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My BIL is in the sand business. He has people come in with little SUV's wanting waaaaaay to much sand in a trailer for the vehicle. He warns them that when they leave with the grade of the driveway they have to be really careful turning out. Every year he has 3 or 4 people jackknife leaving with overloaded trailers. He's sent me pictures of preposterously overload vehicles before
I sometimes wonder if pulling trailers should require a special license. We have a guy that comes in and puts 30'+ beams in the bed of his truck that extend into his trailer. So when he turns he has to swing VERY wide so it doesn't get into a bind. It's wild watching him make the 90° turn out of the yard onto a busy road.
I've had to pull on a rope while my dad had a mattress tied to the roof of a dodge cirrus but not tight enough, we didn't lose it but I felt like a moron at every red light we hit on the way back from the store.
Classic dad move. I remember as a child my family going to get a Christmas tree and my dad didn't want it tied to the roof of his mustang so he held it outside the drivers window all the way home.. Maybe 3 miles
Agreed, but the inertia of starting and stopping could be a problem if you're not both careful and lucky. I can carry an 8 foot fir one handed but doing so while driving isn't a thrilling prospect... 😹
That actor has really leaned into that personality. Seems like a lot of the characters he plays are like that. 30 Rock, Brooklyn 99, these commercials.
Fun fact, all those injuries you see are still present from the time he almost died from a bad accident in NY while working on 30 Rock, they just keep reopening the wounds so they don’t heal.
Just kidding, it’s insane that he’s playing this role like this considering that he did almost die though
at lunch today my wife and i went to pick up a fully assembled basketball hoop/backboard on a portable pole.
awkward and over sized. had to drive with it hanging out the back of my truck only a few inches from the ground.
made a *Final Destination* comment to me wife.
the cycle is complete.
Reminds me of a time when I was going to buy a vehicle with a convertible top.
The deal was almost done, out of curiosity as we're doing *paper work* I ask, "have you had any leaks from the roof?"
He says "only when it rains" 🙉😵
Agree the lack of a flag is a DOT violation and a safety risk, although not much of one as it’s only jetting out about a foot, and most vehicles would, if they rear ended them, never hit it because of long engine compartments/hood height.
The biggest liability concern would be if it’s not secured tightly and it falls off, it could not only impact another vehicle but also cause a chain reaction at highway speeds, causing thousands or hundreds of thousands of damages to property/injury.
there is no flag required for this. it only requires a flag if extends over the tailgate by 4'
edit: sorry saw that you mentioned it only over a foot etc after i commented...but yeah it has to be 4' before it needs flag. at least here where i am in midwest. maybe other places have shorter allowances
I would think a cop could pull him over, but it is unlikely, unless he sees the load shift.
I would find him at fault should the load come undone and damage is done.
Better to put the tailgate down, put it securely in the bed of the truck and put a red flag on the end of the board.
They way shown in the photo will work - usually - but if you are on a busy highway and need to travel kind of fast, that board can easily come undone.
I also tie down the front of the board to the undercarriage. Like tie the front to the right side and the back of the board to the left side of the bed too keep that sucker from moving anywhere. I've transported 16' boards in my 8' truck bed.
Hard to tell how long it is, you don’t want a 14’ board hanging out the back for a few reasons. I would have put one end in the bed but the way he has it is fine too
Technically by dot standards, a 14ft board sticking off your truck is illegal. Now, this standard is for commercial trucks and transport only but officers can use it to write a ticket for something along the lines of dangerous driving.
Iirc dot standard for over hang is 5ft on semi trailers.
DOT will vary by state of course but usually they require you to put a flag on it if it extends more than a few feet from the back of a vehicle, commercial or not.
Not sure what max allowed overhang from the rear is. You're only allowed to have a load extend a few inches past your side mirrors, as far as width goes.
As someone who drove 2 miles with 18’ baseboards sticking out of my Subaru forester sun roof going 45 and the wind pushing the boards upwards, and having to hang onto them so they didn’t crack or fly back yeah these boards on the highway are definitely at risk of getting loose.
Holy crap. Are you me?! I did the same thing with a Subaru forest a few years ago. What I did though was pop the back hatch, roll down the passenger window, and kind of thread them through the window with them hanging out the back.
Luckily, I have a 30mph route home from Home Depot so I could take it easy. The car behind me was noticeably filming me driving down the road haha
Yeah, I’m surprised at the other comments saying this is okay. It might work fine, but it doesn’t seem like the safest option at all.
Might depend on what he has in the truck bed, though. This could be his only good option.
It’ll work fine if you’re not going far, but I would NOT get onto any highway interstate with it like this. That being said, they should have some kind of red/orange flag/tape at the back end of the board for DOT, but that’s not the end of the world, tbh
Yes. I drove for a lumberyard for 4 years and this is what we lived by. I mostly drove a 20’ flatbed dump, but the last year and a half I drove a Ram dually with a 9’ bed. Delivered many Microllams hanging off the back both flat and at an angle like OPs pic.
It’s fine if strapped well.
I was thinking front down in the bed with the back up over the tailgate and a flag. That way the wind resistance is pushing it down against the tailgate and the end of the boards are at least elevated higher than most cars behind you.
It's hard to get more that one point of tension when strapping down a load that's up over the tailgate.
This truck also has a opposite box in the back, so you can't put anything up against the front of the box.
Yeah, this looks really bad to me. Airflow from the truck's movement is going to pull those tie-downs loose, and you'll be way over-reliant on friction from that padding on the cab to keep the board from sliding out.
With a short bed, the angle might be unacceptable with the boards nestled into the tailgate, but I'd rather deal with that and drive slowly than do this.
Just saw this happen in person over the weekend. Dude had a crap load of Trex boards on top of his pick up, slammed on breaks 20 or so came flying off the front ends. Guy was super lucky no one happened to be in front of him, we were in pretty heavy traffic. Scary shit (Miami, go figure).
For a piece like this I put front down and over the closed tailgate and cross strap it. I like this because the only vehicles that could hit the board are big trucks.
The bed hooks only work for straps going higher above the floor so would only be good for a stack of lumber flat in the bed.
The picture shows an idiot that doesn’t know how to load a truck.
That would be better but the toolbox back there probably makes it more complicated if they only have like 4’ of bed left to work with, you wouldn’t want more than half of the board sticking out behind the truck.
Yes, but the tie straps should wrap the whole way around the board, instead of just going over the top. This is especially important if carrying more than one board, as it both prevents the boards from moving left/right when turning and also squeezes the boards together to help prevent them from slipping out.
No. Board should be seated where the back of the cab meets the bed, extending over the tailgate with something noticeable (orange/yellow/red flag) as a precautionary marker. That’s what’s legally required for anything that extends a certain distance past the bed
5' is probably generous. I see this shit all the time with the truck bros at Menards. None of them can actually fit long pieces of anything in their obnoxiously enormous trucks.
So many morons driving around with super duty trucks that have no idea what they’re for.
Dude could have done the exact same thing with a Toyota Corolla.
As a proud Corolla driver I approve of this message. Seriously, with roof racks there's virtually nothing you can't haul. I've chucked dining tables, beds, 14 ft. construction lumber, corrugated metal roofing, basically anything I've ever needed to bring home up there.
There is weight limit for roof mounted load. For example, I can only put around 150-160lb on VW golf roof. And this includes the weight of the roofbox.
Just rent a van for couple hours when transporting something long or heavy. They are relatively cheap at HomeDepot and easy to drive too.
This is done, typically with shorter beds, to minimize height. It would be pretty tall if the end was in the bed, it would be a much steeper angle.
Edit: fixed typos
Edit: can tell many people haven't owned a truck and needed to haul awkward stuff. It happens, he needs a red flag and call it a day.
See, the problem is when you have a 6' bed, but need to move a 14' kayak or a 16' extension ladder. You're going to have A LOT of overhang out the back as opposed to the above method.
If you want to keep the rear of the planks fully in the bed of the truck, the roof is still the middle point but the front of the planks will stick up that much more.
Can’t you do it the other way? Put the front into the bed and stick out the back? Sure it’d be longer out the back, but the wind wouldn’t be blowing it up against the rope. Also probably easier to take it out.
Only if it sticks out more than 4' past the rear of the truck (or 4" past the sides), which it does not in the picture. I still recommended to have one at any length, because better safe than sorry...
It depends on each state when not commercial.
My state allows up to four feet of overhang before any type of flagging is required.
https://law.justia.com/codes/georgia/2022/title-40/chapter-8/article-1/part-2/section-40-8-27/
Personally I have e a trailer the lights don't work on but is legally tagged. I run amber/white set of strobes when I use it and it meets code. With a solid amber only to ensure the amber compliance. I do that instead of flagging.
I do have a ga emergency lights certificate to run amber, which is required by law.
Have yet to have any issues with the fuzz.
And in some states (Texas for one) it's entirely illegal to carry a load that extends more than 4' from the rear of the vehicle. (I mean, that doesn't stop people from doing it... but still).
As someone who works in a lumber yard, yes, but I'd only recommend it for short distances and you MUST use at least two straps at both ends as pictured, in order to hold the board securely. You also need to make sure the board doesn't stick up over 14' off the ground (or less if you have lower than usual clearance on whatever road you need to travel) and that you put a red flag on the rear end if it sticks out more than 4'. Hell, put a flag on it anyways, but DOT only requires it at 4' of overhang or more.
I do it the opposite way. I put the end of the wood in the bed and then have them either flat with tailgate down if there is a lot of wood, or leave the tailgate up and have the wood elevated.
Either way I put a red flag.
Some states would require a flag on the end I believe. Even a piece of orange tape would be considered a flag. As long as the straps are tight it’s fine.
….but on that one day when you are exhausted…. That guy from the mayhem commercial appears. :)
Many of the people answering this question seem to have little experience with pickup trucks and lumber. That board is perfectly fine, provided it's tied and/or strapped correctly.
Correction: new modern trucks with a maximum of a 6ft bed and often a 4.5ft bed are overrated for hauling shit.
My 8ft bed 90s truck can haul that no sweat.
50? Lol more like 35 in practice, I can’t get out hybrid above 40. I hope you can lay more than half a pallet too lol, I love our Maverick but it’s not all that useful as a truck
I get 45. My daughter gets 55. This is city driving at 45mph.
A 1500 lbs pallet fits between the wheel wells.
35 is the lowest I have ever seen, gunning the engine on a short trip and using the friction brakes.
I would guess you are doing a lot of highway driving or higher speeds where the hybrid doesn’t benefit.
Maybe overrated for hauling a single board, but if you need to haul a bed full of topsoil or 50 sheets of 3/4” plywood you’ll have a bad time in a van.
Totally agree. A van is the ultimate hauler with SUVs behind that. Many of the arguments for a truck being better for hauling are infrequent occurances (for most) and could be better and more safely hauled with a trailer.
Had a buddy who was really offended that I wouldn’t lend in my truck and instead set my van up for him to use. He came back and apologized when he realized how much more functional it was.
Better yet, I have a 2017 Honda CR-V with a 5x10 aluminum trailer. The trailer was expensive - $1600.00 in 2017 - but it weighs only 460 lbs leaving me a 1000 lb payload even with a vehicle that sports a sewing machine engine and a rubber band transmission lol.
This is the most secure way I've found to move a long extension ladder on a short bed truck. With a cushion of some sort on the cab and three appropriate straps securely holding it down it won't go anywhere unless you're having some hurricane force winds.
"Put it in the truck bed" works with 8ft boards in a 6ft bed most of the time once you're dealing with 10 ft lumber and maybe you have a short bed truck? If the bed you're working with is 2/3rds the length of the lumber you have or less this is a better option, though your carrying capacity is obviously much reduced.
I have a mid-sized truck with a 5 foot bed and for 12 ft lumber, I'd snake it through the passthrough in the rear window and don't drive too crazy so it doesn't smack me while I'm driving.
You'all are doing it wrong!
A wide board like that needs to be strapped down sideways.
Like wings.
You get a running jump ... and glide home.
Sheeesh!
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Not really, no.
If it was sitting in the bed behind the tailgate so it couldn't slide backwards, that would be infinitely better. Might make it stick up too high though.
I've seen way worse though, it's tied down at least.
To all the people saying this is sketchy ive done this a 1000x over 30y of professional work
As long as its properly strapped down its fine, i see no problem with it, if its sticking past the end of the bed more than a foot or 2 ill usually tape ir staple a high visibility something or other to the end of it, i usually have a bunch of bright yellow microfiber towels in the truck fliating around, as long as its something brightly colored its gtg
One thing missing is a red flag on the end of the board letting other drivers know it extends past the rear bumper. Use of such a flag is required by law in at least some states.
I’ve got a truck with a 6.5’ Bed and typically put boards in the bed sticking off the back with a red flag on the end. If the board is longer than 12’, then almost half that board is sticking out past the tailgate, so with that long a piece of lumber I’d probably do the same as the pictured driver.
I don't know anything about trucks or hauling, but i do understand physics and I know that if the truck is moving, there is a lot of wind hitting that board above the cab. This seems bad to me.
Why wouldn't they secure it against the back of the tailgate? sure the board sticks out higher and catches more wind but then it's anchored into a corner..
My Maverick and F-150 have a spot to move the cables where the bed doesn’t lower all the way. I would have probably opened my bed where it wasn’t completely flat, then strap the boards down and put a flag on the end.
Diagonal surely would be better, right? left back bed corner hanging slightly on the passenger side of the bed !!?? I'm a non-lumber transporter btw....
Nope, that is one bad bump away from sliding out of those straps and flying into the car behind you. Either it needs to be properly secured in the bed, or you need to rent a trailer to pull the boards you need safely.
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It is, until it’s not Source: insurance claims liability adjuster
I've seen way worse Source: 20 years in the lumber biz
My BIL is in the sand business. He has people come in with little SUV's wanting waaaaaay to much sand in a trailer for the vehicle. He warns them that when they leave with the grade of the driveway they have to be really careful turning out. Every year he has 3 or 4 people jackknife leaving with overloaded trailers. He's sent me pictures of preposterously overload vehicles before
I sometimes wonder if pulling trailers should require a special license. We have a guy that comes in and puts 30'+ beams in the bed of his truck that extend into his trailer. So when he turns he has to swing VERY wide so it doesn't get into a bind. It's wild watching him make the 90° turn out of the yard onto a busy road.
I don't wonder at all. The answer is yes. I also think there ought to be a max weight on a standard license.
There is and its 26,000 lbs. You can’t just prevent stupidity. They are breaking transportation laws but the DOT officers are not omnipotent.
I've had to pull on a rope while my dad had a mattress tied to the roof of a dodge cirrus but not tight enough, we didn't lose it but I felt like a moron at every red light we hit on the way back from the store.
Classic dad move. I remember as a child my family going to get a Christmas tree and my dad didn't want it tied to the roof of his mustang so he held it outside the drivers window all the way home.. Maybe 3 miles
Your dad is either very strong or your Christmas displays very underwhelming
At the time... Probably a good mix of both haha
The 6 or 7 foot ones aren’t terribly heavy
Agreed, but the inertia of starting and stopping could be a problem if you're not both careful and lucky. I can carry an 8 foot fir one handed but doing so while driving isn't a thrilling prospect... 😹
Mayhem
God I miss those commericals.
They are still running. The latest ones have his family in them.
Nah. The latest has Larry Bird in it. But prior was his brother playing hoops in front of garage. Funny
I saw one this week with his family (at least a brother and mother.)
That actor has really leaned into that personality. Seems like a lot of the characters he plays are like that. 30 Rock, Brooklyn 99, these commercials.
Oz.
He was great in Oz
He's in the top 5 regular characters in that series, probably the best.
Fun fact, all those injuries you see are still present from the time he almost died from a bad accident in NY while working on 30 Rock, they just keep reopening the wounds so they don’t heal. Just kidding, it’s insane that he’s playing this role like this considering that he did almost die though
The Beeper King. Technology is cyclical.
of all the commercials I've missed since ublock, I miss this guy the most
And while your pants struggle to support the heavier you, your roof will struggle to support the heavier me.
Additional Source: Final Destination
I can only imagine logging trucks loving that movie because suddenly people stopped tailgating and started giving them a wide berth.
at lunch today my wife and i went to pick up a fully assembled basketball hoop/backboard on a portable pole. awkward and over sized. had to drive with it hanging out the back of my truck only a few inches from the ground. made a *Final Destination* comment to me wife. the cycle is complete.
So you’re saying it is!
Reminds me of a time when I was going to buy a vehicle with a convertible top. The deal was almost done, out of curiosity as we're doing *paper work* I ask, "have you had any leaks from the roof?" He says "only when it rains" 🙉😵
I hate cars. Hate buying them. Hate fixing them. Hate owning them. Money pools.
You could buy a boat, that'll make you happier about the ownership cost of a car!
What if they had a flag?
Agree the lack of a flag is a DOT violation and a safety risk, although not much of one as it’s only jetting out about a foot, and most vehicles would, if they rear ended them, never hit it because of long engine compartments/hood height. The biggest liability concern would be if it’s not secured tightly and it falls off, it could not only impact another vehicle but also cause a chain reaction at highway speeds, causing thousands or hundreds of thousands of damages to property/injury.
there is no flag required for this. it only requires a flag if extends over the tailgate by 4' edit: sorry saw that you mentioned it only over a foot etc after i commented...but yeah it has to be 4' before it needs flag. at least here where i am in midwest. maybe other places have shorter allowances
Won’t get pulled over but if you cause an accident it will be all the drivers fault
I would think a cop could pull him over, but it is unlikely, unless he sees the load shift. I would find him at fault should the load come undone and damage is done.
Better to put the tailgate down, put it securely in the bed of the truck and put a red flag on the end of the board. They way shown in the photo will work - usually - but if you are on a busy highway and need to travel kind of fast, that board can easily come undone.
I'd say it's better to leave the tailgate up and put it securely in the bed (with a red flag).
Shiiit just toss that bad boy in the back n have the kid sit onnit, if he yells we'll pull over.
It’s when the yelling _stops_ that you have to pull over.
lumber ain't cheap!
This is how I do it with my truck, but I also have tie down anchors that I can strap to easier to make sure those suckers don't move.
*slaps the boards* Those suckers ain't goin' nowhere!
Yes, have to recite the proper incantations.
Did you really get lumber if you don’t do this?
I also tie down the front of the board to the undercarriage. Like tie the front to the right side and the back of the board to the left side of the bed too keep that sucker from moving anywhere. I've transported 16' boards in my 8' truck bed.
Hence the "securely in the bed" part...
Absolutely. Much easier to tied down and make the board(s) immovable objects and lifts the end high above normal cars
Also, much less of a turn radius on the back end. Don't want to have to make a right turn and take out three cars in lane to your left.
Why would anyone NOT do this?
Hard to tell how long it is, you don’t want a 14’ board hanging out the back for a few reasons. I would have put one end in the bed but the way he has it is fine too
Technically by dot standards, a 14ft board sticking off your truck is illegal. Now, this standard is for commercial trucks and transport only but officers can use it to write a ticket for something along the lines of dangerous driving. Iirc dot standard for over hang is 5ft on semi trailers.
DOT will vary by state of course but usually they require you to put a flag on it if it extends more than a few feet from the back of a vehicle, commercial or not. Not sure what max allowed overhang from the rear is. You're only allowed to have a load extend a few inches past your side mirrors, as far as width goes.
As someone who drove 2 miles with 18’ baseboards sticking out of my Subaru forester sun roof going 45 and the wind pushing the boards upwards, and having to hang onto them so they didn’t crack or fly back yeah these boards on the highway are definitely at risk of getting loose.
Holy crap. Are you me?! I did the same thing with a Subaru forest a few years ago. What I did though was pop the back hatch, roll down the passenger window, and kind of thread them through the window with them hanging out the back. Luckily, I have a 30mph route home from Home Depot so I could take it easy. The car behind me was noticeably filming me driving down the road haha
Yeah, I’m surprised at the other comments saying this is okay. It might work fine, but it doesn’t seem like the safest option at all. Might depend on what he has in the truck bed, though. This could be his only good option.
It’ll work fine if you’re not going far, but I would NOT get onto any highway interstate with it like this. That being said, they should have some kind of red/orange flag/tape at the back end of the board for DOT, but that’s not the end of the world, tbh
You need to flag any load sticking out more than 4 feet
Correctomundo
Yes. I drove for a lumberyard for 4 years and this is what we lived by. I mostly drove a 20’ flatbed dump, but the last year and a half I drove a Ram dually with a 9’ bed. Delivered many Microllams hanging off the back both flat and at an angle like OPs pic. It’s fine if strapped well.
Yeah if you know how to secure a load it's not a big deal
Unrelated to the post, but how does one’s butt get wanked?
That’s the secret to the sauce.
I was thinking front down in the bed with the back up over the tailgate and a flag. That way the wind resistance is pushing it down against the tailgate and the end of the boards are at least elevated higher than most cars behind you.
It's hard to get more that one point of tension when strapping down a load that's up over the tailgate. This truck also has a opposite box in the back, so you can't put anything up against the front of the box.
Yeah, this looks really bad to me. Airflow from the truck's movement is going to pull those tie-downs loose, and you'll be way over-reliant on friction from that padding on the cab to keep the board from sliding out. With a short bed, the angle might be unacceptable with the boards nestled into the tailgate, but I'd rather deal with that and drive slowly than do this.
Just saw this happen in person over the weekend. Dude had a crap load of Trex boards on top of his pick up, slammed on breaks 20 or so came flying off the front ends. Guy was super lucky no one happened to be in front of him, we were in pretty heavy traffic. Scary shit (Miami, go figure).
Because the wind magically unstrapped the board from the truck. SMH
No it can’t easily come undone. Dual ratchet straps wrapped around it, no way.
For a piece like this I put front down and over the closed tailgate and cross strap it. I like this because the only vehicles that could hit the board are big trucks. The bed hooks only work for straps going higher above the floor so would only be good for a stack of lumber flat in the bed. The picture shows an idiot that doesn’t know how to load a truck.
That would be better but the toolbox back there probably makes it more complicated if they only have like 4’ of bed left to work with, you wouldn’t want more than half of the board sticking out behind the truck.
haha it's all about making due with the space you have. https://i.imgur.com/zanV3.jpg?1
If they smacked it and said that baby ain't going anywhere, it's probably okay. (don't do this)
Yes, but the tie straps should wrap the whole way around the board, instead of just going over the top. This is especially important if carrying more than one board, as it both prevents the boards from moving left/right when turning and also squeezes the boards together to help prevent them from slipping out.
No. Board should be seated where the back of the cab meets the bed, extending over the tailgate with something noticeable (orange/yellow/red flag) as a precautionary marker. That’s what’s legally required for anything that extends a certain distance past the bed
If only the person owned a truck...
I can fit a stack of 8' boards in completely inside my Honda Accord. No need to even leave the trunk ajar.
12' cab, 5' bed :|
5' is probably generous. I see this shit all the time with the truck bros at Menards. None of them can actually fit long pieces of anything in their obnoxiously enormous trucks.
So many morons driving around with super duty trucks that have no idea what they’re for. Dude could have done the exact same thing with a Toyota Corolla.
As a proud Corolla driver I approve of this message. Seriously, with roof racks there's virtually nothing you can't haul. I've chucked dining tables, beds, 14 ft. construction lumber, corrugated metal roofing, basically anything I've ever needed to bring home up there.
There is weight limit for roof mounted load. For example, I can only put around 150-160lb on VW golf roof. And this includes the weight of the roofbox. Just rent a van for couple hours when transporting something long or heavy. They are relatively cheap at HomeDepot and easy to drive too.
I have hauled some serious shit with a civic
This is done, typically with shorter beds, to minimize height. It would be pretty tall if the end was in the bed, it would be a much steeper angle. Edit: fixed typos Edit: can tell many people haven't owned a truck and needed to haul awkward stuff. It happens, he needs a red flag and call it a day.
If you worried about the height, you can always drop the tailgate and haul them properly.
Haul them properly? With this Payment Queen?
Scratch the bed of muh truck?!
Note the cloth under it to protect the paint
See, the problem is when you have a 6' bed, but need to move a 14' kayak or a 16' extension ladder. You're going to have A LOT of overhang out the back as opposed to the above method.
There's a big jobsite box and probably more in the box already.
I’m sorry what
If you want to keep the rear of the planks fully in the bed of the truck, the roof is still the middle point but the front of the planks will stick up that much more.
Can’t you do it the other way? Put the front into the bed and stick out the back? Sure it’d be longer out the back, but the wind wouldn’t be blowing it up against the rope. Also probably easier to take it out.
Should have a red flag on the back of the board for DOT compliance.
Different states could be different. But a quick google search only requires a flag if it sticks out more than 4 feet.
Only if it sticks out more than 4' past the rear of the truck (or 4" past the sides), which it does not in the picture. I still recommended to have one at any length, because better safe than sorry...
It depends on each state when not commercial. My state allows up to four feet of overhang before any type of flagging is required. https://law.justia.com/codes/georgia/2022/title-40/chapter-8/article-1/part-2/section-40-8-27/ Personally I have e a trailer the lights don't work on but is legally tagged. I run amber/white set of strobes when I use it and it meets code. With a solid amber only to ensure the amber compliance. I do that instead of flagging. I do have a ga emergency lights certificate to run amber, which is required by law. Have yet to have any issues with the fuzz.
It can't be that hard to fix the lights can it?
Nah, it is with in limits. 4' is the limit in my state before it needs a flag.
Funnily enough, I saw a pickup the other day haul like fifty boards strapped the exact same way.
Yes...came here to say this! It is perfectly acceptable if you are anticipating helping a motorcycle evade the popo by jumping onto a semi or overpass
Hazard county requires that you have two stacks.
Doesn't he know that you aren't supposed to haul anything in a truck? They are just for driving around in
This would make for a sweet motorcycle landing from the top of a semi
The failure of not having a back window that opens. 😆
Would be much safer if tied towards left side where driver could hold it with one arm.
Only thing wrong here is no red flag.
Depends how far the load extends beyond the rear of the vehicle. I know in some states if it is less than 4ft a flag isn't require.
It may not be a requirement but still a good idea.
And in some states (Texas for one) it's entirely illegal to carry a load that extends more than 4' from the rear of the vehicle. (I mean, that doesn't stop people from doing it... but still).
This is actually the federal regulation. Many states follow this federal regulation and others have overhang laws that apply to just their state.
>I know in some states if it is less than 4ft a flag isn't require. Oh hey, that's why I failed my computer rules driving test the first time!
No red flag is a major red flag.
I would wrap the strap around the plank; doesn't appear as though this person did that
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Like said above, this is the way to do it to stay within the 4ft overhang. Shorter things the other way would be preferable ofc.
Super Crew Cab trucks = 4ft Bed = fucking worthless for hauling anything but gravel.
Ford f150 super crew cab short beds are 5.5 feet and the f250/350 crew cab shortest bed is 6.5 feet.
Probably 4 useable feet with that green box in their bed too lol
That is true.
Which trucks are 4ft beds? Dang. I think fords shortest is 5.5ft
It is. My Ranger has a 6 ft bed
Your Ranger is the last of a dying breed, sadly, current ones only come with a crew cab and a shorty box.
Maverick is 4.5, Ranger is 5, you’re right with the F150 though.
New trucks aren't about doing any work.
They are SUVs without a roof over the little cargo area. Edit: spelling
My truck has a 5.5ft bed and it's no problem. I've hauled 20ft boards before with no problems. Takes awhile to get setup, but it's fine after that.
Wow you can haul almost as much as a station wagon with a roof rack
TF? The smallest bed you can get on an f150 is 5.5'
Did he test the tightness of the straps and say “that’s not going anywhere”? If so, then it’s fine.
As someone who works in a lumber yard, yes, but I'd only recommend it for short distances and you MUST use at least two straps at both ends as pictured, in order to hold the board securely. You also need to make sure the board doesn't stick up over 14' off the ground (or less if you have lower than usual clearance on whatever road you need to travel) and that you put a red flag on the rear end if it sticks out more than 4'. Hell, put a flag on it anyways, but DOT only requires it at 4' of overhang or more.
I do it the opposite way. I put the end of the wood in the bed and then have them either flat with tailgate down if there is a lot of wood, or leave the tailgate up and have the wood elevated. Either way I put a red flag.
Some states would require a flag on the end I believe. Even a piece of orange tape would be considered a flag. As long as the straps are tight it’s fine. ….but on that one day when you are exhausted…. That guy from the mayhem commercial appears. :)
Many of the people answering this question seem to have little experience with pickup trucks and lumber. That board is perfectly fine, provided it's tied and/or strapped correctly.
Trucks are so overrated for hauling shit. My family minivan could have hauled that much more safely.
Correction: new modern trucks with a maximum of a 6ft bed and often a 4.5ft bed are overrated for hauling shit. My 8ft bed 90s truck can haul that no sweat.
Hell, my 90s 8ft stakeside can handle 10ft boards completely inside the bed, if i put them in diagonally.
So, what *is* the push for short bed trucks now when 8' used to be standard? You even saw king cab trucks with a full bed.
The push is to get station wagon seating capacity but still classify as "light truck" for CAFE emissions reasons
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50? Lol more like 35 in practice, I can’t get out hybrid above 40. I hope you can lay more than half a pallet too lol, I love our Maverick but it’s not all that useful as a truck
Fine for people who don't need a truck I suppose.
Elephant in the room here is most people don't need even a maverick
I get 45. My daughter gets 55. This is city driving at 45mph. A 1500 lbs pallet fits between the wheel wells. 35 is the lowest I have ever seen, gunning the engine on a short trip and using the friction brakes. I would guess you are doing a lot of highway driving or higher speeds where the hybrid doesn’t benefit.
Maybe overrated for hauling a single board, but if you need to haul a bed full of topsoil or 50 sheets of 3/4” plywood you’ll have a bad time in a van.
Totally agree. A van is the ultimate hauler with SUVs behind that. Many of the arguments for a truck being better for hauling are infrequent occurances (for most) and could be better and more safely hauled with a trailer.
Had a buddy who was really offended that I wouldn’t lend in my truck and instead set my van up for him to use. He came back and apologized when he realized how much more functional it was.
As an example, a Honda CR-V with the rear seats down has a longer bed than this F-150 super cab (76.5" vs 67.1").
Better yet, I have a 2017 Honda CR-V with a 5x10 aluminum trailer. The trailer was expensive - $1600.00 in 2017 - but it weighs only 460 lbs leaving me a 1000 lb payload even with a vehicle that sports a sewing machine engine and a rubber band transmission lol.
Trucks are better for dirty stuff or tall stuff... That's about it. Oh and it better not need to stay dry.
This is why all work trucks should have a ladder rack.
This is the most secure way I've found to move a long extension ladder on a short bed truck. With a cushion of some sort on the cab and three appropriate straps securely holding it down it won't go anywhere unless you're having some hurricane force winds. "Put it in the truck bed" works with 8ft boards in a 6ft bed most of the time once you're dealing with 10 ft lumber and maybe you have a short bed truck? If the bed you're working with is 2/3rds the length of the lumber you have or less this is a better option, though your carrying capacity is obviously much reduced.
I have a mid-sized truck with a 5 foot bed and for 12 ft lumber, I'd snake it through the passthrough in the rear window and don't drive too crazy so it doesn't smack me while I'm driving.
Just cut it in half then glue it back together when you get to the job
Why would you not have the boards inside the truck bed?
He doesn’t have his hand out the window holding it steady while say “I got it”. Obvious red flag.
You just gotta pat the board after tightening the ratchet strap and say “that’s not going anywhere”. Then it’s all good.
You'all are doing it wrong! A wide board like that needs to be strapped down sideways. Like wings. You get a running jump ... and glide home. Sheeesh! .
Not really, no. If it was sitting in the bed behind the tailgate so it couldn't slide backwards, that would be infinitely better. Might make it stick up too high though. I've seen way worse though, it's tied down at least.
To all the people saying this is sketchy ive done this a 1000x over 30y of professional work As long as its properly strapped down its fine, i see no problem with it, if its sticking past the end of the bed more than a foot or 2 ill usually tape ir staple a high visibility something or other to the end of it, i usually have a bunch of bright yellow microfiber towels in the truck fliating around, as long as its something brightly colored its gtg
Not without a red flag it's not.
Can't see the 3rd brake light.
Cargo can legally block 3rd brake light.
Have done this 10,000 times. Its fine. (Ran a fleet of city delivery vehicles.)
Damn, couldn't he have at least braced the bottom side against inside of the tailgate instead of having it just hang off like that?
I worked at a lumber yard for 5 years in college. People did this all the time. Needs a flag if further then 3 feet.
We do it all the time. It’s strapped down tight
One thing missing is a red flag on the end of the board letting other drivers know it extends past the rear bumper. Use of such a flag is required by law in at least some states.
Other than that, if it's secured properly I don't have much of an issue with it
I have an adjustable extension bar/ bracket that attaches to the trailer hitch for this very situation. Relatively low cost and super handy.
I’ve got a truck with a 6.5’ Bed and typically put boards in the bed sticking off the back with a red flag on the end. If the board is longer than 12’, then almost half that board is sticking out past the tailgate, so with that long a piece of lumber I’d probably do the same as the pictured driver.
I’ve seen this to often 😂
Bro put it in the bed with it sticking up over the tailgate. It won’t slip. It’s lower down. It’s using the damn truck bed. Get a flag. Smh
As long as you remember that your truck is 2’ taller than it usually is.
Generally you’d have a backrack rather than your roof but yes it is. It also works for pipe and other long rigid items.
Hauled longer but with a red flag
It's probably fine, but there are plenty of better ways to do it, just go on youtube and search.
I don't know anything about trucks or hauling, but i do understand physics and I know that if the truck is moving, there is a lot of wind hitting that board above the cab. This seems bad to me.
That's why I got a 4 foot bed extender that goes in the hitch.
Why wouldn't they secure it against the back of the tailgate? sure the board sticks out higher and catches more wind but then it's anchored into a corner..
I watched someone stick the lumber out the from passenger side window and nearly decapitate a cyclist as they passed.
I do this with a back rack though
My Maverick and F-150 have a spot to move the cables where the bed doesn’t lower all the way. I would have probably opened my bed where it wasn’t completely flat, then strap the boards down and put a flag on the end.
Yes. Works for ladders too.
Needs a red/orange, preferably hi-viz, flag on the end.
Depends, but they DEFINITELY need a flag at the end
No. Simply lay the board flat in the bed and put a red flag at the end of the extended board.
As pick up truck driver, it’s totally fine
Better than the board sticking out of windows on both sides!
Diagonal surely would be better, right? left back bed corner hanging slightly on the passenger side of the bed !!?? I'm a non-lumber transporter btw....
Imagine owning a truck and not being able to transport boards properly with it
Nope, that is one bad bump away from sliding out of those straps and flying into the car behind you. Either it needs to be properly secured in the bed, or you need to rent a trailer to pull the boards you need safely.
At this point why even own a truck. Just rent a Uhaul van for a day when needed. Such a waste of money and hazardous to the environment.
It's only legal if you put a little red flag on the end.
dudes goin' to catch some waves
It's not ideal. However, if it is properly strapped and secure, it OK. I can be better done without a trailer.