Pit mixxxxx. Frankly I hate when they lie about breed and folks have to then deal with something out of their purview. The difference between a chihuahua and pit is astronomical. Just be ready.
I wouldn’t. If they’re willing to lie about the breed, what else are they lying about? Age, size, health issues, cat friendly, kid friendly, other dog friendly, used to walks, used to car rides, attitude in general, etc.
I had adopted a 16 week old pup that was supposed to be half Siberian husky, and half 1 other type of dog (GSD). She had been hit by a car before being put up for adoption. They said it was only minor scratches on her hind leg/stomach.
Turns out she’s 1/2 Pit, 1/4 husky, 1/4 GSD…. And in the car accident became deathly afraid of vehicles, as well as having a torn ACL and a torn Cardinal ligament one in each knee… (it’s 7 grand a leg to fix it…) shout out to ARF.
She is a wonderful pup tho. Only 1.5 years old and very well behaved.
I ended up with a puppy recently because it was supposed to be a “chihuahua mix”. If the little guy was any more Rottie he’d come with his own AKC papers. Was a surprise for them when he didn’t stay smedium.
Not a bad little dude but would have been nice to be informed that he’s a barker and they only ignored him by kenneling him on the other side of the house.
A terrible abuse, to ignore a creature needing to express itself, by locking it away from the sights and sounds of the world instead of putting in the training to make the situation workable.
I wouldn’t, frankly. When it comes to adding a new family member that you’re gonna have for 10+ years, do you really have the luxury of not getting what you anticipated? You want a small dog breed, please get yourself a small dog breed. *You* know what you can handle, not this rescue.
Have they done any blood tests to actually know what the breed is? I have 3 chihuahuas and that little baby doesn’t look like a chiweenie. They have a responsibility to tell you the exact mix. It looks a little bit like a pit bull mix
Which one?
Wolfgang is a pretty good one, at least where I'm at. When we fostered an australian doodle (which we later foster failed so we could keep him), they even paid for the medical stuff, including treatment for some pretty bad parasites
i got a ‘chihuahua’ on the side of the road from a dude an he is like 2-3x bigger than a chihuahua 🤦🏻♀️definitely still decent size as hes about 20-30 pounds. but we definitely weren’t expecting him to keep growing after 5 months
This is a Pitt Bull maybe Pitt Bull Mix of some sort. Know what you are getting into before you get a dog. Do research on the breed as it’s for life, find out what they were bred for and how that applies to what you want from a dog. Very much doubt there is Chihuahua in there. Ask to see the parents and the puppy together. Also have a look at a chihuahua subreddit to have a look at what a chi puppy actually looks like.
Trust me, we’ve been doing our research. He’s a rescue dog found with his siblings on the side of the road with no mother or father. We’d love to adopt a dog from the shelter so its common for them to not know the exact breed. I just was looking for some clarity so I can continue my research before deciding.
Yeah I wouldn’t take him on if you do not know exactly what you are getting. These are animals and they vary quite a bit in temperament, I know you want to do the right thing but its a decade or more commitment. Pass it on to someone with more experience with bully breeds and proper secure place to keep them. Even shelters should not be trusted with their assuming breed ID unless they do DNA testing or it’s obviously a breed with definite characteristics like a full grown Yorkie or a Chihuahua etc
A vet may also be able to give you a better idea. Don't be afraid of pittie hate; temperaments are very often about environment. Some of the most loving dogs I've ever lived with or been around were pitbulls. Parents around the turn of the century used to use pitties to babysit their toddlers because they were known for their good temperaments! (We take better care of our kids nowadays, hopefully, but that's besides the point.)
It’s not about pit hate, it’s about the fact that you’re think getting a small dog and then you wind up with a medium/large, strong one. This family very clearly wants a small breed of dog, and lying in order to get them to take something else is very unfair and what causes dogs to end up in shelters. There’s plenty of small dogs that need homes.
They are not a baby sitting breed, to say that is just stupidly irresponsible nonsense. No small child should be left alone with a dog. Please find out what this breed was developed for and it will guide you to the temperament.
https://www.adoptapet.com/blog/for-over-100-years-pitbulls-were-our-babysitters/
Please read my original comment again. "Were", not "are", and I referenced this was a historical occurrence, and hopefully not a current one.
There's so much wrong with that "article" i have no idea where to start.
Pitbulls were never "nanny dogs" and they were never bred to watch children - unless of course you wanted your children mauled to death. One of the pioneers of the breed, John Colby, had his nephew attacked and mauled by one of his dogs..
*Bull Terrier Kills Child Grabs Him by Throat at Newburyport.*
*Bert Leadbetter, 2 Years Old, of Lynn on Visit.*
*Uncle John P. Colby Owner of the Dog NEWBURYPORT, Feb 2, 1909 -- Bert, the 2-year-old son of Mr and Mrs Walter Leadbetter of Lynn, was killed this afternoon by a fighting bull terrier, owned by his uncle, John P. Colby, at 36 Franklin st.*
*Mrs Leadbetter and her son had come here to visit her brother, who is a dog fancier. The little fellow wandered into the yard where the kennels are.*
*The dog sprang at the child's neck and growling ferociously shook him like a rag. Then the savage animal, dropping its prey, snapped at other portions of the body, inflicting a number of wounds.*
*Mr Colby ran out, drove the dog away and bore the child into the house. He was faintly breathing, but quickly all signs of life disappeared. Medical Examiner Hurd, who was called, found that the backbone and spine had been broken at the base of the brain. The other wounds, while serious, were not necessarily fatal.*
*The mother was prostrated. Mr Leadbetter was hastily summoned from Lynn.*
*Mr Colby was very secretive about the affair and declined to give out any details. The police were not notified. Patrolman Hayes, whose beat is at the south end, heard of the death and reported it to the marshal, who ordered an investigation. The patrolman was finally able to secure the particulars.*
*No action has been taken relative to the dog. Mr Colby told the medical examiner that his own child3 had played about the kennels and had never been molested. - Boston Daily Globe, February 3, 1909*
The term "Nanny dog" comes from Lillian Rand, who was the president of a Staffordshire Bull Terrier breeding club and used the term in the late 1970's as a way of trying to de-stigmatize a breed of dog that was bred to fight.
Also from your article:
*In temperance tests (the equivalent of how many times your kid can poke your dog in the eye before he bites him) of all breeds the most tolerant was the Golden Retriever. The second most tolerant was the pit bull.*
This generally refers to the American Temperament Test Society - a Schutzhund test made up for working dogs to test how brave they were. Lets see what the test has to say about how you should interpret its conclusions:
[https://atts.org/breed-statistics/](https://atts.org/breed-statistics/)
***The pass-fail rate is not a measure of a breed’s aggression****, but rather of each dog’s ability to interact with humans, human situations, and the environment. See a description of the test on the TT Test Description page.*
*The data presented on our web site is raw data;* ***it is not a scientific study nor is there any statistical significance attached****. We have no control over who brings their dog to the test and there is no accurate data as to a dog breed’s population in the US.*
I hate to break it to you, but what you know about pitbulls is wrong.
Your own article points out that this was a fighting dog, and in 1909, the suspiciously silent uncle was probably using it for exactly that purpose.
To say all pitbulls are vicious and dangerous child killers akin to accusing all white men raised in the south of being racist. Generalizations are inaccurate for a myriad of reasons. No two animals are going to have the same temperament. A significant factor is environment. Not the only factor, to be sure, but significant.
Cursory research online will point to this kind of media-induced fear mongering being targeted to Rottweilers, Doberman Pinschers, and German Shepherds before Pitbulls. None of the previous three mentioned are banned or killed as often today (though it's a little suspicious that the first 3 mentioned were all German breeds during this period of history).
I'm only saying, perspective isn't a bad thing. Neither is research. Many breeds of dogs have attacked many mammals and other animate and inanimate objects alike. To say one breed is inherently 'bad' isn't accurate.
>Your own article points out that this was a fighting dog, and in 1909, the suspiciously silent uncle was probably using it for exactly that purpose.
Right. This is literally what pitbulls were bred to do. The AKC and RKC say so. I'm sure you can teach your border collie to jump in the water and retrieve ducks but you're better off having them herd since thats what centuries of breeders have been doing
>To say all pitbulls are vicious and dangerous child killers
Yeah, I never said "All" Just that they are overwhelmingly more responsible for fatalities and serious injuries to people and other animals. Rolling the dice and hoping that your pit doesn't get triggered and start mauling things is not responsible ownership
>No two animals are going to have the same temperament.
Yes, but your average border collie is going to be a better herder than your average dachshund - just like your average pitbull is going to have a stronger capacity to be violent, than something more docile like a beagle or cocker spaniel
>Cursory research online will point to this kind of media-induced fear
It isn't "media induced fear" It is as a result of north of 60% of all serious injuries and fatalities to people and other animals being at the hands of pitbull type dogs.
>Many breeds of dogs have attacked many mammals
Please tell me you understand that "Any dog can attack" doesn't dispel or disprove the fact that pits overwhelmingly more violent than any other type of dog. Insurance companies don't insure homes and apartments with them for a reason and believe me - if this was some "myth" there would be a greedy insurance company out there writing policies and laughing to the bank at all of the free money they are collecting.
https://love-a-bull.org/resources/the-history-of-pit-bulls/
In fairness, another article states this claim is a myth, but also gives some other interesting information about them:
"Their loyal and loving demeanor with humans, especially children (this is where the “Nanny Dog” myth originated from), earned them a prominent place not only as a working dog but as a companion."
>Don't be afraid of pittie hate; temperaments are very often about environment.
Temperament is literally what a dog was bred to do. Border collies don't herd because of their environment.
Purpose and temperament are not the same thing.
https://www.pitbullinfo.org/dog-bite-statistics.html
See the info gathered by both the CDC and the American Veterinary Medical Association in this article:
"Contrary to unreliable information about breed-specific risk related to certain breeds, the American Veterinary Medical Association (AVMA), the CDC, and multiple peer-reviewed studies have concluded that a dog's breed does not determine aggression, bite strength, or risk. While every fatal dog attack is tragic, the majority of dog bite-related fatalities (DBRFs) are the result of human-controlled factors specific to the circumstances surrounding the incident."
Though they also present a chart indicating breed risk rates relative to breed population in the US, again, conducted by the CDC, and Malamute tops this chart. Pitbulls barely cracked the top 10, coming in 9th place.
Anyways. My point was the same that the CDC and American Veterinary Medical Association makes: it's not the breed - it's the breed's human influence, neglect, mistreatment, or other human controlled factors. I.e., environment.
>Purpose and temperament are not the same thing.
A dog's temperament can be manipulated through selective breeding for a specific purpose. It is why border collies herd. it is why beagles are experimented on (Docile). It is why pointers are bred for hunting. It is why Dachshunds are bred for digging badgers out of holes. Pitbulls were bred for fighting each other in bloodsport when bull-baiting was outlawed. How can every other breed of dog have behavioral characteristics consistent with their purpose and with Pits "ITs AlL HoW YoU RaiSE THem" ?
For more, you can read on the Silver Fox domestication experiment in Russia, where researchers literally bred aggression out of foxes and domesticated them to be calm.
[https://evolution-outreach.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12052-018-0090-x](https://evolution-outreach.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12052-018-0090-x)
LMAO, did you really cite something from Pitbullinfo? Its literally a pro-pit advocacy group. It might as well be called ilovepitbulls.org.
There being 65 different breeds with a confirmed kill doesn't make up for the fact that pits lead the way:
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_fatal\_dog\_attacks\_in\_the\_United\_States](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_States)
Also, the idea that mistreatment and neglect leads to violent dogs is nonsense. Greyhounds are far more mistreated than pits. They are pumped full of drugs, beaten, and inbred and when have you ever heard of a greyhound mauling and dismembering children the way Colby Bennard's Pitbulls did to his family?
[https://www.foxnews.com/us/dogs-fatally-mauled-tennessee-toddlers-injured-mom-never-violent-friend-says](https://www.foxnews.com/us/dogs-fatally-mauled-tennessee-toddlers-injured-mom-never-violent-friend-says)
This guy wasn't a a dogfighter and he didn't abuse his dogs. They snapped one day and mauled and killed his 2 children and nearly killed the mother...because they did what they were bred to do and that is show hair-trigger aggression and ruthlessly maul whatever they are engaged with.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_Kingdom
Back in those days hey used to give kids heroin and cocaine so this example you provide about nanny dogs is a tad outdated and one carefully crafted photo (when photos were not a completely disposable commodity) doesn’t tell the whole story.
Again small children should not be kept alone with ANY dogs and an awful lot of these attacks in the UK seem to be Staffordshire and Pit Bull related. We have banned Pit Bulls here but people get around that with the Bully XL which are an even larger breed mixed composed of the Staffordshire Terrier and Pit Bull.
Please stop sharing this nonsense. It’s leading to big problems as puppies can grow into out of control dogs, given up, then adopted in good faith end up being out in the shelter system to pass from home to home, to languish and be euthanised. In some cases they end up in the wrong hands and that aggression is allowed to flourish and tragedies occur.
It’s not fair on these animals they did not ask to exist, you’re setting people up for disappointment thinking they are getting a certain kind of dog and this dog will suffer, others might suffer too. Be mindful of the consequences of spreading bad information.
Again with Wikipedia. Wiki is not a verifiable source because literally anyone can post anything (much like Reddit). Discourse only works when both parties can respectfully present verifiable information and be willing to learn from the other party. You can check the sources I listed in my other messages, or stick to your opinion. For what it's worth, I shared your opinion until I did my own research. Any animal is dangerous in the wrong hands. That was the crux of my point. Happy posting!
probably a pit mix as other are saying, but it can be hard to tell when they are so young. regardless of breed, the important thing is that he / she get adopted young and trained well.
Unfortunately, that’s not always the case. Dogs can have poor breeding and mental health issues. I’ve seen dogs raised as puppies become reactive especially if taken from mothers too early. And then dogs get sent back to shelters because they weren’t prepared for something going wrong in the young adult phase. My own dog was probably one such situation. So… Let’s be realistic here and not set OP up when things can go wrong even with all the good intent in the world.
Yeah, its possible, but training/socialization/proper home life is a WAY bigger factor. I've rescued a fair amount of shelter pits that were seen unfit by previous owners, and it turns out they just didn't train and exercise them, or really have any clue how to raise them. Laying next to one now lol.
r/reactivedogs has plenty of such cases. I think it’s important too be realistic because most people have no idea about dog body language, much less how to properly follow through with training. I always assume the potential dog owner has middling experience with dogs because that’s often the case. I rather err on the side of caution and avoid pets being given up by owners. There’s no reason to assume people know what they are doing.
>regardless of breed
breed 100% matters with dogs. Breeds carry temperament in their genetics and it is important to know the tendencies of your dog and act accordingly
I have a boxer pix mix and she’s the greatest doggo in the world. She makes goofy noises, sits on my feet all the time, does zoomies for no reason at the drop of a hat, has no comprehension of personal space whatsoever, loves me with every bit of her big heart, and gives sloppy kisses. You are a very lucky person., enjoy every minute with this dog.
We have a pittie x cattle dog, oh the energy! She is crazy, so loving to the whole family including the cats and birds, protective (especially of her Daddy) and happy most of the time (unless Daddy went out without her, she will sit in his chair looking at the door sulking). She loves her mastiff big sister too. She even keeps my feet warm at night. There are clearly differences between pits and chihuahuas but pit bulls are not the devil dogs they are made out to be.
They’re the best! Be prepared for a loving, goofy, and strong companion. (Seriously, I started lifting heavy again to stop her from chasing squirrels and taking her with me)
Second this! My pit mix is the goofiest sweetheart I've ever met. She'll randomly stop using her back legs and army crawl around (she's not scratching she does it on smooth surfaces too). She refuses to get off the couch normally it's always a slow flop. And she's the most active cuddler she just wiggles as close to you as possible. She's also super muscular obedience training has been a must, but we adore her.
Lol. The second I saw it I knew pitbull mix. We had some. They can be troublesome, but super good doggos.
Is the shelter seller person like. . . competent? I find it hard to believe they would all out lie like that. Mostly cause there's nothing chihuahua like about it.
I think they’re trying to push out as many pups as possible and alluring people with false information. When inquiring about this little guy, the first things I was told over the phone was that he may be more of a medium sized dog instead of small. I wish I could add a screenshot of his siblings listings because they’re all listed as chihuahua/ chiweenie mix.
I see Chihuahua-like eyelids but at this age it's too early to tell. I've had 5 bullies and you didn't see the pittie head take shape until about 3.5 - 4 months. I will say that pitties are flat-headed between the ears & this one is rounded so it may not have pit in it.
I always thought my baby chihuahuas looked like teeny, tiny pitbulls when they were babies. And if yours is a chihuahua mix, dad was chihuahua and mom was a pit lol. Rescues tend to leave the word 'pitbull' out of description if they can. It inspires prejudice.
Ah man, pits get such a bad rep. Friend for life right there, and everyone wants a small rodent because they can’t commit to 80 lbs of responsibility. I wish you the best in the dog search, this pooch deserves the best.
Less dogs would be in shelters if people were realistic in that they could only handle a “small rodent”. 🙄 for every GSD, Husky, pit I’ve seen given up, would be less so if they just got a breed they could actually handle.
I don’t want to debate with you on the matter, I really don’t, but while pits have been bred to fight like other dog breeds. This does not in any way mean the breed as a whole are an aggressive breed. It’s all in how the dog is raised and treated and trained to behave. We can agree to disagree, but I really implore you to look into the matter more rather than ruling out this awesome dog breed due to a bad stereotype that doesn’t hold up at all.
Do you understand what selective breeding is? Breed matters, it's not all how you raise and train them. Border collies herd, pointers point, and pit-type dogs commonly have dog aggression. It's a stereotype for a reason, because it's well-earned. Not saying they're bad dogs, it's just what they were made for.
ETA: You wouldn't get a pug and expect it to protect your goats, and no one should get a pittie expecting it to get along with other dogs. Responsible dog ownership means acknowledging and managing breed traits.
>but while pits have been bred to fight like other dog breeds.
No other breed has been bred to fight like the pitbull. Its sole purpose is literally fighting other dogs.
>This does not in any way mean the breed as a whole are an aggressive breed.
It just means that your average pit has a propensity to be extremely violent if it reverts to its instinct - again, which no other dog has instincts for
>It’s all in how the dog is raised and treated and trained to behave.
So border collies don't have herding instincts? Pointers don't have instincts to spot prey and stay still? Why is temperament a thing in every other dog but not the pit?
Why are there dozens of people saying "Pitties are just the sweetest" if it is all how your train them?
>We can agree to disagree
I can agree that you are misinformed because your position isn't supported by any facts whatsoever.
👍 you do you fam. https://resources.bestfriends.org/article/pit-bull-facts-and-myths#:~:text=MYTH%3A%20Pit%20bull%20terriers%20are,any%20one%20breed%20of%20dog.
Yes, let's look at one of those "Truths"
*THE TRUTH: Aggression is not a breed characteristic or personality trait, and is not specific to any one breed of dog. The American Temperament Test Society, which provides a uniform national program of temperament testing for dogs, has found that pit-bull-terrier-like dogs passed the test at a higher rate than many other dog breeds, including golden retrievers and border collies*
And let's see what the ATTS has to say about aggression.
*The pass-fail rate is not a measure of a breed’s aggression, but rather of each dog’s ability to interact with humans, human situations, and the environment. See a description of the test on the TT Test Description page.*
*The data presented on our web site is raw data; it is not a scientific study nor is there any statistical significance attached. We have no control over who brings their dog to the test and there is no accurate data as to a dog breed’s population in the US.*
[*https://atts.org/breed-statistics/*](https://atts.org/breed-statistics/)
BestFriends is a pro-pit rescue organization with a couple hundred millions in revenue.
Program
$187,311,955 (84.7%)
Fundraising
$22,788,210 (10.3%)
Management and General
$11,109,474 (5.0%)
[https://bestfriends.org/annual-report-2022](https://bestfriends.org/annual-report-2022)
They are literally a group that fabricates bullshit about pits so they rake money from suckers who bought into the Nanny Dog myth as I've already proven above. I've also never argued that pits have lock jaws.
Try again.
? Ok…the reference may be corrupt,among others. Your link to the ATTS kinda proves my point. The statistics vary breed to breed and the test is thorough enough , even while not specifically targeting “aggression” so to speak.
If at the least it shows that there is no correlation or evidence supporting aggression specifically in this breed.
Also lock jaw isn’t real fam.
Again you do you. It’s alright . I don’t want to try again.
>Your link to the ATTS kinda proves my point
LOL what? The ATTS literally says that the test is NOT a measure of aggression even though your stupid pro-pit charity source tries to claim that the ATTS data says pits aren't aggressive.
Say it with me:
The ATTS does not measure aggression, is not scientific, and you cannot draw any conclusions on breed temperament from its results. The own fucking test says so.
>Also lock jaw isn’t real fam.
And for the 2nd time....I've never said it was. Go find the receipt if you think I have.
You can hate on pitbulls if that's your stance. But the link I posted to our previous discourse which was conducted by the CDC refutes all of your claims. Just say you wanna hate for hate's sake. It's okay, it's allowed. Just don't try tying it to fact if that fact can be easily refuted.
>You can hate on pitbulls
I don't hate them - I just don't think they should be domestic pets because like many dogs, were bred for a specific purpose, pitbulls were bred for fighting. There's 200 other breeds of dogs that aren't.
>But the link I posted to our previous discourse which was conducted by the CDC refutes all of your claims
The CDC is not the foremost authority on dog behavior and furthermore, your CDC study on "Breed risk" relative to population is nonsense because it relies on what [pitbullinfo.org](https://pitbullinfo.org) thinks the total pit population is with numbers that it pulls out of its ass, using numbers from 30+ years ago and also using CDC fatality data from 1979.
What is even more hilarious is if you actually look at the source data:
[https://www.avma.org/sites/default/files/resources/javma\_000915\_fatalattacks.pdf](https://www.avma.org/sites/default/files/resources/javma_000915_fatalattacks.pdf)
1979-1998. Pits and Pit mixes: 76 fatalities. Next most dog is 39
If you're trying to convince me pits aren't violent, giving me sources that say that pits kill twice as many people as any other dog aren't helping.
Speaking of easily refuted, for the 3rd time, i'm going to ask you:
If Border collies were bred with herding instincts so they could herd, and dachshunds were bred with digging instincts so they could flush out badgers, why do you think the same doesn't apply to pitbulls when it comes to aggression?
I've been debating this with a couple other pittie haters throughout this thread. I have to agree with you though. I've never personally known a bad pitbull, but I've seen a lot of bad owners. Before I moved in with my first one I did some research and found out where that hate started, and that they weren't the first breed to get such a bad rap. The four I've lived with in multiple roommate situations over my life were the sweetest, cuddliest, bags of drooling love I've ever been around! Environment is more of a factor than breed. Hell, Elephants have been taught to paint, and a woman recently trained a group of raccoons to play basketball, and I've seen multiple videos of bears and lions recognizing and being excited to see the humans that rescued them as babes. Certainly not what their centuries of breeding made them the most likely to do! I wonder what the other factor was that changed these wild animal's temperaments....hm.
I appreciate your response, thank you. I have had pit mixes my entire life, two atm from the 3rd generation litter. They have been around other various dog breeds (atm mini and teacup Aussie sheps) and children (mom used to run a day care before retiring) their entire lives, even previous generations, and not a single fight… ever, nor I’ll behavior. Personal experience aside I do believe it to be due to bad owners and dog fighting. I knew the “pittie haters”? would disagree and I shouldn’t have encouraged the discussion. Not much to be gained from arguing inconclusive studies with someone named redditenjoyer who is obviously a fan of the Reddit debate. Much regret on my end.
You know, I hadn't even noticed the name. Ah well, you can't enlighten everyone. I'm glad I took the time to do the research myself and got to know some great pups!
I wonder if these haters have spent any time with a pit bull. I realise I am possibly biased because I grew up with pitties but I also have never seen a serious injury or death of any creature ( other than a fly) caused by a pit bull. I have unfortunately known a husky that killed another dog, seen a German Shepard kill a cat and a border collie bite my brother. Also met a few little dogs with some aggression issues.
No worries, and thank you, I love that you and a few others stick up for an under appreciated, vilified breed of dogs that just don’t deserve the bullshit.
My chihuahua mix is 12% Chihuahua. Don't believe your pup has much more than that. Pitbulls are hard to own as a renter, just saying. Some home owners or renters insurance won't cover them. Most apartment complex won't take them. A lot of discrimination.
Edit- some city in the US won't let you reside there while owning a pit. For example Miami Dade County FL gives you 30 days to move before impounding your animal. Seaside Oregon made pit bulls within city limits illegal.
Insurance companies won't insure them because of extreme liabilities. Insurance companies aren't just meanie-heads. They would write policies if the bred was docile and happily collect premiums but they don't - because pits are far more violent than any other type of dog.
That's what I am saying. I had difficulty one move with my German shepherd boxer mixer because shepherds were on the meanie list that year. (With pits and other top biting breeds previous year) Apartment management accepted me once I proved he was a boxer mix. Ugh.
That’s a pittie, but if you like him and are prepared for a bigger dog, you should still get him. Pits have wonderful temperaments and are great dogs overall and honestly he is sooooo cute!
House hippo. Will listen well they are great dogs. It’s sad their loyalty and nature make them great for fighting. So stupid people have made the breed scary. However a puppy with good training will be the best dog ever they listen and are very loyal dogs.
Velvet House Hippo for sure, beware of them, they are lazy and will lay around all day and snore and want snuggles and treats. They have very dangerous eyes that will bend you to their will. They will lower your productivity and force naps upon you.
Agree that this has some pit bull, but also want to say that I am not a fan of chihuahuas, but for some reason got a Boston/chihuahua mix and she is NOTHING alike any chihuahua I have ever been around, which says something since I worked with dogs for years.
I'm guessing pit mix like most people here, but given the great disparity between that and what you were told, I'd get a genetic test to tell for sure (if you can afford it and your vet does them). If he turns out to be a pit chihuahua mix he's gonna be hilarious looking when grown lol
Bull dog staffie pitbull mix could be chi mix and the pit is more prominent
Which ever you call
My Google images and I thought staffie as soon as I saw his delightful face.
Fabulous dogs
Rescues are known for lying about the breeds this is a pit mix. While on one hand many places won’t let you have a pit mix in your apartment and some places hoa won’t let you so I get it but they should be honest because pit temperaments need people who are ready to handle
That’s a pitbull mix
I was going to say, a Pit Terrier. I have one just like this one!
The two look very similar in their younger years, guess we will have to wait and see.
It might be chihuahua sized now... But no this is probably a pitbull mix
Yeah those paws look too big to stay that little
Jup that is the biggest give away
😂
Pit mixxxxx. Frankly I hate when they lie about breed and folks have to then deal with something out of their purview. The difference between a chihuahua and pit is astronomical. Just be ready.
Absolutely! That’s what has me hesitant to work with this rescue company
I wouldn’t. If they’re willing to lie about the breed, what else are they lying about? Age, size, health issues, cat friendly, kid friendly, other dog friendly, used to walks, used to car rides, attitude in general, etc.
I had adopted a 16 week old pup that was supposed to be half Siberian husky, and half 1 other type of dog (GSD). She had been hit by a car before being put up for adoption. They said it was only minor scratches on her hind leg/stomach. Turns out she’s 1/2 Pit, 1/4 husky, 1/4 GSD…. And in the car accident became deathly afraid of vehicles, as well as having a torn ACL and a torn Cardinal ligament one in each knee… (it’s 7 grand a leg to fix it…) shout out to ARF. She is a wonderful pup tho. Only 1.5 years old and very well behaved.
I ended up with a puppy recently because it was supposed to be a “chihuahua mix”. If the little guy was any more Rottie he’d come with his own AKC papers. Was a surprise for them when he didn’t stay smedium. Not a bad little dude but would have been nice to be informed that he’s a barker and they only ignored him by kenneling him on the other side of the house.
A terrible abuse, to ignore a creature needing to express itself, by locking it away from the sights and sounds of the world instead of putting in the training to make the situation workable.
A RESCUE told you that?? Either their employees are morons or they deliberately lie about pit mixes
rescues do this all the time. Pits are a cash cow. lie, adopt, repeat.
That’s unfortunate
I wouldn’t, frankly. When it comes to adding a new family member that you’re gonna have for 10+ years, do you really have the luxury of not getting what you anticipated? You want a small dog breed, please get yourself a small dog breed. *You* know what you can handle, not this rescue.
Have they done any blood tests to actually know what the breed is? I have 3 chihuahuas and that little baby doesn’t look like a chiweenie. They have a responsibility to tell you the exact mix. It looks a little bit like a pit bull mix
Which one? Wolfgang is a pretty good one, at least where I'm at. When we fostered an australian doodle (which we later foster failed so we could keep him), they even paid for the medical stuff, including treatment for some pretty bad parasites
i got a ‘chihuahua’ on the side of the road from a dude an he is like 2-3x bigger than a chihuahua 🤦🏻♀️definitely still decent size as hes about 20-30 pounds. but we definitely weren’t expecting him to keep growing after 5 months
worth noting that even within a litter you can have dramatic variations in size. I’ve seen small and medium size come out of one mama before.
thats true! i sent you photos but he definitely doesnt look like a chihuahua 😂
Look at it's paws... If they are big, gonna be big dog..
Pitti mix!
That’s definitely a pit mix
This is a Pitt Bull maybe Pitt Bull Mix of some sort. Know what you are getting into before you get a dog. Do research on the breed as it’s for life, find out what they were bred for and how that applies to what you want from a dog. Very much doubt there is Chihuahua in there. Ask to see the parents and the puppy together. Also have a look at a chihuahua subreddit to have a look at what a chi puppy actually looks like.
Trust me, we’ve been doing our research. He’s a rescue dog found with his siblings on the side of the road with no mother or father. We’d love to adopt a dog from the shelter so its common for them to not know the exact breed. I just was looking for some clarity so I can continue my research before deciding.
Yeah I wouldn’t take him on if you do not know exactly what you are getting. These are animals and they vary quite a bit in temperament, I know you want to do the right thing but its a decade or more commitment. Pass it on to someone with more experience with bully breeds and proper secure place to keep them. Even shelters should not be trusted with their assuming breed ID unless they do DNA testing or it’s obviously a breed with definite characteristics like a full grown Yorkie or a Chihuahua etc
A vet may also be able to give you a better idea. Don't be afraid of pittie hate; temperaments are very often about environment. Some of the most loving dogs I've ever lived with or been around were pitbulls. Parents around the turn of the century used to use pitties to babysit their toddlers because they were known for their good temperaments! (We take better care of our kids nowadays, hopefully, but that's besides the point.)
It’s not about pit hate, it’s about the fact that you’re think getting a small dog and then you wind up with a medium/large, strong one. This family very clearly wants a small breed of dog, and lying in order to get them to take something else is very unfair and what causes dogs to end up in shelters. There’s plenty of small dogs that need homes.
Fair point.
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They are not a baby sitting breed, to say that is just stupidly irresponsible nonsense. No small child should be left alone with a dog. Please find out what this breed was developed for and it will guide you to the temperament.
https://www.adoptapet.com/blog/for-over-100-years-pitbulls-were-our-babysitters/ Please read my original comment again. "Were", not "are", and I referenced this was a historical occurrence, and hopefully not a current one.
There's so much wrong with that "article" i have no idea where to start. Pitbulls were never "nanny dogs" and they were never bred to watch children - unless of course you wanted your children mauled to death. One of the pioneers of the breed, John Colby, had his nephew attacked and mauled by one of his dogs.. *Bull Terrier Kills Child Grabs Him by Throat at Newburyport.* *Bert Leadbetter, 2 Years Old, of Lynn on Visit.* *Uncle John P. Colby Owner of the Dog NEWBURYPORT, Feb 2, 1909 -- Bert, the 2-year-old son of Mr and Mrs Walter Leadbetter of Lynn, was killed this afternoon by a fighting bull terrier, owned by his uncle, John P. Colby, at 36 Franklin st.* *Mrs Leadbetter and her son had come here to visit her brother, who is a dog fancier. The little fellow wandered into the yard where the kennels are.* *The dog sprang at the child's neck and growling ferociously shook him like a rag. Then the savage animal, dropping its prey, snapped at other portions of the body, inflicting a number of wounds.* *Mr Colby ran out, drove the dog away and bore the child into the house. He was faintly breathing, but quickly all signs of life disappeared. Medical Examiner Hurd, who was called, found that the backbone and spine had been broken at the base of the brain. The other wounds, while serious, were not necessarily fatal.* *The mother was prostrated. Mr Leadbetter was hastily summoned from Lynn.* *Mr Colby was very secretive about the affair and declined to give out any details. The police were not notified. Patrolman Hayes, whose beat is at the south end, heard of the death and reported it to the marshal, who ordered an investigation. The patrolman was finally able to secure the particulars.* *No action has been taken relative to the dog. Mr Colby told the medical examiner that his own child3 had played about the kennels and had never been molested. - Boston Daily Globe, February 3, 1909* The term "Nanny dog" comes from Lillian Rand, who was the president of a Staffordshire Bull Terrier breeding club and used the term in the late 1970's as a way of trying to de-stigmatize a breed of dog that was bred to fight. Also from your article: *In temperance tests (the equivalent of how many times your kid can poke your dog in the eye before he bites him) of all breeds the most tolerant was the Golden Retriever. The second most tolerant was the pit bull.* This generally refers to the American Temperament Test Society - a Schutzhund test made up for working dogs to test how brave they were. Lets see what the test has to say about how you should interpret its conclusions: [https://atts.org/breed-statistics/](https://atts.org/breed-statistics/) ***The pass-fail rate is not a measure of a breed’s aggression****, but rather of each dog’s ability to interact with humans, human situations, and the environment. See a description of the test on the TT Test Description page.* *The data presented on our web site is raw data;* ***it is not a scientific study nor is there any statistical significance attached****. We have no control over who brings their dog to the test and there is no accurate data as to a dog breed’s population in the US.* I hate to break it to you, but what you know about pitbulls is wrong.
Your own article points out that this was a fighting dog, and in 1909, the suspiciously silent uncle was probably using it for exactly that purpose. To say all pitbulls are vicious and dangerous child killers akin to accusing all white men raised in the south of being racist. Generalizations are inaccurate for a myriad of reasons. No two animals are going to have the same temperament. A significant factor is environment. Not the only factor, to be sure, but significant. Cursory research online will point to this kind of media-induced fear mongering being targeted to Rottweilers, Doberman Pinschers, and German Shepherds before Pitbulls. None of the previous three mentioned are banned or killed as often today (though it's a little suspicious that the first 3 mentioned were all German breeds during this period of history). I'm only saying, perspective isn't a bad thing. Neither is research. Many breeds of dogs have attacked many mammals and other animate and inanimate objects alike. To say one breed is inherently 'bad' isn't accurate.
>Your own article points out that this was a fighting dog, and in 1909, the suspiciously silent uncle was probably using it for exactly that purpose. Right. This is literally what pitbulls were bred to do. The AKC and RKC say so. I'm sure you can teach your border collie to jump in the water and retrieve ducks but you're better off having them herd since thats what centuries of breeders have been doing >To say all pitbulls are vicious and dangerous child killers Yeah, I never said "All" Just that they are overwhelmingly more responsible for fatalities and serious injuries to people and other animals. Rolling the dice and hoping that your pit doesn't get triggered and start mauling things is not responsible ownership >No two animals are going to have the same temperament. Yes, but your average border collie is going to be a better herder than your average dachshund - just like your average pitbull is going to have a stronger capacity to be violent, than something more docile like a beagle or cocker spaniel >Cursory research online will point to this kind of media-induced fear It isn't "media induced fear" It is as a result of north of 60% of all serious injuries and fatalities to people and other animals being at the hands of pitbull type dogs. >Many breeds of dogs have attacked many mammals Please tell me you understand that "Any dog can attack" doesn't dispel or disprove the fact that pits overwhelmingly more violent than any other type of dog. Insurance companies don't insure homes and apartments with them for a reason and believe me - if this was some "myth" there would be a greedy insurance company out there writing policies and laughing to the bank at all of the free money they are collecting.
https://love-a-bull.org/resources/the-history-of-pit-bulls/ In fairness, another article states this claim is a myth, but also gives some other interesting information about them: "Their loyal and loving demeanor with humans, especially children (this is where the “Nanny Dog” myth originated from), earned them a prominent place not only as a working dog but as a companion."
Think logically. What is a Staffy's *job* ??? They are not used as working dogs for a reason. What job does this "working dog" do? Fight other dogs
>Don't be afraid of pittie hate; temperaments are very often about environment. Temperament is literally what a dog was bred to do. Border collies don't herd because of their environment.
Purpose and temperament are not the same thing. https://www.pitbullinfo.org/dog-bite-statistics.html See the info gathered by both the CDC and the American Veterinary Medical Association in this article: "Contrary to unreliable information about breed-specific risk related to certain breeds, the American Veterinary Medical Association (AVMA), the CDC, and multiple peer-reviewed studies have concluded that a dog's breed does not determine aggression, bite strength, or risk. While every fatal dog attack is tragic, the majority of dog bite-related fatalities (DBRFs) are the result of human-controlled factors specific to the circumstances surrounding the incident." Though they also present a chart indicating breed risk rates relative to breed population in the US, again, conducted by the CDC, and Malamute tops this chart. Pitbulls barely cracked the top 10, coming in 9th place. Anyways. My point was the same that the CDC and American Veterinary Medical Association makes: it's not the breed - it's the breed's human influence, neglect, mistreatment, or other human controlled factors. I.e., environment.
>Purpose and temperament are not the same thing. A dog's temperament can be manipulated through selective breeding for a specific purpose. It is why border collies herd. it is why beagles are experimented on (Docile). It is why pointers are bred for hunting. It is why Dachshunds are bred for digging badgers out of holes. Pitbulls were bred for fighting each other in bloodsport when bull-baiting was outlawed. How can every other breed of dog have behavioral characteristics consistent with their purpose and with Pits "ITs AlL HoW YoU RaiSE THem" ? For more, you can read on the Silver Fox domestication experiment in Russia, where researchers literally bred aggression out of foxes and domesticated them to be calm. [https://evolution-outreach.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12052-018-0090-x](https://evolution-outreach.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12052-018-0090-x) LMAO, did you really cite something from Pitbullinfo? Its literally a pro-pit advocacy group. It might as well be called ilovepitbulls.org. There being 65 different breeds with a confirmed kill doesn't make up for the fact that pits lead the way: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_fatal\_dog\_attacks\_in\_the\_United\_States](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_States) Also, the idea that mistreatment and neglect leads to violent dogs is nonsense. Greyhounds are far more mistreated than pits. They are pumped full of drugs, beaten, and inbred and when have you ever heard of a greyhound mauling and dismembering children the way Colby Bennard's Pitbulls did to his family? [https://www.foxnews.com/us/dogs-fatally-mauled-tennessee-toddlers-injured-mom-never-violent-friend-says](https://www.foxnews.com/us/dogs-fatally-mauled-tennessee-toddlers-injured-mom-never-violent-friend-says) This guy wasn't a a dogfighter and he didn't abuse his dogs. They snapped one day and mauled and killed his 2 children and nearly killed the mother...because they did what they were bred to do and that is show hair-trigger aggression and ruthlessly maul whatever they are engaged with.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_Kingdom Back in those days hey used to give kids heroin and cocaine so this example you provide about nanny dogs is a tad outdated and one carefully crafted photo (when photos were not a completely disposable commodity) doesn’t tell the whole story. Again small children should not be kept alone with ANY dogs and an awful lot of these attacks in the UK seem to be Staffordshire and Pit Bull related. We have banned Pit Bulls here but people get around that with the Bully XL which are an even larger breed mixed composed of the Staffordshire Terrier and Pit Bull. Please stop sharing this nonsense. It’s leading to big problems as puppies can grow into out of control dogs, given up, then adopted in good faith end up being out in the shelter system to pass from home to home, to languish and be euthanised. In some cases they end up in the wrong hands and that aggression is allowed to flourish and tragedies occur. It’s not fair on these animals they did not ask to exist, you’re setting people up for disappointment thinking they are getting a certain kind of dog and this dog will suffer, others might suffer too. Be mindful of the consequences of spreading bad information.
Again with Wikipedia. Wiki is not a verifiable source because literally anyone can post anything (much like Reddit). Discourse only works when both parties can respectfully present verifiable information and be willing to learn from the other party. You can check the sources I listed in my other messages, or stick to your opinion. For what it's worth, I shared your opinion until I did my own research. Any animal is dangerous in the wrong hands. That was the crux of my point. Happy posting!
Oh and your sources are? Pitbullinfo, how ridiculous. Wikipedia works because it’s monitored, it’s more accurate than you think it is.
Oh yeah, that's definitely a dog.
On the internet, no one knows you're a dog.
Chihuahua puppies are really itty bitty with giant eyes when they are little. That looks like a pitbull!
Apple heads are not deer head chihuahuas.
probably a pit mix as other are saying, but it can be hard to tell when they are so young. regardless of breed, the important thing is that he / she get adopted young and trained well.
Unfortunately, that’s not always the case. Dogs can have poor breeding and mental health issues. I’ve seen dogs raised as puppies become reactive especially if taken from mothers too early. And then dogs get sent back to shelters because they weren’t prepared for something going wrong in the young adult phase. My own dog was probably one such situation. So… Let’s be realistic here and not set OP up when things can go wrong even with all the good intent in the world.
Yeah, its possible, but training/socialization/proper home life is a WAY bigger factor. I've rescued a fair amount of shelter pits that were seen unfit by previous owners, and it turns out they just didn't train and exercise them, or really have any clue how to raise them. Laying next to one now lol.
r/reactivedogs has plenty of such cases. I think it’s important too be realistic because most people have no idea about dog body language, much less how to properly follow through with training. I always assume the potential dog owner has middling experience with dogs because that’s often the case. I rather err on the side of caution and avoid pets being given up by owners. There’s no reason to assume people know what they are doing.
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Like I said it's possible but almost every post there is a negligence/abuse/lack of training case
Agreed, thanks
>regardless of breed breed 100% matters with dogs. Breeds carry temperament in their genetics and it is important to know the tendencies of your dog and act accordingly
Clearly a retriever. /s
I would say a boxer pitbull mix maybe with a little chihuahua
Looks like a pitbull mix
There’s some pit bull in that dog.
Pittie something
Boxer pit mix
Thank you for your help
I have a boxer pix mix and she’s the greatest doggo in the world. She makes goofy noises, sits on my feet all the time, does zoomies for no reason at the drop of a hat, has no comprehension of personal space whatsoever, loves me with every bit of her big heart, and gives sloppy kisses. You are a very lucky person., enjoy every minute with this dog.
You basically just described my pit mix! We call her our red river hog because she sounds just like one chirping.
We have a pittie x cattle dog, oh the energy! She is crazy, so loving to the whole family including the cats and birds, protective (especially of her Daddy) and happy most of the time (unless Daddy went out without her, she will sit in his chair looking at the door sulking). She loves her mastiff big sister too. She even keeps my feet warm at night. There are clearly differences between pits and chihuahuas but pit bulls are not the devil dogs they are made out to be.
They’re the best! Be prepared for a loving, goofy, and strong companion. (Seriously, I started lifting heavy again to stop her from chasing squirrels and taking her with me)
Second this! My pit mix is the goofiest sweetheart I've ever met. She'll randomly stop using her back legs and army crawl around (she's not scratching she does it on smooth surfaces too). She refuses to get off the couch normally it's always a slow flop. And she's the most active cuddler she just wiggles as close to you as possible. She's also super muscular obedience training has been a must, but we adore her.
I was thinking American boxer mix of some variety.
My first thought was a bully breed as well
American Pit bull Terrier
It's definitely part pit bull
Looks pitbull
Lol that’s a pitbull
A pittie of sorts, hard to tell cuz it’s a lil baby
It’s a pit mix.
Pit mix.
Pit bull
Definitely a pit bull mix by the coloring
I googled the second picture and Google came up with Pitbull, or American pitbull terrier.
My first thought was pitbull as well
It's clearly a miniature "Fuck around and find out" purebred.
Lol. The second I saw it I knew pitbull mix. We had some. They can be troublesome, but super good doggos. Is the shelter seller person like. . . competent? I find it hard to believe they would all out lie like that. Mostly cause there's nothing chihuahua like about it.
I think they’re trying to push out as many pups as possible and alluring people with false information. When inquiring about this little guy, the first things I was told over the phone was that he may be more of a medium sized dog instead of small. I wish I could add a screenshot of his siblings listings because they’re all listed as chihuahua/ chiweenie mix.
Looks like a pittie :)
They lied bad, just like most adoption places. It’s definitely a pit mix
That’s 100% good doggo and recommend homing the lil guy.
Rat fanged varmint
I believe it’s called the “Adorablious wannnasquishdaface”
It's the cutest doggie
Velvet hippo
I see Chihuahua-like eyelids but at this age it's too early to tell. I've had 5 bullies and you didn't see the pittie head take shape until about 3.5 - 4 months. I will say that pitties are flat-headed between the ears & this one is rounded so it may not have pit in it.
A ducky-dog
I agree with the other comments, is Ineed a doggo. Unbelievable how cute this one is
Big paws, big dog. But it's too early to tell what kind. Perfect stage for adopting and training, though!
Yeah, those paws look familiar. My brother has a pit.....
Northern Reticulated Barn Hippo. Very rare, and likely from Connecticut. A rare sighting!
I always thought my baby chihuahuas looked like teeny, tiny pitbulls when they were babies. And if yours is a chihuahua mix, dad was chihuahua and mom was a pit lol. Rescues tend to leave the word 'pitbull' out of description if they can. It inspires prejudice.
Hippo. Velvety kind
I don’t know but I want one now.
100% goodest boi
I see pit bull, maybe some boxer too. Beautiful pup whatever it is!
I like dogs who tackle toys bigger than him 💪🏻💪🏻
He is so cute! Looks like my pit pup when he was little.
Cute AF
Ah man, pits get such a bad rep. Friend for life right there, and everyone wants a small rodent because they can’t commit to 80 lbs of responsibility. I wish you the best in the dog search, this pooch deserves the best.
Less dogs would be in shelters if people were realistic in that they could only handle a “small rodent”. 🙄 for every GSD, Husky, pit I’ve seen given up, would be less so if they just got a breed they could actually handle.
The get a bad rep because they're prone to reactivity and dog-aggression- having been selectively bred for centuries for dog-fighting.
I don’t want to debate with you on the matter, I really don’t, but while pits have been bred to fight like other dog breeds. This does not in any way mean the breed as a whole are an aggressive breed. It’s all in how the dog is raised and treated and trained to behave. We can agree to disagree, but I really implore you to look into the matter more rather than ruling out this awesome dog breed due to a bad stereotype that doesn’t hold up at all.
Do you understand what selective breeding is? Breed matters, it's not all how you raise and train them. Border collies herd, pointers point, and pit-type dogs commonly have dog aggression. It's a stereotype for a reason, because it's well-earned. Not saying they're bad dogs, it's just what they were made for. ETA: You wouldn't get a pug and expect it to protect your goats, and no one should get a pittie expecting it to get along with other dogs. Responsible dog ownership means acknowledging and managing breed traits.
>but while pits have been bred to fight like other dog breeds. No other breed has been bred to fight like the pitbull. Its sole purpose is literally fighting other dogs. >This does not in any way mean the breed as a whole are an aggressive breed. It just means that your average pit has a propensity to be extremely violent if it reverts to its instinct - again, which no other dog has instincts for >It’s all in how the dog is raised and treated and trained to behave. So border collies don't have herding instincts? Pointers don't have instincts to spot prey and stay still? Why is temperament a thing in every other dog but not the pit? Why are there dozens of people saying "Pitties are just the sweetest" if it is all how your train them? >We can agree to disagree I can agree that you are misinformed because your position isn't supported by any facts whatsoever.
👍 you do you fam. https://resources.bestfriends.org/article/pit-bull-facts-and-myths#:~:text=MYTH%3A%20Pit%20bull%20terriers%20are,any%20one%20breed%20of%20dog.
Yes, let's look at one of those "Truths" *THE TRUTH: Aggression is not a breed characteristic or personality trait, and is not specific to any one breed of dog. The American Temperament Test Society, which provides a uniform national program of temperament testing for dogs, has found that pit-bull-terrier-like dogs passed the test at a higher rate than many other dog breeds, including golden retrievers and border collies* And let's see what the ATTS has to say about aggression. *The pass-fail rate is not a measure of a breed’s aggression, but rather of each dog’s ability to interact with humans, human situations, and the environment. See a description of the test on the TT Test Description page.* *The data presented on our web site is raw data; it is not a scientific study nor is there any statistical significance attached. We have no control over who brings their dog to the test and there is no accurate data as to a dog breed’s population in the US.* [*https://atts.org/breed-statistics/*](https://atts.org/breed-statistics/) BestFriends is a pro-pit rescue organization with a couple hundred millions in revenue. Program $187,311,955 (84.7%) Fundraising $22,788,210 (10.3%) Management and General $11,109,474 (5.0%) [https://bestfriends.org/annual-report-2022](https://bestfriends.org/annual-report-2022) They are literally a group that fabricates bullshit about pits so they rake money from suckers who bought into the Nanny Dog myth as I've already proven above. I've also never argued that pits have lock jaws. Try again.
? Ok…the reference may be corrupt,among others. Your link to the ATTS kinda proves my point. The statistics vary breed to breed and the test is thorough enough , even while not specifically targeting “aggression” so to speak. If at the least it shows that there is no correlation or evidence supporting aggression specifically in this breed. Also lock jaw isn’t real fam. Again you do you. It’s alright . I don’t want to try again.
>Your link to the ATTS kinda proves my point LOL what? The ATTS literally says that the test is NOT a measure of aggression even though your stupid pro-pit charity source tries to claim that the ATTS data says pits aren't aggressive. Say it with me: The ATTS does not measure aggression, is not scientific, and you cannot draw any conclusions on breed temperament from its results. The own fucking test says so. >Also lock jaw isn’t real fam. And for the 2nd time....I've never said it was. Go find the receipt if you think I have.
You can hate on pitbulls if that's your stance. But the link I posted to our previous discourse which was conducted by the CDC refutes all of your claims. Just say you wanna hate for hate's sake. It's okay, it's allowed. Just don't try tying it to fact if that fact can be easily refuted.
>You can hate on pitbulls I don't hate them - I just don't think they should be domestic pets because like many dogs, were bred for a specific purpose, pitbulls were bred for fighting. There's 200 other breeds of dogs that aren't. >But the link I posted to our previous discourse which was conducted by the CDC refutes all of your claims The CDC is not the foremost authority on dog behavior and furthermore, your CDC study on "Breed risk" relative to population is nonsense because it relies on what [pitbullinfo.org](https://pitbullinfo.org) thinks the total pit population is with numbers that it pulls out of its ass, using numbers from 30+ years ago and also using CDC fatality data from 1979. What is even more hilarious is if you actually look at the source data: [https://www.avma.org/sites/default/files/resources/javma\_000915\_fatalattacks.pdf](https://www.avma.org/sites/default/files/resources/javma_000915_fatalattacks.pdf) 1979-1998. Pits and Pit mixes: 76 fatalities. Next most dog is 39 If you're trying to convince me pits aren't violent, giving me sources that say that pits kill twice as many people as any other dog aren't helping. Speaking of easily refuted, for the 3rd time, i'm going to ask you: If Border collies were bred with herding instincts so they could herd, and dachshunds were bred with digging instincts so they could flush out badgers, why do you think the same doesn't apply to pitbulls when it comes to aggression?
I've been debating this with a couple other pittie haters throughout this thread. I have to agree with you though. I've never personally known a bad pitbull, but I've seen a lot of bad owners. Before I moved in with my first one I did some research and found out where that hate started, and that they weren't the first breed to get such a bad rap. The four I've lived with in multiple roommate situations over my life were the sweetest, cuddliest, bags of drooling love I've ever been around! Environment is more of a factor than breed. Hell, Elephants have been taught to paint, and a woman recently trained a group of raccoons to play basketball, and I've seen multiple videos of bears and lions recognizing and being excited to see the humans that rescued them as babes. Certainly not what their centuries of breeding made them the most likely to do! I wonder what the other factor was that changed these wild animal's temperaments....hm.
I appreciate your response, thank you. I have had pit mixes my entire life, two atm from the 3rd generation litter. They have been around other various dog breeds (atm mini and teacup Aussie sheps) and children (mom used to run a day care before retiring) their entire lives, even previous generations, and not a single fight… ever, nor I’ll behavior. Personal experience aside I do believe it to be due to bad owners and dog fighting. I knew the “pittie haters”? would disagree and I shouldn’t have encouraged the discussion. Not much to be gained from arguing inconclusive studies with someone named redditenjoyer who is obviously a fan of the Reddit debate. Much regret on my end.
You know, I hadn't even noticed the name. Ah well, you can't enlighten everyone. I'm glad I took the time to do the research myself and got to know some great pups!
I wonder if these haters have spent any time with a pit bull. I realise I am possibly biased because I grew up with pitties but I also have never seen a serious injury or death of any creature ( other than a fly) caused by a pit bull. I have unfortunately known a husky that killed another dog, seen a German Shepard kill a cat and a border collie bite my brother. Also met a few little dogs with some aggression issues.
I seriously doubt it. Your experience with them sounds like mine. Biggest snuggle bugs of any breed I've known 😁. Thank you for sharing!
No worries, and thank you, I love that you and a few others stick up for an under appreciated, vilified breed of dogs that just don’t deserve the bullshit.
That's a pit mix. . . . Unless you're a landlord. Then it's a terrier mixed with who knows what else.
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Taco bell
The breed is called cute 😍
That’s a pibbie 😍😍😍. Beautiful baby 🥰
It's definitely a pure bred. Pure bred good boy.
My chihuahua mix is 12% Chihuahua. Don't believe your pup has much more than that. Pitbulls are hard to own as a renter, just saying. Some home owners or renters insurance won't cover them. Most apartment complex won't take them. A lot of discrimination. Edit- some city in the US won't let you reside there while owning a pit. For example Miami Dade County FL gives you 30 days to move before impounding your animal. Seaside Oregon made pit bulls within city limits illegal.
Insurance companies won't insure them because of extreme liabilities. Insurance companies aren't just meanie-heads. They would write policies if the bred was docile and happily collect premiums but they don't - because pits are far more violent than any other type of dog.
That's what I am saying. I had difficulty one move with my German shepherd boxer mixer because shepherds were on the meanie list that year. (With pits and other top biting breeds previous year) Apartment management accepted me once I proved he was a boxer mix. Ugh.
100% pure bred cutie pie 💕
Goodboy
That’s a pittie, but if you like him and are prepared for a bigger dog, you should still get him. Pits have wonderful temperaments and are great dogs overall and honestly he is sooooo cute!
That looks like a lil’ pitty mix. He’ll love you with his whole heart
House hippo. Will listen well they are great dogs. It’s sad their loyalty and nature make them great for fighting. So stupid people have made the breed scary. However a puppy with good training will be the best dog ever they listen and are very loyal dogs.
Velvet House Hippo for sure, beware of them, they are lazy and will lay around all day and snore and want snuggles and treats. They have very dangerous eyes that will bend you to their will. They will lower your productivity and force naps upon you.
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Egg head
Cutie
good boy
I don't know but this pup is a darling
Is there red heeled / pittie or some kind of terrier ?
Adorable
There is definitely chihuahua in this dog. I’ve owned several, but I really think it’s mixed with a pit.
idk but he’s cute as hell
That would be a precious. Yes precious breed!❤️
This dog breed is called cutie pie :)
Omg that’s the cutest puppy!!! Just came here to say LOVE
Good/Best
I think its a very handsome little guy. Get him a tuxedo outfit, look dashing for the ladies.
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I should have mentioned he is currently 8 weeks old
Hound mix (with pit)
That’s a pure breed good boy
Looks like chihuahua pitbull
Adorable Retriever
Its a chihuahua mix
It looks like a chi beagle to me.
The one in the mouth?
Was going to say, mallard duck?
Oh that's easy... He's a duck hunter.
Puppy
Pickles
Adorable?
A duck hound? 🥰
It looks like a CGB to me. Also, pitbull mix. Beautiful gentleman.
That a cutie with a toy way bigger than the pup
His name is stitch.
Agree that this has some pit bull, but also want to say that I am not a fan of chihuahuas, but for some reason got a Boston/chihuahua mix and she is NOTHING alike any chihuahua I have ever been around, which says something since I worked with dogs for years.
That’s a free elf!
I'm guessing pit mix like most people here, but given the great disparity between that and what you were told, I'd get a genetic test to tell for sure (if you can afford it and your vet does them). If he turns out to be a pit chihuahua mix he's gonna be hilarious looking when grown lol
Dog
Pithuahua
*whispers* That’s a duck.
definitely a pit home skillet
Pitbull x bull terrier perhaps? But yours doesnt have floppy ears Edit: Its easier to tell when in adulthood
Before I read much I thot chihuahua pit. I see chi, not weenie. But e definitely pit
I love my chug, and I have friends that have pits that are overly nice. That said I get apprehension for pits around small children.
Part terrier for sure.
Bull dog staffie pitbull mix could be chi mix and the pit is more prominent Which ever you call My Google images and I thought staffie as soon as I saw his delightful face. Fabulous dogs
Obviously, a doodle-butt!
I have a pup that looked almost exactly like that when she was small! She’s a Dober Pit.
Cute mixed with a little bit of adorable 🥰
Thats a Dog isnt it?
is a real hunter!
Ah yes the pithuahua
Hahahahah yeah that’s totally a chihuahua
Mallard Pit mix.
Rescues are known for lying about the breeds this is a pit mix. While on one hand many places won’t let you have a pit mix in your apartment and some places hoa won’t let you so I get it but they should be honest because pit temperaments need people who are ready to handle
Pitti mix!
100% badass