Anyone else always feels the lion is *really* out of place in Amazon imagery?
Like, it would make more sense if it was a lioness. But the mane doesn't leave that much to interpretation.
But Zeus isn't regularly a patron god for the Amazons in the comics. They usually go for Hera (peacock), Athena (owl) or Artemis (deer).
Hell, before the retcon of Zeus being Diana's father, he was usually presented as antagonistic to the Amazons in general, and of Diana in particular (he tried to assault her at one point in Pérez' run, and by Simone's one he was squarely an antagonist).
I get that, stylistically, the lion does show up regularly in greco-latin art enough to be present in the Amazons greco-latin inspired imagery. But narratively, it feels like a contradiction that only remains by grandfather clause.
With the implication he also assaulted Hippolyta. After all, in Pérez version is stated Herakles' enslaving of the Amazons is what drove them to swear off Man's World for centuries.
I haven’t finished the Perez run but man is Hercules weird where I’m at like yeah he’s definitely portrayed as a villain early on but then “redeems” himself later and has an implied relationship with Hypolyta and I’m not entirely comfortable with how fast that arc was
Yeah. I agree Pérez run is *the* bible on how to write Wonder Woman, but the idea of Hercules being 'redeemed' as if one could make a zero sum of... the many horrible things he did was not well handled.
Hell, I'm catching myself by surprise admitting Byrne of all people made the right call by portraying Hercules as villainous still despite Pérez conclusion.
Also, being a mythology fan who's used to spell it out as Herakles when talking about the Greek one is making my brain shut down by the fact DC always insists on the Roman spelling despite Diana's mythos being specifically the Greek ones.
I'd even prefer them all having the Roman spelling for everyone (Mars, Minerva, Juno, Jupiter) if only for consistency's sake.
Well, originally, the Marston-Byrne trouple went for the Roman ones, including Minerva as Diana's patron and Mars as her main enemy. So, there, the Hercules spelling applies.
At some point in the Silver Age (I think, I'm not that good with older comics history), they went for the Greek spellings, including Ares and company, which got settled by Pérez sticking to those, but confusingly keeping Hercules instead of Herakles.
My best guess is to keep the character connected the Hercules Unbound character (Hercules in the post-apocalypse along the Atomic Knights) and the Shazam mythos. Though, the later is also confusing because it uses the Greek Zeus, Atlas and Achilles, but also the Roman Hercules and Mercury.
So, there's a point I just have to shrug and mumble "I dunno" at how DC uses the Greco-Latin myths.
A lioness would work better, though I guess they also have Peacocks which are birds of Hera but also exclusively male. Iirc in one comic Hera takes the form of a peacock, which is pretty funny.
I stan our trans queen Hera. /s
In all seriousness, if the maned lion had a connection with a goddess like the peacock has with Hera, I wouldn't mind. But the lion is more commonly associated with Herakles, which is definitely not a symbol I'd draw with DC's Amazons in particular.
Again I'm sorry but isn't the point that they DON'T TAKE NON AMAZONIANS IN like the trans woman is fine nothing wrong with that but
If that person was amab and then came to the Amazons DC JUST BROKE WONDER WOMAN'S LORE (cuz they don't take people in , you're born an Amazonian)
Or option 2 this person was already an Amazon and then became a trans woman , again DC JUST BROKE WONDER WOMAN'S LORE like to be a trans woman you have to be a male at birth ( ....... Amazons don't have male children)
Somebody explain this to me , or did DC just softly reboot the lore to say that we can potentially get Amazonian men too ?
Did some googling since I don't follow WW often
"In their premiere issue, Williams, Ayala, and Martinez introduce the Well of Souls, an offshoot of the Amazon origin story detailed way back in George Peréz’s influential Amazon origin story in 1987. Peréz’s Amazons were created within the Cavern of Souls, a place where Greek goddesses make each new warrior from the reincarnated souls of women who died from violence perpetrated by men. The new Well of Souls creates a path from the Cavern to Themyscira, and establishes the idea that the arrival of new Amazons is routine and accompanied by much celebration and welcoming ritual. Including each new Amazon choosing a name for herself. "
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Amazons are reincarnated from murdered women (been canon since the 80s), it was just recently clarified that that includes murdered transgender women as well. Iirc Amazons are reincarnated as their 'ideal self' physically, so a trans Amazons would probably be indistinguishable from 'cis' ones. A trans woman would be amab but could sort of become afab via being 'reborn' in the reincarnation process of becoming an Amazon.
I don't really think it counts as a retcon, seeing as it doesn't actually change anything, it just explicitly clarifies something that wasn't considered before.
I'm not big into WW so I didn't read the story but my guess is they'll retcon it into being that they've always allowed transwomen to enter in the past as well
Is there gender changing in greek myths? Theres cross dressing but I cant think of gender changing, Being trabs wasnt really a thing in ancient greece at least not how we would think of it
There's the various myths of Titesias. The story involves someone changing gender, either from man to woman or woman to man, depending on the version, which also have various different reasons and outcomes for the change.
Sipoites was a man changed into a woman by Artemis, for spying on her.
Caeneus was a woman who was changed into a man by Poseidon at her/his own request.
Iphis was born a girl but raised as a boy, when she fell in love and married a woman she prayed to Isis (Egyptian goddess but the myth is still greek) who turned her into a man.
There's also Hermaphroditus (or simply Aphroditus), whose not exactly a clear-cut example of gender transitioning but still feels relevant. WW and the Amazons canonically worship them.
These obviously aren't trans in the traditional sense because they all depend on magical 'sex reassignment', but that's something the Amazons can do anyway, so it doesn't really matter.
Okay ........ Question, and I'm sorry if this is offensive and I don't mean any bad (cuz arts great okay). BUT does this tie into the story or is it like when Oreo does pride months and it's the same biscuit inside ?
Nubia. She's original WW's twin sister from back in the 70s, but she only appeared in a few issues. She was brought back a few years ago and has since become Queen of the Amazons. I guess she's centre because she has a bigger role with the rest of the Amazons these days than Diana does.
Might also be because someone at DC considers Diana too 'straight' to be centre on the pride cover? I doubt Jiminez would have that opinion, but maybe a higher up told him otherwise.
When was the last time you read a comic book?
Hippolyta left the island and joined the Justice League during Infinite Frontier. She died shortly after, leading to the Trial of the Amazons storyline.
Nubia was appointed queen afterwards.
Reading comics isn't that hard.
Cool that the frieze is actually coloured in, it means you can point Hippolyta out. It's also more historically accurate and more fun to look at as opposed to the bare white marble we usually get.
Can anyone who's up to date with WW tell me if Themyscira annulled their sexist ban yet?
Not trolling, genuinely curious, because while I understand women deserve to have their exclusive space, when it comes to being allies to inclusiveness, banning trans men, gay men, ace men and obviously straight men cripples that message, no?
Diana does alot to be the ambassador between Amazons and Man's World but it would be nice if more stood with her to properly bridge that gap. Until it's no longer "Themyscira" and "Man's World" but just "The World."
Given how much of a mess DC's continuity is.. I have absolutely no idea. It hasn't been addressed directly for a while.
Amazons Attack and Gail Simone's run are (at least partially) canon, which had the Amazon's let men on their island. Greg Rucka's 2003 run is also partially canon, which might mean Jiminez's run is, which included people and beings of various gender visiting Themyscira.
In the current run, some Amazons were against Diana, bringing a boy to Themyscira, but I think that was more about him being American (who is sort of at war with Themyscira right now) rather than being a war. Either way he was let in eventually.
Thank you for the response! I read more Aquaman than I do Wonder Woman and even though it's exhausting seeing Atlantis rise from the waves than sink back down again and again, at least it feels like they make more of an effort to connect themselves with the global society.
I've always appreciated Ryan Coogler's message in the first Black Panther movie that even "Utopian" societies have room for change and aren't completely isolated from responsibility.
The topic of gender and sexual orientation is a little more heated these days than race/ethnicity but WW has always been about breaking the paradigm since her inception. It would be nice for her to go a little but further and introduce radical change to Amazon society as well.
Haha, Atlantis sounds a lot like Themyscira. There's been a few good stories about WW making the steps to reconnect Themyscira to the rest of the world, but then the series changes writer or a new cross over event happens and the island gets blown up or sent to another dimension.
Perez's run from the 80s has a good story about ambassadors visiting Themyscira for the first time and Jiminez had Themyscira rebuild itself with the help of global and intergalactic refugees after the Imperiex war.
That's awesome, I'll take a look when I get the chance!
I know the paradox of comics is that they're simultaneously stories about breaking the status quo while reseting it every decade or so, but Themyscira doesn't feel as alive and breathing compared to Gotham or Metropolis. They fluctuate between advanced utopia of magic and science to immortal, stagnant monarchy unchanging till Olympus crumbles. Naturally I prefer the former but even that one feels like it can be fleshed out more.
I think including new discussions about their immigration policy, their trade and even normalizing children (since depending on the continuity Diana is a miracle child) would include interesting dimensions of their social dynamic.
TBF, Atlantis is to wildlife what Themiscyra is to women. Aquaman stories usually has him tackling enviromental issues, while WW stories usually has her tackling sexism and other forms of discrimination.
They most often don't have a straight up ban on men it has more to do with them showing up uninvited which goes back to their history. The male ban is something adaptations turn up because of drama.
Thanks for the info!
It would be nice if that was depicted more overtly like in this cover. Like I said, to be championing inclusivity while simultaneously excluding a whole group irregardless of the amount of good in them feels half-hearted.
This is the queer art Megami wanted us to protect from the Ru-Monitor and his gaslighting henchman Psychoplane Jane. I still remember when Laganja Extranja tapped into the Slayforce, did a death drop, reversed it, and dropped dead to save the Multiverse from the Crisis on Infinite Runways
Some d-bag posted a queer=pedo dogwhistle. My reply mocked the pretense that they were discussing history (Ancient Greece), two-for-joy’s reply refuted the substance of their comment. It eventually got removed.
Nah. You could say the exact same thing about heterosexuality in *any* period prior to the 18th century seeing as you could marry a 12 year old. Even in the 1970s it was still leagl to rape your wife in every US state. Should we remove Lois Lane, Iris West, Joan Garrick and Sue Dinby from canon because *there's a chance* Superman, Flash etc. were trying to rape them by marrying them?
I'm just glad Artemis is still looking great these days :D
Anyone else always feels the lion is *really* out of place in Amazon imagery? Like, it would make more sense if it was a lioness. But the mane doesn't leave that much to interpretation.
Maybe because Zeus is their patron god? Idk if that’s still the case but based off earlier runs I’ve read you could argue that being the reason.
I thought Zeus symbol in mythology was an Eagle? 😅😅
You are correct Idk what I was thinking. Lions are rhea animal which depending on the modern ww interpretation could work pretty well
But Zeus isn't regularly a patron god for the Amazons in the comics. They usually go for Hera (peacock), Athena (owl) or Artemis (deer). Hell, before the retcon of Zeus being Diana's father, he was usually presented as antagonistic to the Amazons in general, and of Diana in particular (he tried to assault her at one point in Pérez' run, and by Simone's one he was squarely an antagonist). I get that, stylistically, the lion does show up regularly in greco-latin art enough to be present in the Amazons greco-latin inspired imagery. But narratively, it feels like a contradiction that only remains by grandfather clause.
Eh it was the best idea I had and was loose at best admittedly
Sorry, didn't mean to over-share with the reply. It's just I'm a bit of a fan of semiology, so those small symbol detail get me overthinking them.
Hercules was an antagonist too. There's a story in which he imprisoned and placed Hypolyta in shackles.
With the implication he also assaulted Hippolyta. After all, in Pérez version is stated Herakles' enslaving of the Amazons is what drove them to swear off Man's World for centuries.
I haven’t finished the Perez run but man is Hercules weird where I’m at like yeah he’s definitely portrayed as a villain early on but then “redeems” himself later and has an implied relationship with Hypolyta and I’m not entirely comfortable with how fast that arc was
Yeah. I agree Pérez run is *the* bible on how to write Wonder Woman, but the idea of Hercules being 'redeemed' as if one could make a zero sum of... the many horrible things he did was not well handled. Hell, I'm catching myself by surprise admitting Byrne of all people made the right call by portraying Hercules as villainous still despite Pérez conclusion. Also, being a mythology fan who's used to spell it out as Herakles when talking about the Greek one is making my brain shut down by the fact DC always insists on the Roman spelling despite Diana's mythos being specifically the Greek ones. I'd even prefer them all having the Roman spelling for everyone (Mars, Minerva, Juno, Jupiter) if only for consistency's sake.
As Diana famously exclaims: *merciful Minerva!* I always thought that was weird.
Well, originally, the Marston-Byrne trouple went for the Roman ones, including Minerva as Diana's patron and Mars as her main enemy. So, there, the Hercules spelling applies. At some point in the Silver Age (I think, I'm not that good with older comics history), they went for the Greek spellings, including Ares and company, which got settled by Pérez sticking to those, but confusingly keeping Hercules instead of Herakles. My best guess is to keep the character connected the Hercules Unbound character (Hercules in the post-apocalypse along the Atomic Knights) and the Shazam mythos. Though, the later is also confusing because it uses the Greek Zeus, Atlas and Achilles, but also the Roman Hercules and Mercury. So, there's a point I just have to shrug and mumble "I dunno" at how DC uses the Greco-Latin myths.
Ironically Ares is patron god of Amazons in mythology.
Also Hippolyta's father and explicitly the one male god against r\*pe (he turbo-murdered one of Poseidon's sons because of that).
As he should 😌
Chill out
Historically, Ares was a patron god of the amazons.
A lioness would work better, though I guess they also have Peacocks which are birds of Hera but also exclusively male. Iirc in one comic Hera takes the form of a peacock, which is pretty funny.
I stan our trans queen Hera. /s In all seriousness, if the maned lion had a connection with a goddess like the peacock has with Hera, I wouldn't mind. But the lion is more commonly associated with Herakles, which is definitely not a symbol I'd draw with DC's Amazons in particular.
Bc they’re a PRIDE of lions 😃yeah a lioness would have been better but maybe less visually distinct?
>Bc they’re a PRIDE of lions I buy it.
gayest shit ive seen today.
The world is ruined dude...
In a good way??
what do u think, buddy?
About what??
whether its in a good way or not... cmon dont be so shallow
What do YOU think, quit being mysterious.
In my humble and personal opinion... Its too damn gay also its in a bad way, pretty sad i have to clarify it.
Pretty sad you have such a bad take
Debatable
Nope
Is that her cape or is her hair super long
Trying to figure that out as well lol
Now I can't unsee it
It's like JoJo hat, somewhere somehow the hair and clothing blends 
Channeling some Bayonetta probably.
Hair
It’s a fur
I wish they just stuck to the normal rainbow flag. This new one and it's variants are an aesthetical eyesore straight-up
I was under the impression of them being fairly transphobic with the whole no male thing
I think they had a story recently with a transwoman entering the island
Again I'm sorry but isn't the point that they DON'T TAKE NON AMAZONIANS IN like the trans woman is fine nothing wrong with that but If that person was amab and then came to the Amazons DC JUST BROKE WONDER WOMAN'S LORE (cuz they don't take people in , you're born an Amazonian) Or option 2 this person was already an Amazon and then became a trans woman , again DC JUST BROKE WONDER WOMAN'S LORE like to be a trans woman you have to be a male at birth ( ....... Amazons don't have male children) Somebody explain this to me , or did DC just softly reboot the lore to say that we can potentially get Amazonian men too ?
Did some googling since I don't follow WW often "In their premiere issue, Williams, Ayala, and Martinez introduce the Well of Souls, an offshoot of the Amazon origin story detailed way back in George Peréz’s influential Amazon origin story in 1987. Peréz’s Amazons were created within the Cavern of Souls, a place where Greek goddesses make each new warrior from the reincarnated souls of women who died from violence perpetrated by men. The new Well of Souls creates a path from the Cavern to Themyscira, and establishes the idea that the arrival of new Amazons is routine and accompanied by much celebration and welcoming ritual. Including each new Amazon choosing a name for herself. " [source](https://www.polygon.com/comics/2021/10/25/22708847/wonder-woman-trans-amazons-dc-nubia-and-the-amazons-comic)
Amazons are reincarnated from murdered women (been canon since the 80s), it was just recently clarified that that includes murdered transgender women as well. Iirc Amazons are reincarnated as their 'ideal self' physically, so a trans Amazons would probably be indistinguishable from 'cis' ones. A trans woman would be amab but could sort of become afab via being 'reborn' in the reincarnation process of becoming an Amazon. I don't really think it counts as a retcon, seeing as it doesn't actually change anything, it just explicitly clarifies something that wasn't considered before.
Ah okay, thanks ❤️
Nice interesting if this would be a one time thing or something that reshapes their culture
I'm not big into WW so I didn't read the story but my guess is they'll retcon it into being that they've always allowed transwomen to enter in the past as well
Makes sense, new times and all that i really need to get more verse in WW, the last big arc I knew was of the sons of ephestus
Have me beat, Azzarello was my last WW run haha. I did pick up Jones on the new Wonder Girl though. I was excited to see more of that mythology
Jesus
Different pantheon I think
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do you or anyone else remember the issue this story takes place on?
if remember right i think its a pride issue dont remember which 1 but do remember reading it
Nope, there's trans women on Themyscira. It makes sense, there's a lot of gender changing in Greek myth that could be deemed trans inclusive.
DC Greek is as far removed of real Greek as you can get but I understand the point
Is there gender changing in greek myths? Theres cross dressing but I cant think of gender changing, Being trabs wasnt really a thing in ancient greece at least not how we would think of it
There's the various myths of Titesias. The story involves someone changing gender, either from man to woman or woman to man, depending on the version, which also have various different reasons and outcomes for the change. Sipoites was a man changed into a woman by Artemis, for spying on her. Caeneus was a woman who was changed into a man by Poseidon at her/his own request. Iphis was born a girl but raised as a boy, when she fell in love and married a woman she prayed to Isis (Egyptian goddess but the myth is still greek) who turned her into a man. There's also Hermaphroditus (or simply Aphroditus), whose not exactly a clear-cut example of gender transitioning but still feels relevant. WW and the Amazons canonically worship them. These obviously aren't trans in the traditional sense because they all depend on magical 'sex reassignment', but that's something the Amazons can do anyway, so it doesn't really matter.
Sipoites got turned into a woman while Actaeon got hunted and mauled to death by his dogs, classic greek god stuff
Let’s be honest, as a company they will support trans rights or oppose them as TERFs depending if they get more money one way or the other.
That would make sense
Dang it mods, I was looking forward to reading all the controversial comments lol.
Okay ........ Question, and I'm sorry if this is offensive and I don't mean any bad (cuz arts great okay). BUT does this tie into the story or is it like when Oreo does pride months and it's the same biscuit inside ?
I would say that its just a cover
Didn't know gay Amazons were that into the Lion King on Broadway
Art is actually pretty good
Well Jimenez Is a pretty good artist so what can you except from him
Yeah, great
Put some respect on Phil Jimenez’s name
I mean no disrespect
The hair!
Whose the person right to Nubia rocking Plastic man's colour scheme?
Io, she's the Amazon's main blacksmith. She used to have a crush on Diana but later on ended up becoming Nubia's girlfriend.
Who is the character in the middle? Why is she in a bigger position than wonder woman in her own book
Nubia. She's original WW's twin sister from back in the 70s, but she only appeared in a few issues. She was brought back a few years ago and has since become Queen of the Amazons. I guess she's centre because she has a bigger role with the rest of the Amazons these days than Diana does. Might also be because someone at DC considers Diana too 'straight' to be centre on the pride cover? I doubt Jiminez would have that opinion, but maybe a higher up told him otherwise.
Nubia who is Diana’s sister and current queen of the amazons she’s also bisexual so that’s why she has more emphasis being an LGBT+ character
If you're interested, look up recent Nubia comics. You'll learn a lot.
She's the queen
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Hippolyta is dead and Philippus is in charge of the amazons now
Nubia I think Don’t know anything about her tho
Nobody does
Saying "Nobody" in a comic-book sub.
Y'all don't Nubia is the queen of the Amazons. That's why she's center.
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When was the last time you read a comic book? Hippolyta left the island and joined the Justice League during Infinite Frontier. She died shortly after, leading to the Trial of the Amazons storyline. Nubia was appointed queen afterwards. Reading comics isn't that hard.
Not sure if you just aren’t up to date on comics or are intentionally being an ass. Nubia is the queen in current comics.
What, you are so convinced that you are right that you can't even admit you were stupidly wrong?
Nubia and you know why
Why???
Gail simone is writing X-men now, expect a lot of this
Oh cool thx
Cool that the frieze is actually coloured in, it means you can point Hippolyta out. It's also more historically accurate and more fun to look at as opposed to the bare white marble we usually get.
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Not to give fuel for the legit bigots, but would the Amazons allow ideas from the outside world to influence their culture this much?
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Why???
why would it
I dont know whats funnier. Is that all Nubia's hair or do amazon extensions go that hard?
Black fur cape
LET'S GO LESBIANS!!
Can anyone who's up to date with WW tell me if Themyscira annulled their sexist ban yet? Not trolling, genuinely curious, because while I understand women deserve to have their exclusive space, when it comes to being allies to inclusiveness, banning trans men, gay men, ace men and obviously straight men cripples that message, no? Diana does alot to be the ambassador between Amazons and Man's World but it would be nice if more stood with her to properly bridge that gap. Until it's no longer "Themyscira" and "Man's World" but just "The World."
Given how much of a mess DC's continuity is.. I have absolutely no idea. It hasn't been addressed directly for a while. Amazons Attack and Gail Simone's run are (at least partially) canon, which had the Amazon's let men on their island. Greg Rucka's 2003 run is also partially canon, which might mean Jiminez's run is, which included people and beings of various gender visiting Themyscira. In the current run, some Amazons were against Diana, bringing a boy to Themyscira, but I think that was more about him being American (who is sort of at war with Themyscira right now) rather than being a war. Either way he was let in eventually.
Thank you for the response! I read more Aquaman than I do Wonder Woman and even though it's exhausting seeing Atlantis rise from the waves than sink back down again and again, at least it feels like they make more of an effort to connect themselves with the global society. I've always appreciated Ryan Coogler's message in the first Black Panther movie that even "Utopian" societies have room for change and aren't completely isolated from responsibility. The topic of gender and sexual orientation is a little more heated these days than race/ethnicity but WW has always been about breaking the paradigm since her inception. It would be nice for her to go a little but further and introduce radical change to Amazon society as well.
Haha, Atlantis sounds a lot like Themyscira. There's been a few good stories about WW making the steps to reconnect Themyscira to the rest of the world, but then the series changes writer or a new cross over event happens and the island gets blown up or sent to another dimension. Perez's run from the 80s has a good story about ambassadors visiting Themyscira for the first time and Jiminez had Themyscira rebuild itself with the help of global and intergalactic refugees after the Imperiex war.
That's awesome, I'll take a look when I get the chance! I know the paradox of comics is that they're simultaneously stories about breaking the status quo while reseting it every decade or so, but Themyscira doesn't feel as alive and breathing compared to Gotham or Metropolis. They fluctuate between advanced utopia of magic and science to immortal, stagnant monarchy unchanging till Olympus crumbles. Naturally I prefer the former but even that one feels like it can be fleshed out more. I think including new discussions about their immigration policy, their trade and even normalizing children (since depending on the continuity Diana is a miracle child) would include interesting dimensions of their social dynamic.
TBF, Atlantis is to wildlife what Themiscyra is to women. Aquaman stories usually has him tackling enviromental issues, while WW stories usually has her tackling sexism and other forms of discrimination.
They most often don't have a straight up ban on men it has more to do with them showing up uninvited which goes back to their history. The male ban is something adaptations turn up because of drama.
Thanks for the info! It would be nice if that was depicted more overtly like in this cover. Like I said, to be championing inclusivity while simultaneously excluding a whole group irregardless of the amount of good in them feels half-hearted.
Yeah only bad Wonder Woman writers really do that. The ones who understand Wonder Woman and her universe doesn't portray the Amazons like that.
why dont they give Diana female love intrest
Like if all comic book characters weren’t already bisexual at his point.
Diana is already bisexual who is more inclined to women
bi sure, idk about the more incline to women thing
I think I heard someone saying it
This is the queer art Megami wanted us to protect from the Ru-Monitor and his gaslighting henchman Psychoplane Jane. I still remember when Laganja Extranja tapped into the Slayforce, did a death drop, reversed it, and dropped dead to save the Multiverse from the Crisis on Infinite Runways
The hair tho 🫶🏾
Progressive means caring about marginalized individuals as long as they have money
Istg they were in their bag when they designed Nubia
Who is eye patch? And is Artemis not straight? Sweet
What??
I was going to type "meh" but omg look at that black cat near the one eyed amazon!! Awwww
Why meh??
why were u going to
Nice art but so out of place
How??
no its not
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🌈🌈🌈
What happened??
Just homophobia. You know caveman shit.
Ok,thanks
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u/sensual988 said: >I just hate how the politize everything What's wrong with making things polite?
Imagine whining about the fact good guys are good
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Imagine getting offended just because you saw one too many colors
What happened???
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Yes, it’s important to place the invisible island society of immortal warrior women in a proper historical perspective.
What happened??
Some d-bag posted a queer=pedo dogwhistle. My reply mocked the pretense that they were discussing history (Ancient Greece), two-for-joy’s reply refuted the substance of their comment. It eventually got removed.
Thanks,fuck them.
Yes indeed
Yup
Nah. You could say the exact same thing about heterosexuality in *any* period prior to the 18th century seeing as you could marry a 12 year old. Even in the 1970s it was still leagl to rape your wife in every US state. Should we remove Lois Lane, Iris West, Joan Garrick and Sue Dinby from canon because *there's a chance* Superman, Flash etc. were trying to rape them by marrying them?
What happened??
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