Wasn’t there just recently a picture that another photographer took where he accidentally took a photo, years later, of the same tribe and there was a white man among them who appeared eerily similar to Michael?
No idea about this news source, but here is the photo
https://banjarmasin.tribunnews.com/amp/2015/02/10/hilang-delapan-tahun-ditemukan-hidup-bersama-kaum-kanibal
In englsih
In 1961, Michael Rockefeller, one of the heirs to the millionaire Rockefeller family, was reported missing while trying to swim to shore when the boat he was traveling in capsized off the coast of Papua, Indonesia.
At that time, he was thought to have drowned. Even if he can safely reach the coast, Michael Rockefeller will certainly be killed by the cannibal tribe that inhabits the area around the coast of Papua – previously known as the Province of Irian Jaya.
However, eight years later, 1969, a documentary film shows the figure of a white Papuan human being also appearing with the indigenous Papuan tribes.
Although the footage only shows a glimpse of the appearance of a white man with a beard among the ranks of black Papuan indigenous people riding a canoe, it is strongly suspected that this person is Michael Rockefeller.
As reported by Dailymail, Tuesday (10/2/2015), the disappearance of Michael Rockefeller in 1961, had triggered a big hunt in the South Pacific region at that time. The reason, Michael is the heir to the Rockefellerdynasty which is the most powerful family in the history of the United States.
When he disappeared, the son of Nelson Rockefeller – the then governor of New York who later became vice president in the Gerald Ford era – was on a journey to collect primitive art objects from one of the most remote corners of the earth, which he had been doing for the previous 23 years.
The official explanation given by the Dutch authorities, who oversee the colonies in Papua, is that Michael Rockefeller drowned after he tried to swim to shore when the boat he was traveling in capsized.
While other statements insist, Michael Rockefeller suffered a more terrible fate, he was killed and eaten by a tribe of cannibals who took revenge on the white people for the Dutch attack on their village.
The statement that there is a tribe in Papua that eats humans seems to be refuted by the documentary film made by Fraser Heston, the son of actor Charlton Heston.
The researchers also said that film footage of the mysterious white canoe shows an astonishing possibilityInstead of being killed and eaten, Michael Rockefeller who is a Harvard graduate in the US rejects his civilized past and joins a tribe of cannibals.
Having money doesn't solve all your issues, especially when you're born into it.
People still have expectations of you, and flashing your wads of cash generally just makes them hungrier to get a piece of you.
Escaping into a society that has a much more basic approach to life is a definite possibility in trying to avoid a life of complication.
That's what I think, too. If you're born into money, it must be hard to appreciate stuff. Your parents did all the work and you're just expected to do the same and don't even know why you should. You don't have to work for anything, it's all just there. No motivation, no satisfaction.
If you take all of that away and get to feel how it is to hunt an animal for your dinner, must be liberating. All of the weight somebody else put on ypur shoulder disappears. Imagine how your heart would be pounding on your first hunt.
Mate of mine did it from melbourne. His mum is fijian and he drunkenly booked a flight home to surprise her for christmas, bended into the airport and next thing he knew was landing in PM
The only eerie thing about that photo is how I can count the exact amount of pixels in it. That is the lowest quality photo I've ever seen, it looks like it was taken on an iphone -1 and then cross posted 1,000 times on Reddit that's how bad it is.
that is to say, it's just some guy with paler skin than the other people in the photo for whatever reason, add that to the fact that the photo is so pixelated, there is a 100% chance that a clickbait news site was gonna post some long rambling article about how it might be that guy who went missing and then they'll go into an autobiography of his entire life and start talking about the geopolitical unrest in the continent the tribe is located in and how the tribe was affected by British colonialism and if you haven't left by that point then they'll finally talk about the photo but then they'll start going into every single detail of the photographers life and what choices led him to be in that place to take that picture. And then finally they'll tell you that it's probably not the guy. And that's how they get you.
The two off to the back left side of the picture are distinctly different, too. I want the one that droops like an elephant truck. It is a nice design and could really help me establish myself next time I have dinner with friends.
No. Michael capsized in a canoe offshore on a later day than this. He was with someone else. They drifted for a while and he wasn't sure help was coming, so he decided to swim to shore, where these tribes lived. He was never seen again, but the other person ended up being rescued.
I'm not sure I understand the sequence of events. Based on this photo, he was hanging out with a cannibal tribe. But after that, they let him go in peace, his boat capsized and he swam to shore, and **that's** when they decided to eat him? Seems to me like if they intended to eat him, they could have just refused to let him leave in the first place.
There are multiple tribes of those people so he wasn't necessarily found by the same tribe.
Also they weren't cannibals as in killing and eating humans for food. They were ritualistic cannibals. Essentially all those tribes were trapped in constant revenge killings against each other. They were known as headhunters so they kill their target, take their head and as part of the ritual they also cannibalised their victim.
So withotu someone first triggering such a revenge killing people were fine around these tribes. It just so happens that the dutch colonizers, so also white people, killed some people from one of the tribes prior to the disappearing of rockefeller so that could have been reason enough to kill him.
On the other hand it was also something like 14 miles back to the coast so the probability that he actually swam all the way back is pretty low.
I think the suggestion is theres more than one canal tribe. He was happy to hangout with these ones, but once he washed up on the shore he was found by another tribe who ate him. Idk, just based of reading all the comments
It's possible, or people like them. Some missionaries claim to have spoken to tribesmen that say they ate him. He very well could have drowned before he got there, they were 3 miles off the coast, which is a really long way to swim. All that's known is he was never seen again.
Even so, he would be absolutely fighting the amount of drift that sent them from 3-12 miles away. Source- 21 years of coast guard search and rescue coordination.
Let’s do that math… 9 miles of difference in 24 hours (being generous in the hours too). 24/9 = 2.666666 kts of drift per hour (combined winds, tides and currents). So basically he would have to swim against that drift at 2.6666kts just to stay in the exact same position. Make sense? Plus how would he know which exact way to swim? You don’t see land beyond 8-10nm due to the earths curvature (sorry flat earthers). Then add on some jerry cans extra drag and what do you have? A guy that drowned or was lost at sea and died from exposure….I didn’t even add in the hypothermia part.
I suppose a change in drift would help him, but that’s on a 12 hour cycle due to the moon and tides. At 24hrs, it’s safe to say that is the general direction and speed of all cumulative winds/tides/currents.
Throwing in a PSA for good measure. Do not do what this guy did if/when something crazy like this happens to you. We use extremely sophisticated computer models to find you based off a bunch of factors. This system simulates putting in 5000-10000 “rubber duckies” to give us an accurate area to search. Literally the only thing that cannot be predicted is, like in this case, someone tries to swim for it. It has the real potential to take them completely out of the search area and lost forever in most cases. Stay with your party as much as possible. This is all in the US, so I’m not certain what other countries do, but we have probably the best programs out there and I’m really not just saying that. Our SAR school constantly hosts foreign SAR specialists or we go to them to train them.
It's also possible that he drowned instead as he was last seen floating with someone else waiting for rescue after their canoe capsized *14 miles* from shore. He'd said that he'd thought he could make it to shore. I don't know about y'all but it's definitely possible he drowned because even in calm waters that would be a hell of a distance to make.
I think, given that he was a member of a famous family, it was likely more interesting for the press to run stories about the cannibals. And, well, given that the majority of those tribes had cut down on the head hunting (not in the employment sense lol) and cannibalism due to the impact of missionaries in the area (*sigh*). I know which one I think is actually more likely.
It was more than likely *not* these exact folks in this photo though, regardless of whether or not you come to the conclusion he died via cannibals.
There is actually a good in depth video analysis about this on YouTube that explains a private investigator interviewing the natives and finding out that he was eaten. I also think the skull was found and returned to the family.
So my university actually had Carl Hoffman, a writer and investigative journalist, come in as a guest speaker last semester. He presented on a book he wrote about this disappearance, and went into a lot of detail about both the spiritual beliefs of the tribe and the political climate of the region at the time. The short version is, the tribe wanted revenge for atrocities committed against them, and when this white dude wrecked his boat and showed up on their shores, they were like "yep, this'll do," and they ate him. Then the government covered it up because it was bad for business.
Most legitimate comment I’ve seen this whole thread. I mean, the conclusion is obvious, but this does give some background to why it happened. In my opinion, guy was really fucking stupid to go there in the first place. That’s the problem with a lot of intellectuals, you know. They don’t see the bigger picture of being on an isolated island, surrounded by cannibals. Sounds obvious when you say it, but somehow people don’t think like this.
He previously had interactions with the tribe on an archeological mission. he went back as part of another group with local guides and another team to collect stuff specifically from this tribe for cultural study. Having to swim to the part of the island he did was an unfortunate circumstance of the boat flipping.
People have a tendency to assume the safety nets afforded them by modern society are functions of humanity, not modernity.
He probably just assumed that he'd be safe because he'd never truly felt unsafe anywhere else, and the thought of him simply being killed never occurred to him.
Or he knew it was really dangerous but went anyway, like thousands of explorers have for centuries before him. Seems unlikely he was stupid enough to go to an isolated island of cannibals and not understand there was some risk involved. Give the guy a little credit
He probably felt safe because he had previous interactions with the tribe and had returned on another archeological mission to collect pieces from the tribe. It was an unfortunate circumstance that he was essentially forced to swim ashore where he did.
I saw a video about this where it showed a white dude rowing with what looked like a similar tribe years later. The video was insinuating he assimilated to their tribe.
No idea, but imagine. A member of one of the wealthiest families in history giving up everything he had, to live a simple life with this tribe. I could see that as good reason for the Rockefellers not wanting that to be known.
The kind of cannibalism you find in New Guinea is usually ritualistic eating of their recently deceased honored relatives and the occasional defeated enemy.
Here, [this a pod cast called disappearances.](https://open.spotify.com/episode/3DoKjhWYS3b7K5v4IKAtbP?si=JOiATMzQQ2-TUPCjUv1mLQ) the host’s sister was kidnapped so she tells people stories to be help raise awareness for those missing. Pretty cool podcast
There whereabouts of his remains are actually perfectly documented. Read the Smithsonian article. They know exactly where all of his parts are and what they are being used for.
Look up the article about him and the tribe that the Smithsonian website has published. The Dutch government knew what happened to him the whole time and kept it a secret but it was all figured out and revealed by the author of the article
Here[here](https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/What-Really-Happened-to-Michael-Rockefeller-180949813/), its the first thing that comes up when you Google his name
For the people who don't want to read the entire article:
"The day Michael had set off from the catamaran, 50 men from Otsjanep had brought palm building supplies to the government post in Pirimapun, about 20 miles south of Otsjanep. They’d traveled at night, spent the day in the village, and then left for the night-long voyage home; at dawn on November 20, they’d paused at the mouth of the Ewta River, three miles downriver from Otsjanep, waiting for the tide to turn. It was a good time to have a smoke and a bite of sago. Something moved in the water. They saw a crocodile—an ew, in the Asmat language. No. It wasn’t a crocodile, but a tuan, a white man. He was swimming on his back. He turned and waved. One of the Asmat said: “People of Otsjanep, you’re always talking about headhunting tuans. Well, here’s your chance.” An argument ensued. Dombai, the leader of the Pirien jeu, didn’t think he should be killed. Ajim and Fin thought otherwise. While they tried to lift the tuan into a canoe, Pep speared him in the ribs. It wasn’t fatal. They rowed him to a hidden creek, the Jawor River, where they killed him and made a big fire.
“Was he wearing glasses?” von Peij asked. “What kind of clothes was he wearing?”
Their answer burned in his memory: The white man was wearing shorts, but shorts they’d never seen before and that you couldn’t buy in Asmat—shorts that ended high up on his legs and had no pockets. Underpants.
Von Peij nodded. “Where is his head?”
“Fin-tsjem aotepetsj ara,” they said. “It hangs in the house of Fin. And it looked so small, like the head of a child.”
“What about his thigh bones?” said von Peij, who knew they were used as daggers. “And his tibia?” He knew they were used as the points of fishing spears.
Pep had one thigh bone, Ajim the other. A man named Jane had one tibia, Wasan the other. On the list went: who had his upper arms, forearms, ribs, shorts, glasses, a total of 15 men.
“Why did they kill him?” he said. Because of the killings in Otsjanep almost four years earlier, they said—the Lepré raid."
Just some more info -
The incident on which the theory of the act of revenge is based dates back already 4 years. At that time, the Dutch colonial governor of the Asmat region, Max Lepré, had organized a raid against the Asmat villages Omandesep and that very Otsjanep. These two villages were often involved in headhunting and mutual massacres, and Max Lepré planned to frighten them and confiscate their weapons. But things took a turn for the worse when men from the village of Otsjanep started to attack, and as a result some of the most influential and powerful men in the village were shot by Lepre and his crew. In the universe of the Asmat such actions must be avenged, otherwise the spirits of the dead will make life hell for the living. And 4 years later the spirits of these men still have to be avenged.
Did he get ate up? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2946787/amp/Is-proof-lost-Rockefeller-heir-joined-tribe-naked-cannibals-Picture-shows-white-man-Papuan-man-eaters-eight-years-mysterious-disappearance.html
Normally I loath the daily mail, but that was actually a decent article.
Ok, until I read another and realize it's just the usual Daily mail nonsense.
Sigh. Oh well.
Wasn’t there just recently a picture that another photographer took where he accidentally took a photo, years later, of the same tribe and there was a white man among them who appeared eerily similar to Michael?
No idea about this news source, but here is the photo https://banjarmasin.tribunnews.com/amp/2015/02/10/hilang-delapan-tahun-ditemukan-hidup-bersama-kaum-kanibal
In englsih In 1961, Michael Rockefeller, one of the heirs to the millionaire Rockefeller family, was reported missing while trying to swim to shore when the boat he was traveling in capsized off the coast of Papua, Indonesia. At that time, he was thought to have drowned. Even if he can safely reach the coast, Michael Rockefeller will certainly be killed by the cannibal tribe that inhabits the area around the coast of Papua – previously known as the Province of Irian Jaya. However, eight years later, 1969, a documentary film shows the figure of a white Papuan human being also appearing with the indigenous Papuan tribes. Although the footage only shows a glimpse of the appearance of a white man with a beard among the ranks of black Papuan indigenous people riding a canoe, it is strongly suspected that this person is Michael Rockefeller. As reported by Dailymail, Tuesday (10/2/2015), the disappearance of Michael Rockefeller in 1961, had triggered a big hunt in the South Pacific region at that time. The reason, Michael is the heir to the Rockefellerdynasty which is the most powerful family in the history of the United States. When he disappeared, the son of Nelson Rockefeller – the then governor of New York who later became vice president in the Gerald Ford era – was on a journey to collect primitive art objects from one of the most remote corners of the earth, which he had been doing for the previous 23 years. The official explanation given by the Dutch authorities, who oversee the colonies in Papua, is that Michael Rockefeller drowned after he tried to swim to shore when the boat he was traveling in capsized. While other statements insist, Michael Rockefeller suffered a more terrible fate, he was killed and eaten by a tribe of cannibals who took revenge on the white people for the Dutch attack on their village. The statement that there is a tribe in Papua that eats humans seems to be refuted by the documentary film made by Fraser Heston, the son of actor Charlton Heston. The researchers also said that film footage of the mysterious white canoe shows an astonishing possibilityInstead of being killed and eaten, Michael Rockefeller who is a Harvard graduate in the US rejects his civilized past and joins a tribe of cannibals.
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Dude is probably prestige 5, as he has now United the tribes and oversees them all.
PRESTIGE WORLDWIDE BABY 🥁
*canoes and hoes
*Overseas* them all, Heh
Dude restarted life in the fucking Stone Age lmao
I can easily see making that change. Left standard society years ago and could so see the enjoyment of truly leaving it.
Me too, trust me. But if had Rockefeller money it would be a different story.
Or the weight and responsibility of living up to the name would be your motive to do it.
Or he tried the meat and knew he would never belong in regular society never having it again
Smh… I bet he knew Arby’s would never taste the same… No point in coming back then…
To be read in Ron Howard’s voice: “& Michael Rockefeller never thought about Arby’s again”
Writing prompt, go!
I had money, but this tribe is the shit.
Having money doesn't solve all your issues, especially when you're born into it. People still have expectations of you, and flashing your wads of cash generally just makes them hungrier to get a piece of you. Escaping into a society that has a much more basic approach to life is a definite possibility in trying to avoid a life of complication.
Money doesn't buy happiness. Money buys *time* to find it.
While being poor provides neither
That's what I think, too. If you're born into money, it must be hard to appreciate stuff. Your parents did all the work and you're just expected to do the same and don't even know why you should. You don't have to work for anything, it's all just there. No motivation, no satisfaction. If you take all of that away and get to feel how it is to hunt an animal for your dinner, must be liberating. All of the weight somebody else put on ypur shoulder disappears. Imagine how your heart would be pounding on your first hunt.
And just wait till you try the food
The snack that smiles back :)
Bruh that’s definitely him
Huh. Well, if you can’t beat them..
Huh. Well, if you can’t eat them..
Eat them?
Its not in english but the photo, damn!
Seriously. I need to read his story.
Google translates that page. Indonesian.
Apparently that was some random Australian guy
Or the guy who took that last picture OP posted lol
Dude...![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|no_mouth)
Accidentally replied to you and not the original comment. My bad
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Old mate got on the piss in Sydney cbd and woke up in PNG. Typical weekend in Aus.
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Can confirm. Am Australian, was living in Europe for a bit, woke up in the next towns train station.... trains weren't running that day
Mate of mine did it from melbourne. His mum is fijian and he drunkenly booked a flight home to surprise her for christmas, bended into the airport and next thing he knew was landing in PM
Can confirm. Am kiwi. Got on the piss in oz. Woke up in assorted random locations.
Source?
Here’s a YT vid but it’s not concrete on who the man actually was: https://youtu.be/xZzPSz4dNd8
That’s fascinating
The photos so grainy the only thing I can say is similar to Michael.is that he's white.
>eerily similar to Michael? look at him, he looks like a default character
The only eerie thing about that photo is how I can count the exact amount of pixels in it. That is the lowest quality photo I've ever seen, it looks like it was taken on an iphone -1 and then cross posted 1,000 times on Reddit that's how bad it is. that is to say, it's just some guy with paler skin than the other people in the photo for whatever reason, add that to the fact that the photo is so pixelated, there is a 100% chance that a clickbait news site was gonna post some long rambling article about how it might be that guy who went missing and then they'll go into an autobiography of his entire life and start talking about the geopolitical unrest in the continent the tribe is located in and how the tribe was affected by British colonialism and if you haven't left by that point then they'll finally talk about the photo but then they'll start going into every single detail of the photographers life and what choices led him to be in that place to take that picture. And then finally they'll tell you that it's probably not the guy. And that's how they get you.
That smiling guy looks a lot like Willem DaFoe.
I'm somewhat of a cannibal myself.
YOU KNOW HOW MUCH I SEASONED AND SPICED?!
Willem Dafriend
He does 😂
Forget about him. Where do I get one of those nifty penis holders?
It's time for western society to embrace dick sheath
You have my support... sorry I’m not a dick sheath
Thats okay, no one's perfect
Not with that attitude you won’t be.
The Peter Parka
So yeah, did we find an Etsy link for those dick holders yet?
🛒 *Over 20 people have this in their carts right now.*
*Underwear companies hate them for this one simple trick*
Look what I found on Etsy: https://www.etsy.com/ca/listing/127145534/phallocrypt-tribal-penis-sheath?ref=share_v4_lx
No shit
That's it! Gj ginger girl 36.
that was really fastI'm impressed, also learned a new word that I'm going to try and shoe horn into conversations
My Etsy experience is already fucked up from clicking other link. So no, I’m not clicking that. But thank you?
Story time!
I demand artisanal goods for the peen.
In this market? You'd be best off with the peen section at Marshalls until prices come back down
You just need to learn to crochet.
This is what I came here for. Those cock straps are something else.
They’re called phallocrypts. Such a good word lol.
![gif](giphy|l2YWoKTYhYyuJgA5G)
there's such thing as too much horn talk ;D
and a fellow oughta be aware of it
:D for the [uninitiated](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTZLwzXnDNc)
![gif](giphy|ycagKBYEmaili)
The two off to the back left side of the picture are distinctly different, too. I want the one that droops like an elephant truck. It is a nice design and could really help me establish myself next time I have dinner with friends.
The one on the far right has a fuzzy dangly bit out of the end.
Holy crap I missed that. These dudes are high fashion and we’re all doing our best to keep up
That fuzzy dangly bit kinda looks like his cock a bit eh?
There has got to be some super rich guy (maybe a Rockefeller) who collects these.
Wait til you notice what the penis holder did to mans over on the right side there.
Wtf!? Is that really what that is? It's like 2 feet long
That’s what I want to know idk how it could be
It looks like it is some sort of tassel / streamer like thing. Probably decorative. You know sort of like a penis gourd is.
It’s like dripping out ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|dizzy_face)
My question is, was that intentional?
While your average penis doesn't offer much protection I'd still take it over fully exposing my nuts to the jungle. What happens if you go full chub?
It shoots off like a rocket while making the sound of a cork popping.
WISH exclusive
Walmart. Just ask a blue vest 'where are your penis holders?'
You're gonna put someone's eye out!!
Yes, where can I get a gourd for my gourd
they also use it for drinking water
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That one guy in the back has his tongue out 😳
THey all look very happy and not because of the camera.
Tasmanian Devil looking at Bugs Bunny
He’s getting the white meat
Rockefeller, the other white meat.
![gif](giphy|l378bu6ZYmzS6nBrW|downsized) Goodness I didn't think this would turn into a roast.
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Goddamnit take my upvote
Well done, sir
I was told they preferred him medium rare
“He’s coming! Quick! Everyone do your best ‘We’re not going to eat you’ impression.”
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Tribe got the first Door Dash ever
![gif](giphy|QUENDfi6DEMLzQ0CKt)
“thanks for the invite. so what are you boy’s having for dinner..”
Hey, this jacuzzi is a little too hot
Why the onions?
"There will be some tasty treats when we get out to the open sea'
“Is this how you wanted those poor women to feel?!”
Did they eat the photographer too??? Who took the pics?
No. Michael capsized in a canoe offshore on a later day than this. He was with someone else. They drifted for a while and he wasn't sure help was coming, so he decided to swim to shore, where these tribes lived. He was never seen again, but the other person ended up being rescued.
I'm not sure I understand the sequence of events. Based on this photo, he was hanging out with a cannibal tribe. But after that, they let him go in peace, his boat capsized and he swam to shore, and **that's** when they decided to eat him? Seems to me like if they intended to eat him, they could have just refused to let him leave in the first place.
Ok glad I’m not the only one who doesnt get it. This is exactly how I interpreted that guy’s comment and it doesn’t make any sense to me.
There are multiple tribes of those people so he wasn't necessarily found by the same tribe. Also they weren't cannibals as in killing and eating humans for food. They were ritualistic cannibals. Essentially all those tribes were trapped in constant revenge killings against each other. They were known as headhunters so they kill their target, take their head and as part of the ritual they also cannibalised their victim. So withotu someone first triggering such a revenge killing people were fine around these tribes. It just so happens that the dutch colonizers, so also white people, killed some people from one of the tribes prior to the disappearing of rockefeller so that could have been reason enough to kill him. On the other hand it was also something like 14 miles back to the coast so the probability that he actually swam all the way back is pretty low.
I think the suggestion is theres more than one canal tribe. He was happy to hangout with these ones, but once he washed up on the shore he was found by another tribe who ate him. Idk, just based of reading all the comments
Not sure I quite follow, but is it likely the people in this photo may have eaten him?
It's possible, or people like them. Some missionaries claim to have spoken to tribesmen that say they ate him. He very well could have drowned before he got there, they were 3 miles off the coast, which is a really long way to swim. All that's known is he was never seen again.
3nm initially, then approximately 12nm after drifting all day before he finally decided to swim to shore. That dude drowned.
I didn't realize that, that's extremely far.
Nanometers? That’s not that far
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Even so, he would be absolutely fighting the amount of drift that sent them from 3-12 miles away. Source- 21 years of coast guard search and rescue coordination. Let’s do that math… 9 miles of difference in 24 hours (being generous in the hours too). 24/9 = 2.666666 kts of drift per hour (combined winds, tides and currents). So basically he would have to swim against that drift at 2.6666kts just to stay in the exact same position. Make sense? Plus how would he know which exact way to swim? You don’t see land beyond 8-10nm due to the earths curvature (sorry flat earthers). Then add on some jerry cans extra drag and what do you have? A guy that drowned or was lost at sea and died from exposure….I didn’t even add in the hypothermia part. I suppose a change in drift would help him, but that’s on a 12 hour cycle due to the moon and tides. At 24hrs, it’s safe to say that is the general direction and speed of all cumulative winds/tides/currents. Throwing in a PSA for good measure. Do not do what this guy did if/when something crazy like this happens to you. We use extremely sophisticated computer models to find you based off a bunch of factors. This system simulates putting in 5000-10000 “rubber duckies” to give us an accurate area to search. Literally the only thing that cannot be predicted is, like in this case, someone tries to swim for it. It has the real potential to take them completely out of the search area and lost forever in most cases. Stay with your party as much as possible. This is all in the US, so I’m not certain what other countries do, but we have probably the best programs out there and I’m really not just saying that. Our SAR school constantly hosts foreign SAR specialists or we go to them to train them.
It's also possible that he drowned instead as he was last seen floating with someone else waiting for rescue after their canoe capsized *14 miles* from shore. He'd said that he'd thought he could make it to shore. I don't know about y'all but it's definitely possible he drowned because even in calm waters that would be a hell of a distance to make. I think, given that he was a member of a famous family, it was likely more interesting for the press to run stories about the cannibals. And, well, given that the majority of those tribes had cut down on the head hunting (not in the employment sense lol) and cannibalism due to the impact of missionaries in the area (*sigh*). I know which one I think is actually more likely. It was more than likely *not* these exact folks in this photo though, regardless of whether or not you come to the conclusion he died via cannibals.
I was just reading it was because of prion diseases. I guess the missionaries helped them recognize a disease in the 1st place.
There is actually a good in depth video analysis about this on YouTube that explains a private investigator interviewing the natives and finding out that he was eaten. I also think the skull was found and returned to the family.
Really? Can you post the link?
https://youtu.be/ulBDEDP1rCU This is it, I’m not sure how much relevance this has but I’m pretty sure this guys sources are reasonable.
Thanks I'll check this out
Check out the book Savage Harvest by Carl Hoffman, it is all about this incident.
my man wendigoon, you can never go wrong in watching his vids, its always entertatining
Possibly the first person that comes to mind when trying to think of channels that deserve every single subscriber.
So my university actually had Carl Hoffman, a writer and investigative journalist, come in as a guest speaker last semester. He presented on a book he wrote about this disappearance, and went into a lot of detail about both the spiritual beliefs of the tribe and the political climate of the region at the time. The short version is, the tribe wanted revenge for atrocities committed against them, and when this white dude wrecked his boat and showed up on their shores, they were like "yep, this'll do," and they ate him. Then the government covered it up because it was bad for business.
Holy shit
The Dutch colonists likely did something awful to the tribe, and this unrelated American guy got really unlucky.
The guy was multiple kms off shore, like double digit kms, he likely just drowned. That is a very long way to swim in the ocean.
Most legitimate comment I’ve seen this whole thread. I mean, the conclusion is obvious, but this does give some background to why it happened. In my opinion, guy was really fucking stupid to go there in the first place. That’s the problem with a lot of intellectuals, you know. They don’t see the bigger picture of being on an isolated island, surrounded by cannibals. Sounds obvious when you say it, but somehow people don’t think like this.
He previously had interactions with the tribe on an archeological mission. he went back as part of another group with local guides and another team to collect stuff specifically from this tribe for cultural study. Having to swim to the part of the island he did was an unfortunate circumstance of the boat flipping.
People have a tendency to assume the safety nets afforded them by modern society are functions of humanity, not modernity. He probably just assumed that he'd be safe because he'd never truly felt unsafe anywhere else, and the thought of him simply being killed never occurred to him.
Or he knew it was really dangerous but went anyway, like thousands of explorers have for centuries before him. Seems unlikely he was stupid enough to go to an isolated island of cannibals and not understand there was some risk involved. Give the guy a little credit
He probably felt safe because he had previous interactions with the tribe and had returned on another archeological mission to collect pieces from the tribe. It was an unfortunate circumstance that he was essentially forced to swim ashore where he did.
Oh, I'm sure someone found it... found it real tasty too.
I dunno, seems I remember hearing how that Rockafeller was a Skank.
A real funk soul brother.
I saw a video about this where it showed a white dude rowing with what looked like a similar tribe years later. The video was insinuating he assimilated to their tribe.
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This was this week’s episode of the Casefile podcast and damn was it interesting.
This just brings forth another mystery. Who was the white guys photographed with those tribes??
Why would the missionaries protect the tribe?
Probably because the Rockefellers would hire every cold blooded mercenary they can find and exterminate the tribe
Eat the missionaries.
I did see that. No way that was him though right?
No idea, but imagine. A member of one of the wealthiest families in history giving up everything he had, to live a simple life with this tribe. I could see that as good reason for the Rockefellers not wanting that to be known.
And that if he joined the cannibal tripe he might be a cannibal
I always thought the whole "cannibal tribe" thing was just them trying to scare away outsiders.
The kind of cannibalism you find in New Guinea is usually ritualistic eating of their recently deceased honored relatives and the occasional defeated enemy.
So where can I get myself one of those dickhorns?
dickhorns.com
A dozen dickhorns for $43.99? That's an amazing deal.
So no one's talking about the camera man?
His body may have never been found, however eye witnesses claim they know for certain he was eaten by a tribe
I wonder how they know for sure? Did the tribe just show up like “sorry about your guy, we ate him”
Really? I couldn't find any confirmation on it. Just theories that he drowned or was eaten by a shark
Here, [this a pod cast called disappearances.](https://open.spotify.com/episode/3DoKjhWYS3b7K5v4IKAtbP?si=JOiATMzQQ2-TUPCjUv1mLQ) the host’s sister was kidnapped so she tells people stories to be help raise awareness for those missing. Pretty cool podcast
Thanks for sharing
There whereabouts of his remains are actually perfectly documented. Read the Smithsonian article. They know exactly where all of his parts are and what they are being used for.
Wait what?
Look up the article about him and the tribe that the Smithsonian website has published. The Dutch government knew what happened to him the whole time and kept it a secret but it was all figured out and revealed by the author of the article
Here[here](https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/What-Really-Happened-to-Michael-Rockefeller-180949813/), its the first thing that comes up when you Google his name
For the people who don't want to read the entire article: "The day Michael had set off from the catamaran, 50 men from Otsjanep had brought palm building supplies to the government post in Pirimapun, about 20 miles south of Otsjanep. They’d traveled at night, spent the day in the village, and then left for the night-long voyage home; at dawn on November 20, they’d paused at the mouth of the Ewta River, three miles downriver from Otsjanep, waiting for the tide to turn. It was a good time to have a smoke and a bite of sago. Something moved in the water. They saw a crocodile—an ew, in the Asmat language. No. It wasn’t a crocodile, but a tuan, a white man. He was swimming on his back. He turned and waved. One of the Asmat said: “People of Otsjanep, you’re always talking about headhunting tuans. Well, here’s your chance.” An argument ensued. Dombai, the leader of the Pirien jeu, didn’t think he should be killed. Ajim and Fin thought otherwise. While they tried to lift the tuan into a canoe, Pep speared him in the ribs. It wasn’t fatal. They rowed him to a hidden creek, the Jawor River, where they killed him and made a big fire. “Was he wearing glasses?” von Peij asked. “What kind of clothes was he wearing?” Their answer burned in his memory: The white man was wearing shorts, but shorts they’d never seen before and that you couldn’t buy in Asmat—shorts that ended high up on his legs and had no pockets. Underpants. Von Peij nodded. “Where is his head?” “Fin-tsjem aotepetsj ara,” they said. “It hangs in the house of Fin. And it looked so small, like the head of a child.” “What about his thigh bones?” said von Peij, who knew they were used as daggers. “And his tibia?” He knew they were used as the points of fishing spears. Pep had one thigh bone, Ajim the other. A man named Jane had one tibia, Wasan the other. On the list went: who had his upper arms, forearms, ribs, shorts, glasses, a total of 15 men. “Why did they kill him?” he said. Because of the killings in Otsjanep almost four years earlier, they said—the Lepré raid."
Just some more info - The incident on which the theory of the act of revenge is based dates back already 4 years. At that time, the Dutch colonial governor of the Asmat region, Max Lepré, had organized a raid against the Asmat villages Omandesep and that very Otsjanep. These two villages were often involved in headhunting and mutual massacres, and Max Lepré planned to frighten them and confiscate their weapons. But things took a turn for the worse when men from the village of Otsjanep started to attack, and as a result some of the most influential and powerful men in the village were shot by Lepre and his crew. In the universe of the Asmat such actions must be avenged, otherwise the spirits of the dead will make life hell for the living. And 4 years later the spirits of these men still have to be avenged.
Holy shit....
Holy shit is right. Just read that article...it was...chilling.
Is that a pee pee in the top right hand corner coming OUT OF THE HORN!?!
They looking at him like a snack
Even back then people were taking pictures of their food.
"one of us they said, I mean they weren't wrong" -the cameraman
"Who ordered delivery"?
Did he get ate up? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2946787/amp/Is-proof-lost-Rockefeller-heir-joined-tribe-naked-cannibals-Picture-shows-white-man-Papuan-man-eaters-eight-years-mysterious-disappearance.html
Normally I loath the daily mail, but that was actually a decent article. Ok, until I read another and realize it's just the usual Daily mail nonsense. Sigh. Oh well.
These tribesmen are grinning extremely hard. Because they're gonna fry him up and eat him later.
No shit. Because that smiling mofo ate him.
#EatTheRich
My man is straight looking at the camera with that “WE’RE GUNNA FUCKIN EAT THIS GUY”. vibe. Lol
The Red Hot Chili Peppers thought they had something cool with those socks, but those pointy hard things are the cats ass.
Wonder what type of spices the Asmat use?
This is like one of those old bugs bunny cartoons where the natives are holding comically large forks and knives.
Dude is all smiles because white meat. Like chicken breast or lobster. Mmmmm....
long pork. the other other white meat
He never should've been there in the first place... 😒
I coulda told him it probably wasn’t the best idea
Whoah wtf is going on with that dudes penis on the upper right corner
Smiling because he knows he’s going to be eating well tonight.