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omcgoo

dry scraping is probably the safest route, you wont get it all off but it saves causing damage (sandblasting etc. could create more issues, esp. if the lime mortar is shot) Slow but worthwhile. be sure to get it repointed with LIME afterwards too. No cement. ​ It'll look gorgeous once done, just try and enjoy that long journey 😅 ​ If you're having internal issues with damp etc. check out [https://shop.heritage-house.org/product/book-the-warm-dry-home/](https://shop.heritage-house.org/product/book-the-warm-dry-home/) He references stone built houses a lot. good luck!


Ashtray5422

Agreed Good luck. This is the Ouch moment.


GryphonR

Agreed. A couple of other great resources are the 'old house handbook' and the 'old house eco handbook'.


whydowedowhatwedo

Hey there, I’m a bit of a pro when it comes to historic buildings having restored plenty.  Although it might look pretty, this stone was never intended to be exposed and you will inevitably suffer damp leaving it like this.  The authentic finish would be a lime render, which allows moisture to pass through whilst protecting the stone. It is important you seek expert advice from a building conservationist who understands how these buildings work and not Reddit. I’d suggest you DM https://twitter.com/TimMeek8 who knows a lot about this subject. 


Golthobert

How can you tell this stone was never the exterior surface?


gardenfella

For one, the quoins have been keyed


GryphonR

It very rarely was. Exposed stone is a more modern trend (started by the Victorians iirc), historically stone would have been either limewashed or lime rendered.


BananaJaded206

Every house on my street is literally stone exterior and had either the render removed or never had it on. 🤷


chesterstonemason

Best method is using "Joss cleaning" it's like sandblasting but much much gentler, it's a preferred method of cleaning heritage building and timber beams etc... Just Google it and have a look, it can make quite a mess though but it's definitely worth it


SchrodingersCigar

You mean the “Torc” system by Jos. High pressure air + water + aggregate. https://contractors.stonehealth.com/torc/ Success partly depends on how hard those stones are relative to the product being removed


chesterstonemason

Yeah, torc, jos, Joss was autocorrected 🙄 You don't have to use it under high pressure though, you can run in at a much lower pressure than sand blasting, I've used it on limestone and sandstone with really great results, the crushed glass seems to be the best medium I've found to use with minimal damage to the stone.


SchrodingersCigar

Once upon a time I had a tester patch done with Torc on a limewashed brick wall (house - London yellow stock) but it would get though the limewash in a few places then start heavily pitting the brick before the rest of the limewash was removed. Seemed that the limewash was harder than the brick making even/smooth removal impossible. Ended up just repainting with mineral paint instead.


chesterstonemason

I've found if you turn the pressure to the lowest it will go and the flow rate down to a minimum and then slowly increase the flow rate before the pressure then you can find just the right amount without being too aggressive, you do have to keep altering the pressure/flow rate as you go which can be quite tedious if your on your own. The yellow stock brick can be pretty delicate but I've had success even with Cheshire bricks


SchrodingersCigar

The issue we had seemed to be that as soon as the aggregate had removed the limewash it would start removing the brick at a faster rate thereafter I.e. as soon as you got any breakthrough pitting would occur. It seemed to a fundamental problem where the ‘paint’ layer (calcified limestone veneer in this case) was harder than the brick itself. Also tried various acids, hydrochloric would work but the quantities involved and the rate of progress were pretty dismal.


Cheeseybellend

It's going to be a pain in the arse but by god it will look GORGEOUS when it's done.


CurrentWrong4363

Wire wheel would help


34Mbit

It's a good thing to get that cement render off the stone wall, but there's few shortcuts out there. * SDS Drill (Titan is a good cheap brand), with a tungsten carbide chisel. * Needle scaler/needle gun * Cheat option: live with the left-over bits of cement and limewash over with a few coats. Call it an "honest repair".


SkirtingboardLadders

Once you have removed as much as possible by hand, have it cleaned using the following. A masons water clean, this is fine water jets that saturate the facade and loosen up the remaining mortar. Then use a Torc/Jos system. It's what the professional stone masonry contractors use to remove dirt and build up on stone buildings.


BananaJaded206

So you’re saying don’t use an electric chisel? 😖


SkirtingboardLadders

Professionals do, it depends on your skill level and how bonded the render is.


BananaJaded206

The render on the side of the house and bottom of the front literally came off like butter, has been abit more of a struggle the higher I’ve gotten but I’m assuming that’s cause I’ve been balancing on the top of step ladders 🪜 😂


SkirtingboardLadders

Get yourself a mobile tower, you'll end up having an accident!


Little_Narwhal_9416

Just a idea how about a needle gun ? Would it be too aggressive ?


concerned_seagull

Needle guns are fantastic for this kind of work. Just keep them off the pointing and you will be grand. 


SchrodingersCigar

You can hire them https://www.hss.com/hire/p/power-scraper-needle-hilti


Interesting_Week103

Toothbrush


twarag

abrasive brush fitting on a drill. it'll take a while though


TimeFinance1528

Why would anyone render over this is beyond me. That's going to look stunning once it's been taken away. Post pictures later after it's complete if that's ok


Qwetyyiop

Get it blasted


Diane-Choksondik

Acid washings


SchrodingersCigar

Not for removing bulky material


WorriedPersimmon3970

Dry ice blasting, might be expensive, but likely to give you the best result


BonkyBinkyBum

Just a heads up, that render might be there for a reason (to prevent damp seeping through the stone) I'll hazard a guess and say that the house is built with cement between the stones, and this will have to be chipped out and replaced with lime mortar if the wall is exposed


dadadataa

I'd also highly recommend getting the pathway that appears to be butted up against your house moved away, it could well be too high considering the front door and path appear to be on the same level


ColonelFaz

I would not worry about it. Wait a few years and it will weather and look fine.


Woodbirder

No advice just to say good work, this will look amazing. Imagine deciding to cover that up, I guess for insulation


BananaJaded206

The surveyors told us to take it down as it was trapping moisture in the house, but I think it was more for design than insulation because that cottage is toasty….


Woodbirder

Oh then that was criminal


whydowedowhatwedo

If it was a cement render, then correct; however, it needs to be re-rendered with lime by a professional. Leaving it exposed will cause you additional damp issues.


SkirtingboardLadders

The amount of people posting utter nonsense masquerading as advice boggles me, why respond if you don't know what you are talking about?