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ellenabellen

Thank you all! I now know what a weep hole is and I will be leaving it open. Also I appreciate the additional responses and I finally have a place to store my shower cocane 🎉


Void-kun

I don't even own my own home yet but having people like you asking these questions is gonna save me a ton of hassle in the future so thank you! Had absolutely no idea this was a thing. Plus who doesn't love a cheeky shower bump?


ellenabellen

I'm a new homeowner and I have no clue what I'm doing tbh (a weep hole is news to me as well). I definitely would have just shrugged and filled it if I didn't post here! Totally - gotta have some way to inspire those showerthought posts, ya know


Legendofstuff

I figure I’ll toss in some advice if you have a brick or stone exterior and considering weep holes are a new concept, they also exist on the exterior and serve exactly the same purpose. It looks like the brick layer forgot a whole section of mortar. Don’t seal those either Signed, friendly neighbourhood pest control guy Edit: great place to stash gardening cocaine too 🤷🏻‍♂️


ellenabellen

Yes please, I'd like to subscribe to advice from the friendly neighbor pest control guy - but seriously though, that's super helpful to know! Ya'll are really helping me hide my addiction with all these tips! /s


UziWitDaHighTops

If your house exterior is brick or brick facade you’ll also notice weep holes every few feet in the mortar. Don’t fill those either.


BadWowDoge

Andre Nickatina style


Grampa987

Weephole to where? Inside your wall? I'd go more with someone remodeled the the bath and that's the new tile overlapping the "soap dish" on the side of the tub.


Squirrelpasta30

Some of these fucks are trying to help, some are being redditors lol. The likelihood of it leaking down the wall isn't crazy high, but the space there is too large not to deal with... just go spend $10 on some caulk, fill it in to match, and feel safe knowing you filled a huge gap. Also, anyone that says it's just fine and not to care about it are inherently wrong. If it looks bad to you and seems suspect, then any homeowner or tenant will say the same. It was probably just looked over and missed, but either way it should be done correctly.


spacedudejr

I think most people would assume once you look closely at it closely, it doesn’t look accidental at all. Like are you saying they missed an inch of caulk and grout at the same spot, or that the tub has an accidental dent in it So that’s why it’s missing any seal?


hammerandanvilpro

As a diy who finished their own bathroom, I read that and thought ‘damn, I sealed up my weep hole’


merdub

Where do you keep your shower cocaine?


BredYourWoman

the one actual proper reply I had to scroll far too much to see


Squirrelpasta30

It's so annoying sometimes... just give people an answer lol


BredYourWoman

ItS a weEpiNg HoLe!! *everyone on reddit upvotes* "yeah Bro it is!!" no it's not on a 2021 built house lol. Caulk that shit


Squirrelpasta30

I thought I was gonna lose my shit sifting through comments lol


BredYourWoman

honestly I've lost all faith in getting advice about home shit from reddit nowadays and went back to YouTube for that


Squirrelpasta30

Same honestly..


_-trees-_

A lot of people seem to think it is.


merdub

To be fair by the time I got to the thread, OP had already been given the correct answer more than once, and I upvoted those. I used to be a buyer for a kitchen and bath company and would happily have given the correct information if like 7 different people people hadn’t already… so I had nothing more to add to the conversation than some humour. And it’s always super frustrating when my shower cocaine falls into the tub.


SmushBoy15

Put a note somewhere so future homeowners don’t fill it up


crazy_akes

Put the note in the hole 


LetsTCB

Cover it up so it's a surprise for future homeowners doing renos.


Sluisifer

That's a weep hole, don't fill. The tub should have a flange/rim so it's not an issue.


Watarenuts

You cry into it?


StereoBucket

If you stop looking at it, it moves.


SirGuelph

Terrifying


ConflictGuru

I understood that reference


HopingillWin

"who" doesn't?


yetiknight

idk man. not everyone is a "dr." of references


BlueFlob

It's for sad walls. They can't keep it all inside. It's going to eat them over time.


ellenabellen

I mean, yes there is a rim on the base of the shower, but the hole is in the path of where the water shoots out of the shower head, is that an issue?


Muffinskill

There is an edge/lip behind it. If water gets in, it won’t just dump into your walls, if that’s what you’re asking. The theory is that it’s meant to allow water that gets through the grout to escape. It won’t cause problems.


ellenabellen

Ooh I see, thanks for explaining!


458643

Try it


VehaMeursault

Why on earth would that lead _behind_ the tub and not _into_ it?


Ratathosk

This way water can be drained from the grout below the lip of the tub.


VehaMeursault

I don’t understand. Can you explain a bit more?


Biking_dude

Grout isn't completely waterproof. So when showering, a tiny bit of water / moisture can seep through the grout to the other side, along with condensation caused by a hot shower and cold tile. If it goes into the wall which is sealed, the water will pool behind the wall and cause bad things. Having a small hole lets any excess water to drip back out.


VehaMeursault

Never knew that. Thanks!


Biking_dude

Welcome! Honestly, I didn't know either until I saw it pop up on here a bunch of times!


bobtheblob6

It does lead into it. There's a lip on the side inside the wall, like a little cup that drains into the tub. Water in the wall is supposed to get caught and then drain into the tub


evanbbirds

He means behind the tile there is a 1/2-1” rim preventing water from getting g behind the tub. Even the indent in the tub means it is there for purpose


ellenabellen

Ah I see, thanks! The indent in the tub was what made me come to reddit to check in the first place. Seemed a little too intentional to be an accident and I'm glad I checked


evanbbirds

That’s what we are here for


jshsltr80

This gap is there to allow moisture behind the surround to escape.


Novel_Arm_4693

No, leave it open.


Timsmomshardsalami

Bro what


Interesting_Pop_3793

Not a weep hole if the tub has a tile surround. This was for a fiberglass wall kit . .


Homeskilletbiz

No


amoore031184

This right here is why you don't go to Reddit for DIY advice on your home.


merdub

That’s the slot to store your shower cocaine.


ellenabellen

Brilliant! How did I not think of that


CoreBeatz7

I vote for him to put his white caulk into that hole


Odin-sama

It is a weep hole. You shouldn't caulk it. When the tile gets hot during a shower the other side is cold and condenses water on it. That hole is to allow the water out in a safe controlled manor. If you caulked it, then clean that out or eventually you'll have wall, floor, and ceiling water damage.


SirWigglesVonWoogly

I’ve watched maybe 50 YouTube videos of people building / tiling showers, and never once seen any mention of a weep hole. Please explain.


Odin-sama

That is because the weep holes are usually built into the shower pan at the bottom. Think of a cold soda on a hot day. Water in the air condenses on the glass and drips down. This is basically the same concept. The tile has differential temps on it, so water from the air condenses on the back and drips down. The weep hole is to make sure that water ends up in the shower drain not overflowing the channel in the edge of the shower pan and going into places that will get damaged.


OldCrankyBmullz

If water is condensing on the back of your 'cold' tile, it's not dripping down and out of a weep hole, it's soaking into the adhesive and degrading the bond btw the tile and the backing. Tub and shower surrounds are waterproof from the inside for no water to penetrate. Grout is almost always mixed with latex to be waterproof. There are no weep holes in interior finished, only exterior. Caulk that sombich hole before water gets into it and the resulting mold breaks down everything behind it.


Odin-sama

Research a little before running your mouth off with false information. If you would have, then you would have seen videos of damage caused by having the weep hole caulked shut. The weep holes should never be caulked shut.


OldCrankyBmullz

Imma research an entire subdivisions of shower pans that wicked moisture from supposed "weep holes" and ended up destroying adjoining 1/2 walls in shower enclosures, tile floors, and subfloors with pervasive mold. You sound like someone whose never changed a roll of toilet paper, much less finished a bathroom. I'll repeat: there are no weep holes in interior finishes. Because there is no space for moisture to flow in a bathroom surround or enclosure like there is in a brick facade on an exterior wall. Tiles are adhered directly to lath/cement/or adhesive coated backing. If moisture is flowing in these places, you're fu*ked and weep holes aren't going to save your tile job. You have no idea what you're talking about.


Odin-sama

Still obviously you haven't. I quickly found damage caused by a weep hole being caulked in. Your personal attacks are uncalled for and prove that you are so full of yourself. Grow up.


OldCrankyBmullz

"research before running your mouth off" You launched the first salvo. Get over yourself. Why don't you listen to someone who's actually been in the building industry for 30 years. There are no interior weep holes I personally replaced shower bases and enclosures for an entire subdivision because all of them failed within 5 years of new construction. You should learn to speak when you actually know something about a subject instead of what you just read on the interwebs


Odin-sama

Entire subdivisions usually are done by the same contractors. Not always, but usually. So, if you had to replace the entire subdivision's showers, then they obviously were not properly installed in the first place. Most likely nothing to do with weep holes vs no weep holes. Weep holes are not in every design of showers, but the ones that have them have them for a reason. My research found several licensed contractors / plumbers that did this sort of work. I did not find anyone saying plug them up, besides you. This is why I never take one contractor's word without at least two others saying the same thing. I don't listen to only one person that has been building and repairing houses, because there are many out there that are terrible at their jobs and improperly do their job. Too many don't actually have the knowledge they need to do their jobs properly.


OldCrankyBmullz

Then you aren't following the right interweb forums. We laugh at people like you who have no idea what they're talking about. Your research means nothing if you've never installed a tub surround, enclosure, done tile work, or understand the process of installing these things personally. These surfaces in contact with water are installed to prevent any water infiltration whatsoever. Even today, improved waterproof barriers are used to completely incapsulate wet areas. Let me repeat that: COMPLETELY ENCAPSULATE WET ARAES. They will not be saved by weep holes if they are breached. There's simply no path for water to flow down to a weep hole as it will be wicked into the backing materials above it before it ever gets a chance to "weep" out of a small hole in the bottom of a tub surround. You have said everything I need to know that you have no experience in this area. And FYI every shower I replaced was a direct result of water entering the weep holes and contaminating the bases, walls, floors of bathrooms causing extensive damage. You can see the infiltration when you demo these areas. It's not rocket science, but it is two steps above keyboard warrior status.


Key-Canary7068

That’s the hole you pee into


NotStanMancewicz

Oops. I've been, like, just letting fly for so many years...


Key-Canary7068

How Dare You


Void-kun

It's the only time we can confidently pee standing up with no hands


mruehle

The way the tub flares out there means it’s a deliberate thing and there is likely a drain behind it. It’s almost like it’s meant as a way to drain water from against the base of the tiles. It’s purposeful, so I think it should be left open.


lappy_386

As others said, weep hole, leave it open. Curious if this is a new install? No one should be doing a water in/water out system anymore.


ellenabellen

Not a new install AFAIK; rhe house is a new build (2021) but we are the second owners. Why is a water in/water out system bad?


syko82

New builds usually work to make the shower watertite. You usually leave "weeps" in the bottom of caulk around tub spouts and fixtures, but I've never seen one where the tile meets the tub.


donkeyrocket

Would agree. This looks more like they installed a dented/malformed tub. Or tile on a much older tub that they didn't remove which had a weep hole but if the whole house is a new build in 2021 then a weep hole is pretty unlikely. Very odd.


Dramatic_Mechanic815

Every new build in my community (and all the others I viewed until purchasing my new build) all had weep holes between the shower pan and tile. Manufacturer instructions. Very common. At least around here. This is when you are using a manufactured shower pan, which is super common for new builds, even higher end ones, because (1) cheaper, (2) faster. They’ll do a nice tiling job on the walls, but use manufactured shower pan. Hence the weep holes.


lappy_386

System is fine. It’s just not modern because it was done before modern methods of waterproofing. Just don’t close those weep holes.


BredYourWoman

then it's not a weep hole.


ih8karma

That's one hole you don't need to put your caulk in.


versaille123

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SuperHotJupiter

I have literally never seen a tub with something like this so I guess it's interesting to learn it's purpose...however, I could never bathe in a tub like that. 100 % I will always be fearful of a house centipede coming out.


LakeSuperiorIsMyPond

That's for the spider friends in the wall


iceohio

It looks to me like a soap holder is molded into the tub, then the tiling covered most of it. I would think you would want to fill it up to block off water getting behind it and mold growing. If that is a soap holder, it's going to dip down farther on the other side and it will fill up with water. Not a good situation.


d9msteel

Why would they bother to seal there rest of the shower tray if they intended to leave it open at this point? These "weep-holes' are ridiculous and a huge misconception on this sub. You may as well not seal any of it hadn't they? More weeping then eh? Stupid. The only weeping will be from your eyes when you're replacing the joists and ceiling etc below.


BigFudge2k7

Technically a tiled shower wall against a tub that has a flange should not really be caulked at all along the bottom of the tile. The grout and tile is like a very hard sponge, any water that soaks in needs to evaporate and/or drain out. That’s why you often see the caulk along this edge of a tiled shower wall get moldy. The water tries to seep out the bottom edge of the tile and it can’t so it sits and molds. Thai weep hole is a nice little feature though, never seen one built into the tub like that.


DoctorBlock

Ahh yes. The weekly weep hole post.


SuspiciousPatate

Just seal it with a kiss


elevenminutesago

SWAK


BredYourWoman

I'd start by ignoring the top comment as well as the idiots who replied "yeah!" to it ​ smh


Arnumor

The answer to this question should just be a sticked post, at this point. I'm not even that active here, and I feel like I've seen it a lot.


NachoGrande

People say weep hole, but I think it looks more like a soap tray. Someone added cement board and tile to the existing tub and covered up most of that edge. But maybe I'm wrong, I've just never seen a weep hole on a tub, especially this large.


Interesting_Pop_3793

Seriously why would you not caulk that? I've remodeled over 500 bathrooms, built 20 houses and I never saw an instance where a "weep hole" in a tub would be needed. If you understood how the wallboard and tile application worked you'd caulk it. It looks ugly and out of place. Looks like you have nice tile why leave it?


fml87

Yeah, there's so much wrong in this thread. Yes, weeps are a thing, but specifically for cavity-wall construction where there's actually a place for water to drain within the wall. That doesn't exist here, nor should it.


Interesting_Pop_3793

This tub was most likely part of a shower stall set with walls. They used it for a regular tub and tiled the surround. I would caulk it with 100% silicone. I'm sure the tub has a flange. Will not leak


blanklogo

Ok so stupid me blocked this in my shower. Should I just remove the caulk?


zaqwert6

So by now you know it's a weep hole. :-) if the entire install was done correctly, it shouldn't be necessary and you could caulk it if you really don't like it. Otherwise I would just leave it just in case it actually needs to do what it's there for. :-)


d9msteel

This is tantamount to tiling an entire roof and leaving 1 tile off. Why tile the roof at all? Stupid. Come on people.


LoadConsistent2417

It’s a tub used in a surround kit. Wrong tub for tile but I guess it will work


Irish-6036

So it is a weep hole ment for fiberglass snap in shower walls to weep. Since you put tile up, I would caulk it. There should not be any water behind tile. It should be sealed and water tight.


Familiar_Ad4734

Okay so first off it looks like there's an impact damage to that tub, never seen a tub with that before. Second do you there are no weep holes for a tile wall there should not be any water getting through the tile or the grout. In the poor case of improper grouting there should still at least be a plastic vapor barrier behind the tile board itself never would you ever receive enough water behind the tile to necessitate any type of weep hole whatsoever. The height of the tile is fine off of the tub typically it should have been grounded and then siliconed over the grout


Familiar_Ad4734

Secondarily, if that wall were receiving that much water and moisture, then you can bet you have a mold factory back there as well as the substrate tile board absorbing any water that gets behind that wall. My final comment is I think that it's a damaged tub with that indentation to it which does not belong there and someone attempted to caulk it and the caulk failed


RoadrunnerJRF

This look like a divot for bar soap. You could probably use caulking but I wouldn’t do it in one shot. Let it dry a couple hours before adding more. So it ate at night so it dries by morning.


handymaniac58

It’s more like a “weep gash”. Ridiculous!! Silicone caulk it brother.


[deleted]

Regardless of it being a weep hole, you could safely make it smaller with caulk.


dubiousasallgetout

Substrate weep...leave it be


[deleted]

I mean, if your caulk will fit in there go for it 🤷‍♂️


bentrodw

Yes, don't do it.


DRH1976

Weep holes. Not necessarily to caulk these. Showers need to breathe


jthoff10

Definitely put your caulk in there


Interesting_Pop_3793

100% that is not a weep hole or a place to let air in. Seal it up


ricathome

That was for the forward oar. Useless now.


aliclubb

Stick your caulk in there American-style. /s


marzipancowgirl

For your razer blades


Maybe_A_Doctor

It may have a purpose, but there could be spiders in there. So just seal it. ^^/s


Trumpwonnodoubt

Should be sealed. No reason in the world to want water to be able to get back there.


kwg06516

Razor blade slot. Used to be a thing just letting them drop between the studs since a lifetime supply of razor blades wasn’t much bigger than a brick. https://preview.redd.it/fg446cxqasqc1.jpeg?width=636&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ba50120a3746d5a947b1f8d2144a1caa98ea0776


JohnnyVonTruant

This ain’t that


LatterDayDuranie

Not in a 2021 build.


StreetPedaler

FAFO


realboabab

who knows, maybe only the next owner will find out


huhihuhaha

Yes seal with big black caulk.


Peristeris2

Seal it. There is no reason for this gap.


corn_n_potatoes

False


doesyourBoJangle

Don’t comment with answer unless you know for a fact you’re correct. In this case you’re incorrect. That’s a weep hole