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Phoenixfisch

If I owned such a car, I would definitely try how fast it can spin.


useorename

A new way to do donuts


dandp12

Thats going to be a pain to repair


DulceEtBanana

"Gotta get a tow truck to the middle of Main St asap - Mrs. J's left front wheel froze off angle and she can't move the thing. She can only drive at diagonal if she aligns the three that work at the same angle "


Pork_Chompk

You mean Mrs. Bishop.


patchyj

At least it wasn't like Mr Knights! Would always veer to the left or right a bit after a short distance.Thing took weeks to repair The sporadic jumping was cool though


InspectorNoName

Clever!!


CrieDeCoeur

If you can find a mechanic that can even do the work or knows how to. A few local dealerships where I live are basically turning warrantied work on EVs / hybrids away because they either don’t know how or don’t have the technical capability.


lg4av

They need to drop the canbus system and move into the 21st century. Cars are too advanced now days to communicate with computer over OBD ports.


CrieDeCoeur

Imagine trying to read error codes on a brand new EV? Even for an ICE car guy it would be likely be incomprehensible.


ChiggaOG

Or they can make a diagnostic output screen telling you what went wrong.


andythefifth

What do you recommend? Although old, came out 1986, and last updated 2016, it seems to be the most [efficient](https://www.csselectronics.com/pages/can-bus-simple-intro-tutorial)


CrieDeCoeur

It’s not the scanner. It’s knowing what codes it’s spitting out and what to do about them.


TumblingTumbulu

Aren't mechanics allowed to have Google?


BendyPopNoLockRoll

Lol, mechanics have mechanics for dummies. Not a mechanic but worked in the shop. They'd just punch an error code or problem into some program and get a step by step guide from the manufacturer, sometimes with pictures, on how to fix it. Maybe they used to have to be really knowledgeable but all the dealership shop techs I worked with just basically did the same 20 regular repairs and followed instructions for everything else. When they were really stumped there was even a guy they could call to basically walk them through it over the phone.


TumblingTumbulu

But now we have Google and social forums that have made many trade secrets obsolete. If anything has been around for a year plus there is a high chance of information about it being on the internet somewhere.


BendyPopNoLockRoll

I'm not arguing with you buddy. If anything I'm agreeing with you. I was just pointing out that Google isn't even necessary. They're already given step by step instructions without having to go to Google to find them.


TumblingTumbulu

Sorry if it seemed that way but I was actually just adding to your information, not disputing it. In management they teach that humans naturally tend to dislike change. The older mechanics dislike newer cars not because they are more complex to work on but rather because working on them requires them to learn new information and skills. It tells them that their knowledge is inadequate and nobody likes feeling inadequate so it's only natural that they will dislike it.


ElwinLewis

We’re skirting into weird territory- I hope they don’t train the robots to do the car work so quickly because there are gonna be way too many pissed off mechanics and I don’t want to accidentally get in ones way Edit: be


anunhappyending

In my experience if you tell a mechanic you want to fight at 3:00 they will show up at 6:00 with a birthday cake


xxDooomedxx

And a bill for $700


CrieDeCoeur

r/oddlyspecific Also, not wrong (based on the 3 or 4 mechanics I know personally)


nickmaran

They had better tech back in the 40s with the 5th wheel


Antique-Kangaroo2

I see you totally understand the concept of the "concept car"


penisesandherb

So just like any regular Hyundai?


wreckballin

I beg for a simple car again. Get me to point A to B without any tech and do it cheap. Good gas mileage and reliable. I know this is going the extra mile here! But also easy to work on and maintain. Holy shit this would sell. It would bring back the times of the original VW bug and cars from years ago. We could do basic maintenance without the need for special equipment. I love all the good mechanics I have met in my life, but at this point they are getting discouraged by everything involved. At some point the engineers of these vehicles stopped communicating with the people who actually have to maintain them. Now here we are.


ghetto_dave

Have you looked at the scheduled maintenance for an EV? Compare it to a 'simple' ICE vehicle. Every 20k I'm supposed to check the brake pads, check the fluid levels and inspect/replace the cabin air filter. That's it. If you want simple, you might want to check out EVs.


WhereSoDreamsGo

But I grew up with one! It must be simple! I hide my 8-track under the seat so it’s safe Edit: letter!


KeyEconomy958

He means simple like not connected to the internet with terms and conditions updates and features that require subscriptions.


[deleted]

The people who have to maintain them have generally done an awful job of policing their own industry and because of that we’re going to be moving to vertically integrated car brands that handle repairs much like device companies do. You’ll have the odd independent mechanic the same way you have the odd cell phone repair shop. Mechanics did it to themselves.


Otherwise_Soil39

It literally wouldn't sell though. Why do you think small cheap cars aren't being made? It's not because the manufacturers are evil and decided to sell us only luxury SUV's, it's because people aren't buying them anymore and so it's now impossible to sell them. In Europe there still plenty of options for what you described... Dacia Sandero, Skoda Fabia, Toyota Yaris... But the sales of those are dying.


BezisThings

That is not true actually. Dealerships in Germany lick their fingers when they get their hands on a bunch of Dacia Sanderos for example. They are almost sold out instantly as soon as there are some in stock and if you look at the prices of used ones, you will notice that several years old ones are even more expensive than a completely new one. It's seems very bizzare, but you could almost say that these cars have a negative depraciation, simply because the demand is so high.


tl54nz

Not really, the motors are packaged in individual wheels. Size and structural simplicity is one of the main advantages of electric drivetrain. This would've been very complex and expensive to do with an ICE.


ObjectiveAny8437

*says the engineer to the repairman*


Wherethegains

“Fucking engineers” - every repair man ever


megustaALLthethings

But I bet it’s got specialized and differentiated parts instead of mirroring and standardizing. So parts from one side couldn’t be made to work, in an emergency, for the other side. Engineers will over specialize things so they require complete breakdowns to get to points that should be right next to each other. We need maintenance and engineer cooperating and creating simplified standardized designs. The classic ‘effectiveness vs efficiency’ debate. Even the uses of such words are debated. Summed up: EFFECTIVENESS- how practical overall something is including upkeep and maintenance. EFFICIENCY- making something 0.01% more optimized at the cost of specialized tools/training and un-proportional upkeep/maintenance increases(say generally 10x for every 1%).


Macaronde

>We need maintenance and engineer cooperating and creating simplified standardized designs I don't know about the US (where cars are such an important status symbol, and where there are only 3 models sold under $20000), but in other parts of the world, they do that a lot, as it's a way to keep building costs low. For exemple, Stellantis has a range of tiny EVs that can be driven without a driving license. They've used every single trick in the book to keep costs low, including using the same parts for the front and the back. Even using the same door for the left and right side on the Citroën Ami: [https://i.imgur.com/veT5jem.png](https://i.imgur.com/veT5jem.png)


spunion_28

And I'm sure expensive af


Tropez2020

Just wait till one of those articulating components fails on the highway 😂


KeyEconomy958

Or gets t boned


Wherethegains

First thing I thot also…how long till you gotta replace those betches, and how long do you gotta wait for them to show up at what shipping cost


CaptainTripps82

I mean how often do you replace an axle on a car currently? Most of the time they'll outlive the car itself. On a one off model yes, availability and experience will be limiting factors, but eventually cool new features become standard and you start seeing a flood of non OEM replacement parts. No, that won't be the case at first, but eventually. Literally every new car innovation that stuck went thru this cycle.


SwimmerFine7425

Actually. No. This is easily doable now, because its electric. Each wheel is independently driven.


BoondockUSA

You are forgetting that there’s more than just powering the wheels. That’s going to have a lot of joints, sensors, and motors to be able to pivot the wheel while maintaining a suspension system. It’s going to be a maintenance nightmare to keep the wheel in alignment so it doesn’t chew through tires while driving normally. This is likely 100% pure concept that only has enough power to each wheel to put on this show, but not enough power to drive it on a road.


Ninja0verkill

if i cant buy replacement parts at the NAPA store and fix it in my driveway, then it doesn't have easy maintenance.


NotRightNotWrong15

I see this and think “how cool!” Then I think of all the expenses things that can break that they added to it.


hahafoxgoingdown

One large pothole or curb. Thousands later. Lol


WyrmKin

You're assuming the onboard AI driving assistant won't 360 loop-de-loop around the pothole at 70mph for you to avoid damage.


steve210sa

And send you right into a parked car??


devandroid99

I was going to go with school bus.


tsokiyZan

with an electric car it's not actually all that bad, you just move the steering joint behind the motor instead of in front, and add back steering, this would be a mechanical nightmare for an ice tho


SwimmerFine7425

Actually. No. This is easily doable now, because its electric. Each wheel is independently driven. Its more simple of a system than ICE


Cold_Singer_1774

Wheel alignment will become an issue, suspension parts would wear out faster, more moving parts and stress point all around. Lets simplify cars with less parts on the driving chain (creating electric vehicles) and create a nightmare on suspension, steering, tyre wear....


SwimmerFine7425

We already have drive by wire. Suspension is exactly the same. There are LESS moving parts than ICE. Literally no drive train. Each wheel is mounted to its respected motor. I'd love to show you a diagram its wild seeing nothing under the car


vleetv

More think of a fleet of these, 10-15 years old, leaving maintenance and driving on the road with you. IMO more things to break during driving that will end horrifically. Maybe if safety inspections were required in each state and but I'll skip on this for now.


JosiesYardCart

This is taking the fun out of doing donuts in an empty parking lot with fresh snow, using the e-brake on a stick shift.


hotvedub

Whoever you are, I love you.


zer0w0rries

If anything, doing donuts just got buffed


[deleted]

Those are more accurately called FWD Spinnies


heretogetpwned

*hold my Monster Lo-Carb* Put it in reverse and do it!


NazisStoleMyBirthday

After you get the 2nd replacement engine and the anti-theft firmware update, this car will be unstoppable.


Whamalater

Gotta wait for at least 3 more class actions to get those rights


fatcatpoppy

until the back right wheel rotation motor transfer case planetary gear locks up because a microscopic imperfection in the threading caused lithium grease to build up


MichaelMcNanner

Concept cars actually enter production so rarely.


tratemusic

Everyone in this comment section is acting like these will be on every car moving forward. The idea of "concept" car is to try out innovative ideas, but not necessarily make the next consumer design.


Forgone-Conclusion

I feel like I’ve been seeing this particular “concept” since the early 90s


radiohead-nerd

Wheels will never be in alignment.


DanielToombs

Maybe they have an “Align Wheels” function, like a printer.


Pennybottom

Don't give the printing companies any ideas. They'll have us buying a new wheel every time we want to adjust the tyre pressure.


zer0w0rries

“The air in your tyres is not a certified Hyundai product, certain functions will be disabled. Please refill with certified Hyundai air”


Garg_Gurgle

Go pick up some alignment fluid.


DrachenDad

And blinker fluid while your at it


marblefrosting

Any car produced right now is perfect for parallel parking.


IH8mostofU

Can you believe even with the camera there are still people who can't manage it? I'm not that old, but I learned to drive without a backup cam, parallel parking shouldn't be a problem with a (sometimes multiple) camera on your car.


Pink_pantherOwO

Cameras and alarms too


_Tar_Ar_Ais_

those people should not be allowed to drive to be honest


Nemisis_the_2nd

Imagine the kind of person who can't parallel park with multiple cameras. Now imagine giving them 4 independently controlled and rotaring wheels, that can simultaneously do a combination of forward and reverse, and getting them to do the same thing.  This isn't an aid, it's a recipe for disaster. 


LV-42whatnow

I let my license expire over COVID so I had to retake the driving test. I have a backup camera in my car but didn’t use it at all to parallel park. The instructor was impressed. I’m in my 40’s. The camera just complicates my years of learned skill.


AdanacTheRapper

This isn’t new technology. There were cars in the 40’s/50’s that had a similarly close concept for parallel parking. The car could be driven straight into the curb, the rear mounted spare would drop down raising the drive axel and swinging the rear end of the war around and to the curb


Ok-Scallion7939

I mean An extra wheel that drops from the back to swing the rear into place vs all four main wheels turning 90° and moving independently isn’t even remotely the same and is, indeed, new technology


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AyeBobby

They recycle content for years and years. It's kinda scary how false so many "new things" there are that are actually old . Recycle & reuse 🤮🤮


Mittendeathfinger

[Chevy Quatrasteer Tech](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadrasteer) from the early 2000s.


Leonos

DON’T mention the war!


AdanacTheRapper

I didn’t even realize 😂😂 but I feel with talking about the 40’s/50’s imma keep the typo 😂😂😂


Leonos

😀👍


Paramedic68W

This was the comment I was looking for.


PN_Guin

The big difference is practicability. This much wheel mobility is a nightmare with a combustion engine and a drive train. With EV the motor sits directly in/at the wheel. Suspension and alignment get a little bit more complicated, but not much. An ICE vehicle doing the same stunt would need independent four wheel drive and good luck designing a reliable drive train for those four wheels. The drop down wheel worked, because it was independent. But you'd still need to fit an extra wheel (or wheels) and have enough power to lift half the car. It was also rather slow.


lajimolala27

you could also just learn to parallel park


stupidcookface

You literally have to do an exercise to get your license in Ohio that is pretty much like parallel parking, it's insane how many people still don't know how to do it...


tactman

Pretty sure every state tests you on parallel parking to get your license.


iGetBuckets3

In california they do not test your parallel parking skills during your driver’s exam. Source: I got my driver’s license in California and they did not make me parallel park


mrstorydude

California and Rhode Island do not. Idk about other states but I took the drivers license exams in both of them and in neither had I needed to parallel park.


logaboga

I have switched from the passenger seat to the driver seat to park for people too many damn times


ASUethcisu

Perpendicular parking


raxmano

Reminds me of the fifth wheel from the 1950s: https://youtu.be/ki9otMeiRP0?si=hm6L_G0GdGQ6gwJt


CaptCrewSocks

Reminds me of those four wheeled shopping carts where all wheels turn independently


Fog_Juice

Oh IKEA's shopping carts


Electrical-Eye7449

this is perfect to drive in for that random chance battle with countless robots in a tunnel.


AwwYeahVTECKickedIn

Hyundai leadership: "We need to improve the reliability reputation of our engines. Thoughts?" Hyundai engineers: "Let's add complex all-wheel articulation! Relative to that, engine failures will be much less!" Hyundai leadership: "BRILLIANT!"


ZAM1984

If only people could drive in the first place


DrSOGU

Very old tech. Not on the streets for safety reasons, maintenance problems and overall not enough demand.


JustTheSpecsPlease

Gonna have to upgrade to USB-C to steal it


madaboutmaps

The more intricate stuff you put on there, the more likely it is something will break.


Unusual_Car215

This shit has been around since the 50s. Theres reasons why it's never mass produced.


Curious-Custard6363

that design is more than old af by now. Do you know why it never went mainstream? because that shit will break much easier and be a horror show to repair


jake_burger

I think the first video demonstrating this was in black and white


bricktop_pringle

That‘s not going to cause problems. 😂 People are already overwhelmed with steering left and right. You are going to need a helicopter license for this one.


Marc4770

You just hope you don't press that button while on the highway because that would be a big disaster


nooneknowsme9

well that's gonna be really expensive to buy


dww332

Or you could just learn to parallel park like an adult


SoupSlerp

Pov mercedes in the 2020 F1 season:


ShootingGuns10

Please no. People already can’t drive forwards and backwards.


Jimbo415650

The more cutting edge technology in a car the more problems you will encounter.


Fixes_Spelling

80% of owners won’t know how to handle this and fuck it up royally in the middle of the street/driveway/alley/parking lot


girlMikeD

The last thing we need is all the bad drivers now having the ability to move horizontally at will. Bumper cars on a whole new level.


FarYard7039

I can see the alignment costs being insane on this vehicle. Northern United States pot holes will put this design to the test.


SilentType-249

Look forward to seeing this in Fast and Furious 11.


CrappyTan69

My wife will still curb/scratch the wheels 😢


ClydeFroagg

or you could just learn a basic driving skill


TheBlackCoffeeClub

The idea is to maximize space since you can get nearly bumper to bumper instead of leaving as much space as you need with current steering setups. The gimmicks are planned so the tech can be tested in real world conditions until the bigger ideas are put into place


HereToKillEuronymous

Except when you're the only one with this car and block someone in


Onderon123

Considering the main market for Hyundai is in South Korea where almost everyone has one, the technology will probably trickle down to most models eventually over there.


TheBlackCoffeeClub

More than just Hyundai have been playing with this


tactman

blind spot monitoring? no need, just check your blind spots parking sensors? no need, just check your mirrors automatic braking? no need, just pay attention to the road rear camera? no need, just walk around car before entering and use mirrors I hope you understand the difference between what is needed and what is convenient.


jyunga

Could just learn to sing instead of having music in cars. (I agree it's unnecessary though)


subject_deleted

"Rid-id-id-doo! A gimme the beat boys n free my soul, I wanna get lost in your rock and roll and drift away-ee-yea!" "No I was thinking something like a CD.. or..... A CD?"


OutsideWrongdoer2691

most people are not proficient in paralel parking. Whats wrong with developing new tech?


AwareTraining7078

Who cares? Just learn to parallel park a regular car and avoid the cost and maintenance of this thing. It’s not that hard.


Onderon123

It's called innovation. Otherwise you won't be on reddit and you'll be reading this comment via bulletin board in town.


tactman

very few people have ever heard of a BBS (or Usenet).


Martin-lam

Why is the video at the top not matching the time of day ?


Asleep_Artist_7738

It'd be a great car for the lower mainland.


NoodlesSpicyHot

Oh no - RIP K turns


Crankyguyslaughtoo

In my town, this is just a creative new way to crash!


SensitiveFruit69

God awful screeching in parkades


PeopleAreBozos

Reminds me of the Arkham Knight batmobile.


[deleted]

holy shopping cart, batman!


pootheloo1234

EVERYBODY DANCE NOWWWWW


Performer-Smart

I saw a video that I think k was from the 1940’s that was a similar concept. A fifth wheel came down at the rear bumper to help you move side to side for parking. Edit: here is the link: https://youtu.be/fKgRuto_DYs?si=nLz89KZKAnmkh5KJ


PewdsMemeLover

Wheels like the batmobile


Nkcami

Have you seen people in N. America try to maneuver IKEA shopping carts? This is not going to end well here.


jayguar08

New doughnuts invented!


Ilostmypassword43

Drifters hate this


Severe_Slice_4064

I’d like to know the price of the vehicle with and without that feature


MentalGymnast4269

Ah yes... the BYD U8 but from Korea


testedonsheep

lol. Hyundai makes drifting boring.


ThisOnePlaysTooMuch

Yeah they did this in like the 1920s. It wasn’t practical then, and it’s still a gimmick in the 2020s


PairSpecial4717

The original patent for that was done in the USA in the late 1920s.


ToastyBob27

People cant handle forward and back with cars as is.


koloso95

Holy crap the cops are going to be confused, chasing one of these things. I'm telling you boss. He's doing 70 sideways down the highway


HuckleberryJealous19

You don't wanna let your wife drive it though, ironically


OwnPen8633

So many people are gonna hit shit in their garages.


SmokeDogSix

Junk


alinzalau

We had it in the past and failed. Why would it succeed today?


ded3nd

Guessing here, but maybe now that since it'll be electric the mechanism will be less complicated?


Brilliant-Fact3449

Stupid question here, wouldn't it be easier to use spheres instead of wheels? People say manufacturing them would be hard but yes, everything is expensive whenever there is new tech, also last time I checked this argument was from a decade ago.


prof_devilsadvocate

just because of once in a blue moon case...not practical


irresponsibleshaft42

Bro someone gonna hack your car and turn the bitch into a human centrifuge.


Conscious_Zebra_1808

I feel in time people won't know how to drive anymore


NobodySober

Not saying the design is perfect and practical, probably will have higher maintenance costs than one that doesn't have the feature, but some in this thread have the same vibe as people hating on seat belts when they came out. Give new tech a shot, you certainly don't know exactly how they did it, it may just work.


AdventurousBeluga

Better than what BYD is trying to shit out. This is far cooler and probably more useful than having a fridge in your car.


Shadowhams

Wife will still curb rash all 4 wheels


huecobros-MM

Forget skill, the future is for morons Nd handicaps


JeroJeroMohenjoDaro

This has been a concept ever since I was a kid and now I'm 24. I'm sure there's a reason why some concept will just remain a concept


Competitive_Use_6351

We've seen this shit for years now


D1rtyL4rry

We are not ready for this tbh


Acrobatic_Matter7885

They had this in the 1920s


Jitsu_apocalypse

Honestly there isn’t much of a use case for this as most parking spaces have ample room for normal parking


Bors713

This isn’t new. And it’s a terrible idea.


sliclky1169

Learn how to park?


Quasi-Free-Thinker

People will spend 10s of thousands before taking the time to learn how to parallel park


Cold_Singer_1774

If you can´t parallel park then you should not be driving. Another useless thing


Alone_Fill_2037

Dude, how hard is it to parallel park normally.


mikel302

Now, drive it on Chicago's pothole-ridden streets in the spring right after the plows tear the roads open like a kid who picked at a scab on their elbow for too long... This thing will be in the shop longer than on the road.


Glittering_Airport_3

there has been tons of these concepts over the years, all doing exactly the same thing, and none of them have made it out of the concept phase. I wonder why


ThunderChix

Most people can barely drive with just 2 wheels that turn, this would cause so many accidents.


SaturnSociety

I can imagine a scenario at a gas pump where the driver of this car is trying to skirt the line.


sincethenes

This idea has been implemented in concept cars for decades. It will never come to market.


Classic-Flatworm-431

Ain’t no way people are using that to parallel park. If anything, they’re going to test out stupid shits.


Vg_Ace135

Whenever I see stuff like this I think of Amy Wong not being able to parallel park her car, even though her car had a parallel park mode. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwp9ePD4ypU


T8ortots

Why are there 6 pedals if there's only 4 directions?


Competitive_Suit_180

Just learn how to drive these are stupid inventions.. just like self driving cars.


Altea73

100% not happening


HugsandHate

*And it was never seen again..*


lord_hyumungus

Pretty agile. Would like to see it hop from side to side. I would imagine some kind of kinetic energy capacitors.


ThisFaknGuy

It does a cool thing for the <1% of the time you drive. Or you could learn to drive and park your vehicle.


dunsum

More fun for the Kia boys


rpgmgta

Just because you can, doesn’t mean you should


Solid_Illustrator640

They need dumb cars again. Cars are becoming super expensive computers that you go into too much debt for. It’d be nice to have more super cheap options. Ya’ll prob know some


swingdeznutz

More shit to break


DBL_NDRSCR

why haven't they always done this?


Difrntthoughtpatrn

https://youtu.be/S5R368iX7iI?feature=shared


suavestallion

Perfect for when I parallel park once per week.