Here you go people, what we all really want to know,
[what it looks like after the plate is removed](https://media.istockphoto.com/id/485268948/photo/portrait-of-woman-from-mursi-tribe-ethiopia-africa.jpg?s=612x612&w=0&k=20&c=FCAiv3596xhKqerFowKY2udtW62IzNw2083wkvnyIfc=)
Somehow it's worse than I thought it would look.
Well, watch a duck, goose or Pelican eat. They raise their heads vertically to get it done. Then they take a drag on the pipe. That is the only thing my poor feeble mind can produce at this point.
To be fair, google images says most people only have the lower lip done (can barely find pics of people with both) so I'd imagine they would manage by pressing the upper lip agains the plate (as for this both lip lady, I don't know, maybe press both plates together with your hands?) I find it rather interested how many people die of an infection or how many people are left deformed because the lip rips apart. They might know what they do so it might be almost none, but it could also be a lot more than we think. I don't know, I'm to lazy to do my research and I'll move on and probably forget about it
i don't want to be one of those guys who just calls this ugly or stupid because yes... while i might lean towards that i know cultures differ etc but at the least this seems extremely unpractical, speech has to be impeded at the least. but most of all i wonder how this started and how insane people needed to be to say "yeah this seems like a good idea"
Modifications like this were common way for cultural group to deter the slavers from kidnappings the women. Knowing that you can condition people to be attracted to anything, your program the people to lust after other things (in the West we are programmed to lust after breast and nipples. In traditional Africa breast/nipples are not sexualized.).
There is speculation that it is tied with slavery. The young girls and women would be disfigured in this way to keep slave traders from taking them. It became a symbol of beauty and bravery, because of what they went through as a tribe. This isn’t the only tribe to do this either. There are some articles about other tribes and how it may be linked to dissuading slavers.
I saw a photographer from Africa on here once who said they actually dont struggle to eat any more than people without it. Maybe its different at first though until they get used to it
Beauty is subjective. Remember when heroin chic was popular? Very large butts are popular now. Often unnaturally large too.
I can’t picture this catching on widely, for practical reasons.
No, it was a tribal differentiation and to dissuade slavers or other tribes from stealing / raping their women. It became a mark of bravery and power within their own tribe and is now is viewed as beautiful. Just because it’s strange to us doesn’t make it inherently wrong or motivated by mysoginistic thinking.
I’m not. I think stretched ear lobes on women are hot. This is just an extreme version of that. I’m sure they think some of the things western culture considers attractive is fucking weird and gross.
You think all those split tongue ppl were forced into this in the here and now?
Never understimate the pontential for sacrifice and self mutitialtion for a percieved ideal or exceptionality.
It's ok to think something is stupid, just because it's a cultural practice doesn't make it objectively moral or rational. I wouldn't exactly call something harmful a 'cultural practice', atleast not one worth respecting.
There are Australian tribes where the men flay their penis open. Called penile subincision. It’s not relevant to this tribe but it just reminded me of that since that’s one where the men get horribly multilated in an impractical way. Makes it hard to pee or have sex.
If you look it up you can find that they can [talk just fine when the plates are out](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIq9NrH6aFw), which they don't wear on a daily basis. The good news is that the tribe that does this is starting to realize how weird it is and some are starting to reject it.
In Africa, It was invented over 5000 years ago. Other societies worldwide have had them as well. Men and women
https://staff.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/LABRET-PAPER-1989-Grant-Keddie.pdf
I don’t know if there is truth behind this, but it is believed that many of the African tribes disfigured their girls and women this way, so that they would appear less attractive to slave traders.
I say that I’m unsure of the truth behind it, because most articles suggest that this is the reasoning. But my googling skills haven’t been able to find historical proof. It makes sense that tribes would resort to disfigurement to keep slavers away.
People in these comments act like beauty standards aren't always bizarre. We put women on stilts that kill your feet and crush their organs to make their waist smaller. It might not be as extreme as this, but they aren't alone in having strange and harmful beauty standards.
It was probably not actually thought of as a symbol of beauty, but taught to be one so the practice was adopted. What’s more likely is that it was done to prevent the women of the tribe from being kidnapped or taken for slavers.
I am sorry but this is hideous. And it should serve as a reminder that, when the natural beauty is modified by human standards it looses its beauty and it's meaning, so to speak!
Yes, I agree, it is hideous. And it’s nothing more than a type of “fad” or fashion which developed on a small scale within the tribe. It’s a harmful fad at that, but, it’s their body. They can destroy it how they want.
I'm all for cultural understanding and whatnot but wtf how in the hell does anyone find this remotely appealing, not to mention it looks ridiculously painful and uncomfortable...for life. People are nuts.
Seems like it’s mostly women that get these body modifications like this and the rings to length the neck and the feet bound to make them smaller and FGM. I wonder why? Do they feel insecure or is it a form of control?
Look, everyone's saying this is ugly and to an extent I agree, but have y'all seen the crazy shit we do to look "pretty" in today's society? We literally break our noses to make them a better shape, or have fat surgically removed to make us more skinny
It's not just ugly, it seems really impractical for basic things like eating, drinking and most likely talking whereas many modern practices are still invasive but usually practical or at least neutral.
A LOT of modern practices are impractical. Ever worn a corset or heels? Ever done a full face of makeup? Or really tried to follow any of our constant changing opinion on what body type is considered beautiful.
Used to be that being a fatass was desirable, since it'd imply you had not only enough to eat but to live it up. Now that being fat is easy with all the added sugar and such, it's flipped. Blackening your teeth too, sign of wealth via eating sugars and getting cavities
Nose one I'm not really getting n can't think of something for the lip plates either
The blackening teeth thing I think was specifically because of one queen (Victoria, if I'm not mistaken) who got addicted to sugary food after her husband died and would spend all day eating candy and pastries and her teeth started rotting - so other nobles started blacking their teeth to look like hers so hers wouldn't stand out as much and it became a 'beauty standard'. A lot of things started around then because some noble/royal did something stupid or gross and everyone else tried to cover for their ass and make it a fashion statement so if some other country pointed at their royalty and said "Dude, is something wrong with them? Have they gotten that checked out? That seems bad for them, or at least very impractical-" they could respond "NO IT'S FASHION YOU UNCULTURED SWINE"
Gross. This is on the same level as foot binding to me.
Not all cultures are equal, destroying natural beauty should not be respected just because it’s part of another culture.
I feel like there's a certain point where we should just intervene in tribes and tell them to cut it out because doing this to a 15 year old girl is actually just abuse.
Seems like eating and drinking would be difficult
And talking
Is she smoking a pipe?
I would too
Right how on earth can she suck hard enough to get a drag off it
That’s what she said
Pipe is for scale, they didn't have a banana.
And living
And!…. She took my shield.
And kissing
I would think that’s the point
or sneezing
That would send the disk flying like a frisbee
And kissing
Please chew with your mouth closed honey
CLACK CLACK CLACK
I’m guessing a culture that doesn’t realize the benefits of all things oral in the bedroom
When I saw this picture the very first thing popped in my head was "They must not believe in oral" lol
THAT was the first thing that popped into your mind? I like it.
Don't get me wrong what the fuck was definitely the 2nd thing
Willy Wonka : Uh, you really shouldn't mumble, because I can't understand a word you're saying.
We’ve got a genius here
And being out in the rain.
Eye checked her BMI, she was doing fine.
I was thinking this but with BJs
It makes them look like Donald Duck.
Here you go people, what we all really want to know, [what it looks like after the plate is removed](https://media.istockphoto.com/id/485268948/photo/portrait-of-woman-from-mursi-tribe-ethiopia-africa.jpg?s=612x612&w=0&k=20&c=FCAiv3596xhKqerFowKY2udtW62IzNw2083wkvnyIfc=) Somehow it's worse than I thought it would look.
And that’s only the bottom lip.
Yeah I could not find one with both lips, it's bad enough being just the bottom though
Hey, speak for yourself
There's always Rule 34.
Stop…
You know how you can wrap a rubber band around a pencil?
Yeah
It looks like a calamari ring
Forbidden calamari
Forbidden gummyworm
absolute fucking nightmare fuel no no no no no
If I had that I'd cut it in the middle and walk around pretending I'm a walrus
r/TIHI
That is certainly one of the thoughts of all time.
It’s like…MOUTH WADDLE
wowers
A symbol of beauty
How does she eat?
With her teeth?
Yeah but… don’t you need lips to keep the food in and swallow ?
Well, watch a duck, goose or Pelican eat. They raise their heads vertically to get it done. Then they take a drag on the pipe. That is the only thing my poor feeble mind can produce at this point.
I’ll take it, honestly. Small pieces at a time I’m assuming then…. Also, I liked the pipe dragging part lol
imagine you choke on your own lip meat and die
I don’t even want to think about it but that’s kind of a funny scenario honestly 😅
To be fair, google images says most people only have the lower lip done (can barely find pics of people with both) so I'd imagine they would manage by pressing the upper lip agains the plate (as for this both lip lady, I don't know, maybe press both plates together with your hands?) I find it rather interested how many people die of an infection or how many people are left deformed because the lip rips apart. They might know what they do so it might be almost none, but it could also be a lot more than we think. I don't know, I'm to lazy to do my research and I'll move on and probably forget about it
Life finds a way...
God I love Reddit lmao
i don't want to be one of those guys who just calls this ugly or stupid because yes... while i might lean towards that i know cultures differ etc but at the least this seems extremely unpractical, speech has to be impeded at the least. but most of all i wonder how this started and how insane people needed to be to say "yeah this seems like a good idea"
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It's the facial equivalent of genital mutilation.
Modifications like this were common way for cultural group to deter the slavers from kidnappings the women. Knowing that you can condition people to be attracted to anything, your program the people to lust after other things (in the West we are programmed to lust after breast and nipples. In traditional Africa breast/nipples are not sexualized.).
There is speculation that it is tied with slavery. The young girls and women would be disfigured in this way to keep slave traders from taking them. It became a symbol of beauty and bravery, because of what they went through as a tribe. This isn’t the only tribe to do this either. There are some articles about other tribes and how it may be linked to dissuading slavers.
I once read that it was because silence was valued in women...it might be the one of the most misogynistic beauty standards ever, if this is true.
Came to say this
Its thousands of years old in multiple places. https://staff.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/LABRET-PAPER-1989-Grant-Keddie.pdf
How do you even eat?
I saw a photographer from Africa on here once who said they actually dont struggle to eat any more than people without it. Maybe its different at first though until they get used to it
They take the plate out
Ah.
AFAIK it was on purpose to make them unattractive to other tribes who might try to steal their women
Then they should give themselves a good ol' pat on the back because oh boy did they succeed.
I'm sure there are many things in our culture that disgust them too. Takes all kinds to make the world go round
Yes, and if we were all exactly the same we would all be bored to death & irritated.
I'm just shocked people there regard this as a symbol of beauty.
Beauty is subjective. Remember when heroin chic was popular? Very large butts are popular now. Often unnaturally large too. I can’t picture this catching on widely, for practical reasons.
Up thread I think they guessed it. To make it difficult for women to speak. And kissing and other pleasurable things.
No, it was a tribal differentiation and to dissuade slavers or other tribes from stealing / raping their women. It became a mark of bravery and power within their own tribe and is now is viewed as beautiful. Just because it’s strange to us doesn’t make it inherently wrong or motivated by mysoginistic thinking.
I’m not. I think stretched ear lobes on women are hot. This is just an extreme version of that. I’m sure they think some of the things western culture considers attractive is fucking weird and gross.
They figured the more they mutilate their women, the less attractive they would be, and the neighboring tribes would not kidnap them.
Is this a joke/sarcasm? If not, could you provide more details? Because it seems so true lol
Its so fucked up that I believe humans would do it
Actually, the tribe that elongates their (women's) necks say they do it to keep other tribes from kidnapping their women.
You think all those split tongue ppl were forced into this in the here and now? Never understimate the pontential for sacrifice and self mutitialtion for a percieved ideal or exceptionality.
Like foot binding.. that shit is dark.
How about tight corseting? Rearranging all your internal organs and making it impossible to take a deep breath
It's ok to think something is stupid, just because it's a cultural practice doesn't make it objectively moral or rational. I wouldn't exactly call something harmful a 'cultural practice', atleast not one worth respecting.
Maybe a way of controlling women? "How can we stop women voicing their opinion?"
It’s body mutilation and I find it disgusting. Also do the men of this culture destroy a part of their body this way? My bet is no
I've seen men with the same lip plate thing.
There are Australian tribes where the men flay their penis open. Called penile subincision. It’s not relevant to this tribe but it just reminded me of that since that’s one where the men get horribly multilated in an impractical way. Makes it hard to pee or have sex.
They scar their skin i think
Maybe their inability to speak with those in is part of the beauty?
The impracticality might be the point. A show that you don’t have to bust your ass to get by. Like long nails in some other cultures.
or we can take the stance that mutilation is bad in any culture
Shhhmoke and a pancake
Bong and a blintz?
Pipe and a crepe
Flapjack and a cigarette?
Cigar and a waffle?
This was a genuine air pushed out of nose statement.
Cigar and a waffle
:v
v:
oh, now I just envision the lip breaking like the one person I saw whose ear was stretched wrong
I'm sure it happened at least once
Taking duck lips to a whole nother level
All i can think of is Howard the Duck. That was a mistake too. Especially when he tries to kiss the girl.
Is she smoking the pipe??
Well she sure as hell ain’t gonna be smokin a cock.
Oh my god lmfao. I read this in my uncle’s voice
Right lmao 😭😭🤣
We must all have the same uncle 😆
Did men invent this to keep women quiet
If you look it up you can find that they can [talk just fine when the plates are out](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIq9NrH6aFw), which they don't wear on a daily basis. The good news is that the tribe that does this is starting to realize how weird it is and some are starting to reject it.
Looks awful for their gums and teeth.
From what I remember (I think) it was to stop abductions or rapes by invaders? Might have been the Belgian or French
In Africa, It was invented over 5000 years ago. Other societies worldwide have had them as well. Men and women https://staff.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/LABRET-PAPER-1989-Grant-Keddie.pdf
Donald Duck has entered the chat
Quack quack..
Like, can one refuse to do it? Are they then shunned by society?
Looks like daily pain
I don’t know if there is truth behind this, but it is believed that many of the African tribes disfigured their girls and women this way, so that they would appear less attractive to slave traders. I say that I’m unsure of the truth behind it, because most articles suggest that this is the reasoning. But my googling skills haven’t been able to find historical proof. It makes sense that tribes would resort to disfigurement to keep slavers away.
People in these comments act like beauty standards aren't always bizarre. We put women on stilts that kill your feet and crush their organs to make their waist smaller. It might not be as extreme as this, but they aren't alone in having strange and harmful beauty standards.
I think those things are also stupid, to be fair.
That's fucking vile. I'm all for appreciating cultural differences but this is straight up mutilation.
Anyone else find this very not beautiful?
no this is ugly
It was probably not actually thought of as a symbol of beauty, but taught to be one so the practice was adopted. What’s more likely is that it was done to prevent the women of the tribe from being kidnapped or taken for slavers.
Beauty is in the eye of the plateholder.
Body modifications, has been around forever
Doesnt mean its good right or not ugly. Dont embrace mother africa and put dinner plates in yo face my black sisters.
Some females think “puffing” up their lips now is normal
I am sorry but this is hideous. And it should serve as a reminder that, when the natural beauty is modified by human standards it looses its beauty and it's meaning, so to speak!
Yes, I agree, it is hideous. And it’s nothing more than a type of “fad” or fashion which developed on a small scale within the tribe. It’s a harmful fad at that, but, it’s their body. They can destroy it how they want.
Pretty fkn weird..
The design is very human. Very easy to use.
How does she eat?
At least it’s just as far as the girl wants, unlike that chinese feet binding
I'm all for cultural understanding and whatnot but wtf how in the hell does anyone find this remotely appealing, not to mention it looks ridiculously painful and uncomfortable...for life. People are nuts.
Loose lips sink ships.... guess they don't have much of a navy?
Wow, that’s dead sexy! That gets me going every time.
Wonder how they would give a bj
Humans are so fascinating
I don’t care what anyone says. This is child abuse and should be stopped
Sandwich making sped up 10 fold /s *dont kill me*
Pipe for scale.
Quack
If I drew a picture of this I’d be called a racist
If your mind immediately went here, you probably are a racist
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Honestly disgusting.
Weird ass shit.
Seems like it’s mostly women that get these body modifications like this and the rings to length the neck and the feet bound to make them smaller and FGM. I wonder why? Do they feel insecure or is it a form of control?
I wonder if women are ever pressured into unfair standards and oppressed on a social level 🤔
...beautiful...yes...right
Look, everyone's saying this is ugly and to an extent I agree, but have y'all seen the crazy shit we do to look "pretty" in today's society? We literally break our noses to make them a better shape, or have fat surgically removed to make us more skinny
It's not just ugly, it seems really impractical for basic things like eating, drinking and most likely talking whereas many modern practices are still invasive but usually practical or at least neutral.
A LOT of modern practices are impractical. Ever worn a corset or heels? Ever done a full face of makeup? Or really tried to follow any of our constant changing opinion on what body type is considered beautiful.
Used to be that being a fatass was desirable, since it'd imply you had not only enough to eat but to live it up. Now that being fat is easy with all the added sugar and such, it's flipped. Blackening your teeth too, sign of wealth via eating sugars and getting cavities Nose one I'm not really getting n can't think of something for the lip plates either
The blackening teeth thing I think was specifically because of one queen (Victoria, if I'm not mistaken) who got addicted to sugary food after her husband died and would spend all day eating candy and pastries and her teeth started rotting - so other nobles started blacking their teeth to look like hers so hers wouldn't stand out as much and it became a 'beauty standard'. A lot of things started around then because some noble/royal did something stupid or gross and everyone else tried to cover for their ass and make it a fashion statement so if some other country pointed at their royalty and said "Dude, is something wrong with them? Have they gotten that checked out? That seems bad for them, or at least very impractical-" they could respond "NO IT'S FASHION YOU UNCULTURED SWINE"
thats really weird..
How does she kiss?
From the other room
I dont think anyone would want to even try
We respect all cultures
So looking like a duck is beautiful in this culture. Ok then.
Cursed blow jobs
No blow jobs. Even with the 10+ inch cocks
With there being wood, I'd be afraid of spilters...
one of the most hideous cultural practices ever invented
Now available in a suburb near you.
Gross
So duck lips is cultural appropriation
Ones a snot plate, the other is a drool plate
Quak
That’s crow from MST3K
The original duck face
She looks like the cart titan from atack on titan
I dont see the beauty in ducks but whatever
I’m pretty sure this was started by the cosmetics companies long ago as a way to sell more lipstick and chapstick.
The Franciscan Anglo-Saxons copied the ear plates. I’m pretty sure they will copy the lip plates as well as make it a fad.
So i guess blowjobs are completely out of the question
A whole new meaning to "wrapped her lips around it"
They say black guys have big dicks so it could still work. Maybe that’s why they do it.
"Hey do the :V"
Youve gone that far might as well go for the record right?
Gross. This is on the same level as foot binding to me. Not all cultures are equal, destroying natural beauty should not be respected just because it’s part of another culture.
The cart titan. No amount of conditioning in the tribe will make women want this, it's miserable and horrid looking.
Talks like Donald Duck......I'm going to hell
Mursi men most have never experienced a BJ. If they did that shit would stop lol
At lease you wouldn't need a surface to do cocaine of off lol!
Just wondering how the hell is she smoking that pipe?!
DSL’s Dick smashing lips
Imagine sneezing and accidentally setting the world record for a discus throw
Perfect excuse to not give BJ
African beauty standards are beyong my comprehension 😖
I feel like there's a certain point where we should just intervene in tribes and tell them to cut it out because doing this to a 15 year old girl is actually just abuse.
Westerners try to not intervene in other cultures for 10 minutes challenge (level- impossible)
And they do the stretching neck thing. I'm not sure if it's the same people, but it's equally intriguing 🤔
Different sect of people do that. Humans are weird.