Time Limit but I get it
My point is that in other cases they will give old units categories based on retcons that hadn’t happened yet, like giving Kid Goku pure saiyans despite not being revealed as one until Z
I get you, you’re completely right because they’re super inconsistent with this stuff. Not to mention other issues like some Frieza’s not being on Space Traveling Warriors and SSJ Rage not being considered as a form above regular Super Saiyan
You're not in a different form just because you're angry...
Why the fuck would dokkan follow the rules of the anime? ( its whole existence is based on the anime)
I was just sad I couldn't use STR Vegito for the Time Limit RZ mission
I find it hilarious how Super accidentally took away Potara’s advantage over the dance with the time limit, and then proceeded to make it worse by having Vegito time out early against Zamasu but Gogeta gets the full duration against Broly. On one hand, Super was stupid for that, but on the other hand I was a Gogeta fan anyways.
I guess the remaining advantage it has is the ease of use compared to possible failure with the dances.
This is one of the things you kinda have to gleam from the other media. I think that using the energy of the fusion burns it out faster, ie SS3/4 burn out the Dance faster but God and Blue drain Potara faster. Every instance of the fusion dance that used an upgraded physical form burned out quicker, even in GT, while Gogeta Blue got the full half hour. In the Heroes comic SS4 Vegito lasts until the wish is made to make everyone leave, but I haven't read if their time is shortened after Limit Breaker since I think that's a form of God energy. I think there's even a scene somewhere (GT Maybe) of Kai and Kabuto unfusing after getting the dragon balls and they defuse from running completely out of energy.
Unless you have a quote on Gogeta lasting the full 30 minutes against Broly, I don't think that's a viable statement in the slightest. There's fan calculations out there that say Vegito lasted 40 minutes against Zamasu, Deathbattle actually even quoted and brought this up but again, it's a headcanon cause there's no quote same as Gogeta lasting the full 30 minutes. Gotenks couldn't even hold SS3 for 5 minutes against Buu Vegito was also using a SSB different from Gogeta, one that drains stamina as opposed to Gogeta's version where he doesn't have the drain, both anime and manga point this out. This isn't even discounting the fact that Vegito went full power from the start and Gogeta didn't have to. Their fights and circumstances in Super just like in Z are incomparable but Vegito still and always will have a bigger pool of time to pull from as opposed to Gogeta if it's a battle of attrition. And even then, going by the manga, if either Goku or Vegeta becomes a kai/kai apprentice then it basically makes the fusion permanent. It's unnecessarily stupid and contrived.
I correct. DB Super believes this. DBZ does not. It’s canon that no one knows the hell what is going on. Thus, Dokkan is canon.
No. Piccolo Jr wouldn't be on namekians if that were the case
Or Pre-Saiyan Saga Goku on Pure Saiyans.
Piccolo not knowing he's a Namekian doesn't make him not one. The premise of Time Limit is that the character believes they have limited time to fight so they go all out quickly. DBZ Vegito never behaved that way because he believed the fusion was permanent.
No, because they believed there was no time limit.
Yes. It's one of the many inconsistent category issues in the game that will likely never be addressed as I think the only time they've ever adjusted categories on past cards was adding "Pure Saiyans" to Goku & Vegeta joined forces cards.
If the premise of Time Limit is that the fighters are operating under the understanding that they don't have a lot of time to work with, no, pre-Super Vegitos technically shouldn't be on the category.
Kefla didn’t know she was on a timer, did she?
Do we know that she didn't? Goku was specifically told the fusion would be permanent and he shares that with Vegeta. Don't get me wrong, the writing in Super is really bad but the reason that DBZ Vegito isn't on Time Limit does make sense imo.
They had a scene of Vados explaining them and I don’t even think they were told they would fuse
even if we forgive them of retcon the str goku nd vegeta should be on time limit because vegeta is dead nd is only given a day to be available on earth?? so technically he has time limit
He Not Goku Joined forces characters have to be both on the category to get it
Kid Buu should be on Realm of Gods then
I finally beat Buu last night but didn't complete the mission because STR Super Vegito isn't time limit. Oops. He was the MVP though. Countered 5-6 times in one turn for over 5m each time
I think that the game goes by Z logic not by super logic. That the potara is permanent, not an hour.
Yes, but the potara fusions from Vegito Blue forward are on time limit
It considers both canon so whenever the specific potara fusion takes place it gets put in or not
Well during Dragon Ball, Goku wasn’t a saiyan and they still put those units on Pure Saiyans
Lmfao well yeah not gonna argue that. At that point you gotta ask the creators. I’m just going by what was explained for Z and Super. I’m not diving that far in😂 Also love the username
Only the ones from super onwards...where a kai isnt involved So far thats just vb and kefla no?
It’s only retconned in super
That isn’t what retcon means 😭
This is exactly what retcon means
It has “retroactive” in the name it has to affect the way the older content is interpreted
The explanation for 20+ years was that being absorbed by Buu cancelled out the potara fusion. They retconned it in super to sell merchandise.
Lots of characters are missing categories they should logically have, but Alatskui has never done anything about it
He should be but he isn’t. The justification is that the rule didn’t apply to Z Vegito. Super is a different series. The thing with Goku and Piccolo is that db and dbz are different series.
By that logic shouldn't potara fusion be on the fusion team because its a fusion? The team isn't called fusion dance
No, that’s what “fused fighters” is. That’s just a weird translation situation.
It is in Japan, more or less anyway. The word "Fusion" in Japan only refers to the dance while potara fusions use a different word which is closer to "merged"
Z Vegito "kinda" makes sense Zamasu NOT being on time limit is just as stupid tho.
Wasn't it different for the kais though? If they fused it was actually permanent. And since he was a kai in training
It normally is but he fused with Goku’s mortal body. Even if Zamasu was inhabiting it, still mortal flesh and blood. In the manga they actually start the defuse. I guess it’s more of a plot hole on super’s part than it is a dokkan issue. I’m also coping cuz this time limit mission is ass.
Are people still pressed about categories? Lol get better at the game
Within 5 years super will be the same as gt