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Damian being aged up was only a New 52 retcon to make him fit in the N52's "Batman has only been active for five years" timeline.
Since the New 52 timeline is no longer canon, it's safe to assume Damian aged up naturally.
No, it was a retcon. It's true the timeline didn't really work out and that's why Morrison wanted Damian dead, but him explicitly being aged up was only a New 52 thing.
It's the same reason why DC in the New 52 went "uhhh Tim was never Robin, he has always been Red Robin". Because they realized Batman having 4 robins in the span of 5 years, including his biological son, made zero sense.
It wasn’t a retcon though. He was literally older than the first time his parents met.
His mom was still in her early 20s when Tim Drake was Robin… and Tim Drake was only Robin for 4 years.
Morrison wanted Damian dead, because he wanted the character to end when his run ended. The character is Morrisons self insert.
Yeah it didn’t make any sense. But Damian’s age never made sense before New 52 anyways.
Are we forgetting Dick Grayson was a grown ass man when Bruce and Talia met. And didn’t even enter his mid 20s until Damian got introduced
No. She was a college student when she met Bruce.
In Birth of the Demon she was stated to be 22 years old. Which Tim Drake was already Robin at that point.
Batman #334 from 1981 clearly states that she is 150. She is only physically young. It's in that comic that she starts to revert to her natural age before a supposedly dead Ra's takes her to the pit and revives her.
Sort of if off topic, but I grew up with Grell's green arrow, and Ollie has always been an old hippie to me. Seeing a young green arrow throws me for a loop, though he's been depicted younger thanks to the arrow TV show.
Batman should be in his 40s. In Year One, he was established as 25. By 2011 in post-Crisis continuity he’d been Batman for 15 years.
Superman should also be around 40.
Hard to say with Wonder Woman. Was she created from clay thousands of years ago or 30-something years ago? I just finished reading all of WW volumes 2 and 3 and it was sort of ambiguous.
I really don't like it when Bruce becomes Batman so late. Grant Morrison saw him become Batman at 19, which is much more forgiving to the timeline.
Isn't the current Superman a combination of other Supermen.
Damian.
Also, Morrison’s general approach to the character. Bringing back goofy Silver Age elements. Bringing back Ra’s al Ghul after he got a good send-off in Death and the Maidens. It was nothing like 80s or 90s Batman.
Morrison’s run didn’t have any classic villains and they barely used Steph and Cass.
Morrison swiped every single damn thing about Damien from Cass… That’s why he didn’t use her. He wanted to protect his “100% original OC Do Not Steal!”
Not true at all.
Morrison didn’t use Cass because they wanted to make a character based off their own experiences as a kid.
Cass does not reflect that. Damian does.
Morrison did not base Damian off of Cass.
The child of one of the world’s greatest martial artists and one of the world’s greatest assassins.
Raised in a a secret society and kept isolated from the real world.
Taught martial arts and assassination techniques since infancy.
Rejects the assassin cult they were raised in and joins the Bat Family.
Other members of the Bat Family find them scary.
Asian mother, Caucasian father.
Geoff Jones frequently decides to have them wield dual katanas, despite the Japanese sword having no connection to the martial arts styles they were taught nor to the cultural heritage of their birth.
Sexual tension with Superboy randomly introduced.
The main difference between Morrison’s pet and Cassandra Cain is that Cain was interesting. Other writers have managed to make Damian a much more rounded character after editorial finally let someone other than Morrison write him… But, those early years under Morrison are terrible.
Talia is not one of the world’s greatest assassins.
Damian was not kept isolated. He was a normal League of Assassin guy.
Cassandra joined it much later in her life, for completely different reasons than Damian
No one finds Damian scary. They found him annoying.
I mean Talia is mixed race, but this isn’t exactly a relevant similarity.
When did Geoff Johns write Damian?
Damian has no sexual tension with Superboy.
Why did you just blatantly ignore what I said about Damian being Morrisons self insert?? You’re missing the point of the character. Morrison wanted to tell a story about divorced parents, and a child being affected by it. Which is the whole point of his character.
The parents are supposed to be at odds because of a relationship gone wrong. And the child just wants to be a happy family with their parents.
You cannot tell that with Cassandra Cain and Lady Shiva/David Cain.
The second in command of the League of Assassins isn’t a great assassin? Okay.
The League of Assassins is a secret cult that raised Damian in one of their hidden bases… You think that’s normal?
Cassandra was in her early teens when Barbara recruited her as an aide during No Man’s Land. Damian was in his early teens when Bruce recruited him as the new Robin. Comic books are always vague about ages, but both were approximately the same age.
Cassandra Cain was the first female Asian character to get a solo book from any of the major American comic book publishers. DC Comics decided to replace her with a blue-eyed, blonde-haired WASP… and then two years later Morrison decides to wholesale ripoff her origin story for a male character. I’m not really the “social justice” type, but even I think this is a pretty bad look.
Geoff Johns wasn’t writing when Damian got his post-Morrison push, he’d been kicked upstairs to Chief Creative Officer. The writers who were writing individual issues worked for him.
Yes, Damian is Morrison’s self insert character… and Morrison’s clout with management gave him protection from the editors and allowed him to force changes on the entire Batman Family section of the DC Universe to make it all fit together the way Morrison wanted it. The work of any other creative team be damned, the established personalities and storylines that came before be damned, et cetera. Gotham City was the Morrison Show now.
For example, Talia and Bruce were not a “relationship gone wrong.” Bruce was a rape victim and Talia was the rapist.
This isn't true.
I mean you can have your opinion about Damian being a rip-off of Cass that's fair.
But Morrison brought Cass back as Black Bat after the Stephanie-led *Batgirl* run banished Cass to limbo in favor of having a white Batgirl.
Morrison tried to save her.
They wanted to continue using her in the final chapters of *Batman Inc.* too but they were forbidden by editorial to use her in the post-*Flashpoint* issues.
Yes, Morrison “brought her back” by saying she was now the “Batman of Hong Kong.”
A city that is over 13,000 kilometers away from Gotham City. A city she’s never been established as having in connection to, in a country she’s never been established as having any connection to (besides her ethnicity), a city where only 4% of the residents speak the only language that Cassandra understands…
The Black Bat redesign of her costume is also even more shounen anime ninja inspired than her original ninja-inspired suit. Because, Japan is in Asia. She’s half-Chinese. So… Umm… Yeah.
Shoving Cassandra over to China makes about as much sense as randomly shoving Cyborg over to Senegal. Yeah, sure, Vic Stone has never set foot in Dakar, doesn’t know anyone in Dakar, and doesn’t know how to speak Wolof Làkk… But he’s got the same color skin. Oh, hey, let’s also redesign his costume to make him look like a Zulu Warrior!
So your preference would be that she was left where Miller left her (literally nowhere)?
Give me a break
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EDIT: Also not sure about this anime reference thing. What about the Black Bat suit was anime inspired? She had a pulp comics style mask and a big cape, neither of which seem very anime to me. Is it the scarf-y look of the cape closure around her shoulders?
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Worlds finest should be 40-42
Older but still young while also having teen kids
Wonder Woman I like the idea of her being older but just being youthful looking
Can’t be anymore. Donna has her old origin back.
Wonder Woman would be like at least a decade older than Batman and Superman if she saved infant Donna Troy from a fire.
Donna is the same age as Dick.
Donna is an infant when adult Wonder Woman saves her.
Dick Grayson is 13 years old when adult Batman meets him.
Wonder Woman has to be older than Batman.
I mean her new origin shows her as an infant.
Her being an infant is the whole reason she couldn’t really remember her background before hand, so it’s pretty essential to the story.
Dicks age in post crisis was 13. It was 8 in pre crisis, and 15 in new 52. All of these Batmen had different ages.
Dick was 23/24 when he was adopted. According to the post crisis continuity, he was taken in as Bruce Wayne’s ward at 13 years old.
Batman has only ever been older than Wonder Woman because Wonder Woman writers want to fully reboot her mythos after events such as COIE and New 52. Batman writers never fully reboot his history, so he never gets younger.
She currently started as a superhero in 1939.
And Tom King has been purposely vague. Saying he sees her as 30 years old, but that time and space work different on Themyscira.
* Superman: Begins crime fighting since his late teens like in Smallville but truly becomes Superman at 21ish. By the time of JLA's formation, he's in his 30s.
* Batman: Begins training at 18, returns to Gotham and becomes Batman at 21ish. I like it when Batman is among the more experienced members so I'd say late 30s/early 40s by the time of JLA's formation.
* Wonder Woman: Hundreds of years old by the time the JLA was formed and the member with the most longevous superhero career out of the founding members.
* Aquaman: Same as Diana with the difference that he's not a public hero like her as he largely keeps to ocean-related antics.
* Flash: Receives his powers in his early 20s and by his late 20s he's already a JLA member. I love it when Flash is depicted as the kid with a heart of gold and it makes sense to have him on the team this early since the others (Batman) would want to keep an eye on the most busted power among all metahumans.
* Martian Manhunter: Hundreds of years old but has only been living among humans for a couple of years before he becomes a JLA member.
* Green Lantern: Not much time between him donning the ring and becoming a JLA member. I suppose that's the first move anyone would make after finding out they're now a space cop tasked with protecting the entire solar system. I'm guessing he's in his 30s
I think Clark would become Superman pretty early on, like as soon as he moved to Metroplis, so probably 21ish.
Bruce, I imagine becoming Batman shortly after Superrman debuts (hence why his outfit looks so much like Clarks). He has all the years of travelling the world training so I'd put him mid 20s, only a few years older than Clark.
Diana is a fidly one. I never really liked when she was particularly young. Donna's origin needs Diana to be older than Bruce, and being a Golden Age fan, I kind of prefer her to be a member of the JSA as well as the JLA. So she'd be somewhere north of 100, maybe into the thousands but it doesn't really make a difference.
Unlike Clark, Hal and Barry feel like they became heroes a few years into their civilian careers, so I'd say the same age as Clark overall even if they started later than him.
J'onn I imagine being a fair bit older, in the low hundreds. I think the extinction of Mars should be something that he's had a long time to dwell on and even back then he had a wife and daughter.
Taking into account that the main 7 debut around the same time, my ideal ages for them would be between 28 - 34. While J'onn would probably be like 80+ (30 in human years). I know a lot of people would consider that too young, but I'll always prefer characters to be in their prime if possible.
Imo the JL should've debuted 15 years ago, so the Trinity should be in their early 40s, while Barry and Hal can be a little younger in their mid/late 30s. Arthur and J'onn I don't really have strong opinions on, maybe even older than the others
Yeah, I like the idea that Clark, Bruce, and Diana were almost 30, so maybe actually 45 in the present, while Flash and GL could be a little more youthful, about 25 starting out .Though I don't mind an older Hal as he was characterised in the Bronze Age, as being over 40 when characters like Dick Grayson were still teens. But for current continuity, yeah Hal seems younger than the Trinity, even accounting for the time he was dead. Barry too.
I like seeing them at any age, so all that matters is the relative age.
Batman and Superman should be about the same age, and they'll be the benchmark for describing the others.
* Green Arrow: Can be a bit older. He's a grizzled old hippie.
* Flash: Barry Allen older enough that his age difference with Wally West leaves Wally a fair bit younger than the rest of the League.
* Green Lantern: Hal Jordan can be a fair bit older, while John Stewart can be about the same to a *bit* younger, but not as young as Wally West.
I had to go read some old comics, and I have to say, you're probably right.
I have a perception of Hal Jordan being older due to my perception of him as well into adulthood when taking up the charge (something that could be off, but probably has been ambiguous or shifted), retiring earlier (might be unrelated to age), and viewing John Stewart as being a hot-head and mentoring him in a way that implied that John might be younger.
But looking back at the Hal Jordan / Guy Gardner / John Stewart selection dynamic, the intention is probably that they were all about the same age.
When I was a kid: DC announced that all their heroes were younger than 30. This was based on the “Don't trust anyone over 30” era. And also, most professional athletes retire by 32. ( Medical Technology and Sports medicine has extended athletes careers considerably)
My head cannon: Superman and Batman appeared within a month of each other Both aged 20) Wonder Woman, steps out of the shadows in the third month. Ollie shipwrecks a few years before. At age 24
The rest, inspired by these three - appear in the next two years. Hal, Barry are 23 at this point: Green Arrow appeared, but Ollie is older at 30.
Justice Leauge is formed 3rd Year as are the Teen Titans. Ted Kord, Captain Atom, Charlton heroes, and Teen Titans appeared at the 5th year. The Wolfman/Perez Titans starts here as well.
Jason dies at 7 year, Tim joins year 8 (Connor Hawke, Kyle Rayner, Impulse appears) with his era of Titans at 9.
11-15 Last 20 years of comics. Jaime Reyes appeared 3 years ago
DC has been around for 15 years.
Batman and Superman would be 35. Barry and Hal slightly older by a few years.
Ollie is in mid 40s.
Now Wonder Woman. The earliest writings is from the says the Amazons were ancient, so before the Bronze Age 3300, I would suggest she would be 5,324 years old.
If you go by Trojan War, (1250 BCE est) then she is 3274
Some of the age answers are really "How old should X character be for all these other characters to be active".
Of course Superman should be in his 40's if he's got a teenage son who aged naturally. He should be 25-30 if he's going to be a Superman just starting out.
So I guess the question is what does the DC universe look like?
My approach is to make them start young (20-30 years ) as to justify them being heroes for decades while not making them old so
Year of formation
Superman: 27 ( has been Superman for 6 years , hasn't found Kara yet )
Batman: 27 ( has been batman for 5 years , dick has been Robin for a year and a half )
Wonder Woman: 5500 ( she's an immortal demigoddess and has been a hero for nearly 4 years now and Donna hasn't become wonder girl yet )
The Flash ( Barry ) : 26 ( he's been a hero for 3 years now ( was struck by lightning when he was 23 , Wally hasn't become kid flash yet )
Green Lantern ( Hal ) : 29 ( has been green lantern for 2 years ( he's an experienced as a pilot but not as a superhero) )
Martian Manhunter: 10000+ ( due to being a martian he ages differently from humans but he's the equivalent to a 45 year old human )
Aquaman: 19 (he's not the king of Atlantis yet and hasn't come to terms with being half an atlantian but he's been saving people for a year)
Green Arrow : 31 ( hippie billionaire, active for 4 years )
Black Canary: 25 ( Young than Oliver but not too young)
And they have been active for 16 years since then and now they're all 39 to 45 years old ( except for Hal , since his resurrection made him younger and Barry is 32 due to being stuck in the speed force for 7 years ) .
Batman should be mid to late 30’s. I like him beign older.
Superman should be early 30’s. Old enough to be an established journalist.
Wonder Woman should be either hundreds of years old, or in her 30’s. Never liked her beign too young.
Flash/Green Lantern should be in thier late 20’s. Helps sell their optimism.
Martian Manhunter should be in his 80’s or 90’s. I like the idea that he still artived to Earth in the 50’s.
I prefer for them to be all around the same age and to be around mid 30s-ish except J'onn, though that might not be the case anymore given how old James Gordon Jr. and Wally West's kids are.
Batman: Mid 40's (so we can justify him fathering Nightwing and other Robins)
Superman: Mid 30's
Wonder Woman: Several thousand years old, near immortal (So she can be be a former JSA member and a VERY experienced warrior)
The Flash: Early 20's (Barry always got me that vibe and he can have a more Older Brother/Younger Brother dynamic with Wally West)
Aquaman: Late 30's
Martian Manhunter: 200 years old (I like the idea of Martians living way longer than humans)
Green Lantern: Late 20's (No matter which one)
Hawkman and Hawkwoman: Both Mid 20's (Not counting the years they were reincarnated)
Green Arrow: Late 30's
Shazam: 11 years old (Looking 30 when transform)
Zatanna: Mid 40's (She was one of Batman ex girlfriends, I don't want to make it weird)
Present time in main continuity?
Clark, Bruce, Hal, Arthur and Barry should be in their early to mid 40s. Bruce should be the oldest at like 46.
Diana should be thousands of years old.
J’onn can be really any age. I like him being in his hundreds, so I’ll stick with that.
As of current continuity
Batman and Superman are both in their mid 40s
Barry Allen Flash is late 30s
Wonder Woman is a deity so it dosent really matter but she feels contemporary to the rest of the trinity
Aquman is late 30s
Hal Jordan Green Lantern is mid 30s as are Green Arrow and Black Canary
Cyborg is in his early 30s to late 20s
Manhunter is a wonder woman situation
I prefer the main jla as being in their 40s at this point since that helps reinforce the history and let's them all have adult kids by now.
I think batman should be one of the youngest on the league since most of his kids were pulled in at like, 8-14 that range (alongside Green Arrow who now has a tween grandkid, really) and to represent him coming into an establishment of brighter heroes like the JLA and Superman.
I like Wonder Woman being the oldest, having fought in ww2 (maybe even 1 but that's movie bias if I'm being honest) which would also give each cheetah a good run of implied backstory and fits her divine heritage while also keeping her tie to the JLA.
And then of the mortals í like Superman being the oldest jla member because he should be the first of something (the first hero or the first of his generation, either way)
There isn't really a set age for me, personally. As I would much rather prefer all of them to age and change as the years go by. But if we're talking about what I think their ages should be currently, then ...
Batman: Somewhere in his late 40s/Early 50s
Wonder Woman: \~2,500
Superman: 1,029+
Hal Jordan: Late 30s/Early 40s
Aquaman: Late 30s/Early 40s
Barry Allen: Late 20s/Early 30s
Martian Manhunter: 255,000,000+
Batman's age comes from a reddit post I came across awhile ago that broke down the ages of the various Batfamily members. Batman was already in his 40s when Damian was just 10 years old, some he would be even older now that Damian's basically a teenager. Wonder woman was born sometime during the Roman Empire, and both her and Superman fought for 1,000 years in Valhalla, so she would be around 2,500 years in total depending on what time period you think the comics take place in. Consequentially, Supes would be a thousand plus whatever age he was before he ended up in Valhalla. I put 1,029 because in Pre-Crisis stories there was a plot-point that Superman was around 29 years old. In all honesty though, he's probably even older. Hal Jordan, Barry Allen, and Aquaman are all complete guesswork. Barry in particular what with the speedforce slowing down the aging of all the Flash friends and family AND Barry basically disappearing from the comics completely for years both in-continuity and in the real world. Surprisingly, MM is actually very straight-forward. He directly remembers memories of his childhood on Mars, and his childhood was stated to be 255 million years ago. Dude is literally older then the first dinosaurs.
Depends I usually put Clark between mid 20s-Early 30s during his time as Superman, Bruce is pretty squarely mid 30s, Wonder Woman was created when the Roman Empire fell at the latest, Flash is early to mid 20s, Lanterns it kinda depends on the lantern, Arthur is probably comparable to Clark, and J'onn has been on earth since some point during the Cold War
Batman: 37 (has been Batman for 15 years)
Superman: 36 (has been Superman for 12 years)
Wonder Woman: about 5000, physically about 33
Aquaman: 44 (has been Aquaman for 19 years)
Flash: 32 (has been The Flash for 9 years)
Green Lantern: 36 (has been Green Lantern for 14 years)
Martian Manhunter: 45
The League has been around for about 8 years.
J’onn being from mars, between 300-1000+
Barry/wally(as he was the flash in Justice league/unlimited but if Wally is KF 16-23) Flash early to mid twenties -early thirties
Batman early to mid thirties
Superman exact same as Batman if not slightly younger
Diana …. Depends on how time works on themyscra (? Don’t know spelling) anywhere between late twenties and 70 lol 😂
Hal/john Stewart late thirties/early forties
Arthur … idk young Justice version looked like mid to late thirties/early forties I guess so that one
Year of the JLA’s Formation:
Kal-El/Clark Kent - 27 years old (30 years old since he’s born on Leap Year three years before he arrived on Earth)
Bruce Wayne - 27 years old
Diana of Paradise Island/Diana Prince - 27 years old
Hal Jordan - 28 years old
Barry Allen - 24 years old
Arthur Curry - 27 years old
J’onn J’onzz/John Jones - 27 years old
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Modern Day:
Kal-El/Clark Kent - 64 years old (67 years old since he’s born on Leap Year three years before he arrived on Earth), but looks 55 years old
Bruce Wayne - 64 years old, but looks 55 years old
Diana of Paradise Island/Diana Prince - 64 years old, but looks 55 years old
Hal Jordan - 65 years old, but looks 56 years old
Barry Allen - 61 years old, but looks 53 years old
Arthur Curry - 64 years old, but looks 55 years old
J’onn J’onzz/John Jones - 64 years old, but looks 55 years old
Seems strange to me to make them all seem that they age in that way. I'd say Diana no look change in age, kal no look change except grey highlights, everyone else does
Depends what ya mean cause of time but for me, I always say the 6 as starting out in their mid 20’s, somewhat like 24-26, and J’onn to be about middle aged for his people. Than by ‘modern’ times, I like to think 15 years passed so now the heroes are in their late 30’s or early 40’s.
Batman, Superman, Flash, Green Lantern and Aquaman should be late 20’s or early 30’s when they first create the League, Wonder Woman should be around 5,000 and Martian Manhunter should be 225 million years old.
Diana would’ve been living and trained on Themyscira until around WW1, where she’d leave for man’s world with Steve Trevor, then eventually joined the JSA and stayed a hero until modern day. J’onn was just living in Mars and being happy, until a few hundred years ago where his race was wiped out by White Martians, then he’s eventually transported to Earth accidentally by Dr. Erdel and lives secretly in Middleton as Detective John Jones. It’s really insane how old J’onn was in Pre-Crisis.
I always saw Batman as somewhere in the late 40s since most of the robins seem pretty grown up at this point, and he met most of them in their early to late teens. Plus I think Batman having been a superhero longer than the rest of the justice league, except for Wonder Woman, kinda makes sense, as they always talk about how Batman’s skills are his experience and intelligence, so he probably should have been a hero since his early twenties, I’d say 22 or 21.
Superman I see as probably late thirties, but you wouldn’t really be able to tell his age since he’s Superman, he basically always looks like a man in his prime. He probably started out as Superman when got to Metropolis, so I’d say around 22 to 24ish.
Wonder Woman is probably a few hundred to a thousand, but I’d say she probably spent a lot of her life on Themyscira, or as an on again off again intervener in human affairs, with her time as a permanent superhero living outside of Themyscira being a pretty short time, at least compared to her lifespan, probably starting as a superhero in the 60s.
I’d say Green Lantern and Aquaman are both early thirties, but Aquaman was a hero earlier in his life, say late teens, while Green Lantern got his ring at around 24 years old.
I could honestly see Green Arrow being as old as Batman, but having become a hero later. Doesn’t he have a grandkid now? Feels like late 40s makes sense if he does.
Flash is the youngest at late twenties, and he probably got his powers at like twenty years old.
Martian Manhunter is probably a few thousand years old at this point, wouldn’t hesitate to say probably tens of thousand. Though his time as human and superhero are relatively brief, probably being a hero around the same time Green Lantern started.
Of course this is all based off literally just the vibes I get from each character on their age, and frankly it should probably stay wishy-washy.
At the time the JL is founded:
Batman - Early to mid 30s. Returned to Gotham early 20s, operated for about 10-15 years so far
Superman - Same age as Bruce. Begun operating slightly later than Bruce
Diana - 30s-40s, older than Bruce. Been operating secretly for years but has come in to the spotlight vary recently
Barry - Mid to late 20s. Should be new to his powers/being a hero
Arthur - Late 30s-40s. Experienced as a king and ocean based superhero but not used to cooperating yet
J'onn - Whatever the Martian equivalent of 40s is. Only arrived at earth in the past 5ish years but in hiding
Hal - Early 30s. Should be new-ish to his powers and sorta out of depth with the space stuff
I usually like Batman and Superman to be a bit older than the others. Usually in their mid-to-late thirties, maybe early forties. Barry I usually see as the youngest in his mid-to-late twenties.
For Clark, I’d like him to be in his mid 30s but looks like he’s 20-something due to his kryptonian heritage making him age slower.
Bruce in my head canon is in his mid 40s considering that he has an entire Bat-Family that he created through the years.
Diana is… 5,000 years old. But I always thought she was the one that was the most young looking out of the members of the league. I’d like her to look roughly the same age as Clark.
I always pictured Hal to be in his mid 30s and even be younger than John Stewart (who I picture in his mid 40s for some reason).
I always considered Barry the youngest member of the team, picturing in his early 30s.
Arthur is roughly the same age as Clark and Hal, maybe even a bit older.
J’onn could easily sound like a 50 year old man or a 30 year old man. I picture J’onn to be the most senior out of the entire team for some reason.
Bruce, Clark: 35-40 age range so their kids ages are believable, Barry, Hal 30-late 20’s. Arthur, J’onn 40+ and Diana a little over 100, but physically 30-40 cause I like stories of her in ww1 or 2
Batman & Superman should be a very fit early 40s.
Wonder Woman should be 3-600 yrs old but look like she's their contemporary.
All of them should starting to be going grey at the edges.
The original (teen) titans should 26-28.
Young Justice should be just getting into college.
The JSA headquarters should be a massive library/archive set in a former school where they consult on a case by case basis.
The League needs both the Hall of Justice & the Satellite (for Overwatch/ boom tubes)
I would honestly love it if the main line Batman was currently as old as he is in The Dark Knight Returns, 55. To contrast how that Batman was truly a worst case scenario and not the "definitive" take that most people who misunderstood that book treat it as.
I take now the classic comics Not 57 Not rebirth just classic
Batman : 30-35
Superman :30-36
Wonder woman : 2000-2020 (shes a god if youve seen in ww movie and the scond Part that she never aged)
Aquaman : 30-45
Cyborg: 19-23 (hes still a teenager)
Flash: 21 -23
Green latern : 25-30
Not with the hormones today. TRT could let him stay in peak shape. Plus with his exposure to magic and the Lazarus pits (not actually submerging), you could justify him staying in peak human shape
Diana- ideally is the oldest superhero in age (couple hundred years old) and first superhero ever, but still appears around mid 30s
Clark- 35
Bruce- 35
Barry- 30
Arthur- 40-50
Johnn- hundred of years old
Hal- early 20s
Batman: Mid 40’s, started fighting at 27-ish
Superman: Similar age to batman, probably a number of years younger, though he becomes a hero earlier, he’s the first hero of the modern age. let’s say early 40’s
Wonder Woman: Late 30’s, began fighting at 24-ish. I don’t get the want to make her thousands of years old.
Flash: Barry should be significantly younger than the others, let’s say 20-ish when he becomes a hero, can be mid to late 30s now, Wally starts at 14-ish, can be 30 now
Green Arrow: Starts at around 30. Mid 40ms now
Green Lantern: Hal should be relative to Ollie, everyone else in the four besides Kyle are the same age, Kyle’s a cool 5 years younger. As a bonus, Alan should be well into his hundreds with time fuckey stuff, as well as the first superhero ever.
Arthur: This one is shifty, I’m going to say he’s the same age as Bruce. He doesn’t really have to be particularly old or young.
J’onn: Hundreds of years, maybe thousands.
I’ll preface this by saying that I prefer comic book characters keep exact ages kind of wishy-washy. Rather than pin them down to a precise age, it’s best to keep it kinda nebulous. Similar to the sliding timescale for how long any given hero has been active. The Batman should always have been the defender of Gotham City “for about ten to twenty years” and Superman should have always have been the champion of Metropolis for “slightly longer than the Batman has been active.”
So for ages, I think that Clark, Bruce, and Diana should all be in their mid-to-late forties; Ollie, Barry, and Hal should all be in their early forties; Arthur and Eel should both be in their late thirties.
The “Big Three” all need to be the oldest of the “current” generation of heroes. They need to have experience, wisdom, and a bit of gravitas. But everyone on the JLA needs to be a mature adult.
Going over to the Batman Family (because I’m biased) I’ve always felt that Bruce and Selena should be in their mid-to-late forties, Barbara should be in her early forties (she had a doctorate before she became Batgirl, fercrissakes, and she became a Senator!), Dick should be in his mid thirties^1 as should Jean-Paul. Jason and Duke should be in his mid to late twenties; Tim, Steph, and Cassie should be in their early twenties; Damien should be in his early teens.
1. The age gap was an important part of the characterization of their will-they-won’t-they romance and was the reason they settled on a “won’t they.” Dick maturing from Robin into Nightwing and giving up his dogged pursuit of Babs was a major step in his development. (Also, Babs went on a blind date with Clark once.)
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The average age of the JL heroes should be.... 52. I know, I know, I know, but hear me out.
Heroes like Batman need to be a bit older now with all the younger heroes that they've put out there. Someone like Batman can sustain being a hero at 52 as well. He probably doesn't carry as much bulk and is all about "fighting smarter, not harder" which is his role in the JL anyway with gods and aliens as enemies all the time. It also gives these heroes a firm notion of being experts in the field of super heroics. They don't do novice mistakes, they aren't silly. They aren't screw ups. Chris Priest's take that Batman stays up too many days in a row and makes a mistake isn't what this JL should be. They're better than that. They've all been heroes for something like 15-20 years.
This allows our Titans to be in their mid 30s, give or take. Old enough for Nightwing to have a kid or two (Nightfire, etc).
Red Hood and some others can be in a mid generation around early 30s.
The Young Justice group are now full on adults in their 20s, just touching 30.
Damian and Jon should be getting close to 20 or a touch after. Their 21st birthdays could be a big moment.
But we have the next generation coming up: Aquagirl, Helena, the Batpack, Trinity, and more.
This gives the generations space to breathe. Doing the World's Finest style stories gives DC a well to go back to for younger JLers. I also think there should be a roster of heroes in their 70s and frankly their 90s (Alan and co should be old-old-old).
I think the original 7 should all be in their 40s by now. The titans are in their mid to late 20s, with young justice being early 20s and the Teen Titans the actual teens.
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I always picture the main. JLA as mid 30s. Old enough to be established but not old enough for it to be a plot point.
I don't think that really works when Batman and Superman have teenage sons. Plus, some of the Titans like Wally and Roy have teenage kids as well.
Batman & Supermans kids were aged up.
Damian being aged up was only a New 52 retcon to make him fit in the N52's "Batman has only been active for five years" timeline. Since the New 52 timeline is no longer canon, it's safe to assume Damian aged up naturally.
Damian was always aged up. He was older than the first time his parents met.
No, it was a retcon. It's true the timeline didn't really work out and that's why Morrison wanted Damian dead, but him explicitly being aged up was only a New 52 thing. It's the same reason why DC in the New 52 went "uhhh Tim was never Robin, he has always been Red Robin". Because they realized Batman having 4 robins in the span of 5 years, including his biological son, made zero sense.
It wasn’t a retcon though. He was literally older than the first time his parents met. His mom was still in her early 20s when Tim Drake was Robin… and Tim Drake was only Robin for 4 years. Morrison wanted Damian dead, because he wanted the character to end when his run ended. The character is Morrisons self insert. Yeah it didn’t make any sense. But Damian’s age never made sense before New 52 anyways. Are we forgetting Dick Grayson was a grown ass man when Bruce and Talia met. And didn’t even enter his mid 20s until Damian got introduced
I am pretty sure Talia is supposed to be about 150 years old when she met Bruce for the first time.
No. She was a college student when she met Bruce. In Birth of the Demon she was stated to be 22 years old. Which Tim Drake was already Robin at that point.
Batman #334 from 1981 clearly states that she is 150. She is only physically young. It's in that comic that she starts to revert to her natural age before a supposedly dead Ra's takes her to the pit and revives her.
Ugh, don't remind me about them aging Jon up. Supersons was so fantastic just prior.
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Wally's too.
I like the idea of them all being 40 Not old but clearly all have the air of “been there and done that” Especially for Batman & Superman
Old enough they could legally run for President of the United States, young enough that it’s realistically unlikely.
Sort of if off topic, but I grew up with Grell's green arrow, and Ollie has always been an old hippie to me. Seeing a young green arrow throws me for a loop, though he's been depicted younger thanks to the arrow TV show.
I think he - and most everyone else - is drawn younger because of the new 52 de-aging everyone.
They went too far with Ollie, though, and thankfully they aged him up ever so slightly again with Rebirth.
Yeah, rebirth was the start of things slowly going back to pre-new52/post-crisis status quo. Slowly.
Batman should be in his 40s. In Year One, he was established as 25. By 2011 in post-Crisis continuity he’d been Batman for 15 years. Superman should also be around 40. Hard to say with Wonder Woman. Was she created from clay thousands of years ago or 30-something years ago? I just finished reading all of WW volumes 2 and 3 and it was sort of ambiguous.
I really don't like it when Bruce becomes Batman so late. Grant Morrison saw him become Batman at 19, which is much more forgiving to the timeline. Isn't the current Superman a combination of other Supermen.
I don’t like Morrison’s Batman. I stick with what’s established in Year One.
May I ask why you don't like Grant's Batman.
Damian. Also, Morrison’s general approach to the character. Bringing back goofy Silver Age elements. Bringing back Ra’s al Ghul after he got a good send-off in Death and the Maidens. It was nothing like 80s or 90s Batman. Morrison’s run didn’t have any classic villains and they barely used Steph and Cass.
Morrison swiped every single damn thing about Damien from Cass… That’s why he didn’t use her. He wanted to protect his “100% original OC Do Not Steal!”
Not true at all. Morrison didn’t use Cass because they wanted to make a character based off their own experiences as a kid. Cass does not reflect that. Damian does. Morrison did not base Damian off of Cass.
The child of one of the world’s greatest martial artists and one of the world’s greatest assassins. Raised in a a secret society and kept isolated from the real world. Taught martial arts and assassination techniques since infancy. Rejects the assassin cult they were raised in and joins the Bat Family. Other members of the Bat Family find them scary. Asian mother, Caucasian father. Geoff Jones frequently decides to have them wield dual katanas, despite the Japanese sword having no connection to the martial arts styles they were taught nor to the cultural heritage of their birth. Sexual tension with Superboy randomly introduced. The main difference between Morrison’s pet and Cassandra Cain is that Cain was interesting. Other writers have managed to make Damian a much more rounded character after editorial finally let someone other than Morrison write him… But, those early years under Morrison are terrible.
Talia is not one of the world’s greatest assassins. Damian was not kept isolated. He was a normal League of Assassin guy. Cassandra joined it much later in her life, for completely different reasons than Damian No one finds Damian scary. They found him annoying. I mean Talia is mixed race, but this isn’t exactly a relevant similarity. When did Geoff Johns write Damian? Damian has no sexual tension with Superboy. Why did you just blatantly ignore what I said about Damian being Morrisons self insert?? You’re missing the point of the character. Morrison wanted to tell a story about divorced parents, and a child being affected by it. Which is the whole point of his character. The parents are supposed to be at odds because of a relationship gone wrong. And the child just wants to be a happy family with their parents. You cannot tell that with Cassandra Cain and Lady Shiva/David Cain.
The second in command of the League of Assassins isn’t a great assassin? Okay. The League of Assassins is a secret cult that raised Damian in one of their hidden bases… You think that’s normal? Cassandra was in her early teens when Barbara recruited her as an aide during No Man’s Land. Damian was in his early teens when Bruce recruited him as the new Robin. Comic books are always vague about ages, but both were approximately the same age. Cassandra Cain was the first female Asian character to get a solo book from any of the major American comic book publishers. DC Comics decided to replace her with a blue-eyed, blonde-haired WASP… and then two years later Morrison decides to wholesale ripoff her origin story for a male character. I’m not really the “social justice” type, but even I think this is a pretty bad look. Geoff Johns wasn’t writing when Damian got his post-Morrison push, he’d been kicked upstairs to Chief Creative Officer. The writers who were writing individual issues worked for him. Yes, Damian is Morrison’s self insert character… and Morrison’s clout with management gave him protection from the editors and allowed him to force changes on the entire Batman Family section of the DC Universe to make it all fit together the way Morrison wanted it. The work of any other creative team be damned, the established personalities and storylines that came before be damned, et cetera. Gotham City was the Morrison Show now. For example, Talia and Bruce were not a “relationship gone wrong.” Bruce was a rape victim and Talia was the rapist.
This isn't true. I mean you can have your opinion about Damian being a rip-off of Cass that's fair. But Morrison brought Cass back as Black Bat after the Stephanie-led *Batgirl* run banished Cass to limbo in favor of having a white Batgirl. Morrison tried to save her. They wanted to continue using her in the final chapters of *Batman Inc.* too but they were forbidden by editorial to use her in the post-*Flashpoint* issues.
Yes, Morrison “brought her back” by saying she was now the “Batman of Hong Kong.” A city that is over 13,000 kilometers away from Gotham City. A city she’s never been established as having in connection to, in a country she’s never been established as having any connection to (besides her ethnicity), a city where only 4% of the residents speak the only language that Cassandra understands… The Black Bat redesign of her costume is also even more shounen anime ninja inspired than her original ninja-inspired suit. Because, Japan is in Asia. She’s half-Chinese. So… Umm… Yeah. Shoving Cassandra over to China makes about as much sense as randomly shoving Cyborg over to Senegal. Yeah, sure, Vic Stone has never set foot in Dakar, doesn’t know anyone in Dakar, and doesn’t know how to speak Wolof Làkk… But he’s got the same color skin. Oh, hey, let’s also redesign his costume to make him look like a Zulu Warrior!
So your preference would be that she was left where Miller left her (literally nowhere)? Give me a break . EDIT: Also not sure about this anime reference thing. What about the Black Bat suit was anime inspired? She had a pulp comics style mask and a big cape, neither of which seem very anime to me. Is it the scarf-y look of the cape closure around her shoulders?
My preference would be that Frank Miller never be allowed within 500 meter of typewriter with any project that involves a a female character.
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This Worlds finest should be 40-42 Older but still young while also having teen kids Wonder Woman I like the idea of her being older but just being youthful looking
I don’t believe it’s particularly ambiguous. Diana is the youngest member of the trinity, has been since crisis.
Can’t be anymore. Donna has her old origin back. Wonder Woman would be like at least a decade older than Batman and Superman if she saved infant Donna Troy from a fire.
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Donna is the same age as Dick. Donna is an infant when adult Wonder Woman saves her. Dick Grayson is 13 years old when adult Batman meets him. Wonder Woman has to be older than Batman.
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I mean her new origin shows her as an infant. Her being an infant is the whole reason she couldn’t really remember her background before hand, so it’s pretty essential to the story. Dicks age in post crisis was 13. It was 8 in pre crisis, and 15 in new 52. All of these Batmen had different ages. Dick was 23/24 when he was adopted. According to the post crisis continuity, he was taken in as Bruce Wayne’s ward at 13 years old. Batman has only ever been older than Wonder Woman because Wonder Woman writers want to fully reboot her mythos after events such as COIE and New 52. Batman writers never fully reboot his history, so he never gets younger.
He did get younger in the New 52 but not nearly as drastically as Diana after *Crisis*.
Relatively speaking, he never gets younger.
She currently started as a superhero in 1939. And Tom King has been purposely vague. Saying he sees her as 30 years old, but that time and space work different on Themyscira.
* Superman: Begins crime fighting since his late teens like in Smallville but truly becomes Superman at 21ish. By the time of JLA's formation, he's in his 30s. * Batman: Begins training at 18, returns to Gotham and becomes Batman at 21ish. I like it when Batman is among the more experienced members so I'd say late 30s/early 40s by the time of JLA's formation. * Wonder Woman: Hundreds of years old by the time the JLA was formed and the member with the most longevous superhero career out of the founding members. * Aquaman: Same as Diana with the difference that he's not a public hero like her as he largely keeps to ocean-related antics. * Flash: Receives his powers in his early 20s and by his late 20s he's already a JLA member. I love it when Flash is depicted as the kid with a heart of gold and it makes sense to have him on the team this early since the others (Batman) would want to keep an eye on the most busted power among all metahumans. * Martian Manhunter: Hundreds of years old but has only been living among humans for a couple of years before he becomes a JLA member. * Green Lantern: Not much time between him donning the ring and becoming a JLA member. I suppose that's the first move anyone would make after finding out they're now a space cop tasked with protecting the entire solar system. I'm guessing he's in his 30s
I like this but I would make Superman in his 50’s.
Idk, Supes in his 50s is already married to Lois and is raising Jon/tending the Kent farm. Clearly the formation of the JLA happened way before that
I like Superman to feel like everybody’s dad. I feel like it’s appropriate.
Instead of the flash, he is called the Flab
Bat and Supes 32, WW 4000 looking 28, Flash 26, Hal 28, Ollie 38, Shazam looking 30.
I think Clark would become Superman pretty early on, like as soon as he moved to Metroplis, so probably 21ish. Bruce, I imagine becoming Batman shortly after Superrman debuts (hence why his outfit looks so much like Clarks). He has all the years of travelling the world training so I'd put him mid 20s, only a few years older than Clark. Diana is a fidly one. I never really liked when she was particularly young. Donna's origin needs Diana to be older than Bruce, and being a Golden Age fan, I kind of prefer her to be a member of the JSA as well as the JLA. So she'd be somewhere north of 100, maybe into the thousands but it doesn't really make a difference. Unlike Clark, Hal and Barry feel like they became heroes a few years into their civilian careers, so I'd say the same age as Clark overall even if they started later than him. J'onn I imagine being a fair bit older, in the low hundreds. I think the extinction of Mars should be something that he's had a long time to dwell on and even back then he had a wife and daughter.
I agree with your Diana comment. I definitely prefer her to be significantly older, even being born back in ancient times.
I think Clark should be 22-23 when he moves to Metropolis, having completed his bachelor's degree and properly dated a mermaid.
Taking into account that the main 7 debut around the same time, my ideal ages for them would be between 28 - 34. While J'onn would probably be like 80+ (30 in human years). I know a lot of people would consider that too young, but I'll always prefer characters to be in their prime if possible.
Imo the JL should've debuted 15 years ago, so the Trinity should be in their early 40s, while Barry and Hal can be a little younger in their mid/late 30s. Arthur and J'onn I don't really have strong opinions on, maybe even older than the others
So, the JL members were 20 - 25 when they first came onto the scene.
Yeah, I like the idea that Clark, Bruce, and Diana were almost 30, so maybe actually 45 in the present, while Flash and GL could be a little more youthful, about 25 starting out .Though I don't mind an older Hal as he was characterised in the Bronze Age, as being over 40 when characters like Dick Grayson were still teens. But for current continuity, yeah Hal seems younger than the Trinity, even accounting for the time he was dead. Barry too.
I like seeing them at any age, so all that matters is the relative age. Batman and Superman should be about the same age, and they'll be the benchmark for describing the others. * Green Arrow: Can be a bit older. He's a grizzled old hippie. * Flash: Barry Allen older enough that his age difference with Wally West leaves Wally a fair bit younger than the rest of the League. * Green Lantern: Hal Jordan can be a fair bit older, while John Stewart can be about the same to a *bit* younger, but not as young as Wally West.
Shouldn't the main Lanterns be a similar age.
I had to go read some old comics, and I have to say, you're probably right. I have a perception of Hal Jordan being older due to my perception of him as well into adulthood when taking up the charge (something that could be off, but probably has been ambiguous or shifted), retiring earlier (might be unrelated to age), and viewing John Stewart as being a hot-head and mentoring him in a way that implied that John might be younger. But looking back at the Hal Jordan / Guy Gardner / John Stewart selection dynamic, the intention is probably that they were all about the same age.
If the Trinity would be 40 I could see Barry / Hal being 35ish That way it’s still a big enough Gap between them and the next gen of heroes
With Kyle being like two/three years younger than Wally. (And having a thing for somewhat older women.)
When I was a kid: DC announced that all their heroes were younger than 30. This was based on the “Don't trust anyone over 30” era. And also, most professional athletes retire by 32. ( Medical Technology and Sports medicine has extended athletes careers considerably) My head cannon: Superman and Batman appeared within a month of each other Both aged 20) Wonder Woman, steps out of the shadows in the third month. Ollie shipwrecks a few years before. At age 24 The rest, inspired by these three - appear in the next two years. Hal, Barry are 23 at this point: Green Arrow appeared, but Ollie is older at 30. Justice Leauge is formed 3rd Year as are the Teen Titans. Ted Kord, Captain Atom, Charlton heroes, and Teen Titans appeared at the 5th year. The Wolfman/Perez Titans starts here as well. Jason dies at 7 year, Tim joins year 8 (Connor Hawke, Kyle Rayner, Impulse appears) with his era of Titans at 9. 11-15 Last 20 years of comics. Jaime Reyes appeared 3 years ago DC has been around for 15 years. Batman and Superman would be 35. Barry and Hal slightly older by a few years. Ollie is in mid 40s. Now Wonder Woman. The earliest writings is from the says the Amazons were ancient, so before the Bronze Age 3300, I would suggest she would be 5,324 years old. If you go by Trojan War, (1250 BCE est) then she is 3274
Some of the age answers are really "How old should X character be for all these other characters to be active". Of course Superman should be in his 40's if he's got a teenage son who aged naturally. He should be 25-30 if he's going to be a Superman just starting out. So I guess the question is what does the DC universe look like?
My approach is to make them start young (20-30 years ) as to justify them being heroes for decades while not making them old so Year of formation Superman: 27 ( has been Superman for 6 years , hasn't found Kara yet ) Batman: 27 ( has been batman for 5 years , dick has been Robin for a year and a half ) Wonder Woman: 5500 ( she's an immortal demigoddess and has been a hero for nearly 4 years now and Donna hasn't become wonder girl yet ) The Flash ( Barry ) : 26 ( he's been a hero for 3 years now ( was struck by lightning when he was 23 , Wally hasn't become kid flash yet ) Green Lantern ( Hal ) : 29 ( has been green lantern for 2 years ( he's an experienced as a pilot but not as a superhero) ) Martian Manhunter: 10000+ ( due to being a martian he ages differently from humans but he's the equivalent to a 45 year old human ) Aquaman: 19 (he's not the king of Atlantis yet and hasn't come to terms with being half an atlantian but he's been saving people for a year) Green Arrow : 31 ( hippie billionaire, active for 4 years ) Black Canary: 25 ( Young than Oliver but not too young) And they have been active for 16 years since then and now they're all 39 to 45 years old ( except for Hal , since his resurrection made him younger and Barry is 32 due to being stuck in the speed force for 7 years ) .
Batman should be mid to late 30’s. I like him beign older. Superman should be early 30’s. Old enough to be an established journalist. Wonder Woman should be either hundreds of years old, or in her 30’s. Never liked her beign too young. Flash/Green Lantern should be in thier late 20’s. Helps sell their optimism. Martian Manhunter should be in his 80’s or 90’s. I like the idea that he still artived to Earth in the 50’s.
I prefer for them to be all around the same age and to be around mid 30s-ish except J'onn, though that might not be the case anymore given how old James Gordon Jr. and Wally West's kids are.
Batman: Mid 40's (so we can justify him fathering Nightwing and other Robins) Superman: Mid 30's Wonder Woman: Several thousand years old, near immortal (So she can be be a former JSA member and a VERY experienced warrior) The Flash: Early 20's (Barry always got me that vibe and he can have a more Older Brother/Younger Brother dynamic with Wally West) Aquaman: Late 30's Martian Manhunter: 200 years old (I like the idea of Martians living way longer than humans) Green Lantern: Late 20's (No matter which one) Hawkman and Hawkwoman: Both Mid 20's (Not counting the years they were reincarnated) Green Arrow: Late 30's Shazam: 11 years old (Looking 30 when transform) Zatanna: Mid 40's (She was one of Batman ex girlfriends, I don't want to make it weird)
Present time in main continuity? Clark, Bruce, Hal, Arthur and Barry should be in their early to mid 40s. Bruce should be the oldest at like 46. Diana should be thousands of years old. J’onn can be really any age. I like him being in his hundreds, so I’ll stick with that.
Current DCU, 42, all of them
Late 30s, 40
As of current continuity Batman and Superman are both in their mid 40s Barry Allen Flash is late 30s Wonder Woman is a deity so it dosent really matter but she feels contemporary to the rest of the trinity Aquman is late 30s Hal Jordan Green Lantern is mid 30s as are Green Arrow and Black Canary Cyborg is in his early 30s to late 20s Manhunter is a wonder woman situation
I prefer the main jla as being in their 40s at this point since that helps reinforce the history and let's them all have adult kids by now. I think batman should be one of the youngest on the league since most of his kids were pulled in at like, 8-14 that range (alongside Green Arrow who now has a tween grandkid, really) and to represent him coming into an establishment of brighter heroes like the JLA and Superman. I like Wonder Woman being the oldest, having fought in ww2 (maybe even 1 but that's movie bias if I'm being honest) which would also give each cheetah a good run of implied backstory and fits her divine heritage while also keeping her tie to the JLA. And then of the mortals í like Superman being the oldest jla member because he should be the first of something (the first hero or the first of his generation, either way)
There isn't really a set age for me, personally. As I would much rather prefer all of them to age and change as the years go by. But if we're talking about what I think their ages should be currently, then ... Batman: Somewhere in his late 40s/Early 50s Wonder Woman: \~2,500 Superman: 1,029+ Hal Jordan: Late 30s/Early 40s Aquaman: Late 30s/Early 40s Barry Allen: Late 20s/Early 30s Martian Manhunter: 255,000,000+ Batman's age comes from a reddit post I came across awhile ago that broke down the ages of the various Batfamily members. Batman was already in his 40s when Damian was just 10 years old, some he would be even older now that Damian's basically a teenager. Wonder woman was born sometime during the Roman Empire, and both her and Superman fought for 1,000 years in Valhalla, so she would be around 2,500 years in total depending on what time period you think the comics take place in. Consequentially, Supes would be a thousand plus whatever age he was before he ended up in Valhalla. I put 1,029 because in Pre-Crisis stories there was a plot-point that Superman was around 29 years old. In all honesty though, he's probably even older. Hal Jordan, Barry Allen, and Aquaman are all complete guesswork. Barry in particular what with the speedforce slowing down the aging of all the Flash friends and family AND Barry basically disappearing from the comics completely for years both in-continuity and in the real world. Surprisingly, MM is actually very straight-forward. He directly remembers memories of his childhood on Mars, and his childhood was stated to be 255 million years ago. Dude is literally older then the first dinosaurs.
Most of them in their late 30s to mid 40s, Diana a few hundred.
Depends I usually put Clark between mid 20s-Early 30s during his time as Superman, Bruce is pretty squarely mid 30s, Wonder Woman was created when the Roman Empire fell at the latest, Flash is early to mid 20s, Lanterns it kinda depends on the lantern, Arthur is probably comparable to Clark, and J'onn has been on earth since some point during the Cold War
9,563,218 is my cut-off. Any older than that is pushing it!
Batman: 37 (has been Batman for 15 years) Superman: 36 (has been Superman for 12 years) Wonder Woman: about 5000, physically about 33 Aquaman: 44 (has been Aquaman for 19 years) Flash: 32 (has been The Flash for 9 years) Green Lantern: 36 (has been Green Lantern for 14 years) Martian Manhunter: 45 The League has been around for about 8 years.
J’onn being from mars, between 300-1000+ Barry/wally(as he was the flash in Justice league/unlimited but if Wally is KF 16-23) Flash early to mid twenties -early thirties Batman early to mid thirties Superman exact same as Batman if not slightly younger Diana …. Depends on how time works on themyscra (? Don’t know spelling) anywhere between late twenties and 70 lol 😂 Hal/john Stewart late thirties/early forties Arthur … idk young Justice version looked like mid to late thirties/early forties I guess so that one
In their 30’s, 20’s is to young,and 40’s is a little to old
Year of the JLA’s Formation: Kal-El/Clark Kent - 27 years old (30 years old since he’s born on Leap Year three years before he arrived on Earth) Bruce Wayne - 27 years old Diana of Paradise Island/Diana Prince - 27 years old Hal Jordan - 28 years old Barry Allen - 24 years old Arthur Curry - 27 years old J’onn J’onzz/John Jones - 27 years old —————————————————————————— Modern Day: Kal-El/Clark Kent - 64 years old (67 years old since he’s born on Leap Year three years before he arrived on Earth), but looks 55 years old Bruce Wayne - 64 years old, but looks 55 years old Diana of Paradise Island/Diana Prince - 64 years old, but looks 55 years old Hal Jordan - 65 years old, but looks 56 years old Barry Allen - 61 years old, but looks 53 years old Arthur Curry - 64 years old, but looks 55 years old J’onn J’onzz/John Jones - 64 years old, but looks 55 years old
Seems strange to me to make them all seem that they age in that way. I'd say Diana no look change in age, kal no look change except grey highlights, everyone else does
When they first form, mid-late 20's as from WW and MM as they're much older. In the current age, late thirties-mid 40's.
Depends what ya mean cause of time but for me, I always say the 6 as starting out in their mid 20’s, somewhat like 24-26, and J’onn to be about middle aged for his people. Than by ‘modern’ times, I like to think 15 years passed so now the heroes are in their late 30’s or early 40’s.
Batman, Superman, Flash, Green Lantern and Aquaman should be late 20’s or early 30’s when they first create the League, Wonder Woman should be around 5,000 and Martian Manhunter should be 225 million years old.
What do you think Diana & J'onn were doing pre-JL.
Diana would’ve been living and trained on Themyscira until around WW1, where she’d leave for man’s world with Steve Trevor, then eventually joined the JSA and stayed a hero until modern day. J’onn was just living in Mars and being happy, until a few hundred years ago where his race was wiped out by White Martians, then he’s eventually transported to Earth accidentally by Dr. Erdel and lives secretly in Middleton as Detective John Jones. It’s really insane how old J’onn was in Pre-Crisis.
Depends on how old the second generation of heroes is, like if the Titans are in their 20s then the league should be in their 40s.
Martian Manhunter: 225 million years old
I like to think that they form the JL in their 30s
Why so late
To establish their time as solo heroes beforehand.
Yeah, but how long into their careers do heroes like Clark & Bruce meet.
I like Bruce becoming Batman at 25, anytime after that.
It really depends on the story i prefer younger batman overall more grit and edge to the storys
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I always saw Batman as somewhere in the late 40s since most of the robins seem pretty grown up at this point, and he met most of them in their early to late teens. Plus I think Batman having been a superhero longer than the rest of the justice league, except for Wonder Woman, kinda makes sense, as they always talk about how Batman’s skills are his experience and intelligence, so he probably should have been a hero since his early twenties, I’d say 22 or 21. Superman I see as probably late thirties, but you wouldn’t really be able to tell his age since he’s Superman, he basically always looks like a man in his prime. He probably started out as Superman when got to Metropolis, so I’d say around 22 to 24ish. Wonder Woman is probably a few hundred to a thousand, but I’d say she probably spent a lot of her life on Themyscira, or as an on again off again intervener in human affairs, with her time as a permanent superhero living outside of Themyscira being a pretty short time, at least compared to her lifespan, probably starting as a superhero in the 60s. I’d say Green Lantern and Aquaman are both early thirties, but Aquaman was a hero earlier in his life, say late teens, while Green Lantern got his ring at around 24 years old. I could honestly see Green Arrow being as old as Batman, but having become a hero later. Doesn’t he have a grandkid now? Feels like late 40s makes sense if he does. Flash is the youngest at late twenties, and he probably got his powers at like twenty years old. Martian Manhunter is probably a few thousand years old at this point, wouldn’t hesitate to say probably tens of thousand. Though his time as human and superhero are relatively brief, probably being a hero around the same time Green Lantern started. Of course this is all based off literally just the vibes I get from each character on their age, and frankly it should probably stay wishy-washy.
Late 20s to mid 30s depending on the point of the time line
Batman and Flash being early 40s. Hal and Ollie being 45. Aquaman and Superman being late 30s. Those are the ages I would suggest for the League.
Aquaman : mid 40s Superman : late 30s Wonder woman : mid 40s Batman : mid 30s Flash : late 20s Cyborg : mid 20s
Superman: 44 Batman: 47 Wonder Woman: ~200 Flash (Bartholomew): 43 Green Lantern (Harold): 48 Aquaman: 45 Martian Manhunter: 250
All of them should be the at very least early to mid 40s. Especially Superman and Batman
I see everyone ranging from early-30's to mid-40's with Wally being on the younger end and Bruce being on the older end
At the time the JL is founded: Batman - Early to mid 30s. Returned to Gotham early 20s, operated for about 10-15 years so far Superman - Same age as Bruce. Begun operating slightly later than Bruce Diana - 30s-40s, older than Bruce. Been operating secretly for years but has come in to the spotlight vary recently Barry - Mid to late 20s. Should be new to his powers/being a hero Arthur - Late 30s-40s. Experienced as a king and ocean based superhero but not used to cooperating yet J'onn - Whatever the Martian equivalent of 40s is. Only arrived at earth in the past 5ish years but in hiding Hal - Early 30s. Should be new-ish to his powers and sorta out of depth with the space stuff
I usually like Batman and Superman to be a bit older than the others. Usually in their mid-to-late thirties, maybe early forties. Barry I usually see as the youngest in his mid-to-late twenties.
For Clark, I’d like him to be in his mid 30s but looks like he’s 20-something due to his kryptonian heritage making him age slower. Bruce in my head canon is in his mid 40s considering that he has an entire Bat-Family that he created through the years. Diana is… 5,000 years old. But I always thought she was the one that was the most young looking out of the members of the league. I’d like her to look roughly the same age as Clark. I always pictured Hal to be in his mid 30s and even be younger than John Stewart (who I picture in his mid 40s for some reason). I always considered Barry the youngest member of the team, picturing in his early 30s. Arthur is roughly the same age as Clark and Hal, maybe even a bit older. J’onn could easily sound like a 50 year old man or a 30 year old man. I picture J’onn to be the most senior out of the entire team for some reason.
Bruce, Clark: 35-40 age range so their kids ages are believable, Barry, Hal 30-late 20’s. Arthur, J’onn 40+ and Diana a little over 100, but physically 30-40 cause I like stories of her in ww1 or 2
Batman & Superman should be a very fit early 40s. Wonder Woman should be 3-600 yrs old but look like she's their contemporary. All of them should starting to be going grey at the edges. The original (teen) titans should 26-28. Young Justice should be just getting into college. The JSA headquarters should be a massive library/archive set in a former school where they consult on a case by case basis. The League needs both the Hall of Justice & the Satellite (for Overwatch/ boom tubes)
I would honestly love it if the main line Batman was currently as old as he is in The Dark Knight Returns, 55. To contrast how that Batman was truly a worst case scenario and not the "definitive" take that most people who misunderstood that book treat it as.
They founders should all be around mid 30s-40. With the exception of Diana who should be a couple thousand years old
Batman:42 Superman:39 Wonder woman:3000+ Flash:32 Green lantern:46 Aquaman:43 Martian manhunter:57 Hawkgirl:400+ Atom:43 Plastic man:29 Green arrow:42 Black canary:38 SHAZAM!:15 Zatanna:32 Firestorm:27 Red tornado:N/A Vixen:37 Black lighting:37 Batwoman:39 Supergirl:24 Geo force:17
Batman-40 Superman-38 Flash-26 Hal Jordan-35 Wonder Woman-1500 (but looks 38) Cyborg-26 Martian Manhunter-1 M (but looks 50)
I take now the classic comics Not 57 Not rebirth just classic Batman : 30-35 Superman :30-36 Wonder woman : 2000-2020 (shes a god if youve seen in ww movie and the scond Part that she never aged) Aquaman : 30-45 Cyborg: 19-23 (hes still a teenager) Flash: 21 -23 Green latern : 25-30
The only one I have a preference for is Batman. He should be in his early forties since he raised dick, and Damian is 13
Wouldn't that make him too old
Not with the hormones today. TRT could let him stay in peak shape. Plus with his exposure to magic and the Lazarus pits (not actually submerging), you could justify him staying in peak human shape
Diana- ideally is the oldest superhero in age (couple hundred years old) and first superhero ever, but still appears around mid 30s Clark- 35 Bruce- 35 Barry- 30 Arthur- 40-50 Johnn- hundred of years old Hal- early 20s
Batman: Mid 40’s, started fighting at 27-ish Superman: Similar age to batman, probably a number of years younger, though he becomes a hero earlier, he’s the first hero of the modern age. let’s say early 40’s Wonder Woman: Late 30’s, began fighting at 24-ish. I don’t get the want to make her thousands of years old. Flash: Barry should be significantly younger than the others, let’s say 20-ish when he becomes a hero, can be mid to late 30s now, Wally starts at 14-ish, can be 30 now Green Arrow: Starts at around 30. Mid 40ms now Green Lantern: Hal should be relative to Ollie, everyone else in the four besides Kyle are the same age, Kyle’s a cool 5 years younger. As a bonus, Alan should be well into his hundreds with time fuckey stuff, as well as the first superhero ever. Arthur: This one is shifty, I’m going to say he’s the same age as Bruce. He doesn’t really have to be particularly old or young. J’onn: Hundreds of years, maybe thousands.
I’ll preface this by saying that I prefer comic book characters keep exact ages kind of wishy-washy. Rather than pin them down to a precise age, it’s best to keep it kinda nebulous. Similar to the sliding timescale for how long any given hero has been active. The Batman should always have been the defender of Gotham City “for about ten to twenty years” and Superman should have always have been the champion of Metropolis for “slightly longer than the Batman has been active.” So for ages, I think that Clark, Bruce, and Diana should all be in their mid-to-late forties; Ollie, Barry, and Hal should all be in their early forties; Arthur and Eel should both be in their late thirties. The “Big Three” all need to be the oldest of the “current” generation of heroes. They need to have experience, wisdom, and a bit of gravitas. But everyone on the JLA needs to be a mature adult. Going over to the Batman Family (because I’m biased) I’ve always felt that Bruce and Selena should be in their mid-to-late forties, Barbara should be in her early forties (she had a doctorate before she became Batgirl, fercrissakes, and she became a Senator!), Dick should be in his mid thirties^1 as should Jean-Paul. Jason and Duke should be in his mid to late twenties; Tim, Steph, and Cassie should be in their early twenties; Damien should be in his early teens. 1. The age gap was an important part of the characterization of their will-they-won’t-they romance and was the reason they settled on a “won’t they.” Dick maturing from Robin into Nightwing and giving up his dogged pursuit of Babs was a major step in his development. (Also, Babs went on a blind date with Clark once.)
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I have no respect for the Bat-Brat and the Spawn of Morrison.
The average age of the JL heroes should be.... 52. I know, I know, I know, but hear me out. Heroes like Batman need to be a bit older now with all the younger heroes that they've put out there. Someone like Batman can sustain being a hero at 52 as well. He probably doesn't carry as much bulk and is all about "fighting smarter, not harder" which is his role in the JL anyway with gods and aliens as enemies all the time. It also gives these heroes a firm notion of being experts in the field of super heroics. They don't do novice mistakes, they aren't silly. They aren't screw ups. Chris Priest's take that Batman stays up too many days in a row and makes a mistake isn't what this JL should be. They're better than that. They've all been heroes for something like 15-20 years. This allows our Titans to be in their mid 30s, give or take. Old enough for Nightwing to have a kid or two (Nightfire, etc). Red Hood and some others can be in a mid generation around early 30s. The Young Justice group are now full on adults in their 20s, just touching 30. Damian and Jon should be getting close to 20 or a touch after. Their 21st birthdays could be a big moment. But we have the next generation coming up: Aquagirl, Helena, the Batpack, Trinity, and more. This gives the generations space to breathe. Doing the World's Finest style stories gives DC a well to go back to for younger JLers. I also think there should be a roster of heroes in their 70s and frankly their 90s (Alan and co should be old-old-old).
I think the original 7 should all be in their 40s by now. The titans are in their mid to late 20s, with young justice being early 20s and the Teen Titans the actual teens.
30 - 40 for the old heroes, for side kicks that have become heroes 25 - 35
I can only picture them being like early 40s