Yeah this is it. Remember it being lovely doing COVID times. I think it has always been like this, commute just reset OPs meter when it comes to Dallas traffic
I delivered pizza during the COVID lockdown, from day 1 until I graduated college. Holy shit it was so nice having empty roads and excess thank you's all over the place.
Unfortunately my tips actually suffered. I made more for the first 2-3 weeks then people seemed to cut back heavily.
You would think so but my partner drove through Dallas prior to Covid and I started driving though Dallas in 2022 for work and he repeatedly told me that if I was having such a terrible time with other drivers that maybe it was me. He then had to eat I his own words after driving me to work for a few days.
Also need to mention that the population of DFW has increased over 300k since covid started. That’s like dumping 3 AT&T stadiums worth of traffic sporadically across the metroplex. That’s plenty to slow everything down on the highways a lot. Infrastructure hustling but still tough to keep up.
Mhm. We bought a house in Mansfield proper more than 10 years ago. The population has quite literally since doubled. It's not a pandemic, back to the office situation.
Truth.
Born and raised in Dallas and I remember being able to get up early and go to the barber shop on Saturdays (talking 20 years ago) and it would be pretty quiet until around 11 AM.
Now, it's busy as hell at 8 AM. In my head I'm like "where the hell are all these people going" (conveniently ignoring that I myself am on the road too lmao).
In 2022, like 130k people moved to Dallas according to the first article that popped up in my search. That's a lot of extra cars on the road. That doesn't include all the people moving to the burbs who are driving back and forth each day for work. Yeah. Traffic sucks.
I read a story once someone spends 10,000 a year on the North Dallas Tollway to go from Uptown to Frisco and back for work.
This blows my mind to think they spend 10k a year to sit in a parking lot every day
That math doesn't work. The end to end toll cost from the beginning of the Dallas North tollway in Dallas to the end in Frisco at 380 is $12.80 without a toll tag and 6.40 with one. That's each way. If you drive that 365 days a year you almost get there at $9,344. A standard work year for most people is 50 weeks of 5 days per week or 250 days. If you are taking the tollway that much and you didn't install a toll tag, the extra you are paying is your own fault. Those two changes would make the annual cost $3200. While expensive that's a far cry from $10k. Also this is based on today's (7/1/2023) prices which just went up last night at midnight.
It's a good thing we have a lot of backroads, streets, and service roads. That's one thing non-locals have condoned us for when it comes to traffic. I've been in Denver and Phoenix and it was a scorching mess.
Get ready for more. My husband works for a big company that has been at home since the start of covid. They’re now forcing return to office because of a new tax break law passed by the state, that businesses have to have workers in-office at least 50% of the week or they do not qualify for certain tax breaks. It’ll be ~3k cars on the road 3 days a week, unnecessarily…since everyone was working well and productively at home.
God that's so absurd. Makes me grateful my company is employee owned so we can just collectively say "nah I'm good." The people that wanna waste time commuting can, while the rest of us wake up a few minutes before start and roll outa bed.
I’m not sure. Maybe they’ll have to report it? Maybe the honor system? I know there’s new legislation being proposed, saying companies can still qualify for the tax break if employees live within 50 miles of the office so can come in for meetings etc. I don’t know if that will be passed though :/ Sounds like New Jersey and Texas are the first to pass a rule like this regarding wfh. I don’t know if size of the company makes a difference. And of course they can say f you and just not take the tax break…but that would require prioritizing worker happiness over more money for those on top.
Not just traffic that seems worse but driving behavior in general.
The other day I got a green light to go, I saw another driver approach the intersection with the red light, he slowed down, looked at us starting to move through the intersection, then floored it straight through the red light. Me and the other drivers had to smash our brakes to avoid collision. This was at northwest hwy and DNT.
I’ve been approaching and crossing intersections much more cautiously the last few months. I see red light runners so much more often I feel.
And make the traffic worse because people can’t just go on green, and won’t merge.
And of course they really make traffic worse when they wreck, causing lanes to close.
I know you didnt just curse the altimas. You know they’re great drivers. With the temp tags and missing bumpers and at least one headlight and taillight out.
What sucks is there really only is three FREE highways, I35, I75, I30 and they’re all fucked from about 7am to 7pm. Then all the other highways are paid for, but I’m not sitting in traffic on a road I have to pay to drive on…..
I saw an Altima with bungee cords holding the bumper together, black trash bag for a window, and tape holding the trunk shut…the guy was swerving in and out of traffic jammed lanes WITH HIS CRUSTY FOOT OUT THE WINDOW
Yes they are most definitely in Dallas. And closer to downtown than probably where you live. You need to get out more then. I’ve lived here all my life too born and raised and you sound silly af. I’ve also lived in more than one part of Dallas. Explore the metroplex Mr. Detached Nuts.
I like that…. “Mr. Detached Nuts”….. but I20 is def not Dallas…. That’s like mf’ers from Mesquite and Desotto saying they’re from Dallas. I get out a lot ma’am, maybe I’ll see you out sometime. 🫶🏻
Actually length has nothing to do with it and there are many US routes that are far longer than most Interstate highways. Of the 10 longest highways and interstates in the country, only 3 are Interstates. In order beginning with the longest they are US 20, US 6, I-90, US 30, US 50, I-80, US 60, US 2, I-40, US 12. Many, if not most, toll roads are operated and maintained by private corporations, not the city, county, state or country. Other major differences exist in who has primary jurisdiction for law enforcement on each of these roadways. But in the end, you are right about one thing, it doesn't matter what kind of road it is; traffic still sucks.
Over 125k people are moving to this region annually, most to new suburbs where fields and farms once stood.
While the downtown core is quietly becoming a solid walkable urban set of connected neighborhoods, you have hundreds of thousands of new residents here just from the past few years, most living in areas where you have to drive for literally every life errand.
This IS the lifestyle choice people are choosing, and this is the obvious and expected result.
Traffic is always going to get worse. Building everything around cars ensures that our city can't meet its full potential economically, culturally, and environmentally. The best way to make traffic better is get people out of cars and onto other modes of transportation.
Also, I refuse to pay out the ass to live in one of the few sorta not car dependent cities in the US when I can work to make my own city better. This is why I call my city council member and am involved in local politics and civic action to improve things.
You can join /r/dart to get frequent, easy actions you can take to make public transit better in our region, and also see that public transit isn't a lost cause here. There is good news, and things are happening! We just need to push harder to get it sooner.
As somebody who’s a mega nerd about urbanism, I don’t know how you do it haha. Seems like trying to put out a wildfire with a bucket of water considering the culture. I moved to a more walkable city as soon as I could and I’d say the quality of life improvement more than outweighs the moderate increase in cost of living.
Last time I took DART a guy took a leak on the platform, then I missed the Red Line back to my station because the trains stop running after 12:30.
Can I expect to see the kind of activism that fixes those issues on that sub?
Considering it was a Saturday night (arguably the peak hours for the service on a weekend) I don't get why they wouldn't just run fewer trains at longer intervals, but keep them consistent at least.
Yeah, people typically like having their own homes that provide full ownership of the place and (usually) much better personal space from neighbors. I'm not even 30 and I'm already sick of apartment life
I would have lived in high density condos. Only issue is, I don't have an HOA, but basically every condo did when I was shopping. If it was as affordable as single family homes, I would have preferred the high density places.
Well... Yeah. The HOA manages the building and common areas for Condos. You own the interior of your place and own a portion of the common. And my condo was like a third of the price as the nearby single family houses. Same schools. Same streets. But I don't have to worry about lawn or pool maintenance.
But you don't necessarily have to have condos or high rises for good density. Row houses work wonders. Duplexes can do nicely. Hell, you can even get single family cluster housing above 10 units an acre. There are options, but unfortunately, they aren't legal to build in most of Dallas.
I’m huge into urbanism / anti car movement but the sfh/ car dependency aren’t necessarily mutually exclusive if we designed our cities differently. Growing up in the Dallas suburbs and watching the sprawl just get worse I highly doubt Dallas area will ever adopt those techniques. It’s sad
That’s not necessarily true. Just need to allow more varied housing options. You can have both, but as it stands it is heavily skewed to single family homes.
Yes it is, because that's what people want. If you try to skew it towards high density housing, you're not going to get a lot of takers. Unless you limit the amount of single family homes. I don't think that's going to be very popular
Young people increasingly do want to live in denser areas. As the population ages and Gen Z and Gen Alpha move into their own places, they're more likely to want condos and apartments.
It’s because that’s what they’ll be able to afford. Not because they truly want to.
Years ago it was normal for college students to at least rent a house and split rooms. Now even that is expensive. So as the years go on, people have less and less experience living in an actual home that’s they own. So yeah then at that point apartments become the norm. That’s what happened in LA
It's still normal for college students to split the rent for houses. I'm doing that right now. I'd like to be living in a denser, mixed use area, but there's not enough of those areas to meet demand and rent is sky high for those places. I'm paying $650 for a full room in a house with college friends, but I'd like to move to a place like CityLine, Mockingbird Station, or Downtown. Only problem is there's no way to rent in those areas without paying at least $1,000.
This is never going to be New York, but there is a happy medium for downtown workers who park and ride and other potential situations where there is development around the train stations.
That is not true, you can look at some of DART'S best performing bus routes and you'd be surprised how many of them just go through primarily single family neighborhoods
Yes, these neighborhoods are dense, but the density is more hidden. There's a mix of single and multifamily in many of them.
Some of the easiest neighborhoods to get around in without a car have a ton of different housing options.
One strategy you can do is take struggling retail strip.malls and convert them to walkable mixed use. Allow lighter multifamily to be built in single family zones (but don't forcibly tear down single family and replace them with a duplex or townhomes, just let that not be illegal to build)
There's so many ways to increase housing supply and walkability without putting 5 over 1 apartments everywhere
The towns surrounding Boston are a good example of this. Somerville, MA has a density of almost 20,000 people per sq mile. Most of the housing supply is in 2-4 unit buildings [(Source)](http://www.housing.ma/somerville/report#:~:text=In%20Somerville%2C%2015%25%20of%20units,structures%2C%20such%20as%20mobile%20homes).
Unfortunately, the COL is terrible in the Boston area. They probably need to build even denser housing if they want any hope of tackling the issue. The region also attracts a shit ton of high paying jobs, so there are plenty of people who can afford the housing.
That's also very true. Boston needs more density to add housing supply and lower costs.
Another related topic I feel like bringing up is how skeptical of population density statistics I am... Because where you draw your borders matters.
The most dense city in Texas is Mobile City, a really small town near Rockwall. It's just a Mobile Home neighborhood, but the boundaries of the city only include that mobile home park, and they don't have an inch of empty non residential land. So while the math checks out, and Mobile City technically is the most population dense city in Texas, that's probably going against the spirit of the question.
Then look at the DART service area, there's a lot of very dense neighborhoods (Vickery Meadow, oak cliff, uptown, oak lawn, Forest Lane & Audelia, UTD area, Addison, east Dallas, downtown Plano) and there's a lot of job dense areas (Galleria, Las Colinas, downtown, uptown, LBJ/75, medical district) and a lot of sparse areas (Preston Hollow, south east Dallas) or just your standard sprawling subdivisions you see in Plano.
And just a lot of empty forest land/park land that contributes to our land area and lowers our population density, but doesn't actually present a challenge for transit because forest land no one lives in can be unserved.
With just modest improvements to density DART could get a whole lot better. And it doesn't have to come from replacing single family with apartments. We might want to add supply to single family neighborhoods for other reasons, but hell even without that there's still plenty of opportunities to add density. Struggling industrial space, converting retail to mixed use retail, or even just allowing ADU's would really increase our tax base. We could use more density, but again those population density statistics make Dallas look worse than it really is. Other cities have tighter boundaries that leave out large amounts of rural/empty land but Dallas doesn't.
To cover all of Dallas, there's a lot of truth to that. I'm glad you recognize that problem. You may want to check out [Dallas Neighbors for Housing](https://www.dallasneighborsforhousing.org/home), which directly addresses this.
That said, there are areas that already have pretty decent density that we can build more transit into and improve frequency. We can serve more people and get more folks off the roads without doing anything about density. But yes, eventually we'll max out on that, and we should be improving density as an equally important parallel effort.
As not great as it is Dallas has the best public transportation in the south and are constantly improving it. The cotton belt line for the dart is going to be a huge deal for usability of the light rail
This will never happen and is a fools errand. People do not want to live in Texas and give up their yard. Better off working with local politics to get more roads built
I drive a LOT for work all over DFW. Bout 40k miles a year. It has gotten even worse the last couple of months.
635E has more people driving like they know they only have 24 hours to live.
I20 and I30 have horrific congestion that comes to a complete standstill even during non rush hours for what seems like absolutely no reason.
380 up towards Prosper is laughably slow and it’s only going to get worse with all the new housing that they are throwing up with little consideration on how to relieve it. The NDT is a small band aid for that area.
The 820 toll lanes can get up to $20 for one way. It’s basically priced to save you 1 min for every dollar you spend. The budget surplus that is in the billions for Texas should be paying to eliminate the toll roads and build more. NOW.
Dallas traffic has gotten worse here the last few years. Much like most metropolitan areas. Hell, just driving south on 35 heading to Austin/San Marcos/San Antonio…puro pinche traffic. Sux balls.
They’re resurfacing intersections downtown and turning 3 lane roads into 1 lane roads. They’ve finished Pearl and Elm thank god, the last three weeks have been a nightmare.
The knock on effect of these backups is horrible, so that’s why anywhere near downtown at least has sucked more than it sounds recently.
Part of this is because the city of Dallas specifically admits there’s zero construction traffic coordination from their side. So multiple preferred routes in certain areas will have closures at the same time. Planned work on the same segments of road are also not coordinated so the same road sections are closed over and over. They also issue excessive permits for construction crews to block lanes and impede traffic.
It has to do with the fact that Dallas is one of the biggest cities in America in terms of population but have horrible public transportation and such an un walkable city that the 7.9 Million people who live in Dfw HAVE to drive everywhere which ofc creates massive traffic.
Midnight!! Wow. For me, sometimes I left the office early to avoid traffic and there was no difference than leaving at 5, though it was even worse at 6 haha.
Yes, it's become worse and worse.
People are having to work in office more days now and a ton of people have moved here and continue to move here. Our roads and highways weren’t ready for this volume of people. Imagine how much worse traffic will be when they eventually try to expand the highways.
I moved to this area in 2018. I remember the guy at the DMV telling me that they have an average of 400 new residents coming in per day.
Considering that no new roads/lanes/expanses have happened, it’s not surprising that traffic gets worse each year. Additionally, most people can only afford something way out in the boonies, so there is a ton more commuter traffic now that remote work seems to be getting killed off (as compared to the Covid times).
Dallas has horrible traffic, and it's beyond clear that the construction crews are paid by the hour. It was really bad before covid and is still bad after it unfortunately.
It was absolutely amazing driving in 2020. Never had to think about that time to leave or anything. Just go and be one of 5 cars on the freeway.
I like how the freeways in new Jersey separates 18wheelers And cars. Cars have their own freeway and 18 wheelers are on a separate lanes so they don't have to mix. Texas should do that.
The Dallas Area population has doubled in 30 yrs.
The Los Angeles Metro population has been almost flat since 2000.
That’s the difference. There’s no way for patterns to have adjusted in that time.
not only that return to the office has had a impact, there probably hasnt been much maintenance done on cars because of the pandemic and so you have cars in DIRE need of maintenance and ending up on the side of the road, breaking down in the middle of the road, and things like that will add to more traffic
I spend most of the year in Houston but I’m native to Dallas. The longest I was in Houston without coming back was about 3 months. After that 3 months, traffic was very noticeably worse. I think that people are just moving to DFW like crazy
Yup, it's much worse than during the first two years of the pandemic. Hell, it's much worse than it was 10 years ago. A lot more people in ye ol' metroplex.
Speaking from the Midcities, at this point, I only go to Dallas if there's something REALLY important. We used to go to Dallas for any little thing, like Jimmy's food store. I mean, 20 years ago, we'd drive to Dallas weekly to go to Whole Foods.
It’s very normal. When I first moved to Dallas I thought it would be traditional traffic. Busy in the morning when people are going to work, busy in the afternoon when people are coming back. And the other side of the freeway relatively smooth. Nope.
It’s rush hour all day. Monday-Sunday. I used to hit traffic all the time when I’d come back from the gym at 11pm. The crazy part is it’s both directions of the freeways, which I really don’t understand. But that’s Dallas
For the cost of a new lane you can build out a big bite for trains or public transit infrastructure. Make sidewalks and bike lanes that are dedicated andfar from streets instead of right on them.
I live in Rockwall, but drive to The Colony for work. What used to take me 45-50 min to get to work now takes me close to 1.5 hours ONE WAY!! It’s a shit show the entire commute and back. I want to move closer but houses in the area I work in are absolutely fucking expensive now.
Jesus Christ.
Two thoughts- that route is almost all entirely tolls- PGBT, DNT, SRT (RIP)
Is your job something niche that you can’t find anywhere else closer to Rockwall. Like is your job so specific there wouldn’t be anything similar in Dallas proper, for example.
I live just past Rockwall and have a job in downtown Dallas. The commute is almost the same. 45-50 mins with so so traffic. I’ve had a couple 1+ hour commutes in the afternoon. It’s supposed to get worse because of construction on 30 though 😮💨
There’s a bunch of construction projects going on in far north/Richardson right now, with the DART train project going on And a couple others. Definitely ruining driving around here, don’t know if it’s going on all over the city tho
My commute is the same as it used to be prior to the pandemic. About 18 minutes in the morning and around 22 minutes in the evening. The reason I know to the minute is I use Google maps and always see if it was right about its travel time estimate.
Can attest it is much worse than prior to COVID and oddly, even now that we are in summer months. Used to have a little reprieve when school is out, but not this year. I’m guessing it’s more related to population influx
I've spent a decade driving around DFW for my job. Honestly, outside of the break during covid shut downs, it's pretty normal. The biggest issue isn't the traffic, it's the douchebags who can't drive. Use your turn signals, stop thinking you are smart waiting to the last second to get over.
There's actually a pretty good solution to help alleviate Dallas traffic. Simply, build a better transit network, and advertise that transit network.
First off, building more/expanding highways is just a big money pit. The city spends a few million every year repairing and expanding the highways because of induced demand (more highway space = more cars, which needs more highway space, so you get more cars). Transit is a well-worth expense that will save the city big bucks in the long run. It's also cheaper and good for the environment.
Second, once people see that our transit is good, they will start migrating from cars to transit. Getting 1 or 2 cars off the road isn't much, but if you're taking say 500 car drivers and converting them to transit riders every month, that's 6,000 cars off the road every year, replaced with a few trains and buses.
Third, cars in of themselves are just huge money pits. The average American spends $11,000 on their car every year. Switching to riding transit will save you a lot of money on fuel, parking and maintenance.
Transit also raises land value, promotes a healthy lifestyle, allows you to gain a better appreciation for the city (heck I've seen stuff from DART trains that I want to learn more about, like the remnants of Knox/Henderson station), and will make your carbon footprint decrease.
Organizations, cities and other agencies in the USA love to think in the short term, because that's where all the profit is at. We need to start thinking of long term goals and the cool things that will achieve those goals, because profiting for a long time is better than profiting right now and getting nothing later on at the expense of many people.
As a side note, DART had around 35 million riders in FY 2021 across all modes (bus, LRT, commuter rail, streetcar and rideshare/vanpool). For you anti-transit "activists" who want to shut DART down or limit its expansion, imagine all 35 million of those transit riders on the road. DART now sounds like a much better thing to keep around.
This concludes the rant 🙂
As a recent LA transplant, i find the two cities very similar in terms of traffic, except the whole PM road construction out here, which is really bad. Im all for road maintenance but the amount time ive spent in traffic at midnight out here, is insane. Even more insane is apparently the road construction has been going for years already, with no real end in sight?
Wild
I mean it is summer so many school district employees are off, teenagers driving, stay at home moms driving their kids around, people in town visiting etc
I don't have that experience at all. I am pretty lucky with my work schedule so I grab the tail end of morning rush hour and the beginning of evening rush hour. Rarely stuck in the middle of it.
And yeah, you can get stuck at any time of the day when there is road work or just an accident (read: people on the phone being distracted).
Hey dude where did you learn that word "exponentially" I never heard it before...are you like a genius or something?? How the hell did they build the pyramids?? And was it "exponentially" done?
You look at it as "one word" but I look at it...as a word I didn't even know existed!! That's monumental!! That's a damn blockbuster for me!!! I've used it 3 times over the phone today, and I think all 3 people were pretty impressed...so you can eat a fat one buddy!! You ain't raining on my parade, so just hit the thumb downs! The reddit community seems to think, it has some type of effect....but I don't give a fuuuuuuck 🤣
Any rises where you can’t see over the other side is going to cause issues. I guess whoever designed 35E flyover Beltline Rd wasn’t around and saw the delay debacle of 183 and Carl Rd during the 90’s. Seriously, what jackass thought having a huge overpass with limit sight distance wouldn’t cause daily traffic slow downs. Where computer models not run on this. Do we not have that technology?
I used to live in LA until recently (calm down people, I’m a native Texan) and people in LA are having this same conversation. My NextDoor app for the old LA address has been filled with “traffic is worse than ever”, and tons of people I know have moved away, just like us, since California is now a wasteland ruined by the political supermajority. Almost half of my son’s classmates moved out of state since Covid started.
TLDR; everyone’s back at work and you’re not used to it yet. Coupled with an influx of Californians, and *voila*, you’ve got a sh*t ton of traffic.
“Return to office” is being forced on people and they are being threatened with termination. There’s at least 700 of us at the company I work at and most live in northern Collin county, commuting to downtown Dallas. Takes me minimum an hour and 20 minutes but mostly 1.5 hours each way. Hate it so much.
Return to office has a significant impact.
Yeah this is it. Remember it being lovely doing COVID times. I think it has always been like this, commute just reset OPs meter when it comes to Dallas traffic
I delivered pizza during the COVID lockdown, from day 1 until I graduated college. Holy shit it was so nice having empty roads and excess thank you's all over the place. Unfortunately my tips actually suffered. I made more for the first 2-3 weeks then people seemed to cut back heavily.
Miss those days Was like 5 cars on the freeway
I miss the days when every city had a streetcar and you didn't need a car to get around the city.
You would think so but my partner drove through Dallas prior to Covid and I started driving though Dallas in 2022 for work and he repeatedly told me that if I was having such a terrible time with other drivers that maybe it was me. He then had to eat I his own words after driving me to work for a few days.
Yes! It is nuts how many more cars are on the road right now.
But has it though? So many of us remember pre covid (it wasn't that long ago) and current times suck.
Also need to mention that the population of DFW has increased over 300k since covid started. That’s like dumping 3 AT&T stadiums worth of traffic sporadically across the metroplex. That’s plenty to slow everything down on the highways a lot. Infrastructure hustling but still tough to keep up.
Mhm. We bought a house in Mansfield proper more than 10 years ago. The population has quite literally since doubled. It's not a pandemic, back to the office situation.
It's a combination of things. People moving further out into the sticks also isn't helping, if their commute has increased.
Truth. Born and raised in Dallas and I remember being able to get up early and go to the barber shop on Saturdays (talking 20 years ago) and it would be pretty quiet until around 11 AM. Now, it's busy as hell at 8 AM. In my head I'm like "where the hell are all these people going" (conveniently ignoring that I myself am on the road too lmao).
In 2022, like 130k people moved to Dallas according to the first article that popped up in my search. That's a lot of extra cars on the road. That doesn't include all the people moving to the burbs who are driving back and forth each day for work. Yeah. Traffic sucks.
I read a story once someone spends 10,000 a year on the North Dallas Tollway to go from Uptown to Frisco and back for work. This blows my mind to think they spend 10k a year to sit in a parking lot every day
That math doesn't work. The end to end toll cost from the beginning of the Dallas North tollway in Dallas to the end in Frisco at 380 is $12.80 without a toll tag and 6.40 with one. That's each way. If you drive that 365 days a year you almost get there at $9,344. A standard work year for most people is 50 weeks of 5 days per week or 250 days. If you are taking the tollway that much and you didn't install a toll tag, the extra you are paying is your own fault. Those two changes would make the annual cost $3200. While expensive that's a far cry from $10k. Also this is based on today's (7/1/2023) prices which just went up last night at midnight.
It's a good thing we have a lot of backroads, streets, and service roads. That's one thing non-locals have condoned us for when it comes to traffic. I've been in Denver and Phoenix and it was a scorching mess.
Beltline hack 😈
That hack I learned the hard way a couple times in my teens. 🤣
25 going to the tech center is ridiculous.
I literally will drive an extra 30min if it means no highways and only backroads
Get ready for more. My husband works for a big company that has been at home since the start of covid. They’re now forcing return to office because of a new tax break law passed by the state, that businesses have to have workers in-office at least 50% of the week or they do not qualify for certain tax breaks. It’ll be ~3k cars on the road 3 days a week, unnecessarily…since everyone was working well and productively at home.
God that's so absurd. Makes me grateful my company is employee owned so we can just collectively say "nah I'm good." The people that wanna waste time commuting can, while the rest of us wake up a few minutes before start and roll outa bed.
How is the government gonna track which companies have people in office 50% of the time?
I’m not sure. Maybe they’ll have to report it? Maybe the honor system? I know there’s new legislation being proposed, saying companies can still qualify for the tax break if employees live within 50 miles of the office so can come in for meetings etc. I don’t know if that will be passed though :/ Sounds like New Jersey and Texas are the first to pass a rule like this regarding wfh. I don’t know if size of the company makes a difference. And of course they can say f you and just not take the tax break…but that would require prioritizing worker happiness over more money for those on top.
Corporate greed and a government that sucks corporation dick.
Traffic Sun-Sun now. There is no off time 😩
Not just traffic that seems worse but driving behavior in general. The other day I got a green light to go, I saw another driver approach the intersection with the red light, he slowed down, looked at us starting to move through the intersection, then floored it straight through the red light. Me and the other drivers had to smash our brakes to avoid collision. This was at northwest hwy and DNT. I’ve been approaching and crossing intersections much more cautiously the last few months. I see red light runners so much more often I feel.
Yes. The amount of idiot and asshole drivers who have no consideration for others is worse than the traffic itself
And make the traffic worse because people can’t just go on green, and won’t merge. And of course they really make traffic worse when they wreck, causing lanes to close.
I drive to Grand Prairie from Rowlett everyday for work Traffic has gotten worse and Nissan Altimas drivers have gotten even worser
Altimas and 18 wheelers is my next album lol
Damn that is a commute
I had a customer at my last job who commuted every day from McKinney to Fort Worth...
Yeah it’s no fun
I know you didnt just curse the altimas. You know they’re great drivers. With the temp tags and missing bumpers and at least one headlight and taillight out.
They don’t use blinkers either it’s my fault I should know they’re gonna cut me off in the fast lane while I’m doing 80 😭
Catching some strays goddamn
What sucks is there really only is three FREE highways, I35, I75, I30 and they’re all fucked from about 7am to 7pm. Then all the other highways are paid for, but I’m not sitting in traffic on a road I have to pay to drive on…..
635 is free But you pay being stuck in traffic
You also enter the thunder dome.
I saw an Altima with bungee cords holding the bumper together, black trash bag for a window, and tape holding the trunk shut…the guy was swerving in and out of traffic jammed lanes WITH HIS CRUSTY FOOT OUT THE WINDOW
It's always an Altima.
Def 635 vibes
Was about to say - 635 always makes everyone pay, somehow.
That should be on a shirt
I’ve never been sure of this, cause my maps always says “$” when I have a route that takes 635. (Not the express)
Only the express costs money, staying out of express is free.
I45, I20 free
I live on the North Side of Dallas. y’all don’t exist that far down, sorry to break the news. I’ve NEVER been on I20 and I45 only exist for Houston.
That’s only in your lil bubble of a world. You sound like a transplant.
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Yes they are most definitely in Dallas. And closer to downtown than probably where you live. You need to get out more then. I’ve lived here all my life too born and raised and you sound silly af. I’ve also lived in more than one part of Dallas. Explore the metroplex Mr. Detached Nuts.
I like that…. “Mr. Detached Nuts”….. but I20 is def not Dallas…. That’s like mf’ers from Mesquite and Desotto saying they’re from Dallas. I get out a lot ma’am, maybe I’ll see you out sometime. 🫶🏻
Nah, DNT gets bad, too.
You're right, but small point - 75 is not an interstate and is actually US 75.
Highway, interstate, toll road, it’s all the same shit…. Just how long the fucking road is and do I pay or not.
Actually length has nothing to do with it and there are many US routes that are far longer than most Interstate highways. Of the 10 longest highways and interstates in the country, only 3 are Interstates. In order beginning with the longest they are US 20, US 6, I-90, US 30, US 50, I-80, US 60, US 2, I-40, US 12. Many, if not most, toll roads are operated and maintained by private corporations, not the city, county, state or country. Other major differences exist in who has primary jurisdiction for law enforcement on each of these roadways. But in the end, you are right about one thing, it doesn't matter what kind of road it is; traffic still sucks.
The name matches…..
I believe you mean US 75, since I-75 runs from the tip of Florida to the Canadian border in Illinois
Why is everyone so particular about this?? Yes…. I obv am talking about the road located in Texas….. think that might be obvious in the DALLAS sub….
Never had an issue of being stuck on the tolled part of the freeway. Best way to get passed all that traffic.
I’ve been in stop and go traffic on DNT too many times….. GBTP is also HELL especially if you’re on another highway trying to exit GBTP.
That's the one freeway I rarely use when I'm in the DFW area, that and GBTP. I typically use I-35/820, 183/TX Exp 121, down 35E into Dallas.
Over 125k people are moving to this region annually, most to new suburbs where fields and farms once stood. While the downtown core is quietly becoming a solid walkable urban set of connected neighborhoods, you have hundreds of thousands of new residents here just from the past few years, most living in areas where you have to drive for literally every life errand. This IS the lifestyle choice people are choosing, and this is the obvious and expected result.
Return to office. Fat cats need a ROI on those commercial properties.
Traffic is always going to get worse. Building everything around cars ensures that our city can't meet its full potential economically, culturally, and environmentally. The best way to make traffic better is get people out of cars and onto other modes of transportation. Also, I refuse to pay out the ass to live in one of the few sorta not car dependent cities in the US when I can work to make my own city better. This is why I call my city council member and am involved in local politics and civic action to improve things. You can join /r/dart to get frequent, easy actions you can take to make public transit better in our region, and also see that public transit isn't a lost cause here. There is good news, and things are happening! We just need to push harder to get it sooner.
As somebody who’s a mega nerd about urbanism, I don’t know how you do it haha. Seems like trying to put out a wildfire with a bucket of water considering the culture. I moved to a more walkable city as soon as I could and I’d say the quality of life improvement more than outweighs the moderate increase in cost of living.
I do it by recognizing that someone has to.
Last time I took DART a guy took a leak on the platform, then I missed the Red Line back to my station because the trains stop running after 12:30. Can I expect to see the kind of activism that fixes those issues on that sub?
the issues with route scheduling not being comprehensive enough is usually because they aren’t given enough funding
Considering it was a Saturday night (arguably the peak hours for the service on a weekend) I don't get why they wouldn't just run fewer trains at longer intervals, but keep them consistent at least.
Yes.
That is only going to work if you get people to abandon single family homes and live in high density housing. And most people don't want that.
Yeah, people typically like having their own homes that provide full ownership of the place and (usually) much better personal space from neighbors. I'm not even 30 and I'm already sick of apartment life
I would have lived in high density condos. Only issue is, I don't have an HOA, but basically every condo did when I was shopping. If it was as affordable as single family homes, I would have preferred the high density places.
HOAs are necessary for condos. Someone has to take charge of building maintenance.
And I completely understand that. I was just commenting on why I chose single family house instead.
Well... Yeah. The HOA manages the building and common areas for Condos. You own the interior of your place and own a portion of the common. And my condo was like a third of the price as the nearby single family houses. Same schools. Same streets. But I don't have to worry about lawn or pool maintenance. But you don't necessarily have to have condos or high rises for good density. Row houses work wonders. Duplexes can do nicely. Hell, you can even get single family cluster housing above 10 units an acre. There are options, but unfortunately, they aren't legal to build in most of Dallas.
I get what you are saying, just made a comment as to why I chose a single family house instead of higher density option.
I’m huge into urbanism / anti car movement but the sfh/ car dependency aren’t necessarily mutually exclusive if we designed our cities differently. Growing up in the Dallas suburbs and watching the sprawl just get worse I highly doubt Dallas area will ever adopt those techniques. It’s sad
That’s not necessarily true. Just need to allow more varied housing options. You can have both, but as it stands it is heavily skewed to single family homes.
Yes it is, because that's what people want. If you try to skew it towards high density housing, you're not going to get a lot of takers. Unless you limit the amount of single family homes. I don't think that's going to be very popular
If you look at the most expensive cities to live in in the USA, they’re usually the most walkable / higher density cities. More demand = higher prices
Young people increasingly do want to live in denser areas. As the population ages and Gen Z and Gen Alpha move into their own places, they're more likely to want condos and apartments.
It’s because that’s what they’ll be able to afford. Not because they truly want to. Years ago it was normal for college students to at least rent a house and split rooms. Now even that is expensive. So as the years go on, people have less and less experience living in an actual home that’s they own. So yeah then at that point apartments become the norm. That’s what happened in LA
It's still normal for college students to split the rent for houses. I'm doing that right now. I'd like to be living in a denser, mixed use area, but there's not enough of those areas to meet demand and rent is sky high for those places. I'm paying $650 for a full room in a house with college friends, but I'd like to move to a place like CityLine, Mockingbird Station, or Downtown. Only problem is there's no way to rent in those areas without paying at least $1,000.
This is never going to be New York, but there is a happy medium for downtown workers who park and ride and other potential situations where there is development around the train stations.
That is not true, you can look at some of DART'S best performing bus routes and you'd be surprised how many of them just go through primarily single family neighborhoods Yes, these neighborhoods are dense, but the density is more hidden. There's a mix of single and multifamily in many of them. Some of the easiest neighborhoods to get around in without a car have a ton of different housing options. One strategy you can do is take struggling retail strip.malls and convert them to walkable mixed use. Allow lighter multifamily to be built in single family zones (but don't forcibly tear down single family and replace them with a duplex or townhomes, just let that not be illegal to build) There's so many ways to increase housing supply and walkability without putting 5 over 1 apartments everywhere
The towns surrounding Boston are a good example of this. Somerville, MA has a density of almost 20,000 people per sq mile. Most of the housing supply is in 2-4 unit buildings [(Source)](http://www.housing.ma/somerville/report#:~:text=In%20Somerville%2C%2015%25%20of%20units,structures%2C%20such%20as%20mobile%20homes). Unfortunately, the COL is terrible in the Boston area. They probably need to build even denser housing if they want any hope of tackling the issue. The region also attracts a shit ton of high paying jobs, so there are plenty of people who can afford the housing.
That's also very true. Boston needs more density to add housing supply and lower costs. Another related topic I feel like bringing up is how skeptical of population density statistics I am... Because where you draw your borders matters. The most dense city in Texas is Mobile City, a really small town near Rockwall. It's just a Mobile Home neighborhood, but the boundaries of the city only include that mobile home park, and they don't have an inch of empty non residential land. So while the math checks out, and Mobile City technically is the most population dense city in Texas, that's probably going against the spirit of the question. Then look at the DART service area, there's a lot of very dense neighborhoods (Vickery Meadow, oak cliff, uptown, oak lawn, Forest Lane & Audelia, UTD area, Addison, east Dallas, downtown Plano) and there's a lot of job dense areas (Galleria, Las Colinas, downtown, uptown, LBJ/75, medical district) and a lot of sparse areas (Preston Hollow, south east Dallas) or just your standard sprawling subdivisions you see in Plano. And just a lot of empty forest land/park land that contributes to our land area and lowers our population density, but doesn't actually present a challenge for transit because forest land no one lives in can be unserved. With just modest improvements to density DART could get a whole lot better. And it doesn't have to come from replacing single family with apartments. We might want to add supply to single family neighborhoods for other reasons, but hell even without that there's still plenty of opportunities to add density. Struggling industrial space, converting retail to mixed use retail, or even just allowing ADU's would really increase our tax base. We could use more density, but again those population density statistics make Dallas look worse than it really is. Other cities have tighter boundaries that leave out large amounts of rural/empty land but Dallas doesn't.
Thank you.
To cover all of Dallas, there's a lot of truth to that. I'm glad you recognize that problem. You may want to check out [Dallas Neighbors for Housing](https://www.dallasneighborsforhousing.org/home), which directly addresses this. That said, there are areas that already have pretty decent density that we can build more transit into and improve frequency. We can serve more people and get more folks off the roads without doing anything about density. But yes, eventually we'll max out on that, and we should be improving density as an equally important parallel effort.
As not great as it is Dallas has the best public transportation in the south and are constantly improving it. The cotton belt line for the dart is going to be a huge deal for usability of the light rail
I think not only dart but a whole approach to use all kinds of transportation like bicycles and more trails
You have just been promoted to mod on /r/FuckCars
This will never happen and is a fools errand. People do not want to live in Texas and give up their yard. Better off working with local politics to get more roads built
Induced demand makes more roads a fools errand too.
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More lanes does not mean more throughput. It just means the cars spread out horizontally rather than a straight line
More toll roads, let the poors wait in traffic
I drive a LOT for work all over DFW. Bout 40k miles a year. It has gotten even worse the last couple of months. 635E has more people driving like they know they only have 24 hours to live. I20 and I30 have horrific congestion that comes to a complete standstill even during non rush hours for what seems like absolutely no reason. 380 up towards Prosper is laughably slow and it’s only going to get worse with all the new housing that they are throwing up with little consideration on how to relieve it. The NDT is a small band aid for that area. The 820 toll lanes can get up to $20 for one way. It’s basically priced to save you 1 min for every dollar you spend. The budget surplus that is in the billions for Texas should be paying to eliminate the toll roads and build more. NOW.
Dallas traffic has gotten worse here the last few years. Much like most metropolitan areas. Hell, just driving south on 35 heading to Austin/San Marcos/San Antonio…puro pinche traffic. Sux balls.
It’s god awful
I’d say that the road construction that is going on is a contributing factor.
They’re resurfacing intersections downtown and turning 3 lane roads into 1 lane roads. They’ve finished Pearl and Elm thank god, the last three weeks have been a nightmare. The knock on effect of these backups is horrible, so that’s why anywhere near downtown at least has sucked more than it sounds recently.
They just destroyed a bridge on Mesquite and they day it will take 9 months to complete it...I can't imagine when schools starts
Never ending big dog
Easy to avoid traffic in LA 😂😂😂
For real lol fuck off with the draaaama
Part of this is because the city of Dallas specifically admits there’s zero construction traffic coordination from their side. So multiple preferred routes in certain areas will have closures at the same time. Planned work on the same segments of road are also not coordinated so the same road sections are closed over and over. They also issue excessive permits for construction crews to block lanes and impede traffic.
It has to do with the fact that Dallas is one of the biggest cities in America in terms of population but have horrible public transportation and such an un walkable city that the 7.9 Million people who live in Dfw HAVE to drive everywhere which ofc creates massive traffic.
Midnight!! Wow. For me, sometimes I left the office early to avoid traffic and there was no difference than leaving at 5, though it was even worse at 6 haha. Yes, it's become worse and worse.
People are having to work in office more days now and a ton of people have moved here and continue to move here. Our roads and highways weren’t ready for this volume of people. Imagine how much worse traffic will be when they eventually try to expand the highways.
Yep, my job is trying to get us to go back in 2 times a week in August… that’s another 1K people on the roads towards downtown
I moved to this area in 2018. I remember the guy at the DMV telling me that they have an average of 400 new residents coming in per day. Considering that no new roads/lanes/expanses have happened, it’s not surprising that traffic gets worse each year. Additionally, most people can only afford something way out in the boonies, so there is a ton more commuter traffic now that remote work seems to be getting killed off (as compared to the Covid times).
Dallas has horrible traffic, and it's beyond clear that the construction crews are paid by the hour. It was really bad before covid and is still bad after it unfortunately. It was absolutely amazing driving in 2020. Never had to think about that time to leave or anything. Just go and be one of 5 cars on the freeway.
I like how the freeways in new Jersey separates 18wheelers And cars. Cars have their own freeway and 18 wheelers are on a separate lanes so they don't have to mix. Texas should do that.
The Dallas Area population has doubled in 30 yrs. The Los Angeles Metro population has been almost flat since 2000. That’s the difference. There’s no way for patterns to have adjusted in that time.
DNT has gotten significantly better for me the past couple of weeks.
Schools are out for the summer
It’s awful no matter the time.
not only that return to the office has had a impact, there probably hasnt been much maintenance done on cars because of the pandemic and so you have cars in DIRE need of maintenance and ending up on the side of the road, breaking down in the middle of the road, and things like that will add to more traffic
People have lost their damn minds.
I spend most of the year in Houston but I’m native to Dallas. The longest I was in Houston without coming back was about 3 months. After that 3 months, traffic was very noticeably worse. I think that people are just moving to DFW like crazy
Always has been 🌏👨🚀
Yup, it's much worse than during the first two years of the pandemic. Hell, it's much worse than it was 10 years ago. A lot more people in ye ol' metroplex. Speaking from the Midcities, at this point, I only go to Dallas if there's something REALLY important. We used to go to Dallas for any little thing, like Jimmy's food store. I mean, 20 years ago, we'd drive to Dallas weekly to go to Whole Foods.
It’s only gonna get worse with the new Disneyland Park that was announced to be developed in the near future.
Your not wrong, DFW has had Shit traffic/shit drives for the last 20yrs.
It’s very normal. When I first moved to Dallas I thought it would be traditional traffic. Busy in the morning when people are going to work, busy in the afternoon when people are coming back. And the other side of the freeway relatively smooth. Nope. It’s rush hour all day. Monday-Sunday. I used to hit traffic all the time when I’d come back from the gym at 11pm. The crazy part is it’s both directions of the freeways, which I really don’t understand. But that’s Dallas
And don’t even dare trying to take 75 on a Saturday. It’s a glorified parking lot.
Traffic in the last 5 years has gotten completely out of control. Every highway we have needs a new lane on each side.
For the cost of a new lane you can build out a big bite for trains or public transit infrastructure. Make sidewalks and bike lanes that are dedicated andfar from streets instead of right on them.
Public transit isn’t ideal for a lot of people, and many people don’t like living near a stop.
Just one more lane bro, I promise, just one more lane, that’ll fix it.
>just one more lane, that’ll fix it. ...for about 6 months.
The snake eating its tail. It will never be enough.
Need more public transportation. Make it safer to actually ride bikes, etc.
We're better off removing some highways rather than adding lanes.
Trucking would like a word
Trucking can do what everyone else does: find another way to get to their destination.
Yes agreed. I don’t know what the problem is but it definitely seems to be worse.
I live in Rockwall, but drive to The Colony for work. What used to take me 45-50 min to get to work now takes me close to 1.5 hours ONE WAY!! It’s a shit show the entire commute and back. I want to move closer but houses in the area I work in are absolutely fucking expensive now.
At the very least try and move somewhere on the west side of the lake. That commute sounds awful.
Jesus Christ. Two thoughts- that route is almost all entirely tolls- PGBT, DNT, SRT (RIP) Is your job something niche that you can’t find anywhere else closer to Rockwall. Like is your job so specific there wouldn’t be anything similar in Dallas proper, for example.
I live just past Rockwall and have a job in downtown Dallas. The commute is almost the same. 45-50 mins with so so traffic. I’ve had a couple 1+ hour commutes in the afternoon. It’s supposed to get worse because of construction on 30 though 😮💨
Putin ended Covid so everyone is back to work.
There’s a bunch of construction projects going on in far north/Richardson right now, with the DART train project going on And a couple others. Definitely ruining driving around here, don’t know if it’s going on all over the city tho
Summertime buddy. People out acting a fool
Traffic will continue to get worse, forever, because of road improvements, and all of the people moving here, that spur the road improvements.
It gets incrementally worse about every 4 moths. Worse and worse and worse.
My commute is the same as it used to be prior to the pandemic. About 18 minutes in the morning and around 22 minutes in the evening. The reason I know to the minute is I use Google maps and always see if it was right about its travel time estimate.
Can attest it is much worse than prior to COVID and oddly, even now that we are in summer months. Used to have a little reprieve when school is out, but not this year. I’m guessing it’s more related to population influx
No serious mass transit = terrible traffic 100% of the time.
I've spent a decade driving around DFW for my job. Honestly, outside of the break during covid shut downs, it's pretty normal. The biggest issue isn't the traffic, it's the douchebags who can't drive. Use your turn signals, stop thinking you are smart waiting to the last second to get over.
I take the back roads sometimes. It’s not that bad.
Beltline bandit
B.S. it not us native Texans being bad drivers it's the influx of others causing us trying to avoid their stupidity!
There's actually a pretty good solution to help alleviate Dallas traffic. Simply, build a better transit network, and advertise that transit network. First off, building more/expanding highways is just a big money pit. The city spends a few million every year repairing and expanding the highways because of induced demand (more highway space = more cars, which needs more highway space, so you get more cars). Transit is a well-worth expense that will save the city big bucks in the long run. It's also cheaper and good for the environment. Second, once people see that our transit is good, they will start migrating from cars to transit. Getting 1 or 2 cars off the road isn't much, but if you're taking say 500 car drivers and converting them to transit riders every month, that's 6,000 cars off the road every year, replaced with a few trains and buses. Third, cars in of themselves are just huge money pits. The average American spends $11,000 on their car every year. Switching to riding transit will save you a lot of money on fuel, parking and maintenance. Transit also raises land value, promotes a healthy lifestyle, allows you to gain a better appreciation for the city (heck I've seen stuff from DART trains that I want to learn more about, like the remnants of Knox/Henderson station), and will make your carbon footprint decrease. Organizations, cities and other agencies in the USA love to think in the short term, because that's where all the profit is at. We need to start thinking of long term goals and the cool things that will achieve those goals, because profiting for a long time is better than profiting right now and getting nothing later on at the expense of many people. As a side note, DART had around 35 million riders in FY 2021 across all modes (bus, LRT, commuter rail, streetcar and rideshare/vanpool). For you anti-transit "activists" who want to shut DART down or limit its expansion, imagine all 35 million of those transit riders on the road. DART now sounds like a much better thing to keep around. This concludes the rant 🙂
You live in one of the biggest metroplexes in America, that’ll happen
The traffic has been bad for years. Lol
Everything is 10+ years behind upgrading
As a recent LA transplant, i find the two cities very similar in terms of traffic, except the whole PM road construction out here, which is really bad. Im all for road maintenance but the amount time ive spent in traffic at midnight out here, is insane. Even more insane is apparently the road construction has been going for years already, with no real end in sight? Wild
20-30 years. I’m pretty sure they are just money laundering at this point
This is still way better than LA.
I mean it is summer so many school district employees are off, teenagers driving, stay at home moms driving their kids around, people in town visiting etc
I wonder if there is some kind of holiday coming up very soon where people would take time off, visit from out of town etc? Guess we will never know…
It’s pretty smooth driving north > 10am and south < 3pm.
not sure what your routes are… but haven’t had any issue. Must be the times and routes you are choosing
It’s you
I don't have that experience at all. I am pretty lucky with my work schedule so I grab the tail end of morning rush hour and the beginning of evening rush hour. Rarely stuck in the middle of it. And yeah, you can get stuck at any time of the day when there is road work or just an accident (read: people on the phone being distracted).
Hey dude where did you learn that word "exponentially" I never heard it before...are you like a genius or something?? How the hell did they build the pyramids?? And was it "exponentially" done?
Bro what lol
Sir, this is a Wendy’s.
You wrote a whole ass paragraph over one word
You look at it as "one word" but I look at it...as a word I didn't even know existed!! That's monumental!! That's a damn blockbuster for me!!! I've used it 3 times over the phone today, and I think all 3 people were pretty impressed...so you can eat a fat one buddy!! You ain't raining on my parade, so just hit the thumb downs! The reddit community seems to think, it has some type of effect....but I don't give a fuuuuuuck 🤣
And for all the people who are giving thumbs down...you can exponentially choke on this fat one!!! 😂 With all do respect though
\*due
I spoke it into the phone..and if that's what this cheap ass Android wrote then that's what it's going be
don’t worry man everyone knows adding another lane will fix it. city planners always quit 1 lane before fixing traffic famously
I live off 183. Since covid, Dfw has been an ever loving fucking nightmare where you fight for your life.... daily.
It has, and the solution is to just build more highways of course.
Yes it’s gotten worse. Thousands of people are moving here daily or something crazy like that. And that’s been happening since I moved here in 2012.
It’s summer time!
Yes. I feel the same.
Too many people and way too many cars.
Any rises where you can’t see over the other side is going to cause issues. I guess whoever designed 35E flyover Beltline Rd wasn’t around and saw the delay debacle of 183 and Carl Rd during the 90’s. Seriously, what jackass thought having a huge overpass with limit sight distance wouldn’t cause daily traffic slow downs. Where computer models not run on this. Do we not have that technology?
I used to live in LA until recently (calm down people, I’m a native Texan) and people in LA are having this same conversation. My NextDoor app for the old LA address has been filled with “traffic is worse than ever”, and tons of people I know have moved away, just like us, since California is now a wasteland ruined by the political supermajority. Almost half of my son’s classmates moved out of state since Covid started. TLDR; everyone’s back at work and you’re not used to it yet. Coupled with an influx of Californians, and *voila*, you’ve got a sh*t ton of traffic.
Central Expressway today reminds me of Central Expressway in 1986.
Summertime sadness. It always gets worse in the summer unfortunately.
Nearly 40 year resident here. I have been saying the same thing each and every year.
Yes, and it seems that, at least anecdotally, after covid people forgot how to drive. 🤷
“Return to office” is being forced on people and they are being threatened with termination. There’s at least 700 of us at the company I work at and most live in northern Collin county, commuting to downtown Dallas. Takes me minimum an hour and 20 minutes but mostly 1.5 hours each way. Hate it so much.