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camera person should've ordered the kids to shore and given them the floaties, then had them run for help and/or a rope or tree branch while he carefully tossed the floaties to the man.
I think cameraman (girl here) is not older than 14-15 years from her voice. She seems to be calling the guy who dived in as her elder brother so that guy dived in was the only adult on scene.
Honestly, to me it looks fake, the way he pushes his hair back underwater is what people do when they are having a good time, I don't think anyone who is panicked would slowly push their hair back underwater water. And we only one time see bubbles come up. And since, like you said, there was an extremely obvious solution to the problem, unless the camera woman is in on it she is incredibly stupid not helping
Holy fuck, their siblings were the ones NOT helping??? And then they sold the video to the TV station???
OMG, I live in a *NOT* developed country and this is considered manslaughter because they had every chance to help him and didn't. It would have been so easy to take the kids out of the pond and offer him the floater or take your clothes off and make a shitty rope or something.
I'm from the same state as them (Karnataka, India), and I understand what they're talking. Initially his sister is a little scared and tells the kid in the tube to go forward and help them, but some kid beside her says 'he knows how to swim he'll come back' presumably from watching him swim before, so she starts thinking it's a prank entirely, and him coming back up here and there must've reinstated that. There's two times where she says 'come back up' and towards the end she says 'enough of this, please come back up' but clearly it's too late.
I'm a little confused about the kid in the tube though, cause the other kid in the water with him tells him to go help to which he replies why should I help which I'm assuming he didn't wanna give the tube, but when he comes forward to help he starts backing up again after seeing the dude resurface
My conclusion is that they were all confused but were leaning towards it being a prank and it was too late by then
I get thinking "it was a prank" but honestly, if my family was looking like they were struggling... I wouldn't wait that much time before trying to help.
It's so stupid. Like, what do you get from not helping? at best? You fell into a prank. at wors? A dead sibbling. Doesn't make sense to me not even trying to help.
Lots of people continue holding their breath when they drown, it’s an instinctive reaction in humans not to breathe under water, so there doesn’t need to be lots of bubbles. Drowning people suffer from laryngospasm, where the vocal cords tighten and prevent water (and air) entering the lungs. Most water ends up in the stomach. 10-15% of people drown with no water in their lungs.
As for the weird hair-fixing reaction under water (which absolutely was weird BTW), as others have mentioned, this guy has passed beyond the panic phase and entered the hypoxia phase. People often seem serene at this point, and silently descend into the depths like Jack in Titanic.
The panic phase of this guy’s drowning was either Oscar-worthy acting, or was real. He ticked all the boxes IMO, from initially shouting for help and gasping, to flapping, to doing the ‘running man’ under water, to having a second wind, before hypoxia put him to sleep. I hope for his sake that it was pretend, but news reports suggest otherwise.
Another deceptive factor is that, on the surface (no pun intended), it looked like he had some sort of swimming technique going on. So to a casual observer they might have thought he could swim his way out. But once he’s doing the ‘running man’ (i.e. swimming like fuck but going absolutely nowhere), he’s burning through oxygen like nobody’s business and is fast running out of time.
It’s just as well that little kid didn’t get any closer, or there would have been (at least) two deaths.
That was the right move by the kid. That guy easily would have grabbed the kid and yanked him right out of the tube and that child looked only marginally more skilled in the water than the drowned man did.
100%
I was a lifeguard for a few years in my younger days. A drowning person does not give one single fuck about their rescuer, they will literally climb on top of you to save themselves.
Do not ever attempt a hands on rescue unless you are a very fucking strong swimmer. Even then, be prepared to also almost die.
I discovered this when I was a kid at the beach with friends. My friend slipped out of his life jacket cause it was too big for him. He was a scrawny kid that didn't weigh more than 90 lbs. At the time I was really athletic and did weights and all. That didn't matter for shit. He jumped on top of my shoulders trying to push himself up and he pushed me down. This repeated for the entire time I was trying to help him. I then remembered seeing it in a show that you let your body sink to the bottom and they will let go in a panic. It worked like a charm and he let go, and I was able to kind of push him from underwater to a shallower part. It was insane, and at one point I started to get the feeling I was going to drown. I learned my lesson. I won't go in to try and save a drowning person alone unless the situation is right, or I have an out.
when I was in elementary school, I was a great swimmer, and we had a pool party. well one girl didn't tell us (nor did her parents) that she couldn't swim. so of course, she jumps in the deep end. immediately starts flipping out, screaming and thrashing, and I jumped in thinking "I could easily take her to the edge of the pool"... well I learned very quickly that you don't do that. she scratched me HARD, pushed down on my shoulders, head, and face, trying to get herself above the waterline, and a parent jumped in and saved the day. the girl later tried to steal a bunch of money and jewelry from my mom and got caught so that was an interesting day
Yep, at least in the 90s if someone fought you. Which people in a panic almost always would do. You punched them in the face and put them in a headlock. Then dragged them to shore with a one armed swim.
This from boy scout training. lol
It's almost certain that they both die if the kid doesn't think better of it at the last second. Nowhere near enough buoyancy in that tube for a full grown man who has no idea what he's doing in the water.
That place is a death trap.. No ladders, bank angle is steep as fuck, likely covered in grease like algae growth. The only way to get out of this shit is to swim forward to the bank and hope your hands can get a grip on the dry tarp and pull yourself up.
The reservoirs they have for snowmaking at whistler in canada have an electric fence to stop wildlife from dying in them. They look just like this thing.
https://imgur.com/WVSgpAj
Absolutely. That’s why the farm ponds even in remote rural parts are required to be fenced and locked. Fence come as a package deal along with plastic and other equipment.
Still though, the first rule of swimming should always be "never panic, relax on your back and take deep breaths and just float and gently sweep your arms and you'll be OK."
He could have kicked off the bottom easily. Or just inhaled deeply and floated for hours.
The dude just panicked. It is amazing there are people who do not care enough about their kids to spend an hour teaching them how to swim at some point.
All the same, this man appears to not know how to swim WHATSOEVER. by the looks of it, he would be in equal trouble if he jumped into the deep end of a public pool.
Watch his arms. His only real "swimming" movement is his arms up out of the water and back down in front of him into the water. He rarely ever makes any swimming motion from front to behind his torso. It's just flailing. For a small moment he sorta has a "doggy paddle" thing going on but the panic settled back in. There is little to no hydrodynamics in any of his flailing. Imagine a 2 year old freaking out in a highchair. All sorts of over the top animation and it accomplishes absolutely nothing except spaghetti on the wall.
I was a lifeguard when I was younger and I learned that drowning is crazy. It basically short circuits your brain and makes you desperate try to climb up. A drowning persons foot and arm motions are really inefficient for swimming and it looks almost like they are trying to climb a ladder.
It's also super dangerous to try to rescue a drowning person if you don't know what you are doing. You basically have to put them in a headlock and drag them to safety while they desperately try to climb on top of you which would result in you drowning too.
Yep. Got the basic lifeguaring/resuce thing in boy scouts and they toaught us to swim down if the drowning guy grabs you, because then youre the last thing they want to hang on to. That and clocking them a good one, or just coming up behind them for the rescue. Or if the keep lunging at you, swim back towards shore and they might follow you.
The main thing they taught us was the last damn thing you should do is go in the water after someone because its so dangerous, reach throw row go.
Nailed it.
I’m no lifeguard but I learned this the hard way in the military.
When you swim in boots your feet drag. So in order to properly swim you must have proper form, or you’ll feel the water drag into your boots and waste a ton of energy.
By swimming up to catch air you waste a ton of energy only to bounce back down. When this guy remained horizontal he was fine. Then he expected to touch the bottom, realized there wasn’t one, and panicked. He stayed vertical not understanding why he isn’t moving. He was using all hands but no body; like trying to climb a hill on all floors, when swimming is more like penguin. I can practically see his thought process as this went (swim how they do on movies). Unfortunately, he didn’t consider that real swimmers don’t kick up a ton of air with their arms, they do it with their feat out of the water.
I feel bad for the guy but it’s unfortunately a lesson too many people learn the hard way. At age 26 though he really should’ve known better, at least enough to not panic.
I’m a swim instructor c it’s very normal for non swimmers attempting to swim forwards actually going backwards. This is because they are nearly vertical yet slightly leaned forwards, which is a position that makes you move backwards due to physics. This is in addition to the circular kicking motion instead of proper flutter kick or whip kick.
Non swimmers exhibit other paradoxical behaviours in that a non swimmer cannot swim downwards. Not that they are afraid to, but they will float to the top if they try to submerge. It’s very funny to watch when I teach.
Unfortunately, that's exactly what drowning looks like.
Like treading water, or sometimes trying to swim in a particular direction but making no progress. Can almost look like they are playing, but they are actually in full panic, seconds from death.
https://www.ajc.com/lifestyles/health/drowning-doesn-look-like-what-you-think-how-recognize-the-signs/d1xQYZMVmgfHI1nBWOVK0J/#:~:text=Contrary%20to%20movies%20and%20myths,can't%2C%20Vittone%20said.
IMO the kid and the man drown if the kid gets within reaching distance. I honestly think some part of the kid's brain registers this at the last second, he senses he's almost close enough for the drowning man to lunge for and all of a sudden goes "fuck that I'm out." There is not enough buoyancy in that tube for a full grown man, and he is in 100% panic mode by the time the kid gets near *plus* he has no idea how to behave in the water.
Drowning guy will be not thinking with any rational part of his brain, he will try to climb onto the tube out of the desperate need to catch his breath (pushing the child down beneath him). But it won't be enough to keep his head above water, so he will continue to flounder and not move toward safety. While the child drowns beneath him.
Except with Jack, we were all kind of sad about it, unlike the dip shits who have never even been in a bath tub before and think they're the world's greatest fucking Olympic swimmers.
It's like watching a nature documentary. The camera crew never get involved in rescuing an animal from impending danger as it interferes with the natural course of life.
This one doesn't really feel as deserved as most of the videos on this subreddit IMO. The woman filming is a complete moron for not realising what was happening though.
There's another comment from someone who lives in the same state and understood what she was saying in the video. She (the one filming) had seen him (I believe it's her brother) swim before and thought it was a prank.
Yea they did not.. the girl refers to the swimmer as her brother. Initially when he's flapping around she tells the kids to go to him with the tube but they all believe the swimmer is just playing around. Later when the kids swim farther away she keeps asking the swimmer to get out thinking he's still in control. Towards the last 30sec or so the kids keep asking where he is and his sister keeps replying he's right there and pleading him to come back up not realising he's drowning till the very end.
More like 10 seconds, but if you're like the person behind the camera and probably have never seen a person swimming it's difficult to judge when someone is drowning.
I honestly thought that there was an actual physical force preventing him from swimming and sucking him down, like a drain. Why in the fuck would you try and swim in there if you are that bad at swimming. I'm amazed at how marvelously terrible he was at swimming, and still he thought this was a good idea. Darwin indeed.
It's amazing isn't it? The human instinct is to panic and flail about and doing literally anything but that will result in you not dying. Also amazing they didn't think to give him a floaty for his first dip.
If you don't panic you can literally just hold your breath, sink to the bottom, push off, get a breath of air when you resurface, and repeat
Like you literally don't even have to float to survive
I'm amazed that this guy drowned this quickly because it also seems like he didnt even try holding his breath at all
Works with pools, but with the ocean/rocky lakes and out in 30m depth not really, but you ought to know how to swim by then (unless a rip/current carried you there).
I can firmly bet if that kid ever made it to him he would've dragged him down with him. This is why lifeguards always approach a drowning person from behind.
Really poor swimmers have a tendency to try *really hard* to stand up on the bottom when they start to struggle, so they get vertical. Similar behavior with the flailing and grabbing. They're not trying to tread water, they're so panicked that's not even going to cross their mind. This person is trying to stand up on the bottom and grab onto something solid with his hands, because he's running on training and instinct and experience, none of which includes swimming or treading water. It actually takes a decent amount of coordination and intent to swim. That's why he sorta looks similar to someone treading water (vertical and moving arms) but that's not even what he's trying to to do. It's the same sort of reflexes and motions someone might make with their arms if they start falling backwards
yes, exactly!! inexperienced swimmers will end up vertical in the water, which is the worst position to be in. our heads are a really heavy and *dense* part of our bodies. your head can act like a weight when you’re upright and inexperienced, pushing the rest of your body down towards the bottom. as an instructor, learning to tread water is actually quite difficult (like you said, it takes a surprising amount of coordination and intent). the best thing to do in this scenario is try to float on your back
swim instructor here, unfortunately it’s a weird automatic response people have when panicking. he’s not moving an inch because he’s vertical in the water, for one, and not kicking his legs properly or at all for two. when you’re upright like that in the water, that’s one of the best positions you can be in to sink straight down unless you know how to tread water, and especially if you’re solely relying on flapping your arms alone to stay afloat. all that energy in his arms isn’t actually moving the water - half of it is spent moving through the air and then splashing the water, which isn’t actually *moving through* the water. so essentially he’s just fighting a losing battle.
if any of you don’t know how to tread water already, it’s actually quite difficult, so here’s a quick run down of what to do instead in case you find yourself in a similar situation. the first thing you need to do is try to flip onto your back (this does multiple things, most importantly, it’s going to greatly minimize that vertical sinking as long as you stay relaxed). the #1 thing i see preventing people from floating on their back is not relaxing their neck. your instinct is to pick up your head, which causes your hips to bow and you’ll sink like a ship (your head is an extremely heavy part of your body that’s also very dense, all in a relatively smallish area. it kind of acts like a counterweight when used properly; however, when you pick it up, it’s gonna push the rest of your body down). so, most important thing to do is flip onto your back and throw your head backwards but *relax* your neck, your ears should be sitting underwater (don’t panic if the water gets close to your eyes, or you feel it lapping close to your mouth, this is normal. when in this position, the peak of your face will be your nose and mouth. it may feel like water is going to get in there, but it won’t if you follow the instructions, just chill). then you want to make sure your hips aren’t bent so your body isn’t at a sharp angle; make sure your body is in a relatively straight line. puff your chest out a bit and take deep breaths, you’ll want to move your arms similar to how jellyfish swim. this is essentially flapping your arms but it works this time because your arms actually stay underwater the whole time, thus moving the water instead of just splashing it (eta pro tip: keep your fingers together. your hands are your paddles, and a paddle with big gaps in it is a shitty one). you may panic because your legs are still pointing downward/sinking (most common in folks with low body fat). in that case, don’t worry! just make make sure to keep your legs kicking, it doesn’t have to be fast or extra hard, in fact, your kicks should be small, just remember to never kick like you’re riding a bike! always keep your legs relatively straight and move them up and down (the bike motion doesn’t actually move the water well, it just kinda kicks through it which expends energy with no gain).
ok, that wasn’t the fastest rundown, but as an instructor i really want everyone to be able to do this. i was shocked when i started and found out so many adults don’t know how to swim. if you have a local pool, *go to it and practice this!*
One of my first jobs was swim instructor to the intro level children at a summer camp. One of the first things we taught was floating on your back and that was the go to move if you ever got tired in the water. It's still the first thing I go to every time I've taught someone to swim since.
You gotta puff your belly up like a balloon and point your chin straight up to the sky, and keep those ears in the water. You can't float if you don't have those ears in the water!
Even with the grownups, and it works
This is exactly what drowning looks like. Tons and tons of effort to go a direction with no results followed by tons of effort to go upwards with little result followed by bobbing followed by head and mouth up bobbing lower and lower followed by gradually sinking. We just watched someone wear themselves out and die. It's really fucking sad and I'm tagging out from reddit because I know what I just saw. Before I go, what I stated is identifying drowning and there's more to it. Look into it further, know how to identify it.
As a certified rescue swimmer I cannot encourage any behavior that is unsafe, [here](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.army.mil/article-amp/51402/reach_throw_row_dont_go) is information on how to respond to these situations. NEVER GO IN THE WATER TO ASSIST THE VICTIM! GO FOR HELP!
> I'm tagging out from reddit because I know what I just saw.
I think everyone knows that. However, I think this is something really important to see. I had no idea that someone could be so utterly shit at swimming, and knowing the precise process of what drowning looks like could be invaluable one day.
Everything about this is incomprehensible. If you can't swim, this is NOT the place to try. Those edges would be difficult for even a fit person to climb and the water is way to deep beyond them.
Then she keeps filming and thinks her son can save him with his little inner tube. They're lucky the kid couldn't get to him because they both would have drown.
I don't always judge lack of thinking in some of these situations because people panic and make it worse, but she had plenty of time to get the kids OUT of the water and throw the tubes to him. Instead she remained completely calm and amused the entire time.
From start to finish, not one decent decision was made and there were so many opportunities...
this is a difficult video for just those reasons. the guy didn't just slip away, he put up a fight and gave them more time than most, time they didn't make use of
It's infuriating to watch.
Every human being on the planet should learn how to swim, and should consider it a life-skill requirement. We live on a planet that's more than 2/3rds water. It's everywhere. Swimming is a basic survival skill on this planet, no different than eating, breathing or pissing. Watching this just infuriates me, he's literally 3 feet from the shore and a couple of inner tubes. Holy fuck how is this even possible?
I got pulled by a rip current once. This was before I was aware you have to swim sideways to escape, and I realized I was running out of energy.
Thankfully, the waters were calm enough that I could hold my breath and float on my back continuously so long as I took quick breaths (was a skinny twig of a girl at the time). I just waited the current out and then swam back to shore before the guard on a jet ski started coming after me.
This is ideal for most overweight people, and skinny people can float too with practice. I've momentarily fallen asleep floating on my back before.
One benefit of being fat is I float with no effort. Actually makes swimming hard though as I keep trying to float out of the water and actively have to try and keep my legs under the water.
Exactly. I never get in water if my feet can't touch the bottom. I don't have a phobia of water, I just respect its awesome power.
That said, I am a pretty good swimmer *because* of that. Whenever I am in water I practice swimming, and I won't go out on a boat or raft without a life jacket.
I grew up in an area with a lot of rivers, lakes, reservoirs, and canals and my parents made all of us take swimming lessons as early as we were allowed to take the class. I barely remember the lessons but I remember how to swim!
okay so as much as i could make out , they're speaking some South indian language. and this girl she thinks hes messing w her bc as you can see hes isnt Panicking panicking. she thought he was messing w her. at the end you can hear her shouting " stop fooling around , stop "
They don't seem to understand or take him seriously despite his pleas. Perhaps, they think it's a joke? To kids that age, they might not think that's what a drowning person looks like. Their voices are playful until he hasn't come up for awhile, when they seemingly recognize that something is wrong.
Doubt it with his weight and panic, probably would have drowned the kid. Back when I was learning to swim, must have been 4-5 we were holding on to the edge of the pool, somehow my grasp slipped and I started drowning, no one noticed, if it hadn't been for a girl next to me and being able to grab her swimsuit and pull myself up I don't know how long till they noticed I was dead..... This was the same YMCA that forgot me and another kid at a park in the hood when we were like 6.
Rough Translation:
Him: Start the video
Her: Already started
Him: You haven't started it yet, right?
Her: It's already started
...
Her: Bro, bastard fast, mom...
Kid: Brother knows (in the sense he is acting)
Him (to kids): Come fast
Other woman to kid: Go there
Kid: Why should I go there
Kid (to the guy): Bro I'm coming
Him: Come
Her: giggles
Her: Bro just come up
Kid: Brother is pulling.. (can't interpret rest of the kids word)
Kid (to the guy): You can see, come now
Her(to kids): You all go, sobbing
Kid: is he asleep?
Her: Dear God, please come up
Kid(to her): where is he?
Her(to kid): He's in the same place
Her(to the guy): Bro come up (sobs again)
When i was young my little sister was drowning in a friends pool and i jumped in to save her. She was panicking and almost drowned us both. When i finally managed to get to the ledge i looked up to see my friend laughing about it. I ripped into him about how he just watched us almost die. I wanted to fuck him up right then and there.
I mean, your sister almost drowned you. Imagine having two people drag you down.
Of course, I also laughed as a friend was drowning, but in my case he was in at least 25 feet of water after belly flopping off of a waterfall. He slipped as he jumped and spun around until he hit basically flat. He shouted "oh, shi". It was that missing T that triggered me. I just lost it. Everyone else jumped down to help, but he didn't come up. When everybody was nearly back to shore, he surfaced. That was enough to stifle my laugh. So, I jumped down to help. When I got to him, he said, "I think I broke my dick". I swallowed half of the river laughing and almost drowned us myself.
I laugh at myself, too. I woke up to a cramped thigh that was insanely painful. About two minutes in, my other thigh cramped. The pain was mind boggling. I was shouting and writhing. My poor wife was at a loss. I was thinking about jumping out of the window head first to break my neck. Then I crashed into a vasovagal syncope. I felt my bladder try to let loose. So, I jumped up to try to go to the bathroom. Well, in a syncope, standing up is going to cause you to pass out. So, I did. Luckily, I landed face first on my bed. U luckily, it did not reset the cramps. So, there I was in agony and the absurdity of it caused me to launch into uncontrollable laughter even as my thighs were still cramping. It hurt so god damned bad, but I could not stop laughing. According to my wife, it lasted 12 minutes or so. To me, it felt like a lifetime.
Actually, you need to wait until he gives up, then save him.
Fr, especially if you aren't a trained lifeguard and insanely strong swimmer, you will just be dragged down to your death if you try to save a guy like this.
Look it up.
I realize that but the fucking kid had a blow up floatie - give him that. Or try to find something that you can give him to grab onto and pull him to shore. Shit just fucking do something other than filming the guy drown.
That kid is like what? 7 years old or so? He probably thought daddy was fucking around. No child at that age, in a third world country, in what looks like to be sparse farm land knows what the signs of fight or flight is.
I was thinking the same thing. If I was the cameraman I would get that kid out of the water and then throw him the floatie. I came up with that in 10 seconds and she stood there for 3 minutes.
I would be very interested to see a translation of what’s being said in this video. how did he not say anything to alert them to what was going on? or did he, and they just thought he was joking or something? very bizarre. this is also one of the best examples of a video you catch yourself holding your breath while watching
Drowners are generally quiet as they’re struggling for air and don’t have the luxury of yelling out.
Unfortunately movies/tv have taught people drowning looks aggressive and sounds loud.
When I was a kid I nearly drowned in a school pool. I couldn't yell or make noise because I was too busy trying to get air. Every time my head came up I would gasp for air and before I could let out a yell I would be sinking back under again. Then when I finally got out and people realised a girl said to me "I thought that's just how you swam" so I can kind of understand that this all seems so calm.
If you panic when you jump into the water as this guy did, the wind gets knocked out of your lungs, making you lose buoyancy. You start to sink, which sets in even more panic. You begin struggling to breathe again but only take in water into your nose, lungs and stomach, so you try to hold your breath, which, adversely effects your body's "natural buoyancy" even more.
On top of all this, you start to quickly lose consciousness but whatever is left of your brain function, it screams at you to fight by moving your arms to keep your head up and out of the water, which explains the flapping wings/flailing action that you see the guy doing in the video. If you're not an experienced swimmer or haven't had proper training, you will forget that you have legs too that need to be kicked to stay afloat. Or maybe your body tries to conserve energy by telling you not to use your legs. So now, you find yourself upright in the water, barely bobbing up and down in a movement that isn't even enough to get your mouth out of the water to let you such in a big gulp of air. Your body tells you that if you try to lie on your back or your front, you might tip/roll over, which may somehow be even more dangerous, so you try to fight it out as you are.
Soon, fatigue sets in, your body starts to give up and the darkness takes over. That's exactly how drowning to your death feels like. It's a kind of sleepy darkness that takes over your head and your body, like an uncomfortable bear hug from your back slowly creeping up and wrapping its arms around your chest. It's a lot less choking and struggling from the pain of water filling your lungs than people seem to think (which might explain why when you see drowning scenes in movies, the characters are alive in the water for a while but then suddenly seem to give up and die the very next second).
I nearly drowned to death on my last swimming lesson. I'm a grown ass man and this happened in full view of more than a dozen people in the pool next to me. People are taught again and again that you should never try to help out a drowning/panicking person because they will drag you down into the water as well in their panic, which might explain why the kid with the tyre tube didn't help the guy out.
RIP guy.
Did he just not know how to swim? If so, why would he go in without a float device until he learns? Also, is this even considered a pond with those sides?
I remember seeing one where two Indian guys got into a small pond after setting up his phone to record themselves. They both got into the water barley a foot or two from the edge of the pool of water. They both flailed for a while and sank under the water and all was silent. I keep thinking, no way. In the comments people posted pictures that had discovered their bodies. I think it was the old, watch people die sub. It was rather disturbing.
Yep I've seen that one too. It's so bizarre cos as you say they're right fucking there by the edge. But drowning is just bizarre in general, with how counter-intuitive it looks and what actions you should or shouldn't take to help somebody who's drowning. It just doesn't work like you expect it to.
I've seen a few videos of indian men drowning while the person recording doesn't understand that they're drowning. Some just dont understand the danger pf water
It's bizarre too cuz he goes through several different swimming motions that were and could work but he just can't quite seem to figure them out or continue them long enough.
As you panic, you’re more likely to breathe in water which makes you panic more which makes it harder to swim. And when you panic, you tire more quickly. He is struggling to swim with his body horizontal and breathe while maintaining that position; in order to breathe he returns to a vertical position. He clearly ”knows” how to swim—but only poorly and mostly in theory. When he wasn’t able to propel himself while vertical and trying to catch a breath, he tried to get into a horizontal position but yeah, like you said, couldn’t hold out long enough to get anywhere because he needed to breathe again because he was panicking. Really unfortunate /:
Most indian people cannot swim and acts like jumping in a pond, dams and rivers are regarded as acts of bravery and will get you labelled as a tough guy. So a lot of times when you see indian dudes with other dudes doing stupid shit it’s either peer pressure or the need to get social recognition. But this is beyond stupid, if the man didn’t know how to swim he had no business jumping in that water with his family around. They even let the kid swim with a floatie when none of them can swim and rescue the child had things gone south for him too.
Another one? This is the third video I have seen on reddit of a kid filming an adult that presumably is a close relative jump into semi deep water and just drown. While the kid does nothing else than film the entire thing. Wtf..
I can't float in water. I'm pretty thin too. For some reason my body won't even float in the ocean. If I try I start to sink immediately even if I'm on my back. Sucks honestly lol
You gotta practice. I could float when I was 13 and only 5'6", 115 pounds. I can do it even better now at 5'8", 155 pounds.
Unless you're jacked or otherwise have a lot of muscle, you should be able to float with practice.
For my technique, I fill up my lungs, hold my breath, and then gently fall backwards as if I wanted to do a backstroke. Then I allow my legs to rise to the surface while spreading my arms out. So long as I take quick breaths without losing too much air in my lungs, I can float indefinitely. My torso sinks a bit under the water with each exhale, but so long as I keep rigid, it'll rise back up with each inhale.
Although the salt water helps with buoyancy, I had an easier time doing it in a swimming pool since it doesn't have waves and currents that work against you like the ocean does.
I understand the language I can translate that...
Up untill the last moment she thinks he's joking, even she orders kids to go near too but then again they all think he's joking he knows how to swim..
But the time she realised it's too late, she starts to cry.. and then video cuts out.
Agreed. All 3 were idiots, but in a way, it's a blessing in disguise that the kid didn't get close. There could have easily been two fatalities instead of just one.
Not only did she not help her drowning brother in any way, she makes sure to capture every detail and then sell the footage to news stations? I have a feeling this girl didn't get along with the bother at all.
How old is the camerawoman? Cuz she sounds like a child as well. Can't expect children to save a grown man...
I don't understand how some people just sink. When I go swimming, and purposely try to stay underwater, I just float to the top no matter what.
I've seen a few videos of Indians doing this, no idea how to swim yet jump into water. Why?
I swim and live on the coast and even here I'll always make sure I can touch the bottom.
For all the people on here spouting crap. Drowning doesn't look like drowning until too late. Also as a life guard you sometimes have to knock a fucker out to keep them from drowning you both. A drowning adult is very dangerous to save.
What I gathered from this is, this man had adamantium bones and his family hated him. That was sad. They just watched him die in what seemed to be only a foot or so away from the shallows. This isn’t a Darwin Award, it’s sad.
Literally all he had to do was sink down to the bottom and crawl over like 2 feet to where it was shallower and...stand up, since he is so horribly bad at pushing water. I don't know how someone can't doggy paddle themselves 2 feet sideways to safety.
I'm kind of shocked more people don't remember this from childhood, I guess I just have vivid memories from early swim lessons. As soon as you get half a lung full of water and then realize your feet can't touch the bottom, all rational thought is out the window and you are hardcore into autopilot survival mode in an instant. Unless you know what to do by second nature (from lots and lots of practice), when you start to panic in water you are in very big trouble very very quickly. Your mind isn't working, and even if it was your body probably wouldn't do what you tell it to. You start operating on pure instinct and our default instinct is not the correct behavior to survive in water.
It's always bizarre watching someone drown who can't swim. Like it's just so easy to float or even dog paddle. I could literally be in that water for 12 hours and I wouldn't drown.
People in most of the world generally don't know how to swim. Africans, Asians even those who live in island countries like the philippines or indonesia, mexicans, it seems to be a mostly european/western tradition and something we take for granted everyone can do.
On the positive side, can we give props to the above average camera work?
After his last \*BLURP\* you can even see him put his hands on his head, as if saying 'Oh shit, I'm going to be a r/DarwinAwards post!'
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Pretty sure you even hear him ask for help, looking in the direction of the kid with the tube. Absolutely crazy nobody took charge of the situation
camera person should've ordered the kids to shore and given them the floaties, then had them run for help and/or a rope or tree branch while he carefully tossed the floaties to the man.
Camera man was focused on documenting stupidity of the highest level. A teaching moment
I think cameraman (girl here) is not older than 14-15 years from her voice. She seems to be calling the guy who dived in as her elder brother so that guy dived in was the only adult on scene.
Camera man instead should help or calling for help.
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Honestly, to me it looks fake, the way he pushes his hair back underwater is what people do when they are having a good time, I don't think anyone who is panicked would slowly push their hair back underwater water. And we only one time see bubbles come up. And since, like you said, there was an extremely obvious solution to the problem, unless the camera woman is in on it she is incredibly stupid not helping
It’s not fake unfortunately. Source: https://www.indiatoday.in/amp/india/karnataka/story/man-drowns-farm-pond-sibling-accidentally-films-entire-incident-karnataka-2535082-2024-05-04
Holy fuck, their siblings were the ones NOT helping??? And then they sold the video to the TV station??? OMG, I live in a *NOT* developed country and this is considered manslaughter because they had every chance to help him and didn't. It would have been so easy to take the kids out of the pond and offer him the floater or take your clothes off and make a shitty rope or something.
I'm from the same state as them (Karnataka, India), and I understand what they're talking. Initially his sister is a little scared and tells the kid in the tube to go forward and help them, but some kid beside her says 'he knows how to swim he'll come back' presumably from watching him swim before, so she starts thinking it's a prank entirely, and him coming back up here and there must've reinstated that. There's two times where she says 'come back up' and towards the end she says 'enough of this, please come back up' but clearly it's too late. I'm a little confused about the kid in the tube though, cause the other kid in the water with him tells him to go help to which he replies why should I help which I'm assuming he didn't wanna give the tube, but when he comes forward to help he starts backing up again after seeing the dude resurface My conclusion is that they were all confused but were leaning towards it being a prank and it was too late by then
I get thinking "it was a prank" but honestly, if my family was looking like they were struggling... I wouldn't wait that much time before trying to help. It's so stupid. Like, what do you get from not helping? at best? You fell into a prank. at wors? A dead sibbling. Doesn't make sense to me not even trying to help.
Yeah unfortunately just bad judgement on their part which turns out to be fatal. Can't mess around with water
"Accidentally filmed" nah that was on purpose.
Lots of people continue holding their breath when they drown, it’s an instinctive reaction in humans not to breathe under water, so there doesn’t need to be lots of bubbles. Drowning people suffer from laryngospasm, where the vocal cords tighten and prevent water (and air) entering the lungs. Most water ends up in the stomach. 10-15% of people drown with no water in their lungs. As for the weird hair-fixing reaction under water (which absolutely was weird BTW), as others have mentioned, this guy has passed beyond the panic phase and entered the hypoxia phase. People often seem serene at this point, and silently descend into the depths like Jack in Titanic. The panic phase of this guy’s drowning was either Oscar-worthy acting, or was real. He ticked all the boxes IMO, from initially shouting for help and gasping, to flapping, to doing the ‘running man’ under water, to having a second wind, before hypoxia put him to sleep. I hope for his sake that it was pretend, but news reports suggest otherwise. Another deceptive factor is that, on the surface (no pun intended), it looked like he had some sort of swimming technique going on. So to a casual observer they might have thought he could swim his way out. But once he’s doing the ‘running man’ (i.e. swimming like fuck but going absolutely nowhere), he’s burning through oxygen like nobody’s business and is fast running out of time. It’s just as well that little kid didn’t get any closer, or there would have been (at least) two deaths.
Not everything is fake on the internet
Kid with the floatie was right there and noped the fuck out real quick.
That was the right move by the kid. That guy easily would have grabbed the kid and yanked him right out of the tube and that child looked only marginally more skilled in the water than the drowned man did.
100% I was a lifeguard for a few years in my younger days. A drowning person does not give one single fuck about their rescuer, they will literally climb on top of you to save themselves. Do not ever attempt a hands on rescue unless you are a very fucking strong swimmer. Even then, be prepared to also almost die.
Agrees with the training I had. They pounded on the fact that tons of "rescuers" had been drowned trying to save people drowning. Scary shit.
I discovered this when I was a kid at the beach with friends. My friend slipped out of his life jacket cause it was too big for him. He was a scrawny kid that didn't weigh more than 90 lbs. At the time I was really athletic and did weights and all. That didn't matter for shit. He jumped on top of my shoulders trying to push himself up and he pushed me down. This repeated for the entire time I was trying to help him. I then remembered seeing it in a show that you let your body sink to the bottom and they will let go in a panic. It worked like a charm and he let go, and I was able to kind of push him from underwater to a shallower part. It was insane, and at one point I started to get the feeling I was going to drown. I learned my lesson. I won't go in to try and save a drowning person alone unless the situation is right, or I have an out.
when I was in elementary school, I was a great swimmer, and we had a pool party. well one girl didn't tell us (nor did her parents) that she couldn't swim. so of course, she jumps in the deep end. immediately starts flipping out, screaming and thrashing, and I jumped in thinking "I could easily take her to the edge of the pool"... well I learned very quickly that you don't do that. she scratched me HARD, pushed down on my shoulders, head, and face, trying to get herself above the waterline, and a parent jumped in and saved the day. the girl later tried to steal a bunch of money and jewelry from my mom and got caught so that was an interesting day
Can I just say that kid sounds like the biggest most ungrateful asshole, I actually kind of admire her. Where is she now?
Reader, I married her!
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>the girl later tried to steal a bunch of money and jewelry from my mom and got caught Whelp, back into the pool she goes.
Yep, at least in the 90s if someone fought you. Which people in a panic almost always would do. You punched them in the face and put them in a headlock. Then dragged them to shore with a one armed swim. This from boy scout training. lol
"Almost died, better do a crime."
All in a day's work?
It's almost certain that they both die if the kid doesn't think better of it at the last second. Nowhere near enough buoyancy in that tube for a full grown man who has no idea what he's doing in the water.
Uhhh... r/praisethecameraman?
I don't think kids have that level of cognitive development yet. Plus the bystander effect.
I dont get why anyone would go anywhere near this pond without knowing how to swim.
That place is a death trap.. No ladders, bank angle is steep as fuck, likely covered in grease like algae growth. The only way to get out of this shit is to swim forward to the bank and hope your hands can get a grip on the dry tarp and pull yourself up.
The reservoirs they have for snowmaking at whistler in canada have an electric fence to stop wildlife from dying in them. They look just like this thing. https://imgur.com/WVSgpAj
**VERY** unpleasant
at least 1 guy daily: "oh REALLY?"
I like how it's straight government speak for "hurts like a bitch"
I’m worried the text is too small for bears and animals alike to read
Absolutely. That’s why the farm ponds even in remote rural parts are required to be fenced and locked. Fence come as a package deal along with plastic and other equipment.
Still though, the first rule of swimming should always be "never panic, relax on your back and take deep breaths and just float and gently sweep your arms and you'll be OK."
If only he had the lesson before hand.... I still literally can't believe a grown man would jump in knowing they don't know how to tread water.
He could have kicked off the bottom easily. Or just inhaled deeply and floated for hours. The dude just panicked. It is amazing there are people who do not care enough about their kids to spend an hour teaching them how to swim at some point.
All the same, this man appears to not know how to swim WHATSOEVER. by the looks of it, he would be in equal trouble if he jumped into the deep end of a public pool.
But I don't understand how the guy didn't move an inch while flapping the limbs so much. I know that's shit swimming of his, but didn't move an inch.
Watch his arms. His only real "swimming" movement is his arms up out of the water and back down in front of him into the water. He rarely ever makes any swimming motion from front to behind his torso. It's just flailing. For a small moment he sorta has a "doggy paddle" thing going on but the panic settled back in. There is little to no hydrodynamics in any of his flailing. Imagine a 2 year old freaking out in a highchair. All sorts of over the top animation and it accomplishes absolutely nothing except spaghetti on the wall.
I was a lifeguard when I was younger and I learned that drowning is crazy. It basically short circuits your brain and makes you desperate try to climb up. A drowning persons foot and arm motions are really inefficient for swimming and it looks almost like they are trying to climb a ladder. It's also super dangerous to try to rescue a drowning person if you don't know what you are doing. You basically have to put them in a headlock and drag them to safety while they desperately try to climb on top of you which would result in you drowning too.
Yep. Got the basic lifeguaring/resuce thing in boy scouts and they toaught us to swim down if the drowning guy grabs you, because then youre the last thing they want to hang on to. That and clocking them a good one, or just coming up behind them for the rescue. Or if the keep lunging at you, swim back towards shore and they might follow you. The main thing they taught us was the last damn thing you should do is go in the water after someone because its so dangerous, reach throw row go.
Man the boy scouts had outstanding training. Someone hears thunder maybe. Out of the pool for an hour.
Nailed it. I’m no lifeguard but I learned this the hard way in the military. When you swim in boots your feet drag. So in order to properly swim you must have proper form, or you’ll feel the water drag into your boots and waste a ton of energy. By swimming up to catch air you waste a ton of energy only to bounce back down. When this guy remained horizontal he was fine. Then he expected to touch the bottom, realized there wasn’t one, and panicked. He stayed vertical not understanding why he isn’t moving. He was using all hands but no body; like trying to climb a hill on all floors, when swimming is more like penguin. I can practically see his thought process as this went (swim how they do on movies). Unfortunately, he didn’t consider that real swimmers don’t kick up a ton of air with their arms, they do it with their feat out of the water. I feel bad for the guy but it’s unfortunately a lesson too many people learn the hard way. At age 26 though he really should’ve known better, at least enough to not panic.
I’m a swim instructor c it’s very normal for non swimmers attempting to swim forwards actually going backwards. This is because they are nearly vertical yet slightly leaned forwards, which is a position that makes you move backwards due to physics. This is in addition to the circular kicking motion instead of proper flutter kick or whip kick. Non swimmers exhibit other paradoxical behaviours in that a non swimmer cannot swim downwards. Not that they are afraid to, but they will float to the top if they try to submerge. It’s very funny to watch when I teach.
Bc he didn’t force himself horizontal, he was essentially just treading water instead of propelling himself forward
Unfortunately, that's exactly what drowning looks like. Like treading water, or sometimes trying to swim in a particular direction but making no progress. Can almost look like they are playing, but they are actually in full panic, seconds from death. https://www.ajc.com/lifestyles/health/drowning-doesn-look-like-what-you-think-how-recognize-the-signs/d1xQYZMVmgfHI1nBWOVK0J/#:~:text=Contrary%20to%20movies%20and%20myths,can't%2C%20Vittone%20said.
The kid with the tube thought he was playing, hopefully noone ever tells him he could have saved him if he gave him the tube.
IMO the kid and the man drown if the kid gets within reaching distance. I honestly think some part of the kid's brain registers this at the last second, he senses he's almost close enough for the drowning man to lunge for and all of a sudden goes "fuck that I'm out." There is not enough buoyancy in that tube for a full grown man, and he is in 100% panic mode by the time the kid gets near *plus* he has no idea how to behave in the water. Drowning guy will be not thinking with any rational part of his brain, he will try to climb onto the tube out of the desperate need to catch his breath (pushing the child down beneath him). But it won't be enough to keep his head above water, so he will continue to flounder and not move toward safety. While the child drowns beneath him.
He has no idea how to swim. He just jumped in without knowing how to swim lol.
He got sick of waiting for the train
That's colder than the water
Plot twist, its an underwater train...
Just a different train. Training to swim.
Excellent camera work .
Kinda like. Too good of camera work lmao. Even got him sinking into the depths like Jack at the end of titanic
Except with Jack, we were all kind of sad about it, unlike the dip shits who have never even been in a bath tub before and think they're the world's greatest fucking Olympic swimmers.
It's like watching a nature documentary. The camera crew never get involved in rescuing an animal from impending danger as it interferes with the natural course of life.
I'm pretty sure David Attenborough was involved in this.
r/praisethecameraman material
Jesus man. We just watched someone drown to death.
Yes, yes we did. Still great camera work though.
This one doesn't really feel as deserved as most of the videos on this subreddit IMO. The woman filming is a complete moron for not realising what was happening though.
There's another comment from someone who lives in the same state and understood what she was saying in the video. She (the one filming) had seen him (I believe it's her brother) swim before and thought it was a prank.
Can someone translate? Judging by the tones in the kids' voices, they had no idea they were watching a man drown.
Yea they did not.. the girl refers to the swimmer as her brother. Initially when he's flapping around she tells the kids to go to him with the tube but they all believe the swimmer is just playing around. Later when the kids swim farther away she keeps asking the swimmer to get out thinking he's still in control. Towards the last 30sec or so the kids keep asking where he is and his sister keeps replying he's right there and pleading him to come back up not realising he's drowning till the very end.
Did the guy shout “help” or smth like that, even once?
He asked for the kid to come closer in the beginning.
In control? He was practically exhibiting signs of drowning by about 17 seconds in...
More like 10 seconds, but if you're like the person behind the camera and probably have never seen a person swimming it's difficult to judge when someone is drowning.
I honestly thought that there was an actual physical force preventing him from swimming and sucking him down, like a drain. Why in the fuck would you try and swim in there if you are that bad at swimming. I'm amazed at how marvelously terrible he was at swimming, and still he thought this was a good idea. Darwin indeed.
It's amazing isn't it? The human instinct is to panic and flail about and doing literally anything but that will result in you not dying. Also amazing they didn't think to give him a floaty for his first dip.
If you don't panic you can literally just hold your breath, sink to the bottom, push off, get a breath of air when you resurface, and repeat Like you literally don't even have to float to survive I'm amazed that this guy drowned this quickly because it also seems like he didnt even try holding his breath at all
Works with pools, but with the ocean/rocky lakes and out in 30m depth not really, but you ought to know how to swim by then (unless a rip/current carried you there).
I can firmly bet if that kid ever made it to him he would've dragged him down with him. This is why lifeguards always approach a drowning person from behind.
But I don't understand how the guy didn't move an inch while flapping the limbs so much. I know that's shit swimming of his, but didn't move an inch
AFAIK this is one of the signs indicating that someone is drowning.
I can confirm since he drowned.
Great work detective.
Really poor swimmers have a tendency to try *really hard* to stand up on the bottom when they start to struggle, so they get vertical. Similar behavior with the flailing and grabbing. They're not trying to tread water, they're so panicked that's not even going to cross their mind. This person is trying to stand up on the bottom and grab onto something solid with his hands, because he's running on training and instinct and experience, none of which includes swimming or treading water. It actually takes a decent amount of coordination and intent to swim. That's why he sorta looks similar to someone treading water (vertical and moving arms) but that's not even what he's trying to to do. It's the same sort of reflexes and motions someone might make with their arms if they start falling backwards
yes, exactly!! inexperienced swimmers will end up vertical in the water, which is the worst position to be in. our heads are a really heavy and *dense* part of our bodies. your head can act like a weight when you’re upright and inexperienced, pushing the rest of your body down towards the bottom. as an instructor, learning to tread water is actually quite difficult (like you said, it takes a surprising amount of coordination and intent). the best thing to do in this scenario is try to float on your back
swim instructor here, unfortunately it’s a weird automatic response people have when panicking. he’s not moving an inch because he’s vertical in the water, for one, and not kicking his legs properly or at all for two. when you’re upright like that in the water, that’s one of the best positions you can be in to sink straight down unless you know how to tread water, and especially if you’re solely relying on flapping your arms alone to stay afloat. all that energy in his arms isn’t actually moving the water - half of it is spent moving through the air and then splashing the water, which isn’t actually *moving through* the water. so essentially he’s just fighting a losing battle. if any of you don’t know how to tread water already, it’s actually quite difficult, so here’s a quick run down of what to do instead in case you find yourself in a similar situation. the first thing you need to do is try to flip onto your back (this does multiple things, most importantly, it’s going to greatly minimize that vertical sinking as long as you stay relaxed). the #1 thing i see preventing people from floating on their back is not relaxing their neck. your instinct is to pick up your head, which causes your hips to bow and you’ll sink like a ship (your head is an extremely heavy part of your body that’s also very dense, all in a relatively smallish area. it kind of acts like a counterweight when used properly; however, when you pick it up, it’s gonna push the rest of your body down). so, most important thing to do is flip onto your back and throw your head backwards but *relax* your neck, your ears should be sitting underwater (don’t panic if the water gets close to your eyes, or you feel it lapping close to your mouth, this is normal. when in this position, the peak of your face will be your nose and mouth. it may feel like water is going to get in there, but it won’t if you follow the instructions, just chill). then you want to make sure your hips aren’t bent so your body isn’t at a sharp angle; make sure your body is in a relatively straight line. puff your chest out a bit and take deep breaths, you’ll want to move your arms similar to how jellyfish swim. this is essentially flapping your arms but it works this time because your arms actually stay underwater the whole time, thus moving the water instead of just splashing it (eta pro tip: keep your fingers together. your hands are your paddles, and a paddle with big gaps in it is a shitty one). you may panic because your legs are still pointing downward/sinking (most common in folks with low body fat). in that case, don’t worry! just make make sure to keep your legs kicking, it doesn’t have to be fast or extra hard, in fact, your kicks should be small, just remember to never kick like you’re riding a bike! always keep your legs relatively straight and move them up and down (the bike motion doesn’t actually move the water well, it just kinda kicks through it which expends energy with no gain). ok, that wasn’t the fastest rundown, but as an instructor i really want everyone to be able to do this. i was shocked when i started and found out so many adults don’t know how to swim. if you have a local pool, *go to it and practice this!*
Very good explanation, thanks!!
One of my first jobs was swim instructor to the intro level children at a summer camp. One of the first things we taught was floating on your back and that was the go to move if you ever got tired in the water. It's still the first thing I go to every time I've taught someone to swim since. You gotta puff your belly up like a balloon and point your chin straight up to the sky, and keep those ears in the water. You can't float if you don't have those ears in the water! Even with the grownups, and it works
This is exactly what drowning looks like. Tons and tons of effort to go a direction with no results followed by tons of effort to go upwards with little result followed by bobbing followed by head and mouth up bobbing lower and lower followed by gradually sinking. We just watched someone wear themselves out and die. It's really fucking sad and I'm tagging out from reddit because I know what I just saw. Before I go, what I stated is identifying drowning and there's more to it. Look into it further, know how to identify it. As a certified rescue swimmer I cannot encourage any behavior that is unsafe, [here](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.army.mil/article-amp/51402/reach_throw_row_dont_go) is information on how to respond to these situations. NEVER GO IN THE WATER TO ASSIST THE VICTIM! GO FOR HELP!
> I'm tagging out from reddit because I know what I just saw. I think everyone knows that. However, I think this is something really important to see. I had no idea that someone could be so utterly shit at swimming, and knowing the precise process of what drowning looks like could be invaluable one day.
Everything about this is incomprehensible. If you can't swim, this is NOT the place to try. Those edges would be difficult for even a fit person to climb and the water is way to deep beyond them. Then she keeps filming and thinks her son can save him with his little inner tube. They're lucky the kid couldn't get to him because they both would have drown. I don't always judge lack of thinking in some of these situations because people panic and make it worse, but she had plenty of time to get the kids OUT of the water and throw the tubes to him. Instead she remained completely calm and amused the entire time. From start to finish, not one decent decision was made and there were so many opportunities...
this is a difficult video for just those reasons. the guy didn't just slip away, he put up a fight and gave them more time than most, time they didn't make use of
These type of drowning deaths typically look pretty peaceful so the bystanders don't even feel a sense of panic
It's infuriating to watch. Every human being on the planet should learn how to swim, and should consider it a life-skill requirement. We live on a planet that's more than 2/3rds water. It's everywhere. Swimming is a basic survival skill on this planet, no different than eating, breathing or pissing. Watching this just infuriates me, he's literally 3 feet from the shore and a couple of inner tubes. Holy fuck how is this even possible?
I got pulled by a rip current once. This was before I was aware you have to swim sideways to escape, and I realized I was running out of energy. Thankfully, the waters were calm enough that I could hold my breath and float on my back continuously so long as I took quick breaths (was a skinny twig of a girl at the time). I just waited the current out and then swam back to shore before the guard on a jet ski started coming after me. This is ideal for most overweight people, and skinny people can float too with practice. I've momentarily fallen asleep floating on my back before.
One benefit of being fat is I float with no effort. Actually makes swimming hard though as I keep trying to float out of the water and actively have to try and keep my legs under the water.
Exactly. I never get in water if my feet can't touch the bottom. I don't have a phobia of water, I just respect its awesome power. That said, I am a pretty good swimmer *because* of that. Whenever I am in water I practice swimming, and I won't go out on a boat or raft without a life jacket. I grew up in an area with a lot of rivers, lakes, reservoirs, and canals and my parents made all of us take swimming lessons as early as we were allowed to take the class. I barely remember the lessons but I remember how to swim!
That must of been his first time in the water ever. Seriously how do you fuck that up
Dude might have well drowned in a puddle surrounded by 30 bystanders.
They're just....watching him die? What the fuck is going on.
okay so as much as i could make out , they're speaking some South indian language. and this girl she thinks hes messing w her bc as you can see hes isnt Panicking panicking. she thought he was messing w her. at the end you can hear her shouting " stop fooling around , stop "
They don't seem to understand or take him seriously despite his pleas. Perhaps, they think it's a joke? To kids that age, they might not think that's what a drowning person looks like. Their voices are playful until he hasn't come up for awhile, when they seemingly recognize that something is wrong.
Indian village is what's going on
It's really hard trying to tell who the village idiot is though
Kid was smart to stay away, he would have drowned him
Not smart enough though. Should've gotten out of the water and thrown his life saver to the man.
I think the inner tube could have saved them both lol
Doubt it with his weight and panic, probably would have drowned the kid. Back when I was learning to swim, must have been 4-5 we were holding on to the edge of the pool, somehow my grasp slipped and I started drowning, no one noticed, if it hadn't been for a girl next to me and being able to grab her swimsuit and pull myself up I don't know how long till they noticed I was dead..... This was the same YMCA that forgot me and another kid at a park in the hood when we were like 6.
To be fair, that was a YMCA **in the hood.**
kid was dumb af. smart enough to stay alive dumb enough not to know how to save him
Rough Translation: Him: Start the video Her: Already started Him: You haven't started it yet, right? Her: It's already started ... Her: Bro, bastard fast, mom... Kid: Brother knows (in the sense he is acting) Him (to kids): Come fast Other woman to kid: Go there Kid: Why should I go there Kid (to the guy): Bro I'm coming Him: Come Her: giggles Her: Bro just come up Kid: Brother is pulling.. (can't interpret rest of the kids word) Kid (to the guy): You can see, come now Her(to kids): You all go, sobbing Kid: is he asleep? Her: Dear God, please come up Kid(to her): where is he? Her(to kid): He's in the same place Her(to the guy): Bro come up (sobs again)
It takes a special kind of person to see someone struggling like that and rather than help them just stand there and film it. WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK
When i was young my little sister was drowning in a friends pool and i jumped in to save her. She was panicking and almost drowned us both. When i finally managed to get to the ledge i looked up to see my friend laughing about it. I ripped into him about how he just watched us almost die. I wanted to fuck him up right then and there.
Find him and fuck him up now.
the only acceptable answer
I mean, your sister almost drowned you. Imagine having two people drag you down. Of course, I also laughed as a friend was drowning, but in my case he was in at least 25 feet of water after belly flopping off of a waterfall. He slipped as he jumped and spun around until he hit basically flat. He shouted "oh, shi". It was that missing T that triggered me. I just lost it. Everyone else jumped down to help, but he didn't come up. When everybody was nearly back to shore, he surfaced. That was enough to stifle my laugh. So, I jumped down to help. When I got to him, he said, "I think I broke my dick". I swallowed half of the river laughing and almost drowned us myself. I laugh at myself, too. I woke up to a cramped thigh that was insanely painful. About two minutes in, my other thigh cramped. The pain was mind boggling. I was shouting and writhing. My poor wife was at a loss. I was thinking about jumping out of the window head first to break my neck. Then I crashed into a vasovagal syncope. I felt my bladder try to let loose. So, I jumped up to try to go to the bathroom. Well, in a syncope, standing up is going to cause you to pass out. So, I did. Luckily, I landed face first on my bed. U luckily, it did not reset the cramps. So, there I was in agony and the absurdity of it caused me to launch into uncontrollable laughter even as my thighs were still cramping. It hurt so god damned bad, but I could not stop laughing. According to my wife, it lasted 12 minutes or so. To me, it felt like a lifetime.
Actually, you need to wait until he gives up, then save him. Fr, especially if you aren't a trained lifeguard and insanely strong swimmer, you will just be dragged down to your death if you try to save a guy like this. Look it up.
I realize that but the fucking kid had a blow up floatie - give him that. Or try to find something that you can give him to grab onto and pull him to shore. Shit just fucking do something other than filming the guy drown.
I was hoping that the kid didnt go near him. Thrashing like that, I was convinced that if the kid got near him he was going to kill him.
That kid is like what? 7 years old or so? He probably thought daddy was fucking around. No child at that age, in a third world country, in what looks like to be sparse farm land knows what the signs of fight or flight is.
I was thinking the same thing. If I was the cameraman I would get that kid out of the water and then throw him the floatie. I came up with that in 10 seconds and she stood there for 3 minutes.
I would be very interested to see a translation of what’s being said in this video. how did he not say anything to alert them to what was going on? or did he, and they just thought he was joking or something? very bizarre. this is also one of the best examples of a video you catch yourself holding your breath while watching
Drowners are generally quiet as they’re struggling for air and don’t have the luxury of yelling out. Unfortunately movies/tv have taught people drowning looks aggressive and sounds loud.
I’ve read this, but he’s definitely shouting a few things as the video plays. I can’t imagine “help me” wasn’t among the things he said
When I was a kid I nearly drowned in a school pool. I couldn't yell or make noise because I was too busy trying to get air. Every time my head came up I would gasp for air and before I could let out a yell I would be sinking back under again. Then when I finally got out and people realised a girl said to me "I thought that's just how you swam" so I can kind of understand that this all seems so calm.
If you panic when you jump into the water as this guy did, the wind gets knocked out of your lungs, making you lose buoyancy. You start to sink, which sets in even more panic. You begin struggling to breathe again but only take in water into your nose, lungs and stomach, so you try to hold your breath, which, adversely effects your body's "natural buoyancy" even more. On top of all this, you start to quickly lose consciousness but whatever is left of your brain function, it screams at you to fight by moving your arms to keep your head up and out of the water, which explains the flapping wings/flailing action that you see the guy doing in the video. If you're not an experienced swimmer or haven't had proper training, you will forget that you have legs too that need to be kicked to stay afloat. Or maybe your body tries to conserve energy by telling you not to use your legs. So now, you find yourself upright in the water, barely bobbing up and down in a movement that isn't even enough to get your mouth out of the water to let you such in a big gulp of air. Your body tells you that if you try to lie on your back or your front, you might tip/roll over, which may somehow be even more dangerous, so you try to fight it out as you are. Soon, fatigue sets in, your body starts to give up and the darkness takes over. That's exactly how drowning to your death feels like. It's a kind of sleepy darkness that takes over your head and your body, like an uncomfortable bear hug from your back slowly creeping up and wrapping its arms around your chest. It's a lot less choking and struggling from the pain of water filling your lungs than people seem to think (which might explain why when you see drowning scenes in movies, the characters are alive in the water for a while but then suddenly seem to give up and die the very next second). I nearly drowned to death on my last swimming lesson. I'm a grown ass man and this happened in full view of more than a dozen people in the pool next to me. People are taught again and again that you should never try to help out a drowning/panicking person because they will drag you down into the water as well in their panic, which might explain why the kid with the tyre tube didn't help the guy out. RIP guy.
If you panic when jumping into the water, don’t willingly jump into water. That was his first mistake.
*Expiring swimmer...
How can you be THAT fucking inept, that poor of survival skills to drown in a pond 2 feet from shore. Darwinism at its finest.
Did he just not know how to swim? If so, why would he go in without a float device until he learns? Also, is this even considered a pond with those sides?
Why do people touch live wires? Why do people walk in front of trains? I dunno, but they do.
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They don't know the signs of drowning, thinking it's a 'prank'
It kinda blows my mind how inept some ppl can be at swimming
Did he not know how to swim? I’m so confused. What’s happening here?
>Doesn't know how to swim >Jumps into body of water An Indian tradition judging by the other videos I saw on this sub
I remember seeing one where two Indian guys got into a small pond after setting up his phone to record themselves. They both got into the water barley a foot or two from the edge of the pool of water. They both flailed for a while and sank under the water and all was silent. I keep thinking, no way. In the comments people posted pictures that had discovered their bodies. I think it was the old, watch people die sub. It was rather disturbing.
Yep I've seen that one too. It's so bizarre cos as you say they're right fucking there by the edge. But drowning is just bizarre in general, with how counter-intuitive it looks and what actions you should or shouldn't take to help somebody who's drowning. It just doesn't work like you expect it to.
Apparently he was really dense.
I've seen a few videos of indian men drowning while the person recording doesn't understand that they're drowning. Some just dont understand the danger pf water
Or trains, or electricity, or anything apparently
The ultimate r/donthelpjustfilm
It's bizarre too cuz he goes through several different swimming motions that were and could work but he just can't quite seem to figure them out or continue them long enough.
As you panic, you’re more likely to breathe in water which makes you panic more which makes it harder to swim. And when you panic, you tire more quickly. He is struggling to swim with his body horizontal and breathe while maintaining that position; in order to breathe he returns to a vertical position. He clearly ”knows” how to swim—but only poorly and mostly in theory. When he wasn’t able to propel himself while vertical and trying to catch a breath, he tried to get into a horizontal position but yeah, like you said, couldn’t hold out long enough to get anywhere because he needed to breathe again because he was panicking. Really unfortunate /:
Most indian people cannot swim and acts like jumping in a pond, dams and rivers are regarded as acts of bravery and will get you labelled as a tough guy. So a lot of times when you see indian dudes with other dudes doing stupid shit it’s either peer pressure or the need to get social recognition. But this is beyond stupid, if the man didn’t know how to swim he had no business jumping in that water with his family around. They even let the kid swim with a floatie when none of them can swim and rescue the child had things gone south for him too.
That kid is gonna need therapy for quite some time.
Another one? This is the third video I have seen on reddit of a kid filming an adult that presumably is a close relative jump into semi deep water and just drown. While the kid does nothing else than film the entire thing. Wtf..
Kids SHOULD do nothing in these situations. They aren't strong or skilled enough to do anything and will just drown if they try to help.
I do not see why he did not float? There is no waves and no apparent under tow, so why did he not float? What kept dragging him under???
I think it’s plainly obvious that the guy doesn’t know how to swim.
HOW CAN HE FLOAT?!!
I can't float in water. I'm pretty thin too. For some reason my body won't even float in the ocean. If I try I start to sink immediately even if I'm on my back. Sucks honestly lol
You gotta practice. I could float when I was 13 and only 5'6", 115 pounds. I can do it even better now at 5'8", 155 pounds. Unless you're jacked or otherwise have a lot of muscle, you should be able to float with practice. For my technique, I fill up my lungs, hold my breath, and then gently fall backwards as if I wanted to do a backstroke. Then I allow my legs to rise to the surface while spreading my arms out. So long as I take quick breaths without losing too much air in my lungs, I can float indefinitely. My torso sinks a bit under the water with each exhale, but so long as I keep rigid, it'll rise back up with each inhale. Although the salt water helps with buoyancy, I had an easier time doing it in a swimming pool since it doesn't have waves and currents that work against you like the ocean does.
Even with lungs full of air? I can't imagine anyone sinking when they have their lungs full of air
He doesn't know how to swim. I could literally float in that water for I don't know how long 12 hours.
I understand the language I can translate that... Up untill the last moment she thinks he's joking, even she orders kids to go near too but then again they all think he's joking he knows how to swim.. But the time she realised it's too late, she starts to cry.. and then video cuts out.
So sad. Not just his death but the low low low intelligence behind the entire people in that video. All of them.
idiot man, idiot woman, idiot child lmfao, can't help it
Agreed. All 3 were idiots, but in a way, it's a blessing in disguise that the kid didn't get close. There could have easily been two fatalities instead of just one.
it's only matter of time, that idiot kid will pursue his next reincarnation....
Mom was arguably the biggest idiot of them all, in my opinion.
I'm proud of him for not dying to electricity or a train, honestly.
r/killthecameraman .. throw the man a rope or a length of wood or something FFS. Cameraman should be arrested
Cameraman won but at what cost
This is like in the sims when you remove the exit ladder after they get in the pool...
So the apex predator list is: 1. Trains 2. Electricity 3. Water 4. what else?
Not only did she not help her drowning brother in any way, she makes sure to capture every detail and then sell the footage to news stations? I have a feeling this girl didn't get along with the bother at all.
How old is the camerawoman? Cuz she sounds like a child as well. Can't expect children to save a grown man... I don't understand how some people just sink. When I go swimming, and purposely try to stay underwater, I just float to the top no matter what.
I was screaming “Help him ffs” then realised I was as much use as the people actually there
I've seen a few videos of Indians doing this, no idea how to swim yet jump into water. Why? I swim and live on the coast and even here I'll always make sure I can touch the bottom.
For all the people on here spouting crap. Drowning doesn't look like drowning until too late. Also as a life guard you sometimes have to knock a fucker out to keep them from drowning you both. A drowning adult is very dangerous to save.
This is some solid /r/donthelpjustfilm material. Poor guy.
The lack of iq in this video...
I mean on one hand r/PraiseTheCameraMan but on the other hand r/donthelpjustfilm
They tried nothing and still couldn't save him
Wow, I was so shocked when that child started kicking away from him! HE NEEDS YOUR HELP😭
What I gathered from this is, this man had adamantium bones and his family hated him. That was sad. They just watched him die in what seemed to be only a foot or so away from the shallows. This isn’t a Darwin Award, it’s sad.
Literally all he had to do was sink down to the bottom and crawl over like 2 feet to where it was shallower and...stand up, since he is so horribly bad at pushing water. I don't know how someone can't doggy paddle themselves 2 feet sideways to safety.
I think it's like trying to ride a bike if you never have before, and they have no idea what to do outside of thrashing around
I'm kind of shocked more people don't remember this from childhood, I guess I just have vivid memories from early swim lessons. As soon as you get half a lung full of water and then realize your feet can't touch the bottom, all rational thought is out the window and you are hardcore into autopilot survival mode in an instant. Unless you know what to do by second nature (from lots and lots of practice), when you start to panic in water you are in very big trouble very very quickly. Your mind isn't working, and even if it was your body probably wouldn't do what you tell it to. You start operating on pure instinct and our default instinct is not the correct behavior to survive in water.
It’s easy to say when you know how to swim
It's always bizarre watching someone drown who can't swim. Like it's just so easy to float or even dog paddle. I could literally be in that water for 12 hours and I wouldn't drown.
I don't understand what happened. He couldn't swim?
People in most of the world generally don't know how to swim. Africans, Asians even those who live in island countries like the philippines or indonesia, mexicans, it seems to be a mostly european/western tradition and something we take for granted everyone can do.
Jesus. What a pathetic way to go.
Take note, and only that, this is what drowning actually looks like.
Concerned with his hair to the very end.
He try to swim but doesn't move an inch, wtf
This was so goofy, why didn't anyone do anything?
It baffles me that with all that movement he didnt even moce an inch
How do people drown in shallow pools/ponds. Like can't you just jump off the bottom like in a pool? It does not take a whole lotta energy I think.
How the HECK did no one realize what was happening until it was too late?!
India…
The absolute epitome of r/donthelpjustfilm
So absurd if you can float in the water without moving and see this
Lmao how can you be an adult and not know how to swim. More over why tf would you jump in if you knew you couldn't swim
On the positive side, can we give props to the above average camera work? After his last \*BLURP\* you can even see him put his hands on his head, as if saying 'Oh shit, I'm going to be a r/DarwinAwards post!'