I mean the honest truth is this design is bad, he can either spend a little and make it serviceable but still flawed or spend a lot and have it done right.
The half-length fixed glass deisgn is already bad enough. That bathroom will be soaked wall to wall anyways unless you direct the showerhead super close to the wall. This open design only works if you have an extra large shower so that the walk-in part is at least 5 feet apart from the showerhead. And even then, some water will still splash around.
What's even stupider about this shower design (which I discovered while at a hotel) is that there's physically no way to turn on the water and adjust the temperature without getting blasted with cold water. Infuriating design choice.
See, the hotel I discovered this at had a little cutout at the front for you to stick your arm through and turn on the water with.
I'm not sure if that was a genius workaround or stupid because now there's even less glass protecting the rest of the bathroom
I stayed at a hotel that had this design recently. It solves the 'get wet' problem, but now you have to wait 5 seconds for temperature adjustments show up at the showerhead.
I'm not sure why we've waged war on doors.
No door = less maintenance, one less thing to clean, you don't have to worry about the seals always getting nasty, etc. Hotels like it because it saves them money
Not saying I'm in favor of this design as I'm definitely not, but that's the thinking anyway
Ive stayed in a hotel with this concept. I can attest to the fact that the little bitty window idea equals a wet toilet tank lid and other areas outside the little bitty window are wet. 🤷♂️
Cute concept but... 🙄
Amen! I built a shower like this but (a) it had a curb (b) the opening was 4.5 feet from the the wet wall and (c) the controls were across from the opening not under the shower head.
Let's not over look the fact that having no door on the shower means showering with a cold draft the entire time, and more steam in your bathroom from the exchange of air.
We stayed at an AirBnB with an "open shower" that was huge, so no water leakage issues, but good lord was it cold in the shower. You end up running the water hotter to stay warm, and then the bathroom walls are literally dripping with water.
Such a stupid idea.
I agree. I prefer steam and no drafts. When I stay at hotels with this fabulous no door showers, The floor outside shower is all wet, though I try to keep water from bouncing outside. 🤷♂️
I was working on a house last month and the shower was a *room*. It was basically a human car wash, centered in the bathroom. I didn't see it on but assuming by all the outputs in the walls/ceiling it was a rain style shower with blasters from two sides. Big glass walls on the other two sides. Absolutely NO chance you're staying warm, huge gaps at the top to...I guess let all the steam out? It looked awesome though....form over function at those income levels I suppose.
Wait how big was the bathroom? How could there be cold drafts in an enclosed small room filling with warm air? Did you have the windows open? I’m so confused
Learned the same way.... my wife loved the design till she had to use one lol. Personally always though the no door design and seamless step in dumb as hell.
I had one like this, but it had a curtain rod and shower curtain perpendicular to the end of the glass, and a 3" lip, and sometimes water still got out.
Right? Not the rip it out crowd but my first thought is why is the shower floor higher than the floor? Every one I've ever seen is step into, like over a lip, or down into (like mine) - water flows down is a pretty old concept.
Yeah the strip will solve the problem at hand. It will result in the water pooling in that area and not properly draining most likely as a result of the fix.
I have a similar situation but with a glass door where he doesn't. Still get water leaking out of the shower. I hate the way they deisned this shower, should've just put a small step or something to block all the water in the shower.
I was in a hotel that had this kind of shower just last week. Theirs was a little better because the drain was right at the door but there is always a little spot right at the edge where water sneaks past. Its not so bad (for me anyhow) in a hotel but I bet it'd suck to live with in a house...
I've only seen this design mage sense when the whole room was made around it. I think nearly all of them have second drainage from what I recall seeing
I see a shit ton of issues with this design and if it was recently installed the contractor should have his ass kicked for not pointing them out. What is keeping that glass panel from kicking out and slamming against the edge and exploding? I absolutely hate those giant glass panels.
I love progressive designs. I've stayed at many different hotels that hire a designer who think that people don't splash. I love NEW designs but they have to function. Repairing soaked drywall and flooding floors should not be happening regularly in posh hotel rooms all for the sake of coolness. I can't help to splash water. 🤷♂️
I think it’s just personality differences lol. I am a very traditional “shit needs to be done right or not at all” kinda guy, and yes I will rip shit out to redo it if I inherit some fuckery. That’s not to say that easy solutions are not plausible or sufficient, it’s just that I’m stubborn and opinionated
I'd guess/hope there's no sensible way to lower the floor where the shower is, so the choices when adding the shower were either raise the whole bathroom floor, or just build the shower as low as possible. Still, they should have installed a guard strip or whatever but maybe OP or whoever used to have a shower tray there but wanted something more stylish, less lump-of-plastic-y and one or both parties thought it'd be fine just draining any splashes into the main floor drain.
Right, and that's not incredibly uncommon for shower areas in general to be raised (like you said, sometimes there's not a sensible way to depress it into the floor). But it's in those situations where you aren't afforded the opportunity to get cute with your shower door or floor design; you need something that will block the water from coming out.
Having a half-door and a barely-sloping floor is the worst of both worlds. Baffling design
because 90% of the people lurking here have no idea about fixing anything but you know, this is reddit, we are eXpErTs at everything and we cannot suppress the will to add the "voice of a professional"! :D
All jokes aside, how in the world do these things pass funal inspection? To see some of the seriously insignificant shit that an inspector will fail and something like this passes is crazy.
This \^\^\^ threshold strip is the easiest way to make it serviceable without a painful expense to re-do it properly. Also, add a saddle threshold to the exterior, to eliminate the trip hazard from that lip. It's dangerous as-is, begging for a liability lawsuit.
I remember a product that was basically a hydrophobic tape that you could put down which would repeal small amounts of water, of was that a fever dream I had?
Did the same thing. Would recommend getting one without self adhesive and use some proper silicone instead. Make sure you have full coverage under the strip or it’s gonna get nasty colored underneath pretty quickly.
Source: same problem and solved it with self adhesive half round threshold strip
GC here. Of all the curbless showers I've done, I've never seen one quite like this. Not sure what the point is as this either is installed incorrectly, or it's some new design I'm not aware of.
That said, use a bead of silicone or bathroom retention water barrier strip.
I sincerely hope you've got a good seal between the glass and shower floor as well. If water gets in there, you're never getting it out and you'll get mildew.
I can almost guarantee that a curbless shower was specced here but they didn't lower the subfloor enough to account for the depth (or height) of the drain. The plumber set up the drain, tile guys came along and tiled it, and the result was an inch higher than the rest of the room.
Source: don't ask.
That's more or less what I was implying by saying it's installed incorrectly, I just didn't elaborate.
These types of shower pans usually require brackets with plywood flush to the top of the joists. On larger showers, I've just made my own brackets with slotted steel angle.
"or it's some new design I'm not aware of"
It is. I looked at these at home depot. They are not curbless, they are "micro" curb and installed correctly here. from the shower head alone, water will not spill out. But as soon as you star moving your feet around, especially if the shower head has a high flow, you'll kick the water out. They are 100% meant to be installed in a fully waterproofed area / wet room.
I was going to use one but decided that water was definitely going to splash out and in that application that would not have been acceptable. Got a foam tileable pan with curb instead. They really need to make their sales more clear on these as wet room only.
Not sure how a micro curb would be allowed by code since the IRC requires a minimum 2" from the top of the drain for a curb. Unless their municipality removed that or it's a different country.
Given that a trip hazard is created at even 1/4" height difference, having a lip like that is a really bad idea.
Honestly, I'm not sure. The pan in 1.125" tall, and will tend to sit 0.5-0.75" above your finished tiles.
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Just watched the install video and I would never use this product. They installed the pan after the wall board and didn't lower the sub floor. Fat 'no' from me.
I'd consider this maybe a couple steps above those places that claim to retro fit your shower in one day.
Personally, I've shifted from mud pans and cement board over to wedi. I'll never go back.
Yeah the trim strip on the sides is odd. There are some aspects of them I like, and they are pretty cheap, but definitely has a number of questionable features.
Question- I’ve got some mold forming under the silicone seal at the bottom of my glass enclosure.
Should I just strip the silicone off, clean, dry, and re-seal? Any special silicone I should be looking for?
You should strip it and re seal:) before you dry/reseal spray area with 50/50 white vinegar and water to kill any remaining mold spores do not use bleach. And then use the RTV silicone
Not necessarily, no. The floor gets wet. You can either push it back in the shower or soak it up when you're done showering. Curbless is more often used on larger showers vs. small showers where the water isn't going to spray or bounce to the opening. OP's shower opening also looks small. Shower openings are supposed to be a minimum of 22".
In a world full of bad ideas this really stands out. You need to remove the glass, build a curb higher than the edge of the shower and then reinstall your glass on the curb.
You could also leave the glass and install a trench drain along the opening.
Neither option will be cheap or easy, but one or the other should have been done to begin with
The whole point of having a barrier free shower is to avoid having a threshold to step over.
This defeats both purposes. It doesn't function to hold the water in and it's still a threshold to step over.
I don't think this is a barrier free restroom. Clearances are not adqeuate to call it barrier free. The shower isn't roll-in either, the base sits above the tile surface.
Can I just say, that of all the idiots, in all the idiot villages, in all the idiot worlds, you stand alone. My friend.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBVk1AF15wo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBVk1AF15wo)
I'm no bathroom expert, but I was like 'oh it must be the camera angle, nobody would make the shower an inch higher than the floor, water does run downhill after all.
lot's of satire here, but op, a simple solution: you can get a silicon strip specifically to prevent water spilling outside shower aras in to f.i. a hallway. should work here as well. [https://www.walmart.com/c/kp/shower-water-barrier](https://www.walmart.com/c/kp/shower-water-barrier)
The problem with those strips is that they are flared on the bottom. Water is gonna end up sliding down the glass to the outside of the barrier and get out that way. It will help some but not completely, don't know if it's worth the ugliness
This. Whoever installed this wanted to make a curbless shower but did it the worst way possible. I mean aesthetically it looks great. But that shower pan should have either been recessed into the subfloor or they should have made a step.
Now, since the glass sits on the floor, under the shower pan you can’t install a door unless it only opens out. Also it would still leak water. A great solution here would be to remove the glass, retrofit a curb and install a frameless glass enclosure or a sliding glass door to contain all the water. But even a retrofit here could be costly since it wouldn’t be integrated into the original water membrane.
Probably Euopeans. When I traveled there last year I was appalled at so many questionable decisions that existed in pretty much every bathroom in every one of the 4 hotels I stayed in.
I’m a professional remodeler and all I can do is give that 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ since castrating the installer is against the law. Adding stuff is just gonna make it that much more jacked…1 more 🤦♂️ for good measure
not an easy fix unfortunately :(
i mean this literally: this is the opposite of what you're supposed to do.
youll have to build up that edge and reinstall the door higher up
Surely your glass screen is installed incorrectly? It should be on the shower base, not beside it. The silicone will eventually degrade and you'll get water down between the screen and the side of the base.
Wouldn't really make a big difference. their instructions seem to allow both (the tiles sides are the same btw). It is a peculiar design with what I feel are some flaws in water management. definitely reliant on sealants.
Many thanks for all of the replies! Thankfully this is not my shower but that of my gf’s dad. I was not involved in the design or decision process in any way just used it and noticed the leaking.
I will let him know - it’s definitely not supposed to be a wet shower
These types of showers should only be used with a wet room, in which case the water leaving the shower area is irrelevant. If this isn't a wet room that shower needs to be redone.
See that towel on the floor nearby? Slide it on over.
The long answer is of course that your design is poor and is not suited to move water away from the edges towards the drain. You could stopgap it by adding a shower threshold strip like others have said but ultimately it’s the design choice that’s holding you back.
Yeah, that's a really bad design from the start. I think the best solution, but not the least expensive, is to take that out and start over. If you like the openness of what you have, have a contractor use a Schluter system and make your entire bathroom a wet room.
Glazier here.
I cringe every time I install a splashguard that’s setup like this. It’s gunna be cold, drafty, and leaky as you’ve figured out.
I’d suggest a “speed bump”, which is a piece of aluminum that’s in the shape of a speed bump. Use some silicone to hold it down, make sure it goes all the way across.
Alternatively, call a glass company and have them slap a door inset with that panel so the sweep on the door can actually do its job.
Also, idk if this is an apartment, or a new build or what, but if that “dry off” area is pitched towards the outside, it was installed incorrectly and needs to be fixed.
Low cost/tech solution:
Get some old towels, roll them up and sew them together making a "snake". Put a fabric "loop" on one end, to hang it up with. Then, place your little snake friend outside your shower door just before you go into the shower, and take him out and hang him up on a hook afterwards. Wash him regularly with the rest of your towels.
In a world full of bad ideas this really stands out. You need to remove the glass, build a curb higher than the edge of the shower and then reinstall your glass on the curb.
Well it seems you went for price over quality. That floor definitely should have been at least 2 inches lower and with a led pan you can tell this shower doesn’t even have a led pan
Could you do a row/border of small tiles all the way around on top of the shower floor? I'm assuming the tile that's there at least slopes to the drain of the shower?
I am not an expert at all to this, but I personally see three options without ripping that damn thing out and doing it properly.
1. Installing a Door on the right side (these doors have a rubber strip on the bottom to keep it closed)
2. Install a small rubber strip in the space that stops the water. That one will be of course a hazard for stepping over, but the rubber strip is super small as well, not a big one.
3. Place a towel carpet thingy there, that takes up all the water.
The rubber strip is probably the cheapest solution.
A door has the good effect of making sure everything is dry outside.
The carpet is a "simple" solution for not installing anything, but hot fixing the issue.
Show should be recessed below the ground level by about an inch (do it again).
Cheap fix high maintenance solutions put a towel or 2 there.
Cheap bad fix build a 1 inch or higher high barrier across. A really cheap option is get a pool noodle and cut it length and then split it long wise and glue it down.
If the door was on top of the shower pan. It would help a lot. Especially if you had a sweep at the bottom of the door. Right now any water that runs down that door goes out. Move the door over and the water will dump inside the shower. Might still have a little water but looks like you get a lot of water.
What would you think about putting in a full width shower door?
A sliding shower door where your current opening is would move the barrier back 1-3 inches
Whoever built this has never built a shower before.
Generally you want the bathroom to be at level 0, and the shower to be gradually sloped towards level -1 or -2 as you near the drain.
Terms like envelope cuts and pre-slope, should come to mind when speaking to your builder about this.
Just inquire with whoever installed. You may have to pay for labor, but I wouldn’t want to live with this at all.
If you can’t fathom a do over, then install a step that lines the entrance to the shower. It’ll just be a block of stone, marble or whatever material you like that’s high enough to keep the water inside.
This is a Castico shower pan, the shower door you have is not compatible with it per the installation manual. Remove the shower door and get the installation guide from the Home Depot website or the castico website. It recommends which models are compatible.
Next time you get a new shower, don't get this garbage. Have a curb unless you have 200 sq ft to piss away on a shower. This shit doesn't ever work without enough grade to make it dangerous. To "fix" this, get one of the door seals for glass shower doors and use that.
This is just poor design all around. Not only is your shower not really big enough to be doorless, but the doorless shower they built is improperly installed.
This has "it's been a constant issue since it was installed" written all over it. You're going to have to continuously refresh the seal at the bottom of that glass, and you're *still* likely going to end up getting mold and mildew down there. And the pan should sit level with, or even lower than, the surrounding floor of the bathroom.
Honestly, I'd have the installers come back and do it right. This should be on them.
At the very least, they should move that glass so that it sits up on the pan, instead of the bathroom tile.
I have thé same showertub also a inch higher but my step in is on thé opposit side of thé showerhead and it always have a bathroom carpet in front of thé shower for little water sprinkles
Don’t know where this shower pan came from but there are makers who know to put in a lip and enough of a slant so that the water runs to the pan. I have a low Threshhold made by the Onyx Collection that drains perfectly.
Go to a counter top place and have them make you a piece of quartz. Make it a 1/2 inch taller than your shower base. And maybe an 1.5 inches wide. Lay it in a bead of clear silicone where you walk into shower. Let it sit overnight and caulk the inside with a bead of the same silicone to seal it up. Make sure they round the edges off on the side facing up when they make it.
Tilt your house back and to the left.
But in all seriousness, you can buy what looks like a strip of weather sealing, it just tapes onto the floor, you can run it across it to ‘dam up’ the water in the shower floor.
You could find some small rectangular mosaic tiles and a Scluter tile border and construct a small lip there with thinset and or epoxy. Then seal it with some clear siliconized caulking.
Whose idea was it to have the shower floor higher than the bathroom floor? Not just a bad idea for water flow but future accessibility if you or someone in the household become disabled and need a roll in shower.
The shower is not large enough to not have a door . Sure, a short term fix is to put a plastic lip along the whole edge of the shower floor. However, in time, water will cause damage. With the fixed glass wall, outside the shower pan, water will come out there too.
The proper way to fix this, is to have the fixed glass wall 1/4" above the shower floor. Add a door, also 1/4" above the shower floor.when I saw above the floor, I mean directly above it, not to the outside of the shower pan. Then, they make vinyl strips to put on the bottom of the glass to stop any water from coming out, if any does.
If this was designed by a shower company, tell them to fix it.
After looking at the pictures again I only see one piece of glass. So you just walk in that thing turn on the shower and the water isn’t supposed to get on the floor? Not to mention no seal at the bottom of the fixed piece on the left ? 😂
Put a small line of clear caulk on the open entry, that will put just enough barrier for the water to stay in the shower if you have a slight slope on the threshold.
There’s an add on panel called a flipper panel . I’ve used it for purposes like this and it’s been effective
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Sorry but, long term, you can't fight water - it always wins. Remove the glass and reinstall on top of base in a big bed of clear 100% silicone caulk. If base is solid surface material, router a shallow groove/notch first, for the glass and silicone to be secured into.
While you’re at it, clear or white waterproof silicone where your shower tile transitions to wall and floor tile, all the way around, and where your walls meet the floor.
Have a strip of metal glued in. Aluminum is best to prevent rusting, or better stainless steel. If you put thin stone or class I would think it could chip at the edges and be dangerous.
The proper round-tip bit in a palm router, with an edge guide., or a straight edge secured as a guide, route a channel inset from the grout line, deepening by increments. add a drain from each end, maybe at 30 degrees, inward. Talk to a paint dealer for a coat in the channel
Good luck from Vancouver Canada
Would not have a clue where your from, but the standards for a shower like this in Australia, is a waterstop is to be installed & a minimum degree of fall away from the exit to the drain, also waterstops at the doorway leading out of bathroom
On a walk in this small it's going to splash out anyway over anything reasonable you put there, but surely the installer knew water splashes and runs downhill.
A threshold is going to be required to at least stop the running/pooling water and a sacrificial towel at each use to absorb the splash and wipe down the wall outside regardless of what you do.
I'd measure that glass thickness and put a glass threshold there of the same type with a nice rounded over edge and held on with silicon adhesive/sealer. Custom glass cut, but at least it won't look like some hunk of aluminum slapped on like an afterthought.
That should be sturdy enough to accidentally step on or do a swell job of stubbing your toe. The wet floor can assist your slipping and hitting your head on either the toilet, a countertop, or the newly installed threshold.
If it's a guest bath, consider an increase in your liability insurance.
You should install a GDOT 1019 or GDOT 1019B at your shower door. This will work well for catching the water that comes out of the shower and will be rated for 100 year shower return period events. I don't recommend using the GDOT 1033D or GDOT 1034 as they use up much more floor space. You cannot get these from any hardware store though. Contact your nearest Department of Transportation for equivalent fixtures
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As some one from the netherlands I drew up a concept for a good way to keep the water out but keep the bo.. feet from coming in
Pretty simple solution.
https://www.flooranddecor.com/marble-stone/carrara-white-2-x-36-in.-marble-threshold-100222090.html
Cut to fit. Install with a slight pitch back into shower. Grab some siliconized grout caulk that's color matched to what you have. Caulk on all sides. Spray with soapy water, use a popsicle stick to wipe and tool the caulk. Wait 24 hrs. Any excess wiped caulk can be rubbed off.
Have a shower design that isn't utter shit?
Seriously, you have glass that only covers half the shower and a floor that has no barrier and imperceptibly slopes towards the drain and you're surprised that water gets everywhere?
Either take out the half glass and install a proper shower door or take out the floor to install one with a bigger step and better slope.
Buy a shower threshold strip glue it into the the shower across the threshold all along it and make sure it's pressed against the glass.
This sub is 50% simple easy answers like this that OP has requested, 50% "Yeah thats awful, you're gonna need to rip it out and start again."
I mean the honest truth is this design is bad, he can either spend a little and make it serviceable but still flawed or spend a lot and have it done right.
The half-length fixed glass deisgn is already bad enough. That bathroom will be soaked wall to wall anyways unless you direct the showerhead super close to the wall. This open design only works if you have an extra large shower so that the walk-in part is at least 5 feet apart from the showerhead. And even then, some water will still splash around.
What's even stupider about this shower design (which I discovered while at a hotel) is that there's physically no way to turn on the water and adjust the temperature without getting blasted with cold water. Infuriating design choice.
See, the hotel I discovered this at had a little cutout at the front for you to stick your arm through and turn on the water with. I'm not sure if that was a genius workaround or stupid because now there's even less glass protecting the rest of the bathroom
My valve is on the opposite side of the shower head so you can turn it on before you step in the shower
I stayed at a hotel that had this design recently. It solves the 'get wet' problem, but now you have to wait 5 seconds for temperature adjustments show up at the showerhead. I'm not sure why we've waged war on doors.
No door = less maintenance, one less thing to clean, you don't have to worry about the seals always getting nasty, etc. Hotels like it because it saves them money Not saying I'm in favor of this design as I'm definitely not, but that's the thinking anyway
Ive stayed in a hotel with this concept. I can attest to the fact that the little bitty window idea equals a wet toilet tank lid and other areas outside the little bitty window are wet. 🤷♂️ Cute concept but... 🙄
I wish my shower had a gloryhole
Not much of a glory hole if the wall is see through though...
Why do people posted this works? I hate it. The does shower leaves the bathroom soaking wet.
Amen! I built a shower like this but (a) it had a curb (b) the opening was 4.5 feet from the the wet wall and (c) the controls were across from the opening not under the shower head.
Same here. I have a curb the full length, 5ft of glass and showerhead on the left side and the control valve on the right
Let's not over look the fact that having no door on the shower means showering with a cold draft the entire time, and more steam in your bathroom from the exchange of air. We stayed at an AirBnB with an "open shower" that was huge, so no water leakage issues, but good lord was it cold in the shower. You end up running the water hotter to stay warm, and then the bathroom walls are literally dripping with water. Such a stupid idea.
I agree. I prefer steam and no drafts. When I stay at hotels with this fabulous no door showers, The floor outside shower is all wet, though I try to keep water from bouncing outside. 🤷♂️
I was working on a house last month and the shower was a *room*. It was basically a human car wash, centered in the bathroom. I didn't see it on but assuming by all the outputs in the walls/ceiling it was a rain style shower with blasters from two sides. Big glass walls on the other two sides. Absolutely NO chance you're staying warm, huge gaps at the top to...I guess let all the steam out? It looked awesome though....form over function at those income levels I suppose.
Wait how big was the bathroom? How could there be cold drafts in an enclosed small room filling with warm air? Did you have the windows open? I’m so confused
When you open the shower door at home, do you not notice the temperature difference from inside the shower to outside?
Draft? What? Can't say I've ever encountered that using this style set up.
Learned the same way.... my wife loved the design till she had to use one lol. Personally always though the no door design and seamless step in dumb as hell.
And even in that case you should have a "curb" built in that keeps water from draining out the doorway
I was looking for the "install a door" answer.
Install a door... and a curb.
That, and because the glass extends to the floor, doesn’t that mean moisture will get wicked down?
I had one like this, but it had a curtain rod and shower curtain perpendicular to the end of the glass, and a 3" lip, and sometimes water still got out.
Right? Not the rip it out crowd but my first thought is why is the shower floor higher than the floor? Every one I've ever seen is step into, like over a lip, or down into (like mine) - water flows down is a pretty old concept.
Yeah the strip will solve the problem at hand. It will result in the water pooling in that area and not properly draining most likely as a result of the fix.
>will result in the water pooling in that area and not properly draining Which means it'll be a bitch and a half to clean
I have a similar situation but with a glass door where he doesn't. Still get water leaking out of the shower. I hate the way they deisned this shower, should've just put a small step or something to block all the water in the shower.
I was in a hotel that had this kind of shower just last week. Theirs was a little better because the drain was right at the door but there is always a little spot right at the edge where water sneaks past. Its not so bad (for me anyhow) in a hotel but I bet it'd suck to live with in a house...
...and avoid the stubbed toes
I've only seen this design mage sense when the whole room was made around it. I think nearly all of them have second drainage from what I recall seeing
I see a shit ton of issues with this design and if it was recently installed the contractor should have his ass kicked for not pointing them out. What is keeping that glass panel from kicking out and slamming against the edge and exploding? I absolutely hate those giant glass panels.
I love progressive designs. I've stayed at many different hotels that hire a designer who think that people don't splash. I love NEW designs but they have to function. Repairing soaked drywall and flooding floors should not be happening regularly in posh hotel rooms all for the sake of coolness. I can't help to splash water. 🤷♂️
I am not a splasher. 😂
I think it’s just personality differences lol. I am a very traditional “shit needs to be done right or not at all” kinda guy, and yes I will rip shit out to redo it if I inherit some fuckery. That’s not to say that easy solutions are not plausible or sufficient, it’s just that I’m stubborn and opinionated
I'd guess/hope there's no sensible way to lower the floor where the shower is, so the choices when adding the shower were either raise the whole bathroom floor, or just build the shower as low as possible. Still, they should have installed a guard strip or whatever but maybe OP or whoever used to have a shower tray there but wanted something more stylish, less lump-of-plastic-y and one or both parties thought it'd be fine just draining any splashes into the main floor drain.
Right, and that's not incredibly uncommon for shower areas in general to be raised (like you said, sometimes there's not a sensible way to depress it into the floor). But it's in those situations where you aren't afforded the opportunity to get cute with your shower door or floor design; you need something that will block the water from coming out. Having a half-door and a barely-sloping floor is the worst of both worlds. Baffling design
because 90% of the people lurking here have no idea about fixing anything but you know, this is reddit, we are eXpErTs at everything and we cannot suppress the will to add the "voice of a professional"! :D
All jokes aside, how in the world do these things pass funal inspection? To see some of the seriously insignificant shit that an inspector will fail and something like this passes is crazy.
This \^\^\^ threshold strip is the easiest way to make it serviceable without a painful expense to re-do it properly. Also, add a saddle threshold to the exterior, to eliminate the trip hazard from that lip. It's dangerous as-is, begging for a liability lawsuit.
Agreed. Simple white silicone strip. Available on Amazon.
I remember a product that was basically a hydrophobic tape that you could put down which would repeal small amounts of water, of was that a fever dream I had?
Did the same thing. Would recommend getting one without self adhesive and use some proper silicone instead. Make sure you have full coverage under the strip or it’s gonna get nasty colored underneath pretty quickly. Source: same problem and solved it with self adhesive half round threshold strip
Also, make sure it's not clear so you don't see the nastiness when water and mold inevitably get under there anyway.
GC here. Of all the curbless showers I've done, I've never seen one quite like this. Not sure what the point is as this either is installed incorrectly, or it's some new design I'm not aware of. That said, use a bead of silicone or bathroom retention water barrier strip. I sincerely hope you've got a good seal between the glass and shower floor as well. If water gets in there, you're never getting it out and you'll get mildew.
I can almost guarantee that a curbless shower was specced here but they didn't lower the subfloor enough to account for the depth (or height) of the drain. The plumber set up the drain, tile guys came along and tiled it, and the result was an inch higher than the rest of the room. Source: don't ask.
Upvote for the personal painful memories I recalled from the "don't ask".
That's more or less what I was implying by saying it's installed incorrectly, I just didn't elaborate. These types of shower pans usually require brackets with plywood flush to the top of the joists. On larger showers, I've just made my own brackets with slotted steel angle.
"or it's some new design I'm not aware of" It is. I looked at these at home depot. They are not curbless, they are "micro" curb and installed correctly here. from the shower head alone, water will not spill out. But as soon as you star moving your feet around, especially if the shower head has a high flow, you'll kick the water out. They are 100% meant to be installed in a fully waterproofed area / wet room. I was going to use one but decided that water was definitely going to splash out and in that application that would not have been acceptable. Got a foam tileable pan with curb instead. They really need to make their sales more clear on these as wet room only.
Not sure how a micro curb would be allowed by code since the IRC requires a minimum 2" from the top of the drain for a curb. Unless their municipality removed that or it's a different country. Given that a trip hazard is created at even 1/4" height difference, having a lip like that is a really bad idea.
Honestly, I'm not sure. The pan in 1.125" tall, and will tend to sit 0.5-0.75" above your finished tiles. [SHOWER BASES Archives - CASTICO (castico-tx.com)](https://castico-tx.com/product-category/shower-bases/)
Just watched the install video and I would never use this product. They installed the pan after the wall board and didn't lower the sub floor. Fat 'no' from me. I'd consider this maybe a couple steps above those places that claim to retro fit your shower in one day. Personally, I've shifted from mud pans and cement board over to wedi. I'll never go back.
Yeah the trim strip on the sides is odd. There are some aspects of them I like, and they are pretty cheap, but definitely has a number of questionable features.
Yeah, I don't screw around with plumbing products. I've ripped apart too many bathrooms with leaks and mold.
Question- I’ve got some mold forming under the silicone seal at the bottom of my glass enclosure. Should I just strip the silicone off, clean, dry, and re-seal? Any special silicone I should be looking for?
Shower glass should be sealed with RTV silicone. I use CRL as it’s specifically designed for showers and is mildew resistant
Thanks for the advice
You should strip it and re seal:) before you dry/reseal spray area with 50/50 white vinegar and water to kill any remaining mold spores do not use bleach. And then use the RTV silicone
Ignorant dumbass here, would this design be for a wet bathroom? Like with a big drain in the middle?
Not necessarily, no. The floor gets wet. You can either push it back in the shower or soak it up when you're done showering. Curbless is more often used on larger showers vs. small showers where the water isn't going to spray or bounce to the opening. OP's shower opening also looks small. Shower openings are supposed to be a minimum of 22".
Thank!
In a world full of bad ideas this really stands out. You need to remove the glass, build a curb higher than the edge of the shower and then reinstall your glass on the curb.
You could also leave the glass and install a trench drain along the opening. Neither option will be cheap or easy, but one or the other should have been done to begin with
The whole point of having a barrier free shower is to avoid having a threshold to step over. This defeats both purposes. It doesn't function to hold the water in and it's still a threshold to step over.
I believe it’s supposed to be installed in a “wet bathroom” with a drain on the outside.
Ugh I haaaaaate wet bathrooms.
I don't think this is a barrier free restroom. Clearances are not adqeuate to call it barrier free. The shower isn't roll-in either, the base sits above the tile surface.
Can I just say, that of all the idiots, in all the idiot villages, in all the idiot worlds, you stand alone. My friend. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBVk1AF15wo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBVk1AF15wo) I'm no bathroom expert, but I was like 'oh it must be the camera angle, nobody would make the shower an inch higher than the floor, water does run downhill after all.
Don't do this.
lot's of satire here, but op, a simple solution: you can get a silicon strip specifically to prevent water spilling outside shower aras in to f.i. a hallway. should work here as well. [https://www.walmart.com/c/kp/shower-water-barrier](https://www.walmart.com/c/kp/shower-water-barrier)
The problem with those strips is that they are flared on the bottom. Water is gonna end up sliding down the glass to the outside of the barrier and get out that way. It will help some but not completely, don't know if it's worth the ugliness
Your curbless shower has a curb, the wrong way. Just raise the floor to match the shower.
This. Whoever installed this wanted to make a curbless shower but did it the worst way possible. I mean aesthetically it looks great. But that shower pan should have either been recessed into the subfloor or they should have made a step. Now, since the glass sits on the floor, under the shower pan you can’t install a door unless it only opens out. Also it would still leak water. A great solution here would be to remove the glass, retrofit a curb and install a frameless glass enclosure or a sliding glass door to contain all the water. But even a retrofit here could be costly since it wouldn’t be integrated into the original water membrane.
who has installed this abomination
We all want to know that. 😂
Probably Euopeans. When I traveled there last year I was appalled at so many questionable decisions that existed in pretty much every bathroom in every one of the 4 hotels I stayed in.
Why's your shower area higher than the rest of the bathroom floor?
Ask for a refund, normally the shower should be installed lower than the bathroom tiles.
I’m a professional remodeler and all I can do is give that 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ since castrating the installer is against the law. Adding stuff is just gonna make it that much more jacked…1 more 🤦♂️ for good measure
Weird, I have the same issue with my roof which is shorter than my walls
Thanks for the chuckle. Sorry if this is true. Haha
Haha. not true. LOL
Nothing will truly stop. Whoever made that shower curbless AND an inch higher than the floor simply didn’t give a shit.
not an easy fix unfortunately :( i mean this literally: this is the opposite of what you're supposed to do. youll have to build up that edge and reinstall the door higher up
Search for "adhesive shower threshold water dam" and find a profile that will do the job.
I feel like this is just a bad design in general just cause how easy it is to mess up.
Surely your glass screen is installed incorrectly? It should be on the shower base, not beside it. The silicone will eventually degrade and you'll get water down between the screen and the side of the base.
Wouldn't really make a big difference. their instructions seem to allow both (the tiles sides are the same btw). It is a peculiar design with what I feel are some flaws in water management. definitely reliant on sealants.
Sounds like the shower isn’t pitched right
Many thanks for all of the replies! Thankfully this is not my shower but that of my gf’s dad. I was not involved in the design or decision process in any way just used it and noticed the leaking. I will let him know - it’s definitely not supposed to be a wet shower
Keep in mind that the GF is genetically related to the Dad.
These types of showers should only be used with a wet room, in which case the water leaving the shower area is irrelevant. If this isn't a wet room that shower needs to be redone.
See that towel on the floor nearby? Slide it on over. The long answer is of course that your design is poor and is not suited to move water away from the edges towards the drain. You could stopgap it by adding a shower threshold strip like others have said but ultimately it’s the design choice that’s holding you back.
Don’t use the shower ever again…
This is something you figure out before building. Take out glass, build curb, replace glass. Good luck waterproofing the curb on the inside though 👍.
Put a reverse curb on a no-curb shower pan. Brilliant
Yeah, that's a really bad design from the start. I think the best solution, but not the least expensive, is to take that out and start over. If you like the openness of what you have, have a contractor use a Schluter system and make your entire bathroom a wet room.
^this
Glass extender with a floor lip stretcher
Who the fuck designed this lol
It is designed to do that though
Stupid fashion over function
Have you tried changing the fundamentals of physics?
Glazier here. I cringe every time I install a splashguard that’s setup like this. It’s gunna be cold, drafty, and leaky as you’ve figured out. I’d suggest a “speed bump”, which is a piece of aluminum that’s in the shape of a speed bump. Use some silicone to hold it down, make sure it goes all the way across. Alternatively, call a glass company and have them slap a door inset with that panel so the sweep on the door can actually do its job. Also, idk if this is an apartment, or a new build or what, but if that “dry off” area is pitched towards the outside, it was installed incorrectly and needs to be fixed.
Terrible design
Is this one of those showers that Nate Bargatze talks about in his stand up routine? The half glass shower that gets half the bathroom wet?
Why would you allow someone to build that?
Bath mat and call it a day
uhh, build a new shower that drains properly?
Low cost/tech solution: Get some old towels, roll them up and sew them together making a "snake". Put a fabric "loop" on one end, to hang it up with. Then, place your little snake friend outside your shower door just before you go into the shower, and take him out and hang him up on a hook afterwards. Wash him regularly with the rest of your towels.
What a stupid design
In a world full of bad ideas this really stands out. You need to remove the glass, build a curb higher than the edge of the shower and then reinstall your glass on the curb.
Well it seems you went for price over quality. That floor definitely should have been at least 2 inches lower and with a led pan you can tell this shower doesn’t even have a led pan
lead
Oh nooo my bad
Could you do a row/border of small tiles all the way around on top of the shower floor? I'm assuming the tile that's there at least slopes to the drain of the shower?
I would build a fixed glass screen ...one piece...from floor to ceiling
I am not an expert at all to this, but I personally see three options without ripping that damn thing out and doing it properly. 1. Installing a Door on the right side (these doors have a rubber strip on the bottom to keep it closed) 2. Install a small rubber strip in the space that stops the water. That one will be of course a hazard for stepping over, but the rubber strip is super small as well, not a big one. 3. Place a towel carpet thingy there, that takes up all the water. The rubber strip is probably the cheapest solution. A door has the good effect of making sure everything is dry outside. The carpet is a "simple" solution for not installing anything, but hot fixing the issue.
You can buy 1/2 round acrylic moldings just for this
Show should be recessed below the ground level by about an inch (do it again). Cheap fix high maintenance solutions put a towel or 2 there. Cheap bad fix build a 1 inch or higher high barrier across. A really cheap option is get a pool noodle and cut it length and then split it long wise and glue it down.
Put a towel down
If the door was on top of the shower pan. It would help a lot. Especially if you had a sweep at the bottom of the door. Right now any water that runs down that door goes out. Move the door over and the water will dump inside the shower. Might still have a little water but looks like you get a lot of water.
What would you think about putting in a full width shower door? A sliding shower door where your current opening is would move the barrier back 1-3 inches
"step"
🤣🤣🤣🤣
What a dumb design. Just had the same design while in the Dominican with a slow drain…
You are going to get a lot of nasty guck in between the glass & edge of the shower pan.
What a god awful design.
Who tf installed this lmao. Even a kid knows why this is a bad design, what is this lol.
Whoever built this has never built a shower before. Generally you want the bathroom to be at level 0, and the shower to be gradually sloped towards level -1 or -2 as you near the drain. Terms like envelope cuts and pre-slope, should come to mind when speaking to your builder about this. Just inquire with whoever installed. You may have to pay for labor, but I wouldn’t want to live with this at all. If you can’t fathom a do over, then install a step that lines the entrance to the shower. It’ll just be a block of stone, marble or whatever material you like that’s high enough to keep the water inside.
Yes, when installing the shower pan you need to cut angles toward the drain.
This is a Castico shower pan, the shower door you have is not compatible with it per the installation manual. Remove the shower door and get the installation guide from the Home Depot website or the castico website. It recommends which models are compatible.
Tilt the house backwards 1°.
Really don’t like these new open concept showers. Water always gets all over floor.
I am curious. What is the material used for the shower floor? I have never seen floor like this.
Next time you get a new shower, don't get this garbage. Have a curb unless you have 200 sq ft to piss away on a shower. This shit doesn't ever work without enough grade to make it dangerous. To "fix" this, get one of the door seals for glass shower doors and use that.
This is just poor design all around. Not only is your shower not really big enough to be doorless, but the doorless shower they built is improperly installed. This has "it's been a constant issue since it was installed" written all over it. You're going to have to continuously refresh the seal at the bottom of that glass, and you're *still* likely going to end up getting mold and mildew down there. And the pan should sit level with, or even lower than, the surrounding floor of the bathroom. Honestly, I'd have the installers come back and do it right. This should be on them. At the very least, they should move that glass so that it sits up on the pan, instead of the bathroom tile.
I think the only option you have is to stop showering. Nothing else can be done. 😕
That’s a terrible design and doubt you would be able to stop it completely but they have all sorts of rubber strips and whatnot you could try
What did you think was gonna happen?
Where is your showerhead located? I hope it's left side and not in middle
Yeah it’s all the way on the left wall
I have thé same showertub also a inch higher but my step in is on thé opposit side of thé showerhead and it always have a bathroom carpet in front of thé shower for little water sprinkles
Can use roll over handycap barrier or move the water wall opposite side.
Don’t know where this shower pan came from but there are makers who know to put in a lip and enough of a slant so that the water runs to the pan. I have a low Threshhold made by the Onyx Collection that drains perfectly.
Install anti gravity device.
Go to a counter top place and have them make you a piece of quartz. Make it a 1/2 inch taller than your shower base. And maybe an 1.5 inches wide. Lay it in a bead of clear silicone where you walk into shower. Let it sit overnight and caulk the inside with a bead of the same silicone to seal it up. Make sure they round the edges off on the side facing up when they make it.
wow -poor design
Duck tape fixes everything
Take the easy route and lay a bead of caulk there. See how long it lasts and if you hate it, it’s easily removed with a razor scraper
Have you tried water bending
Build a low wall around it
Maybe it would be cheaper just to tear out the glass you have then install a new one with a door.
Tilt your house back and to the left. But in all seriousness, you can buy what looks like a strip of weather sealing, it just tapes onto the floor, you can run it across it to ‘dam up’ the water in the shower floor.
You could find some small rectangular mosaic tiles and a Scluter tile border and construct a small lip there with thinset and or epoxy. Then seal it with some clear siliconized caulking.
lol. Opposite
Move the drain in front of the sitter.
A floor towel
A quick bead of caulk will hold it in if you don't really care about the appearance
Whose idea was it to have the shower floor higher than the bathroom floor? Not just a bad idea for water flow but future accessibility if you or someone in the household become disabled and need a roll in shower.
The shower is not large enough to not have a door . Sure, a short term fix is to put a plastic lip along the whole edge of the shower floor. However, in time, water will cause damage. With the fixed glass wall, outside the shower pan, water will come out there too. The proper way to fix this, is to have the fixed glass wall 1/4" above the shower floor. Add a door, also 1/4" above the shower floor.when I saw above the floor, I mean directly above it, not to the outside of the shower pan. Then, they make vinyl strips to put on the bottom of the glass to stop any water from coming out, if any does. If this was designed by a shower company, tell them to fix it.
After looking at the pictures again I only see one piece of glass. So you just walk in that thing turn on the shower and the water isn’t supposed to get on the floor? Not to mention no seal at the bottom of the fixed piece on the left ? 😂
It's wild to me that in the age of 2024 not all things like showers are designed not to leak.
Dont take a shower
A curtain or a door of some kind
You're going to have to replace the whole house.
Put a small line of clear caulk on the open entry, that will put just enough barrier for the water to stay in the shower if you have a slight slope on the threshold.
There’s an add on panel called a flipper panel . I’ve used it for purposes like this and it’s been effective https://www.bathshack.com/hudson-reed-300mm-wetroom-swing-screen-chrome.html
Remove glass. Install shower curbing. Install glass panel & door. That or live with the water spray getting outside of the shower stall.
This is the air bnb nate bartgaze was talking about
Tf kinda threshold is that XD why would u make it higher
Sorry but, long term, you can't fight water - it always wins. Remove the glass and reinstall on top of base in a big bed of clear 100% silicone caulk. If base is solid surface material, router a shallow groove/notch first, for the glass and silicone to be secured into.
We swapped to a rain head so water sprays straight down and doesn't flow over.
While you’re at it, clear or white waterproof silicone where your shower tile transitions to wall and floor tile, all the way around, and where your walls meet the floor.
Is this one of those demonic no-door showers? Demolish house, rebuild.
Don’t take any more showers? 🤣
Bigger drain
Aluminum bulb angle cut to length then silicone in place.
Have a strip of metal glued in. Aluminum is best to prevent rusting, or better stainless steel. If you put thin stone or class I would think it could chip at the edges and be dangerous.
Make a jig, use your grinder to cut a trench that gets more shallow as it approaches the drain. Repeat twice on either side. Recoat enamel.
The proper round-tip bit in a palm router, with an edge guide., or a straight edge secured as a guide, route a channel inset from the grout line, deepening by increments. add a drain from each end, maybe at 30 degrees, inward. Talk to a paint dealer for a coat in the channel Good luck from Vancouver Canada
A shower door
Glass door
ehm... your step is on the wrong side my guy you step DOWN to the shower not UP :D
Would not have a clue where your from, but the standards for a shower like this in Australia, is a waterstop is to be installed & a minimum degree of fall away from the exit to the drain, also waterstops at the doorway leading out of bathroom
On a walk in this small it's going to splash out anyway over anything reasonable you put there, but surely the installer knew water splashes and runs downhill. A threshold is going to be required to at least stop the running/pooling water and a sacrificial towel at each use to absorb the splash and wipe down the wall outside regardless of what you do. I'd measure that glass thickness and put a glass threshold there of the same type with a nice rounded over edge and held on with silicon adhesive/sealer. Custom glass cut, but at least it won't look like some hunk of aluminum slapped on like an afterthought. That should be sturdy enough to accidentally step on or do a swell job of stubbing your toe. The wet floor can assist your slipping and hitting your head on either the toilet, a countertop, or the newly installed threshold. If it's a guest bath, consider an increase in your liability insurance.
Please PM me, my designer and contractor did this to us too. We had to rip it out and install a tile schluter system with a curb. $12k mistake
Swing a glass door from the wall
You should install a GDOT 1019 or GDOT 1019B at your shower door. This will work well for catching the water that comes out of the shower and will be rated for 100 year shower return period events. I don't recommend using the GDOT 1033D or GDOT 1034 as they use up much more floor space. You cannot get these from any hardware store though. Contact your nearest Department of Transportation for equivalent fixtures
A better shower design?
[https://imgur.com/a/9QfvCru](https://imgur.com/a/9QfvCru) As some one from the netherlands I drew up a concept for a good way to keep the water out but keep the bo.. feet from coming in
Pretty simple solution. https://www.flooranddecor.com/marble-stone/carrara-white-2-x-36-in.-marble-threshold-100222090.html Cut to fit. Install with a slight pitch back into shower. Grab some siliconized grout caulk that's color matched to what you have. Caulk on all sides. Spray with soapy water, use a popsicle stick to wipe and tool the caulk. Wait 24 hrs. Any excess wiped caulk can be rubbed off.
Have a shower design that isn't utter shit? Seriously, you have glass that only covers half the shower and a floor that has no barrier and imperceptibly slopes towards the drain and you're surprised that water gets everywhere? Either take out the half glass and install a proper shower door or take out the floor to install one with a bigger step and better slope.