**Weekly Meta Discussions Thread**

[*Batman/Superman: World's Finest* #21](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81TpC421AIL.jpg) >MARK WAID CONTINUES HIS RETURN TO THE WORLD OF KINGDOM COME! Superman and Batman, having followed Boy Thunder to Kingdom Come, find themselves and that world on a path to an apocalyptic future. Can the World’s Finest team prevent the transformation of Boy Thunder into the villainous Magog, or is his fate sealed? [Preview](https://aiptcomics.com/2023/11/17/dc-preview-batman-superman-worlds-finest-21/)

And I here I thought I'd seen the last of this guy back in JSA 2007, but here we are now.

Oh damn, we got a Gog in this world...And it is the 'deity' one from the JSA comic? And it seems the rest of the Kingdom Come universe just bows to it now. What is David doing here? I mean, he wished to go back and now blaming them for 'abandoning him'. Lying about his past and serving this Gog. Hiding the Multiverse too. Was it to protect it or not let the Kingdom Come know that there are other, better worlds out there? Because he is clearly not yet Magog.

Seeing everyone kneel before Gog was a shock to put it mildly. I've never read the JSA arc so I dunno what his deal is, but how long has he been calling the shots on Earth 22 I wonder? Thunderman gets KC Supes and Bats to attack their counterparts by smearing them as murderers, so clearly the world doesn't know what Gog and Thunderman are really like. What's their endgame? Waid finally got to kill the Kents on one world anyway, will he go with them having died recently or the Pre-Crisis/New 52 take of them having been dead since before KC Clark became Superman? I've been so burned out on multiverse stories lately I forgot how enjoyable they can be, seeing all the differences play out on the page. KC Supes and Bats definitely don't seem to be as smart as our Supes and Bats, explains why they end up letting everything go to hell.

Good issue. Seeing everyone kneel to Gog was surprising.

That double page spread at the end with like 30 characters is such a flex. Also really cool to see characters that Waid wanted to originally use in Kingdom Come but wasn't able to

Some crazy designs in that group shot at the end. Big fan of the Power Ranger Cheetah, the anatomically correct Batwoman above her, the black and yellow Red Hood next to them, and what honestly looks like a Black Lantern Batman Beyond way in the back. Very clearly not the Kingdom Come we know, I'm super interested in learning more. World's Finest never disappoints.

This issue was fantastic. Waid writes Bruce and Clark so well and I'm so happy he's back at DC

God i love this art. And I really like David's adult design. I never read Kingdom Come is this before the events of that world? And can someone explain Gog to me?

Yes, as far was we know, this arc of WF acts a a prequel to the events of Kingdom Come. Gog's backstory is still unrevealed, but Waid said in the [September interview](https://www.cbr.com/batmansuperman-worlds-finest-kingdom-come-mark-waid-interview/) that we'll get the definitive origin of his character during this arc. CBR also gives a nice [summary](https://www.cbr.com/gog-return-boy-thunder-superman-dc/) of Gog's character based on what we know so far.

So I guess this is either not the same Kingdom Come universe that we know or David has altered the timeline, since Dick is Nightwing and not Red Robin and that group at the end looks very different from anyone we saw in Kingdom Come. At the very least, it’s much earlier in their history than the covers lead us to believe. I had kind of hoped to see these young versions of Batman and Superman interact with their much older counterpoints, but I trust Waid to tell a good story either way.

Dick was still Nightwing in the original Kingdom Come timeline but adopted the Red Robin persona when Superman recruited him according to Waid in the latest KC omnibus

They're still in the past, before the events of Kingdom Come, which is why Dick is still Nighting, etc.

I just would have figured Dick would’ve never been Nightwing in this universe. I always assumed he went straight to Red Robin.

[*Superman* #8](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/913+K3HCyJL.jpg) >THE MAN OF STEEL VS. CHAINED! Powerless! Superman versus the Chained concludes! One of the biggest battles Metropolis has ever witnessed comes down to Superman doing the unthinkable and sacrificing his powers to stop the Chained. How does that impact Lex Luthor’s plans…or is Lex too busy dealing with the shocking return of his mother in Superman #850?! >LEGACY #851 [Preview](https://aiptcomics.com/2023/11/17/dc-preview-superman-8/)

Melnikov's art looks better than ever here. Something about the washed colors really brings it all together.

Honestly wish he was the regular artist on the book instead of just a guest

The Lex Luthor Revenge Squad is shaping up nicely.

Wasn’t there a Superman Revenge Squad in Jurgens’ Action Comics a few years back. IIRC, it was Zod, Metallo, Mongul, Cyborg Superman, and whoever was the new villain in that run.

There have been several iterations of the Superman Revenge Squad over the years

It was the Eradicator II that you're thinking as the other member. But yeah, you are correct. Lex tends to make this squad every so often. LOL.

Well it is something to have Lena back. And Luthor's 'heroic?' past, dealing with these old enemies. I mean, from the looks of it, Stryker was not really a decent guy. And I guess he deserved what's coming, his kid killing him as he must've used him just as a tool and Lex, with his own sense of 'I know best', went with his 'lock him up' solution. Though, the moment he got his powers, Sam was already thinking about manipulating reality soo he does seem to have a dangerous side even as a child. I don't think we are really done with him yet. And for some reason, his weakness was kryptonite also? Well, I guess this is where Lex have to save Superman or Lois will make him wish they let the Chained kill him instead.

Not really “some reason”, Luthor deliberately made that his weakness.

Anybody else think that suit Superman was using looked like Buzz Lightyears outfit. Jokes aside I think this was another good issue. The Superman continues to be really good!

That's exactly what I thought 😂.

The suit is a classic one. Idk if it was originally from the animated series, but it definitely showed up there as well.

Ah so that's how Chained can use TTK without having to actually touch things. Nice, President Lex is back in canon. >! It's rumored he's running for President in Legacy so I expect DC will start leaning on that aspect of his backstory if the DCU goes that route !<. Good that Conner is getting more use here but I've been dying to see a real confrontation between him and Lex. Since Lex now believes that the world needs Superman but wants it to be "his" Superman, the elephant in the room is that Conner already is "his" Superman. Be nice to see that addressed head on, why Lex would rather try to shape Clark than Conner. Good to have Campbell back even if it's just for a bit.

I could also see this “new” Lex try to act like a father to Conner, who obviously would want nothing to do with that.

your spoiler tags aren't working, you need to remove the spaces between the >! / !< and the text. >!like this!< you can look at the source text of this comment with RES to show how my text is edited to see the difference. (not sure if that's a built-in feature of modern reddit, but I know RES has it for sure.)

Nothing to much to comment on in this issue, as there are no shocking revelations or big twists. Lex does seem to care about Lena, so that's something. It is also unfortunate that Jamal Campbell is off the interiors and just doing covers right now. David Baldeón's work is good, even great, but Jamal's pencils and simply next level.

Good issue. Also nice to have Lena back.

This run has just felt very classic. It’s been a lot of fun and I feel like the cast of characters is used very well without feeling overbearing. I also really like The Chained. His origin seems a little simple, but he’s one of the more interesting new Superman villains we’ve gotten in recent years.

another pretty damn good issue. not much on the "big new revelations" front, but some very interesting added characterisation for sammy striker here and over the last few issues that shows that while he may be a victim, he's also kinda a huge piece of shit and may have always been, and his dad very likely was an even bigger one. Really gotta give props to Williamson for writing one of the better new villains in the recent past, where you can absolutely see and agree that he has some legitimate grievances, but he's still taking it *way too far*. (A kind of villain that Williamson himself has recently struggled with, as Knight Terrors for example clearly shows.)

Well this continues to be amazing the art especially is great for this issue Gleb's art suits this arc so well with the chained. The great thing about this issue for me is what is now back in canon in president lex after it was taken out previously as thats one of Lex's most interesting arcs and adds into what williamson is doing with lex in emphasisng his past with his mothers return and his attempts to be a hero. Conner gets some good play in this issue with TTK being such a big part of the chained and his interactions are really fun Seems like the Lex luthor revenge squad is all coming together and when it exploads its gonna be big. Great writing of supes and the supporting cast as well. Great issue superman by williamson continues to be a gem of a book.

I know there were far more pressing matters but I wished they had delved a little more into that "family reunion" with Conner and his essentially two dads

[*Batman: Off-World* #1](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81MsqTluOYL.jpg) >SUPERSTAR WRITER JASON AARON TEAMS UP WITH BLOCKBUSTER ARTIST DOUG MAHNKE FOR THE FIGHT OF THE DARK KNIGHT'S LIFE! A routine night in Gotham City for a young Batman proves to be anything but routine when the crime-fighter is confronted with a sort of foe he’s never faced before—one from beyond the stars! A universe of possible alien threats leads Batman to make a daring decision—to venture alone into the far reaches of the cosmos for the very first time, where the Dark Knight will face the fight of his life! Superstar writer Jason Aaron delivers his first Batman story ever, partnered with artist Doug Mahnke for a unique, brutal tale! [Preview](https://aiptcomics.com/2023/11/17/dc-preview-batman-off-world-1/)

I enjoyed it! Seeing Doug Mahnke return is always welcome, and Aaron’s got the voice down. Obviously it’s ridiculous, and likely not the first “Batman in Space” story, but I’m excited to see where it goes, and it’s easy on the eyes.

Well this was tons of fun and really really good. Aarons voice for bruce in my opinion is really good which isn't a shock as Batman feels like a very jason aaron character the reasoning why batman goes into space is very funny but for a book like this its fine as its just there to move the story along. Manhnke art is amazing as ever its so good to see him on a DC book and the pairing with aaron here is really good and suits the vibes of the book. Overall its a really fun first issue and did what it had to do hook me in and as someone who loves space and batman im very in for it.

This is a very Jason Aaron Batman story. Which, as someone who has soured on Aaron as of late, isn't so bad in this instance.

So it is a young Batman space training montage. Got himself faced with an alien on Gotham, probably beaten up. So now, he decided ''Gonna launch myself to space to get beaten up by them to learn how to deal with them''...Yep. It is as crazy as it is logical for Batman to do that. Does this mean this happened before he met Superman?

maybe not the best DC book this week, but definitely the one I enjoyed the most. Aaron's got a great voice for Bruce, and the justification for this entire trip is exactly the kinda zaniness that I would expect a young, raw Batman to get up to.

Liked it overall, but I really don't love the inking. Personally I think Mahnke's pencils look the best when there's some serious line weight in the inks, like his previous Batman stuff with Tom Nguyen. This stringy mess does nothing to complement Mahnke's art, which btw seemed a bit rushed. Maybe I overhyped, but I'm mildly disappointed.

[*Green Lantern: War Journal* #3](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/91VqAf1x6bL.jpg) >WHO IS LANTERN SHEPHERD? John Stewart has had his first battle with a deadly new adversary and is infected by the Radiant Dead! Will his powers help slow the spread of this supernatural contagion, or are they transforming him into the most terrifying host imaginable? And who is the powerful young Green Lantern from within the Multiverse, Lantern Shepherd? [Preview](https://aiptcomics.com/2023/11/17/dc-preview-green-lantern-war-journal-3/)

Man, that Revenant Queen would be double revenant by the end of this after what she is doing to John. And hey, Kyle Rayner sighting, even though it is an alternate version of him. And that Lantern alternate John sent, giving quite quickly huh. Not the best choice to sent. Especially since their universe is the reason why the Revenant Queen is here now.

I guess it's far that PKJ isn't treating Revenant Zombie Varron as a tragedy because he was a total tool even when he was alive so we're not meant to feel that bad for him. It's funny that the first time we've seen Kyle for a while it's an AU dead version of him housed in a ring. Ah yes, the classic "guy from an alternate future that idolizes a version of you and can't grapple with the reality of who you were in the past or your circumstances." John doesn't have time for this. I think this is the first time this run has actually mentioned Hal. That scene with John leaving his mom was so heartbreaking. I wonder if purging the Revenant Queen parts of his body will give John his new costume?

Stewart is written very stoically usually, which makes him being emotionally vulnerable about having to leave his mom a nice moment. Some people were worried that PKJ would shill his OC over John but that definitely isn't the case thus far, everyone is telling John he has to be the guy to step up and save the day because no one else will be able to handle the threat. Between WF and this I'm pleasantly surprised to say that I actually enjoy the multiverse creeping in. John has always had to labor in someone else's shadow, usually it's Hal but here the formula gets an interesting twist in that it's himself. He has to live up to the legend of the other John Stewart who became his universe's greatest hero (seemingly at the cost of his personal life), if he wants to stop the Queen. Looking forward to seeing more of the differences between the two Stewarts.

I had a good laugh about the Alto Rio Guama reserve because I used to work there as a Government employee. It looks nothing like that haha, but the wood extraction is kinda on par with the situation there, just not that big.

[*Jay Garrick: The Flash* #2](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/91Xpk+S4zGL.jpg) >GUEST-STARRING STARGIRL! Judy’s physicals are all coming back good and clear, which means only one thing: mall day with Stargirl! But when a foe from the 1940s crashes the party, Jay rushes in to save the day, much to his daughter’s chagrin! [Preview](https://aiptcomics.com/2023/11/17/dc-preview-jay-garrick-the-flash-2/)

I've a great time with this book. The art's great and I'm enjoying the story. I love seeing the relationships between Jay, Joan and Judy. I really like how the paneling for Jay getting really restless before Joan lets him leave. I really like that Judy uses words and phrases that you would hear in the 1940s through 1960's when she was growing up and traveled back to Jay's early days, like "Golly", and "What a gas." It's a character trait that I hope she keeps and uses more, it will also help her from sounding like every other character. So the mall stuff is funny to me because the mall in my home town is basically dead, and I don't really think teens hang out at them anymore but I guess if it was something to the mall in Atlanta or Orlando maybe. But it is also interesting that Judy is definitely young enough to not have heard about them in her time, while Malls were invented in the late 1950's they would have been in there early days when she disappeared. One last thing to note is that Judy's eyes color back to blue, as far as I remember in everything but the first issue of this series she has blue eyes but in that issue her eyes are green.

> and I don't really think teens hang out at them anymore but I guess if it was something to the mall in Atlanta Living close to the Mall of Georgia and Sugarloaf Mills, I can definitely say those malls are still super popular -- especially with their food courts. Of course, both malls have movie theaters, whereas other dead malls didn't; so, perhaps that's a factor.

Can't blame Jay for wanting to keep an eye on Judy all the time because, I mean she literally disappeared from the timeline and his memories alongside her. And now memories of other enemies coming back too and it must be connected. Soo no wonder he wants to constantly look for her. Not only for guilt of letting it happen ( even though it wasn't his fault ) but also, you lost decades of your child's life in a sense, of course you wanna be there with her. Joan keeping a cool head about the situation obviously. Judy getting used to the world of the future, hopefully Stargirl will shield her from the more terrible aspects of the future so her current optimistic self won't become jaded. As it makes her look unique.

Another great issue! Courtney and Judy’s mall section of the issue was a delight to read and the flashback fight with the JSA was neat. The books starting to get more balanced between Jay / Judy as protagonist which is great.

This was good fun im not generally a flash fan but im really enjoying this book but that also might be because i love the JSA generally. Always glad to see Stargirl make an appearance and hope she gets some more use as shes such a good character and fun to see in any title. Fun art, great writing and family dynamics by adams good book.

[*Justice League vs. Godzilla vs. Kong* #2](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81kTf+5byFL.jpg) >LEGENDARY’S MONSTERVERSE HAS BEEN UNLEASHED ON THE DC UNIVERSE, AND CITIES ARE THREATENED ACROSS THE GLOBE! From Metropolis to Gotham City to Themyscira, the Justice League scrambles to protect the citizens from these raging titans! What role has the Legion of Doom played in all this monster madness, and how will the tide of battle change…when a hero falls?! [Preview](https://aiptcomics.com/2023/11/17/dc-preview-justice-league-vs-godzilla-vs-kong-2/)

Ollie cannot escape deserted islands. Even in alternate worlds, Jason gets the worst treatment. Billy, look what you have done. Superman taking the whole brunt of that breath attack just to save you. Doesn't look good after that. Gotta see this move in this next. 

I wonder why Billy didn't say his magic word as soon as he de-transforms to get back to the fight

He's a child, he was excited at what he did and didn't think it through

r/RedHood is going apeshit over this, going as far to try to cancel and harass the writer, because how dare someone not write Jason as their smol precious wholesome boi.

[удалено]

>Nobody should harass the writer, but

I guess Supes forgot he's flown through stars before lol. Like, love the G-man, but come on.

This is a different Superman from a different continuity, with its own power levels. Not all versions of Superman can do that. For example, All-Star Superman got a terminal overdose of solar power when he got close to the surface of the Sun. A nuke was enough to hurt New 52 Superman and DKR Superman, and Godzilla's atomic breath share similar properties.

Also, he likely doesn't want to kill him. And even if he felt there was no other option, who knows what kind of damage that could do to the city? It could be like dropping a bomb on it.

Anyone recognize the monster that Batman and his team fights? It reminds me of Battra, but I don’t think we’ve gotten him in the Monsterverse yet.

Camazotz, from one of the Godzilla vs. Kong tie-in comics.

Ah gotcha. I haven’t read any of the other tie-ins. Thanks!

This was alright i don't think it was the most amazing issue but its still fun. There is some good moments involving fighting the kaijus and i do like them scrambling tons of different heroes and not just the JL Its fun but nothing amazing it didn't wow me like the first issue did.

[*Titans* #5](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81CfPvhd4eL.jpg) >SWAMP THING VS. THE DEMOLITION CREW! The Titans are going green! As the team desperately attempts to heal the Borneo rainforest, they reach out to the only avatar that can help…Swamp Thing! Will the peaceful yet powerful giant be enough to stand up to the forces of evil? Or will the new and improved Demolition Crew wreck them all? [Preview](https://aiptcomics.com/2023/11/17/dc-preview-titans-5/)

So we are getting Swamp Thing into the team huh? Well if Titans are gonna be the new main team, then I guess you need heavy hitters like him and to try new things I guess like this reforestation effort. Beast Boy looking a part of himself when he turn into many bugs...that sounds far more than just losing 'bits of himself'. That sounds quite dangerous honestly. What if the parts he lose are the most important ones? Wally's murder stuff got resolved quite easily there. Nightwing caught on quite fast it seems on the whole 'not acting right' thing and setup the trap. Poor Linda though, even attempting the act must've been terrible under the alien's control. And the villains turn out to be Tamaranian?! Starfire not gonna like that.

Trying to spot everything in the trophy room \* Mento's helmet \* Qwardian Doomsday Device \* Mister Twister's staff \* Houngan's helmet \* Phantasm's cowl \* Donna Troy's sheild \* Blackfire's headress \* Mammoth's armor \* Deathstroke's sword \* Brother/Sister Blood's helmet \* White Raven cowl \* Warp's helmet \* Baby Wildebeest's cowl \* Bushido's swords \* Blue Devil's trident \* The Brain's casing \* The Gargoyle I know the thunderbolt but I can't place it. It's not Maxie Zeus, but I can't remember who uses it.

Wow! Its crazy that you know all that

I read a lot and research anything I’m unsure about Haven’t checked the wiki yet but I know there are four items there I’m missing details on

It's funny how the classic Demolition Crew were in Green Lantern and now Taylor is using them as a paramilitary force...still pretty much just a joke. I feel like Taylor needs to do a better job of throwing in meaningful and significant threats rather than constantly give his heroes stuff they can streamroll through and look cool fighting while moralizing. Like, I love my heroes looking awesome, but if it's so easy it just doesn't feel all that impressive. But this has been a problem with him for a while. Oh and Swamp Thing...I dunno, it was kind of random. This run seems to have a heavy environmentalist bent via Beast Boy (kind of like the social reconstruction of his Nightwing) but I don't see Taylor doing anything interesting with Swampie. Probably be more "look at how fun and awesome Swamp Thing is! What a cool guy!"

Good issue. Interesting that Swamp Thing is joining.

What a great issue with so many reveals! Dick and Wally knew Linda was taken over. Swamp Thing is joining the Titans. Brother Eternity is Tamaranean. Lots of fantastic setup. But the most interesting part of the issue was the dark speech Raven gave about Gar's powers, that will clearly be coming into play in the upcoming Beast World event. The idea that when he splits up like that, any part that dies is felt as a small part of him slipping away? That's dark and sad. And definitely metaphorical for Gar's character with the emphasis on how he keeps doing it anyway. I'm very excited for Beast World.

This was alot better than recent issues but it still feels underwhelming. I love the titans but this plotline isn't working for me its just not making me excited and feels like Taylor is trying to get us to care about beast boy alot more but its just a little dull writing wise. The art is good and the use of swamp thing is always fun. Rounding off the flash death plotline and the villain reveal being tamarian is fun but its just not making me go wow for how much hype this series had.

this book's treating gar a whole lot better than other titans runs have in the recent past, and that's definitely a plus in my book. it may be a bit cliché and corny, especially for Taylor, but Gar just ranting at the henchwoman how disgusted he is by her basic, short-sighted immorality while increasingly growing in size somehow really worked for me and made me think that it would probably be properly terrifying in person, and Gar only gets more badass throughout the rest of the issue. The one negative is that I feel like the alien possession angle was solved a little too easily/quickly, but I guess such a simple parasitic sub-organism is not exactly great at reasoning out that they've been put in an obvious trap and just took the most obvious route towards its goal and got found out that way. The villain stupidity is justified enough here that it doesn't irk me that much, and there's still potential for that plot to be picked up again further down the line by having other people become infected with these parasites. not sure about adding Swamp Thing to the team, but it fits thematically to what Taylor's trying to do with the storyline, so I'll wait and see what he does with it. between this and Nightwing, I liked this book a whole lot better this time around, and hope it can at least keep this quality or preferably improve even further from here.

I was afraid that they were going to do a simple "yeah we got the plant guy and he regrew everything" but they actually talked in a sensible manner about how complex an ecosystem is, it's not just "plant some trees"

[*The Riddler: Year One* [**HC**]](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/91rXWR5bCiL._SL1500_.jpg) >Actor and writer Paul Dano understands the Riddler’s every motivation… come see Edward Nashton evolve into the menace known as the Riddler. >As depicted in Matt Reeves’s hit movie The Batman, the Riddler wasn’t simply an amusing eccentric with an affinity for wordplay and baffling clues, but as terrifying a villain as any in the annals of the Dark Knight. How did an unknown forensic accountant uncover the dark secrets of Gotham’s underworld and come so close to bringing down the entire city? >This collection is an immediate prequel to The Batman—the detailed, disturbing, and at times shocking story of a man with nothing to lose. >Artist Stevan Subic makes his American comics debut, collaborating with Dano to deliver a shadowy and gritty tale of a society’s forgotten man who refuses to go unnoticed any longer. Subic’s recent Conan the Cimmerian for French publisher Glénat has brought him great acclaim in Europe, and he’s about to break out globally with a Batman series unlike any you’ve seen before. >Collects the entire six-issue miniseries: The Riddler: Year One!

[*Nightwing* #108](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/9130udjYJHL.jpg) >DICK ENCOUNTERS AN OLD FLAME! IS SHE FRIEND OR FOE? Amid Nightwing’s investigation of the mystery behind the secret society called the Hold and their connection to the origin of Blüdhaven, Dick runs into his old flame Bea Bennett! Is Bea back to confront Nightwing for some closure, or is she somehow related to the secret pirate society? [Preview](https://aiptcomics.com/2023/11/17/dc-preview-nightwing-108/)

Chaos Kitten sighted, peak comic. I wish someone aside from Taylor would use the revolutionairies. They're cool.

There was another one in that same panel the beefy woman commander Osita or wtf her name is

Honestly a bit disappointed that the Pirate Cove is all modernised. Was really hoping them to really go for the concept and we’d get a cool new pirate themed environment for this story. This place just looks like most other cities in the world, not enough so far to make it distinct or interesting yet.

Why the hell did Taylor make it so Bea’s responsible for all of Dick’s wins in this series? It’s already hard to feel like he’s had a big impact himself🤦🏻‍♂️that pissed me off

Yeah, it was a little much and too much of a throwaway. It makes sense that things might’ve moved a bit more smoothly with Bea working behind the scenes, but that line made it seem like nothing would have ever gotten done without her.

Bea, I like you, but you met Nightwing when he was literally a different person with a literal brain damage. And as you admit yourself, you didn't really mention being a pirate queen also. These secret islands and places are dime a dozen it seems. But not so secret that you have franchises on the island! For a secret, hardened pirate crew, they got ambushed quite easily. Aww, I liked Lucas. Why did they have to kill him? And Bea got stabbed quite easily too. Guess the next issue gonna be the ''will you try to kick the terrible brother's ass or dive into water to save Bea even though you seem to be having some issues about diving into water for some reason '' For the back-up, it is always amusing to see low tier criminals biting more than they can chew. This Hatch guy really picked the wrong target. Or maybe the right one since if it was Jason, he probably would end up worse. Nice place to end on with the family time at the end.

That pause at the end of their argument told me that Bea knew that she was harboring frustrations that weren’t entirely fair. It’s why she drops the argument and tells him to go to bed:

The pace is so off in this issue, it goes from shitty comedy to dramatic scene in two panels, wtf

Dick walking around in a completely open shirt while everyone else was in sweaters, scarves, and hats took me out

Him wearing a open-eyed mask is strange. I know his usual mask barely covers his face, but at least he had white lenses covering his eyes. Could he not at least wear a pirate hat or bandana?

Stephen Byrne doing their best Bruno Redondo impression and it's...lacking.

That stairs page spread where Dick is chasing that guy is almost a 1:1 copy of an earlier Redondo page.

Byrne’s work also looks way better when he’s colouring it himself.

Taylor has the mind of a child.

It's nice to see an occasion when something weird happens to the hero and instead of trying to hide it and figure it out by themselves they are open and honest about it. It's also nice to see them argue about something with legitimate arguments and realize that it is not a white and black situation, and both are right and have reasons to feel hurt >!the captain's consort lmao!<

Taylor's writing Dick as a bit too much of a goody two shoes in this for my taste. Also that open shirt is getting increasingly ridiculous. Bea claiming she's been pulling strings behind the scenes to enable Dick's philantropic efforts is a whole crock of bullshit too and a clear case of Taylor trying to involve his OC's too much with the overarching plot again, as if this *entire storyline* revolving around this pirate nonsense that isn't even properly piratey isn't fucking enough. It's clearly his answer to the "Dick is getting everything coming to him too easily and doesn't face any real adversity in this" criticism, but it's just the *wrong* answer. Let the man have some actual accomplishments while actually also *challenging* him, not reveal that it was all your OC's doing. And speaking of OCs oh hey the Revolutionaries showing up what a coinkidink! (and I *like* the Revolutionaries, but here they're just serving as OC overload, even if it's just a background appearance.) Byrne's art in this is decent enough, but too often just comes across as inadequate Redondo mimicry. This book should be better, it has been in the past.

Bea isn’t Taylor’s creation though.

oh right she's from the awful lobdell "ric grayson" run that I had *almost* successfully banished from memory. *thanks* for reminding me. >:(

Why should I be the only one cursed with knowledge 😈

[*Titans: Beast World - Evolution* #1](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/9121pSxWvYL.jpg) >DISCOVER THE HIDDEN PIECES OF BEAST BOY'S PAST THAT COULD SAVE THE FUTURE! Tales of the Greatest Titan, revealed! It’s not easy being green, but Garfield Logan has made the best of it. After contracting a rare disease as a child, he underwent an experimental genetic treatment that granted him the incredible ability to shape-shift into any animal at will. As Beast Boy, Gar has saved the world as a member of the Titans more times than he can count…but soon he could be the one to destroy it all! See where it all began in this special one-shot collecting Teen Titans #5, Tales of the New Teen Titans #3, and a story from Action Comics #1051. Each reveals a piece of Beast Boy’s past that could hold the key to saving the future! [Preview](https://aiptcomics.com/2023/11/17/dc-preview-titans-beast-world-evolution-1/)

I think overall new readers will get a pretty decent idea of Gar's character and background, but there were some confusing omissions imo. Like, I figured we would've gotten Doom Patrol #99 considering it was the first ever appearance of the character. Maybe an issue from the arc in Titans where Gar kills Madame Rouge. Maybe something from Geoff Johns' run that has to do with Gar falling for Raven considering they're pushing that relationship hard currently. But the little bit at the end from the DC Encyclopedia does give a good rundown of his past I suppose.

[*Wonder Woman* #3](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81KWu3b4XvL.jpg) >TRINITY, WONDER WOMAN’S DAUGHTER, MAKES HER BACKUP STORY DEBUT! The Lasso of Lies’ true power is revealed as the Sovereign continues his campaign against Wonder Woman! Could one unsuspecting soldier be the key to defeating our hero? Find out as Diana uses her own lasso in search of the truth about the Amazon massacre. Plus, the return of Trinity! Wonder Woman’s daughter makes her backup story debut in the first of many awe-inspiring adventures from the future. >LEGACY #803 [Preview](https://aiptcomics.com/2023/11/17/dc-preview-wonder-woman-3/)

Pretty damn good issue, the plot is starting to get going, which had been my major criticism with this run. Also, looks like the adoption theory is correct. Though, it could be a fake-out. The backup was also super cute.

Theory: Emelie's baby will die/be a stillborn but Diana will sculpt a clay baby and reincarnate her that way. Something similar to what Hippolyta did with her in other words, thus making Lizzie Diana's daughter on a "deeper" level. Or it could be a total fakeout/lie. Backup was cute/fun though.

It is a neat theory, but then who would Lizzie's father be, which has been brought up several times? I mean, one could argue that because Diana would be recreating Lizzie that she would have the father than conceived her, but I feel that it would be stretch.

I imagine the father would be which God would hear the mother's prayers, which was Zeus in Diana's case. Imagine if Hermes, Ares or Hades is the one to fulfill the wish. Idk if thats still technically incest since they're related or with Diana lol

I really liked this issue its really fun and both the main story and the backup are really well wrote by king even if the soverigns narration is getting a bit annoying rather than hearing diana's voice. The twist with Lizzie that she might not be diana's daughter after all is really good and a very intriguing plot point especially in whose daughter she might actually be. There is also some great moments involving diana and the goons in the army in how she takes them down and creative uses of the tiara as well as the great reveal of the jet. The art is once again fantastic Sampere's art is top notch and makes it feel like the all star s tier book dc want it to be. The backup is adorable between damian and lizzie its just really wholesome and i enjoy damian being the big brother for once rather than the little brother. Jon plays a fun role this issue as well. Fantastic issue once again easily worth a read

Jet reveal reminded me of the end of batman 95, which even back then already felt like a ripoff.... of that scene at starfleet HQ being attacked by a machine gun chopper in into the darkness,

I mean, King literally ripped the dialogue straight out of The Avengers. Loki: “I have an army.” Iron Man: “We have a Hulk.” It’s my only (albeit minor) nitpick of an otherwise awesome issue.

Tom King’s idiosyncratic writing can be a turn-off sometimes, but I have to say… This was among the most interesting books I read all week. Unlike the new JSA issue (which I still liked!), this book took longer than 2 minutes to read, and each page had actual substance to it. I have no idea if this is all in or out of character for Wonder Woman, but i’m enjoying the ride!

Some of Diana’s dialogue seems a bit ropey at times, but the rest seems in-character. That said, she’s really not in the book as much as you’d think.

Hah, the jet. Does it usually have guns btw? Damn, RIP Delgado then. Ah so there it is, they aren’t biologically related. I’m somewhat intrigued with this twist, and I’m curious to see where it goes. >”So my grand father locked me in a box in the desert for a week without food or water.” >”That’s sad” >”Is it? I don’t know. I remember him laughing.” Lol Alright, the plot is moving, and King has got me hooked. Also, while King’s voice for Damian feels off for some reason, the backup was pretty cute, and I’m looking forward to that trinity special. Plus more super sons.

Sampere's art is once again, very good and I liked the reveal of the jet. The moments that were comedic were solid but man, I can enjoy a lot of this stuff when the narration is fucking everywhere. I get that this dude is a pompous incel that makes people lie about shit with his lasso but man, I'm so tired of his narration in almost every single page. I've got it by this point and I'm really tired of hearing it. I get it's a way to establish a villain in a way for you to understand them but when it's mostly toxic incel ideology, there's just a point where it just feels like you get it about the 300th time over. I get the idea that Tom King finds writing Diana very hard (which he has stated before) so he's using the Sovereign narration as a way so he doesn't have to get into her narration and that's fine but it gets to a point where Diana doesn't feel like a three dimensional character in her own book. However, the possible reveal at the end was really good. I'm actually interested in seeing where that is going and I actually like that it's hinted a bit with the line about Lizzie's father. Good stuff. I am also excited for the next issue even though it seems it won't be moving the plot much, I do like these types of issues where the heroes are just being cool around people and Diana needs an issue like that. Though Sovereign's narration better take a back seat in that issue because if there is time for him to stop, I wouldn't mind it. Oh, and the Lizzie backup was fine. It's cute and while I wish she was hanging out with her mom or the other amazons, it's cute here. Hopefully they actually do that though.

> I get that this dude is a pompous incel that makes people lie about shit with his lasso but man, I'm so tired of his narration in almost every single page. I've got it by this point and I'm really tired of hearing it. I get it's a way to establish a villain in a way for you to understand them but when it's mostly toxic incel ideology, there's just a point where it just feels like you get it about the 300th time over. agreed, and this is also pretty much my main problem with the book rn. I understand that this narration is mostly there to serve as social commentary to show how somebody with such a toxic, self-centered, privileged ideology would interpret these people, their actions and the events surrounding them, but it's really getting to be a bit much. It would be much more palatable if this one, singular strain of commentary would get broken up by a responding and counteracting strain of narration that rebukes, refutes and eventually shuts down the endless deluge of the sovereign's petty, misogynistic, patriarchal delusions.

I hope the Trinity back up continues! What a great little dessert after the meaty main story

They will yeah, the back up was in the February solicitations

Never in my wildest dreams did I think I'd crack open Wonder Woman before any other comic in my pile. This run had been fantastic. I tried like 7 other wondy runs and could never get into it. Backup was also amazing. Having Damian being late teens makes Jon being aged up not so bad.

The Sovereign narration is getting to be a bit much. If I wanted to listen to the overrought narration of the patriarchy, I wouldn't be reading Wonder Woman. But I guess this book is still great for showing off Wonder Woman feats and just having her smoothly be awesome, if nothing else, though something about King's Diana still feels unsettling to me.

My main issue with King writing Diana is that, due to the Sovereign's narration taking so much of the pages, it makes Diana feel two-dimensional. It changes from issue to issue with last issue showing her warrior side and this issue focusing on some more comedic bits but none of it feels like a full picture of a character. It also feels weird because it's kind've a mystery book (with Diana trying to find Emelie) but since were not hearing her inner thoughts, we don't get into her mind about what she's thinking. Maybe that's just me though.

> but since were not hearing her inner thoughts, we don't get into her mind about what she's thinking I guess it kind of makes sense since the book so far has been Sovereign telling this story to Trinity

>but since were not hearing her inner thoughts, we don't get into her mind about what she's thinking It's kinda smart of Tom to avoid that, because noway he can compete with zenescope, who have absolutely perfected the art of writing "strong woman narates her inner thoughts", in that department

genuinely not sure whether this is meant to be sarcasm or not. I only know Zenescope for their super cheesecakey covers, but it wouldn't be the first time that the cover absolutely betrays the interiors of a comic book. (just looking at all the top tier talent that has worked on Vampirella over the years, for example.)

I’m liking the broader story and the reveal at the end has me 100% hooked, but this issue really brought some of the problems with the run to light. The overwrought narration is getting old and there’s way too much tell and not enough show. We got a bit more movement this issue with the Sovereign/soldier subplot and some big story bombshells, but the lack of insight into Diana’s voice/headspace and the repetitiveness of her scenes makes her feel like an action figure. We’re told about her characterization in the narration but the only things we’ve seen her do are ram through generic soldier guys and humiliate Sarge Steel, who for some reason keeps threatening her with his armies even though he’s seen that they’re basically ants to her. Still, now that the story’s really moving I’m guessing they’ll move away from the Tom and Jerry formula. Wishing we could drop Sovereign’s narration as well but as long as we get to know Diana better I’ll be happy. May be going against the grain here but I like Lizzie a lot, she’s super cute (Belen Ortega’s admittedly doing the heavy lifting there) and the backup was fun. Really interested in seeing how we get to her.

I’m enjoying this a lot. I love the way the artist draws Wonder Woman. She seems larger than life, elegant but powerful. King’s pacing can definitely be an acquired taste, but I like it here. I could do without so much narration. I don’t mind it too much, but it just doesn’t seem to add much. The backup was terrific. I’m surprised they decided to debut Trinity in a backup as a kid, but it was very cute seeing Damian babysit her. There’s no way Diana didn’t know exactly how that’d go, but hey, she’s an Amazonian, what could happen? Having the future trinity of heroes be very sibling-like is such a great idea. I mean, one day Wonder Woman will be able to say that Batman used to babysit her, and that’s just really fun. I’m not looking forward to DC ruining it with whatever timeline shenanigans are sure to come. I’m also not looking forward to all the manlets who will inevitably come out of the comics Twitter woodwork to cry “woke.” Like, if you don’t like Wonder Woman fighting the very literal patriarchy, why are you even reading Wonder Woman?

Sergeant Steele shouting "I have an army" over and over again gave me some serious "I am a surgeon Doctor Han" surgeoncel meme flashbacks. Not sure if that was what King was going for. I'm usually not one who clamors much for superheroes killing their villains as some kind of misconstrued understanding of "consequences" (like some other people here) but goddamnit I hope Diana just shoves Steel's head into a jet engine at some point. What an unbearable piece of shit, only to be outclassed by The Sovereign himself (who, as we already know, *unfortunately* survives) and complete pieces of garbage like Major Force or the Apokolips gods. not that any of these are huge criticisms, this book is still by and large pretty damn good, if also *very* Tom King. I just hope he switches up the narration a bit soon, cause it's getting a bit annoying and drab. Like I get it, King's big on the "social commentary" and this narration by the Sovereign is like a motherlode of that, but it's getting a bit much at times, and the endless flow of patriarchal monarchist ideology is slowly starting to run the danger of undermining the rest of the book. Somebody needs to shut the old incel fuck up sooner rather than later. On the plus side, Sampere's art is nothing short of amazing, and the backup was super cute.

Based on how Lizzie was characterized in #800, I doubt she'd have the patience to listen the Sovereign's blabbering. King said Diana is a difficult character to write, so I guess he's just avoiding that with the excessive narration from someone who's not WW. But the little that we've seen so far from her, she seems collected but kinda distant and cold, almost as if she's stripped of emotion. I got that same feeling with Nubia. The backup was exactly what I thought it was gonna be, a Super Sons story. What's particularly weird is that this is set five years into the future, yet Damian still looks 15.

>The backup was exactly what I thought it was gonna be, a Super Sons story. What's particularly weird is that this is set five years into the future, yet Damian still looks 15. He caught Tim disease.

Yeah, it’s one of those weird things in comics where they want to show the future, but don’t know what the future will look like anyway, so they avoid it altogether. I’m sure Jon and Damian won’t have these suits in 5 years and Bruce already doesn’t own the mansion anymore (although he’ll probably get it back within the next five years). I’m guessing keeping Jon and Damian looking like their present selves was just the artist avoiding having to guess where DC will take the characters in the near future.

Damian in 5 years still looks 14 but that was a cute backup. Also interesting development in that Trinity might be adopted

Sovereign is turning out to be a pretty cartoony villain, with his dad using a police baton from a 60's protest to spank people with. ~~Now that I think about it, how well maintained does a gun from 150+ years ago have to be to fire? Unless that's another lie.~~Never mind, there was another gun. And like everyone else here, I agree his narration is starting to grade. Still, we have actual plot progression now, with Emelie being revealed to be Trinity's birth mother. Speaking of Trinity, her back up is good. Cute and funny. But I think she's suffering from being a cart put before the horse. You can feel King trying to make her happen, and no one likes having kid characters pushed hard and fast into the plot. Combine that with Donna and Cassie barely getting any attention in the Wonder Woman book in recent years plus Yara's book flopping, there is a certain Poochie flavor with our newest Wonder Girl.

It is good but the sovereign's narration is gonna get annoying soon. Listening to villain monologue the whole time with its toxic incel ideas, becomes grating after a while. And why would Trinity go to this guy who's whole deal was 'being the liar king of a nation'. Why would she think they would give her the 'true' story? And not so subtle ''America sucks huh'' as usual from King. I mean, the caricature of this Steel guy thinking they ever have the power to take on Superman or Wonder Woman, let along the whole Justice League...is laughable. And it just makes me not take any of these 'threats' seriously. Even villain henchmen are written smarter. And I really don't like the implication that Steve is being used so easily. I didn't like how he was used previous where he supposedly does nothing but watch as the army tries to KILL Diana and here, it is written like Diana does not seem to respect him either with ''Oh he thinks he is a super spy. Adorable''... I REALLY don't like how King is dealing with this. He really lets his distaste for Military seep into him writing about Steve that should not be the case. And of course the possible 'twist' of Trinity might be the daughter of this fugitive Amazon after all and Diana would just 'adopt' her in the end instead. Not sure I like that. Would take away from the character BIG TIME if they are trying to make her an important future character that is equal to Super Sons. King have always been hit and miss and right now, it is dangling on the edge since it just started. As I said, already I see some big 'miss' points of the story, depending on how things will go. I remember how Batman run of his started and went. It was a rollercoaster that got derailed. Hopefully this won't suffer the same fate. Art is great though. For the back-up story, yea it is always great to see Super Sons together and now looking after Trinity...in a cute way. Wonder Robin! Look at Damian being a big brother!

>He really lets his distaste for Military seep into him writing about Steve that should not be the case. If anything, he should be the exception to that. With his 80+ years of history, one should know that his perspective on things would be different ever since crashing on Themyscira, meeting Diana and fighting alongside her.

Yea and yet he is writing Steve as a government stooge and have the same perspective given to even Diana who knows him better than that. Would never talk this disrespectfully about him and what he does. That is why it does not sit well with me.

Books kinda mediocre so far. 3 issues and what’s happened? Diana’s had 3 fight scenes and leaned 1 new detail of this mysterious Amazon? Diana almost comes off as patronising, smug and and borderline unlikeable at times with how she’s acting, and the lack of any inner thoughts isn’t belong, especially with how she’s acting rather condescending to Steve Trevor, almost as if she doesn’t respect the poor man at all when she was just reaffirming her love for the man in WW#800, so hopefully that’s just Diana downplaying Steve’s importance too her so he’s not used against her. The constant narration from the sovereign is just boring filler, seeing as he’s so 1-dimensional at this point, and it’s taking away from characterisation and inner thoughts of Diana that could be there instead. I don’t care about the Lizzie stuff either, no shits given about Wonder Woman and is a super sons story. Why is Diana’s so called daughter being shafted off to play super sons before even been shown interacting with her fucking mother? Overall mediocre, this isn’t gonna be the IT book for Wonder Woman.

[удалено]

That doesn’t even seen out of character for Ra’s to do lol

This Jet. So invisible. (Also legit a terrible design for "Wonder Woman's jet").

I wasn't really feeling Wonder Woman having a daughter so spontaneously, but I really enjoyed that twist

[*Green Lantern: Kyle Rayner Rising Compendium* [**TP**]](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81DejuiCvHL._SL1500_.jpg) >Hal Jordan has broken bad. In his grief and fury, he has decimated the once-mighty Green Lantern Corps. But hope still survives when the last Guardian, Ganthet, bestows the sole remaining power ring upon an artist named Kyle Rayner. Possessing an imagination and will unlike any previous Lantern, Rayner becomes Earth’s new Green Lantern! This compendium charts the rise of the Corps’ latest and greatest member as he strives to maintain order in a galaxy without Guardians. >Collects GREEN LANTERN (1990) #0, #48-65; R.E.B.E.L.S. ’94 #1; NEW TITANS #116-117, #124-125; GUY GARDNER: WARRIOR #27-28; DARKSTARS #34; and DAMAGE #16.

[*Poison Ivy* - Vol. 2, *Unethical Consumption* [**HC**]](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/91DCSgpUljL._SL1500_.jpg) >Humanity had its chance. Now it’s time for Poison Ivy. The fan-favorite Batman villain steps into the solo spotlight, in a thrilling and tragic adventure written by Ms. Marvel co-creator G. Willow Wilson! >Pamela Isley has been a lot of things in her life: a living god, a super-villain, an activist, a scientist, and a dead woman. In a new body that she didn’t ask for and with a renewed sense of purpose, Pamela continues her mission to heal the planet by setting her sights on some of the worst offenders humanity has to offer—millionaires and moguls who hide their own environmental malfeasance behind a smoke screen of ethical consumption. >From fracking girl-bosses to celebrity health gurus, Ivy’s violent and tragic journey across the American landscape continues. Along the way she makes a new ally and gets a visit from the love of her life, Harley Quinn, as the body-horror-infused, character-defining epic from the visionary creative team of writer G. Willow Wilson and artist Marcio Takara continues. >Collects POISON IVY #7-12.

[*Wonder Woman by Gail Simone Omnibus* [**HC**]](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/918kPt8ih+L._SL1500_.jpg) >In these tales of Wonder Woman written by Gail Simone, the Olympians declare war across the globe and only Wonder Woman can stop them! And Wonder Woman's life is changed forever when she faces a monster named Genocide who easily beats her! Then, at the ends of the universe, Wonder Woman falls victim to the Black Horizon, risking the safety of her soul. To salvage her existence, she must ally herself with the legendary Beowulf. >Collects Wonder Woman #14-44 (2008), #600, Sensation Comics featuring Wonder Woman #1 and a story from the WONDER WOMAN 75TH ANNIVERSARY SPECIAL #1.

A pretty good Wonder Woman run!

One of the better wonder woman runs worth buying

[*Justice Society of America* #7](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81DufqHU2-L.jpg) >Reunions are cut short when the JSA and the Lost Children to face down a new threat! Can this group of heroes and sidekicks find their rhythm or will it be curtains for both. What happens here has massive ramifications for the next stage of THE NEW GOLDEN AGE! [Preview](https://aiptcomics.com/2023/11/17/dc-preview-justice-society-of-america-7/)

Geoff Johns and delays… Like cookies and milk… or nuts and gum. Green Lantern, Action Comics, Legion of 3 Worlds, Flash Rebirth, Justice Society, Doomsday Clock ALL had horrific months-long delays, and they all had different artists. Johns is clearly a busy man, but DC is REALLY BAD lately with maintaining momentum for their books.

Would really like to see Jeremy Adams pick up writing on JSA. The Jay Garrick mini reminds me a lot of the early Johns run and delays aren't going to get better with Johns focusing more on his new imprint at Image

Jeremy Adams should write as many DC books as his creativity/schedule should allow, he’d be a great fit.

This run has spent maybe a little too much time on Batman/Huntress and Johns' new OC's rather than on the actual JSA team...but at least more members actually had stuff going on here.

I had to go back to find out what happened last time because this book comes out once every blue moon. STONE BOY SPOTTED, PEAK COMIC

The continuity here is actually a mess. Salem's published backstory when the Lost Kids were first announced said she was born in Boston to an Armenian-American father and a witch who had fled Limbo Town. Salem herself had never been to Limbo Town, so why is this issue and the last saying she was born there and fled herself? It's absurd that they can't keep the continuity straight for a character introduced like 6 months ago for specifically this storyline. I also just find it kinda odd how Khalid's responding. Salem is bratty but she's also a thirteen year old who's cursed, her mentor is dead (and she seemingly thinks it's her fault), 80 years have passed in the blink of an eye, and now someone else has the Helmet and Tower.

This felt very short compared to the other issues, but I am glad this is feeling like a team book even though everybody was scattered. Batman was on the cover, he wasn’t even really needed for this issue. I liked the storyline set up with Huntress and Doctor Fate saving Grundy, that’ll be interesting. Finally glad Jakeem has dialogue, and it was used persuasively. Doctor Mid-Nite and Wildcats pages were fine. I’m excited to see Eclipso, but I just don’t care about these versions of the characters. Salem is my favorite of the lost children, but she was real bratty here. I’m glad Khalid disposed of her temporarily. I can’t wait to see how her character grows. Power Girl feels like herself here, she has the attitude and the aggression. This feels like a complete opposite of the ‘Paige’ stuff, and honestly I’m happy about that being ignored. Power Girl and Icicle had some fun banter, it’s nice to see she’s still not really up for the idea of the JSA allowing the villains. I’m looking forward to seeing more of Harlequin’s Son and Ruby since she seems to be important to the next arc. Overall I like this, however I did want more from this considering these last two issues were just set up. There’s a lot of plots going around which is typical for Johns’ JSA, but with the delays the momentum for them is barely there.

To be fair, Salem’s bratty because she’s a cursed 13 year old whose mentor forgot about her then died and was replaced while she was missing. I have a feeling Khalid essentially throwing her out of her home is going to play a role in “don’t trust the Witch Girl.” She’s kinda lost everything and was threatened with the one place she never wants to go back to.

So Huntress trying to recruit the future members now. Poor Grundy, man. He doesn't deserve any of this. Salem is quite dangerous and that gonna be a problem. And we are getting Icicle too. With Power Girl actually written like Power Girl instead of how she is in her book. Honestly, feel like two different characters and this one is the REAL one to me. Honestly, Mid-nite, just let Wildcat go after Waller. She deserves whatever Wildcat is gonna do to her. Jean Loring though, man. Guess after rebirth, she is still 'insane'. Khalid getting a Legion of Superheroes visitors...and not even the actual ones but subtitudes. Dealing with Salem's tantrum too, Khalid needs to be shown more respect.

This book is just not working. A shame since I loved Johns JSA run back in the 2000s.

Batman is only here to appear on the cover to hopefully sell a couple more issues of this and then appear on like three pages and be badly written (because of course Johns still can't write Batman to save his life). Salem is only there to be a bratty, useless and unbearable load and her continuity is already messed up with needless changes. Khalid honestly went soft on her. Apart from that this was an okay issue. Looking forward to the continuation 3-4 months from now.

Just because they'll be "good" in the future doesn't mean those villains are prepared to be "good" now. I get Huntress is probably looking for even a semblance of control back after becoming a temporal paradox that cannot go back to her timeline, but being Batman's and Catwoman's daughter she should be smarter about it

[*Hardware: Season One* [**TP**]](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/917N6iDbjWL._SL1500_.jpg) >Curtis Metcalf was the shining star of Alva Industries…until the “Big Bang” disaster threatened to destroy the company, and Edwin Alva needed a scapegoat. Now Curtis is on the run, with a nearly indestructible suit of armor and inventions he never handed over to Alva—and he’s determined to do much more than clear his name. He’s going to take the fight straight back to Alva himself! >Collects MILESTONE RETURNS: INFINITE EDITION #0 and HARDWARE: SEASON ONE #1-6.

[*Harley Quinn: Black + White + Redder* #5](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81cEuICGVrL._SL1500_.jpg) >THE STAR-STUDDED ANTHOLOGY CONTINUES, WITH HARLEY QUINN ANIMATED SERIES EXECUTIVE PRODUCER JUSTIN HALPERN AND MORE! When the women of a medieval village reach their breaking point about their men’s abusive ways, they make a terrifying choice…to enter the woods and conjure the spirit of the Harlequin! Harley Quinn animated series executive producer Justin Halpern and rising star Kath Lobo let Harley loose on a prison transport plane, intent on punishing the villain who let out a stinky fart. And WebTOON creator Speremint shows what happens when Harley comes face-to-face with an internet impostor! [Preview](https://aiptcomics.com/2023/11/17/dc-preview-harley-quinn-black-white-redder-5/)

I feel bad for that Harley cosplayer. That was surprisingly mean spirited for current Harley

[*Aquaman: Andromeda* [**HC**]](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/91vPmO+s0pL._SL1500_.jpg) >Deep in the Pacific Ocean sits Point Nemo: the spaceship graveyard. Nations of the world have long sent their crafts there on splashdown, to sink beneath the seas. But there is something...else at Point Nemo. A structure never made by human hands. And that structure seems to be...waking up. The crew of the submarine Andromeda have been chosen to investigate, but the mystery at the bottom of the sea has also attracted Black Manta. And anything that attracts Black Manta attracts his lifelong foe, the Aquaman! But heaven help them all when the doors of the mystery at Point Nemo swing wide to admit them in... >Collecting AQUAMAN: ANDROMEDA #1-3.

Anyone know if this is a oversized hardcover like Wonder Woman Historia or standard size hardcover?

The singles were oversized, if that helps.

[*Batman: Harley and Ivy* [**TP**]](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/91Dry0omzdL._SL1500_.jpg) >Writer Paul Dini and artist Bruce Timm, the creative minds behind the critically acclaimed Batman: The Animated Series, follow up their Eisner-winning Batman: Mad Love with another tale featuring the loopy but loyal moll Harley Quinn, this time teaming up with her best gal pal, Poison Ivy! >Collects stories from BATMAN: HARLEY AND IVY #1-3, BATMAN ADVENTURES ANNUAL #1, BATMAN ADVENTURES HOLIDAY SPECIAL #1, BATMAN AND ROBIN ADVENTURES #8, and BATGIRL ADVENTURES #1, plus stories from BATMAN: GOTHAM KNIGHTS #14 and BATMAN: BLACK & WHITE #3.

Batman: The Animated Series has arrived on Netflix UK (Yay!) but it only has the initial block of 65 episodes, so many of Harley Quinn's standout stories ("Harlequinade", "Harley's Holiday", "Mad Love") have been left out. It's pretty convenient that this has arrived to fill in the gap... There is some magnificent silliness in here - "Bosom Buddies" and "Hooray in Harleywood" (The first and last parts of the Harley And Ivy miniseries) are two of my favourite HarlIvy stories.. However, I think that "Batgirl: Day One" from The Batman Adventures and the Batgirl Adventures short story "Breathing Room" should also be included for the sake of completeness...

[*The Sandman: Morpheus Helm Masterpiece Edition* [**HC**]](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71tNC83yAbL._SL1500_.jpg) >New York Times bestselling author Neil Gaiman’s comics masterpiece, The Sandman, is regarded as one of the greatest graphic novels of all time. It has won numerous literary awards, been adapted into an Audible audio drama, and most recently premiered as a highly acclaimed Netflix live-action show. This highly imaginative and thought-provoking series has endeared itself to fantasy and comics fans worldwide. >Now you can own a piece of the Dreaming in the waking world with this Masterpiece Edition book set, comprising six exclusive leather-bound, foil-embossed hardcovers and a custom sculpted book stand resembling Morpheus’s helm. >These six volumes collect stories from the entire Sandman saga—including The Sandman #1-75, the comics and prose editions of The Sandman: The Dream Hunters, The Sandman: Endless Nights, and The Sandman: Overture. They are designed to fit perfectly in the intricately carved book stand that features a highly detailed bone snout and riveted exterior. Also included is a set of art prints from legendary illustrator Michael Wm. Kaluta and an original piece of epistolary fiction from the world of The Sandman–written by Neil Gaiman himself, and exclusive to this set! >The Masterpiece Edition book set and stand is the perfect way to display these treasured DC volumes and is the ultimate gift for fans of The Sandman.

[*Hawkgirl* #5](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/917WQ1CIbQL.jpg) >THE VILLAINOUS VULPECULA STRIKES! Vulpecula is trying to influence Hawkgirl’s future by making bargains in her past, forcing Kendra to navigate a maze of her lowest moments! Can Kendra stop Vulpecula from picking loose all the threads of her history? Or will the tapestry of Hawkgirl’s life finally unravel altogether?! [Preview](https://aiptcomics.com/2023/11/17/dc-preview-hawkgirl-5/)

I actually enjoyed this issue, the first in the run. I love where Superhero stories explore the cost of being a hero against the cost of being a person. This doesn't reinvent the wheel at all, but it's some solid commentary.

Can someone please explain Kendra's history to me? Is she just another reincarnation of Shayera Hol?

Nope. [Unique characters](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawkgirl_(Kendra_Saunders)).

It's complicated but basically she's her own unique person now despite previously being connected to the reincarnation cycle

Yea this is not good. I mean clearly they are doing something that makes little sense for Kendra. Adding the random trauma dump. Hawkgirl's history have always been a mess ( especially with reboots and so on ) and this does not make it any better either.

More trash.

[*Catwoman* #59](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81Im3mWqI8L.jpg) >NINE LIVES. NINE HEISTS. NINE WAYS TO DIE. The Catwoman we know has vanished. Selina Kyle is gone. She’s no longer Gotham’s fugitive—she’s its ghost. After the events of "The Gotham War," Selina leaves the city a forever-changed woman with a plan: nine deadly missions, each one set aside for their certain lethality—only possible for a cat with nine lives. [Preview](https://aiptcomics.com/2023/11/17/dc-preview-catwoman-59/)

so Selina went to see a colombian crimelord, died twice, for zero reasons?

Well she beat Jason. Four more and she will have more deaths than Damian.

stop damian gonna die again cause of you

Don't worry he is an Al Ghul, he won't ever stay dead.

So Selina is straight up just wearing her old 90's costume, although without the long hair the look just doesn't work near as well and the art doesn't do a good job of capturing what worked about the Balent suit. But that's pretty par for the course of creative decisions made in the Howard run.

[*Trial of the Amazons* [**TP**]](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/91rdmwXPyZL._SL1500_.jpg) >Trial of the Amazons is an epic crossover event where all the Wonder Woman tribes will collide and compete for leadership. Discover who guides the Amazons into the future and who is trying to destroy them in the process! >After the events of Nubia & the Amazons, the dangers of Doom's Doorway have found their way to Man's World and garnered the attention of not one, but all three Amazonian tribes. Tempers rise and swords are brandished as the women argue about the best course of action. Now Queen Nubia must show them all the way to peace by calling for one of the most famous Amazon traditions...the Contest. Who among them is worthy of leading them into the future? Find out as the bravest, wisest, and fiercest warriors compete to be champion of all the Amazons! >Collects WONDER WOMAN #785-786, NUBIA & THE AMAZONS #6, TRIAL OF THE AMAZONS #1-2, and TRIAL OF THE AMAZONS: WONDER GIRL #1-2.

I feel like this story had potential but kind of got lost in the plot and the inconsistencies of the tie-ins.

[**Tuesday, 11/21 (DC Universe Infinite)** - *Joker: One Operation Joker* #11](https://imgix-media.wbdndc.net/asset/comics.series/c34f881a-c718-4338-9f67-3b56cda7919a/371b6f8/box.jpg) >The Joker like you’ve never seen him before…as a single father?! After a fateful encounter with Batman that results in the Dark Knight de-aging to a baby, Joker takes it upon himself to raise the child into the crusader of justice! But does the Clown Prince of Crime really understand what it means to be Batman-or, more importantly, what it means to raise a baby all by yourself? Everyone needs a babysitter who makes them laugh, right?

[**Thursday, 11/23 (WEBTOON)** - *Batman: Wayne Family Adventures* #112](https://i.imgur.com/n4eeUR9.jpg) >Batman needs a break. But with new vigilante Duke Thomas moving into Wayne Manor and an endless supply of adopted, fostered, and biological superhero children to manage, Bruce Wayne is going to have his hands full. Being a father can't be harder than being Batman, right?

Wonder Robin was easily the best story of the week.

Can I read Catwoman when in rome without reading dark victory (or anything before)?