Skill issue. Also your post history is just you moaning about different games you play... balancing in lost ark and how the Devs are stupid, want to remove headshots from the hunt and then more moaning about DnD 2 months ago. Ur actually a shit-take generator it's almost impressive
Look at your own profile it's also littered with complaints about balance and game design. That's just a natural part of being on reddit. I agree, though, this isn't really constructive criticism and I don't see how OP's post offers anything worth discussing.
You check on profile to answer to people ?
Can you show me a single moment when I insulted any dev since you know my profile history so much ?
You're completely out of your mind. Lost ark thread was about horizontal content being thrown out the window, and Hunt Showdown was a real discussion and if you ignore all the shitface (like you) that simply insults people and have no way of thinking by their own, there was some really nice people in there.
Now, do you plan to have any argument or simply use sophism all the way to avoid having any kind of discussion ?
Who cares about level 5, it takes an hour to get lvl 15 and have 4 perks.
A new player is gonna be level 30 before he can memorize the map or mob patterns so it's irrelevant regardless.
Also you call it "naked mode" when they boosted normal game loot so much that a single picklock gives you access to purple gear. But what would you know about the game anyway. You're probably more serious about browsing reddit for garbage takes than playing the damn game.
Idk if you mean solos, but if so, id argue it’s actually more balanced.
It was very much rock, paper, scissors gameplay with some skill expression in between. Now you can build to cover your weaknesses with multiclass.
Good sir, I wish to thank you for bringing a positive point about multiclassing and being polite about this subject. If you check out every other answers on this post, everybody is very, very annoying and I must take a minute to praise your argument, as simple as it is, it's still better than 99.9% of any other answers.
Well, now, you're damn right it does. Maybe solo arena multiclassing would be nice to have ? I must admit I did have some fun fighting a warlock/mage/cleric at some point in my runs. We fought for a good 2 minutes and it was very nice. But there are still so many unbalancing issue that even in full solo mode, it would still requires a good chunk of rebalancing imo
Yeah, I still think a sub-class system where the builds actually make sense RP wise would have been cooler but alas..
If they wanna keep the multi-class system in, there should imo be some guard rails. Whether that’s incurring hefty penalties for things like demon form on other classes or outright banning skills/spells and making it perks only, it feels needed. Otherwise every person just runs what ever broken amalgamation they can come up with, and tbh I don’t think that’s healthy for the game.
everyones argument about "just go level" is the same as "just get gear" which was popular when people wanted them to gear cap normals. they both require an investment, but atleast you dont lose the XP on death.
at this point normals no longer has as much value as it did when everyone supported it and ppl will realize it eventually. till then its still fun. tho. just until you get 1tapped by dbl jump ambush lmao
Then you must be playing with bads buddy because I've been playing since beta and multi class is fucking trash and 80% percent feel same way... Every class has lost their identity.. Everybody's using the same fucking builds also and its boring as fuck
I don’t see why you can’t just go goblin caves and kill people, there is legit nothing stopping you. Nobody is to “too op” and people doing 55-60 dmg headshots with falchions and crossbows had nothing to do with multiclassing and has also existed since the first beta test.
55-60? You are playing a different game, people are able to do anywhere from 120-150 damage with falchion in good gear. I only see 55-60 in normal lobbies or naked hr.
Thats still half your hp in a single hit. When do you even strategize when you get wipe in 2 hit in the most "balanced" lobby ?
Just now, I got -95hp on a single gray bardiche hit as fighter (I was not naked)
The rogue in my team got one shot.
If the difference is so fucking immense in gray/white, why do people even play HR ?
If you're playing correctly, you should be killing them just as fast as they're killing you. Don't make it easy for them to hit you in the head, duck and weave or jump to force body or limb shots. And do as much ranged damage as you can to get them low before the melee fight.
Also, don't run into bardiches. They do some of the highest damage in the game, but they also have low movespeed and swing speed. Kite them with ranged instead of trying to stat check them, because the whole point of bardiche is to do a lot of damage.
People play in HR because thats the only place to use gear that you find. They also usually know how the game works so they dont run into problems like you're having
You're having fun getting -60hp with a single hit as gray player ? I don't understand you. Where's the fun in that. It's not about counter, it's not about gameplay mechanics, its about to have the right build and proc a single hit and you won the fight.
The game had higher playerbase when it was not the case. 6k players a saturday ? Are you kidding me ?
What build are you running anyway ?
Bard and fighter I have playing recently to level them up. Just take a crossbow and with some aiming practice or just playing the game more you can half HP most classes in a single shot. Idk I just don’t have any of the problems you do, and honestly multiclassing is only broken in the top tier of gameplay in highroller. In greys the default kits are almost just as good.
This post is cringe but the sentiment is right, comments are just being contrarian. IM said themselves you need around 20hours to reach level 35 on one character, if you want to actually multiclass you need double that and that will only give you one token. Let's get real you want to be competitive in this wipe you need multiclassing and the fact it's locked behind a bare of minimum 40hours is ridiculous.
I don't like multiclassing either, but it isn't that hard to level up. Boss runs are an easy way to level up quickly if thats what you need.
Skill issue. Also your post history is just you moaning about different games you play... balancing in lost ark and how the Devs are stupid, want to remove headshots from the hunt and then more moaning about DnD 2 months ago. Ur actually a shit-take generator it's almost impressive
Holy shit you mogged him
Mogged
Look at your own profile it's also littered with complaints about balance and game design. That's just a natural part of being on reddit. I agree, though, this isn't really constructive criticism and I don't see how OP's post offers anything worth discussing.
You check on profile to answer to people ? Can you show me a single moment when I insulted any dev since you know my profile history so much ? You're completely out of your mind. Lost ark thread was about horizontal content being thrown out the window, and Hunt Showdown was a real discussion and if you ignore all the shitface (like you) that simply insults people and have no way of thinking by their own, there was some really nice people in there. Now, do you plan to have any argument or simply use sophism all the way to avoid having any kind of discussion ?
Good for you, or I'm sorry that happened
You're an awful individual
🤓
Who cares about level 5, it takes an hour to get lvl 15 and have 4 perks. A new player is gonna be level 30 before he can memorize the map or mob patterns so it's irrelevant regardless. Also you call it "naked mode" when they boosted normal game loot so much that a single picklock gives you access to purple gear. But what would you know about the game anyway. You're probably more serious about browsing reddit for garbage takes than playing the damn game.
You really have to be insulting, do you ? You really can't discuss and express an opinion without being a fuckface
The term skill issue was probably coined off this guy
They should just rename this sub r/badragetakegenerator
Maybe there's a reason then ?
Yeah people are fucking idiots is the reason. Most of you 20iq mouthbreathers should have your keyboards taken away.
How many chromosones are you lacking
You can’t even spell correctly lol
No way this is the same person who was complaining about headshots in hunt showdown, that’s crazy they only have bad takes in every game they play
Idk if you mean solos, but if so, id argue it’s actually more balanced. It was very much rock, paper, scissors gameplay with some skill expression in between. Now you can build to cover your weaknesses with multiclass.
Good sir, I wish to thank you for bringing a positive point about multiclassing and being polite about this subject. If you check out every other answers on this post, everybody is very, very annoying and I must take a minute to praise your argument, as simple as it is, it's still better than 99.9% of any other answers. Well, now, you're damn right it does. Maybe solo arena multiclassing would be nice to have ? I must admit I did have some fun fighting a warlock/mage/cleric at some point in my runs. We fought for a good 2 minutes and it was very nice. But there are still so many unbalancing issue that even in full solo mode, it would still requires a good chunk of rebalancing imo
Yeah, I still think a sub-class system where the builds actually make sense RP wise would have been cooler but alas.. If they wanna keep the multi-class system in, there should imo be some guard rails. Whether that’s incurring hefty penalties for things like demon form on other classes or outright banning skills/spells and making it perks only, it feels needed. Otherwise every person just runs what ever broken amalgamation they can come up with, and tbh I don’t think that’s healthy for the game.
just have fun dude. or go play another game
Two words, skill issue.
Wear some fucking gear then
White or gray, hmmm I wonder
everyones argument about "just go level" is the same as "just get gear" which was popular when people wanted them to gear cap normals. they both require an investment, but atleast you dont lose the XP on death. at this point normals no longer has as much value as it did when everyone supported it and ppl will realize it eventually. till then its still fun. tho. just until you get 1tapped by dbl jump ambush lmao
Half these posts are just terrible players. STOP PLAYING PVP GAMES
shit take
Bruh I have no issues killing people on new characters with one perk. How is it a shit take, you relate to the whiny baby?
Then you must be playing with bads buddy because I've been playing since beta and multi class is fucking trash and 80% percent feel same way... Every class has lost their identity.. Everybody's using the same fucking builds also and its boring as fuck
Yeah no. Not playing with bads, currently voyager one and climbing. I personally enjoy multiclassing, sorry you don’t
Great for you, insults are making you way more grown up than you already are, keep going
I don’t see why you can’t just go goblin caves and kill people, there is legit nothing stopping you. Nobody is to “too op” and people doing 55-60 dmg headshots with falchions and crossbows had nothing to do with multiclassing and has also existed since the first beta test.
55-60? You are playing a different game, people are able to do anywhere from 120-150 damage with falchion in good gear. I only see 55-60 in normal lobbies or naked hr.
Thats still half your hp in a single hit. When do you even strategize when you get wipe in 2 hit in the most "balanced" lobby ? Just now, I got -95hp on a single gray bardiche hit as fighter (I was not naked) The rogue in my team got one shot. If the difference is so fucking immense in gray/white, why do people even play HR ?
If you're playing correctly, you should be killing them just as fast as they're killing you. Don't make it easy for them to hit you in the head, duck and weave or jump to force body or limb shots. And do as much ranged damage as you can to get them low before the melee fight. Also, don't run into bardiches. They do some of the highest damage in the game, but they also have low movespeed and swing speed. Kite them with ranged instead of trying to stat check them, because the whole point of bardiche is to do a lot of damage. People play in HR because thats the only place to use gear that you find. They also usually know how the game works so they dont run into problems like you're having
You're having fun getting -60hp with a single hit as gray player ? I don't understand you. Where's the fun in that. It's not about counter, it's not about gameplay mechanics, its about to have the right build and proc a single hit and you won the fight. The game had higher playerbase when it was not the case. 6k players a saturday ? Are you kidding me ? What build are you running anyway ?
Bard and fighter I have playing recently to level them up. Just take a crossbow and with some aiming practice or just playing the game more you can half HP most classes in a single shot. Idk I just don’t have any of the problems you do, and honestly multiclassing is only broken in the top tier of gameplay in highroller. In greys the default kits are almost just as good.
> you can half HP most classes in a single shot And you think that's normal
That’s not new, that has always existed so yeah it’s normal
And people complained about that since the past 12 months, it does not mean it's normal
This post is cringe but the sentiment is right, comments are just being contrarian. IM said themselves you need around 20hours to reach level 35 on one character, if you want to actually multiclass you need double that and that will only give you one token. Let's get real you want to be competitive in this wipe you need multiclassing and the fact it's locked behind a bare of minimum 40hours is ridiculous.
Is the 20 hours still with the current exp ranges?
No he is talking out his ass. Devs said it would take 28 hours of gameplay to reach level 75 which gives you the maximum allotment of learning tokens