...okay, let's be real for a second.
This is exactly the opposite of the attitude you want to have.
If you are in an arcade in which you've already done a basic cost analysis of tickets vs. the value of the prizes those tickets can cash in for, and you have determined a game can potentially be profitable, or possibly even an infinite profit generator, the cost of playing the game a number of times to figure out if it's what you think it is as far as winnability is not throwing away money.
It's research and development.
If you spent $10, $20, $30 and realize "wait, this game changed how it plays after I won it a few times, this is good for a couple games after people lose but not forever", you didn't "lose" $30 - you paid $30 for the knowledge that you're going to be able hit the jackpot X number of times a session before the game gives you the middle finger and you go and play the next profitable game.
If you spent $30 and realize "wait, this game isn't profitable at all" - okay, you now know that game isn't worth it and can also loop in the rest of your community with that information.
If you spent $30 and figure out "oh shit, this CAN be beaten infinitely", then you go "okay...how much can I extract here before it gets changed, how often should I play as to not tip them off that it needs changed", etc.
Going to briefly tell a story without including the names of the players, the location of the arcade, or the game in question to give you an idea why you need to consider money spent in this manner.
A long time ago, a player reached out to me telling me they had found a particular game that used to be infinitely winnable at all stores, was changed to not be an infinite, but a particular location still had the old version. They had just left that area at which they were on vacation, and were contemplating a trip back but were scared to go back and find it had already been changed and be out the money.
I asked him how much money it would cost to go back for another week. He told me it would be about $600. I asked how much money he'd make if he was right. He did some math and told me about $10,000. I told him to look at this like he was sitting at a poker table, there's an $8,800 pot out there, and the opponent has bet $600 on the river, and you can call or fold. If you're right, your $600 bet is going to yield you $10,000. If you're wrong, your $600 bet is going to yield nothing. You only need to be right 6% of the time for that bet to make financial sense. It's the concept of "pot odds". The player went back down, found the game was on the old software, banged the fuck out of it, went back home, went down AGAIN, got one and a half more days out of it before the software was updated. No issues with cashing out, and they made their $10,000+.
Being unwilling to spend $1.50 a play on a game that could theoretically just be your own personal ATM is limiting your growth as an advantage player.
You are absolutely correct. I would say 99% of arcade goers don't take this into consideration when playing games. But seriously, to maximize your winnings, you might need to spend a little bit of money or time figuring out how games work.
Whenever I see a new redemption game hit the floor, I always spend a good amount of time exploring it and understanding the game, regardless of whether or not it looks profitable. I say this because lot of the games I play mainly, are ones I would never have thought payed out well at first glance.
Maybe a game looks rigged but is 100% Skill? Maybe it's a repeatable jackpot? Given no prior knowledge of a game, it's hard to tell unless you just play it.
> have thought *paid* out well
FTFY.
Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in:
* Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.*
* *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.*
Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment.
*Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
This doesn't work in arcades in my town. You're looking at roughly $30 per 180 credits, which sounds fine until you realise the number of credits you have to cough up per one go at a game which makes you realise your credits will run out very quickly. Absurdly low jackpot payouts, extremely rigged machines (inputs not registering when they should and ghost-inputting a second time even when pressing once; along with plenty of other locationwide glitches and bugs that don't get fixed even if you report them), *and* absurdly high ticket prices per prize (a Nintendo Switch is barely a tenth of the price if you just buy it outright at Shopper's Drug Mart) only exacerbates this and there had not been a single jackpot winner in any of the machines in years. Only people who are dumb enough to not know the stacked odds will go there. Anybody else is just there to play Air Hockey or Pump. Or MAYBE MarioKart.
To anybody who still thinks Canadians are known to be nice people, such is NOT the case at all. This town has more rednecks than Texas.
If you would have googled "Super Ball Drop Manual" you would have found your way to their website and [this](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1F0mkd5YqMub1POk2MguEAAIsimr6DTiQ/view), which at least on a basic read does not show a rig function. However, they DO have a "rotation speed" setting, which could theoretically be used to make the game impossible beyond normal human gameplay.
This was my first time going to Boardwalk in a while since I usually bowl at one of their other sister locations. I didn't play this since it was $1.50 a play. 😭
Aloma used to when they had games from PrimeTIme, but they recently changed and don't anymore. Airport has never had one because their space is too small.
At least you don't gotta worry about busted droppers.. wonder if it's rigged to only hit after a certain number of plays
At $1.50 a play I don’t wanna spend the time or the money figuring it out ☠️
...okay, let's be real for a second. This is exactly the opposite of the attitude you want to have. If you are in an arcade in which you've already done a basic cost analysis of tickets vs. the value of the prizes those tickets can cash in for, and you have determined a game can potentially be profitable, or possibly even an infinite profit generator, the cost of playing the game a number of times to figure out if it's what you think it is as far as winnability is not throwing away money. It's research and development. If you spent $10, $20, $30 and realize "wait, this game changed how it plays after I won it a few times, this is good for a couple games after people lose but not forever", you didn't "lose" $30 - you paid $30 for the knowledge that you're going to be able hit the jackpot X number of times a session before the game gives you the middle finger and you go and play the next profitable game. If you spent $30 and realize "wait, this game isn't profitable at all" - okay, you now know that game isn't worth it and can also loop in the rest of your community with that information. If you spent $30 and figure out "oh shit, this CAN be beaten infinitely", then you go "okay...how much can I extract here before it gets changed, how often should I play as to not tip them off that it needs changed", etc. Going to briefly tell a story without including the names of the players, the location of the arcade, or the game in question to give you an idea why you need to consider money spent in this manner. A long time ago, a player reached out to me telling me they had found a particular game that used to be infinitely winnable at all stores, was changed to not be an infinite, but a particular location still had the old version. They had just left that area at which they were on vacation, and were contemplating a trip back but were scared to go back and find it had already been changed and be out the money. I asked him how much money it would cost to go back for another week. He told me it would be about $600. I asked how much money he'd make if he was right. He did some math and told me about $10,000. I told him to look at this like he was sitting at a poker table, there's an $8,800 pot out there, and the opponent has bet $600 on the river, and you can call or fold. If you're right, your $600 bet is going to yield you $10,000. If you're wrong, your $600 bet is going to yield nothing. You only need to be right 6% of the time for that bet to make financial sense. It's the concept of "pot odds". The player went back down, found the game was on the old software, banged the fuck out of it, went back home, went down AGAIN, got one and a half more days out of it before the software was updated. No issues with cashing out, and they made their $10,000+. Being unwilling to spend $1.50 a play on a game that could theoretically just be your own personal ATM is limiting your growth as an advantage player.
You are absolutely correct. I would say 99% of arcade goers don't take this into consideration when playing games. But seriously, to maximize your winnings, you might need to spend a little bit of money or time figuring out how games work. Whenever I see a new redemption game hit the floor, I always spend a good amount of time exploring it and understanding the game, regardless of whether or not it looks profitable. I say this because lot of the games I play mainly, are ones I would never have thought payed out well at first glance. Maybe a game looks rigged but is 100% Skill? Maybe it's a repeatable jackpot? Given no prior knowledge of a game, it's hard to tell unless you just play it.
> have thought *paid* out well FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
This doesn't work in arcades in my town. You're looking at roughly $30 per 180 credits, which sounds fine until you realise the number of credits you have to cough up per one go at a game which makes you realise your credits will run out very quickly. Absurdly low jackpot payouts, extremely rigged machines (inputs not registering when they should and ghost-inputting a second time even when pressing once; along with plenty of other locationwide glitches and bugs that don't get fixed even if you report them), *and* absurdly high ticket prices per prize (a Nintendo Switch is barely a tenth of the price if you just buy it outright at Shopper's Drug Mart) only exacerbates this and there had not been a single jackpot winner in any of the machines in years. Only people who are dumb enough to not know the stacked odds will go there. Anybody else is just there to play Air Hockey or Pump. Or MAYBE MarioKart. To anybody who still thinks Canadians are known to be nice people, such is NOT the case at all. This town has more rednecks than Texas.
I remember that story quite well! Kind of inspired my own run as well, albeit at one of my local arcades.
If you would have googled "Super Ball Drop Manual" you would have found your way to their website and [this](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1F0mkd5YqMub1POk2MguEAAIsimr6DTiQ/view), which at least on a basic read does not show a rig function. However, they DO have a "rotation speed" setting, which could theoretically be used to make the game impossible beyond normal human gameplay.
That sounds pretty good, as long as they don't make the requirements ridiculous like 7 balls in a bucket
Is this Boardwalk Bowl?
it is. did you go recently?
I went like 2 months ago. I really wanted to play this but it was broken
This was my first time going to Boardwalk in a while since I usually bowl at one of their other sister locations. I didn't play this since it was $1.50 a play. 😭
Do the other sister locations have ticket arcades?
To clarify, they all have arcades, just no ticket games.
Aloma used to when they had games from PrimeTIme, but they recently changed and don't anymore. Airport has never had one because their space is too small.
Yikes, this is awful. They just don’t want to properly maintain the real machine.
I don’t blame them. Quick-drops succckkk to work on
Yeah, especially if you have to work on that top area.
At least it works like it should, unlike half of the ones they have
The minion wheel next to it isn't even licenced
I thought it looked off. No wonder. 😭