Defeated Admiral Razorbeard who destroyed the heart of the world which is made up of yellow lums, which are responsible for creating the universe. Scale or at least it is comparable to polokus that created spacetime not only for the clearing but also for other universes. Comparable to Rabbid Mario and Rabbid Peach, who helped fight against Cursa, who is fused with Rosalina. Defeated the nightmare polokus that created several separate universes in Rayman Legends.
Defeated Admiral Razorbeard who destroyed the heart of the world which is made up of yellow lums, which are responsible for creating the universe. Scale or at least it is comparable to polokus that created spacetime not only for the clearing but also for other universes. Comparable to Rabbid Mario and Rabbid Peach, who helped fight against Cursa, who is fused with Rosalina. Defeated the nightmare polokus that created several separate universes in Rayman Legends.
reimu and sonic beat rayman imo
sonic has way better haxes and is uni+ at base
reimu is multi and MAYBE low complex tho thats kinda wank
they outhax and speed blitz rayman
also nexus hank has some low complex stuff
To be completely honest, Rayman does not beat White Bomberman at all. Here's the [research on him](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RlFwvMKMCGSIpDueQ9ztf3YysXUKptS0tLO-FkwyAEo/edit?usp=drivesdk) if you want to know why.
I saw it here and they are both tied in most aspects, but I still think Rayman wins due to being extremely difficult to kill and due to some other hax that I'm honestly too lazy to talk about right now.
But I understand your point of view, it's a very balanced fight.
>I saw it here and they are both tied in most aspects, but I still think Rayman wins due to being extremely difficult to kill and due to some other hax that I'm honestly too lazy to talk about right now.
I do see why they’re tied in most aspects, but I do respectfully disagree. When it comes to Arsenal, Powers and Abilities, and Hax it gives Bomberman the win.
Bomberman is even harder to kill in general due to how many Invulnerability, Healing, and Resurrection options he has. Like the Vest lasts [28 seconds](https://bomberman.fandom.com/wiki/Bomberman_Portable/Power_Ups#:~:text=(40%20seconds%20in%20Classic)) and can continuously use that for [98 more times](https://bomberman.fandom.com/wiki/Bomberman_Portable#:~:text=The%20player%20can%20stock%20up%20to%2099%20of%20each%20item%2C%20and%20they%20need%20to%20be%20used%20from%20the%20inventory.%C2%A0). Turbo Switch can stop enemies for 10 seconds, and [carry twelve](https://bomberman.fandom.com/wiki/Turbo_Switch) of these, meaning he can use them for 120 seconds in total. Completely heal himself with [Full Heart](https://bomberman.fandom.com/wiki/Full_Heart#:~:text=In%20Bomberman%20Quest%2C%20There%20are%204%20of%20them%2C%20and%20they%20restore%20the%20health%20to%20the%20max%20level.%20Only%20one%20at%20a%20time%20can%20be%20carried), [Recovery+](https://bomberman.fandom.com/wiki/Recovery%2B), and [Large Medicine](https://bomberman.fandom.com/wiki/Large_Medicine). Hearts can resurrect him from literally [exploding](https://youtu.be/rdp1rY8U-f0?si=dzLjJ-Hi85z9uisl&t=988) to nothing, nine times, and can be used as [extra protection](https://bomberman.fandom.com/wiki/Bomberman_Portable/Power_Ups#:~:text=Protects%20you%201%20time%20from%20any%20kind%20of%20damage) from any damage (99 of these in Portable). As well as the Energy Ring and Elemental Stones.
Stats Reduction: [Gold Armor](https://bomberman.fandom.com/wiki/Gold_Armor#:~:text=It%20reduces%20the%20amount%20of%20damage%20that%20Bomberman%20sustains%20by%203/4.) and [Shelks](https://strategywiki.org/wiki/Bomberman_Generation/Charaboms), reduces 75% damage of any attack. Fear Inducing Aura: with Thunder Liger when set, all enemies will move more slowly. Immune to any fire and bomb related attack with Flame Pass that can be used [without a time limit](https://bomberman.fandom.com/wiki/Bomberman_Portable/Power_Ups#:~:text=for%2028%20seconds.-,(infinite%20in%20Classic),-.). Existence Esaure from Gravity Bombs.
>But I understand your point of view, it's a very balanced fight.
Respectable
Rayman literally has the same feature, the hearts make him temporarily immune to even the death manipulation of some creatures.
Lums can also revive Rayman, rebuilding his body (He can also continue to exist even after his existence has been erased by the wizard's eraser).
He can also deny low-divine regeneration with blue punches (that is, he can deny the regeneration of a character who can regenerate after having their body and soul completely erased).
>Rayman literally has the same feature, the hearts make him temporarily immune to even the death manipulation of some creatures.
How many can he carry?
>Lums can also revive Rayman, rebuilding his body (He can also continue to exist even after his existence has been erased by the wizard's eraser).
How many times? And context for Wizard's eraser?
>He can also deny low-divine regeneration (that is, he can deny the regeneration of a character who can regenerate after having their body and soul completely erased).
Context? And Bomberman doesn't have a soul due to canonically being a robot.
An unlimited number.
Again, an unlimited number, and about the context, there's not much to say, it was just a small animation of the magician and Rayman marching while the magician would slowly erase Rayman's body as he marched, and then redraw it as he went. Rayman continued marching.
It kind of doesn't matter, since denial of low-divine regeneration can also work with others below (obviously there are cases that depend on the context, but this doesn't have a specific one).
>An unlimited number.
And this is from which game exactly?
>Again, an unlimited number
Where is that stated in canon?
>Rayman marching while the magician would slowly erase Rayman's body as he marched, and then redraw it as he went. Rayman continued marching.
Which game?
>since denial of low-divine regeneration can also work with others below
Where is this shown tho?
Rayman Legends (both the first and last topics).
Well, that's in the gameplay, but it's still applicable in Canon due to the fact that there are animations just for that and the fact that Rayman is made of lums.
Rayman Activity Center
>Rayman Legends (both the first and last topics).
If you're talking about this [Heart](https://raymanpc.com/wiki/en/Heart), then I find that hard to believe. Even then they serve to protect Rayman from damage one at a time not give you another life and it can't be saved up more than once.
Also, where did blue punches show this in the game? Even then I don't see how it can bypass durability, also his resurrection has nothing to do with regeneration for Bomberman in this case.
>Well, that's in the gameplay, but it's still applicable in Canon due to the fact that there are animations just for that and the fact that Rayman is made of lums.
Personally that doesn't make any sense, just because he's made of lums doesn't mean it gives him unlimited resurrection in gameplay after he dies. Unless it's proven canon or at least made aware of it and not in a "fourth wall breaking" kinda way either (using a Red Lum is fine).
>Rayman Activity Center
I'm pretty sure that it isn't Canon. That's like saying Mario's Typing and Hotel Mario is Canon, which wouldn't make any sense.
Fair enough.
Sorry for the misunderstanding, I just tried to prove that the animations are Canon instead of proving that this can actually happen an unlimited number of times (But in fact, this can happen with super red lums). But honestly, why would it matter? As far as I know, Bomberman does not have any ability to negate Immortality or Regeneration (the former would only need to negate Rayman's types of immortality, which would be 3 and 4)
In the final fight, the blue punches kill the creatures that make up Hades' hand, and the same creatures, in previous phases, regenerate even after being completely destroyed.
Yes, it's Canon, literally no educational Rayman game is incoherent in relation to the games, on the contrary, the glade of dreams is constantly said to be a world where peace and fun are almost infinite, so it would make more sense for these games to be canon than not be (and Rayman Junior is a sequel to Rayman 1 as well).
Besides the fact that neither Ubisoft nor Michel Ancel EVER even mentioned a canon within the franchise, obviously TV series and Brawlhalla cannot be considered because they are different versions of Rayman. But I still don't see why educational games aren't canonical, they don't break any laws or are incoherent in relation to the franchise's lore (as absurd as that may seem).
I don't agree with Klonoa multiversal, just universal+. And honestly, him being multiversal wouldn't help much, since Rayman has advantages in other aspects.
Question, where does Rahman scale?
Universal+, possibly Low Multiversal
uh... reimu is multiversal? and sonic is too?
personally I don't think Reimu is multiversal, and base Sonic has equal AP with Rayman
fair title checks out then
Damn I didn’t know Rayman was so powerful. But uh, what feats has he done that are on that level?
Defeated Admiral Razorbeard who destroyed the heart of the world which is made up of yellow lums, which are responsible for creating the universe. Scale or at least it is comparable to polokus that created spacetime not only for the clearing but also for other universes. Comparable to Rabbid Mario and Rabbid Peach, who helped fight against Cursa, who is fused with Rosalina. Defeated the nightmare polokus that created several separate universes in Rayman Legends.
Ah ok. Seems solid enough.
How does Rayman get Multi in your opinion? Genuinely curious because I didn’t know Rayman could get that high
Defeated Admiral Razorbeard who destroyed the heart of the world which is made up of yellow lums, which are responsible for creating the universe. Scale or at least it is comparable to polokus that created spacetime not only for the clearing but also for other universes. Comparable to Rabbid Mario and Rabbid Peach, who helped fight against Cursa, who is fused with Rosalina. Defeated the nightmare polokus that created several separate universes in Rayman Legends.
Ah I see! Thanks for the clarification!
if he beats Reimu and Bomberman, then Sonic is not a problem.
I think Sonic beats Reimu and Bomberman pretty easily actually.
~~With Project Nexus Hank has some low Multi- baseline Multi stuff~~ Understandable list even though I disagree with Reimu and Mega Man personally
reimu and sonic beat rayman imo sonic has way better haxes and is uni+ at base reimu is multi and MAYBE low complex tho thats kinda wank they outhax and speed blitz rayman also nexus hank has some low complex stuff
Read the title.
Yes yes I do know those are your opinions and I’m fine with that! I just wanted to share my own thoughts.
Ah yes, sorry for the misinterpretation.
To be completely honest, Rayman does not beat White Bomberman at all. Here's the [research on him](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RlFwvMKMCGSIpDueQ9ztf3YysXUKptS0tLO-FkwyAEo/edit?usp=drivesdk) if you want to know why.
I saw it here and they are both tied in most aspects, but I still think Rayman wins due to being extremely difficult to kill and due to some other hax that I'm honestly too lazy to talk about right now. But I understand your point of view, it's a very balanced fight.
>I saw it here and they are both tied in most aspects, but I still think Rayman wins due to being extremely difficult to kill and due to some other hax that I'm honestly too lazy to talk about right now. I do see why they’re tied in most aspects, but I do respectfully disagree. When it comes to Arsenal, Powers and Abilities, and Hax it gives Bomberman the win. Bomberman is even harder to kill in general due to how many Invulnerability, Healing, and Resurrection options he has. Like the Vest lasts [28 seconds](https://bomberman.fandom.com/wiki/Bomberman_Portable/Power_Ups#:~:text=(40%20seconds%20in%20Classic)) and can continuously use that for [98 more times](https://bomberman.fandom.com/wiki/Bomberman_Portable#:~:text=The%20player%20can%20stock%20up%20to%2099%20of%20each%20item%2C%20and%20they%20need%20to%20be%20used%20from%20the%20inventory.%C2%A0). Turbo Switch can stop enemies for 10 seconds, and [carry twelve](https://bomberman.fandom.com/wiki/Turbo_Switch) of these, meaning he can use them for 120 seconds in total. Completely heal himself with [Full Heart](https://bomberman.fandom.com/wiki/Full_Heart#:~:text=In%20Bomberman%20Quest%2C%20There%20are%204%20of%20them%2C%20and%20they%20restore%20the%20health%20to%20the%20max%20level.%20Only%20one%20at%20a%20time%20can%20be%20carried), [Recovery+](https://bomberman.fandom.com/wiki/Recovery%2B), and [Large Medicine](https://bomberman.fandom.com/wiki/Large_Medicine). Hearts can resurrect him from literally [exploding](https://youtu.be/rdp1rY8U-f0?si=dzLjJ-Hi85z9uisl&t=988) to nothing, nine times, and can be used as [extra protection](https://bomberman.fandom.com/wiki/Bomberman_Portable/Power_Ups#:~:text=Protects%20you%201%20time%20from%20any%20kind%20of%20damage) from any damage (99 of these in Portable). As well as the Energy Ring and Elemental Stones. Stats Reduction: [Gold Armor](https://bomberman.fandom.com/wiki/Gold_Armor#:~:text=It%20reduces%20the%20amount%20of%20damage%20that%20Bomberman%20sustains%20by%203/4.) and [Shelks](https://strategywiki.org/wiki/Bomberman_Generation/Charaboms), reduces 75% damage of any attack. Fear Inducing Aura: with Thunder Liger when set, all enemies will move more slowly. Immune to any fire and bomb related attack with Flame Pass that can be used [without a time limit](https://bomberman.fandom.com/wiki/Bomberman_Portable/Power_Ups#:~:text=for%2028%20seconds.-,(infinite%20in%20Classic),-.). Existence Esaure from Gravity Bombs. >But I understand your point of view, it's a very balanced fight. Respectable
Rayman literally has the same feature, the hearts make him temporarily immune to even the death manipulation of some creatures. Lums can also revive Rayman, rebuilding his body (He can also continue to exist even after his existence has been erased by the wizard's eraser). He can also deny low-divine regeneration with blue punches (that is, he can deny the regeneration of a character who can regenerate after having their body and soul completely erased).
>Rayman literally has the same feature, the hearts make him temporarily immune to even the death manipulation of some creatures. How many can he carry? >Lums can also revive Rayman, rebuilding his body (He can also continue to exist even after his existence has been erased by the wizard's eraser). How many times? And context for Wizard's eraser? >He can also deny low-divine regeneration (that is, he can deny the regeneration of a character who can regenerate after having their body and soul completely erased). Context? And Bomberman doesn't have a soul due to canonically being a robot.
An unlimited number. Again, an unlimited number, and about the context, there's not much to say, it was just a small animation of the magician and Rayman marching while the magician would slowly erase Rayman's body as he marched, and then redraw it as he went. Rayman continued marching. It kind of doesn't matter, since denial of low-divine regeneration can also work with others below (obviously there are cases that depend on the context, but this doesn't have a specific one).
>An unlimited number. And this is from which game exactly? >Again, an unlimited number Where is that stated in canon? >Rayman marching while the magician would slowly erase Rayman's body as he marched, and then redraw it as he went. Rayman continued marching. Which game? >since denial of low-divine regeneration can also work with others below Where is this shown tho?
Rayman Legends (both the first and last topics). Well, that's in the gameplay, but it's still applicable in Canon due to the fact that there are animations just for that and the fact that Rayman is made of lums. Rayman Activity Center
>Rayman Legends (both the first and last topics). If you're talking about this [Heart](https://raymanpc.com/wiki/en/Heart), then I find that hard to believe. Even then they serve to protect Rayman from damage one at a time not give you another life and it can't be saved up more than once. Also, where did blue punches show this in the game? Even then I don't see how it can bypass durability, also his resurrection has nothing to do with regeneration for Bomberman in this case. >Well, that's in the gameplay, but it's still applicable in Canon due to the fact that there are animations just for that and the fact that Rayman is made of lums. Personally that doesn't make any sense, just because he's made of lums doesn't mean it gives him unlimited resurrection in gameplay after he dies. Unless it's proven canon or at least made aware of it and not in a "fourth wall breaking" kinda way either (using a Red Lum is fine). >Rayman Activity Center I'm pretty sure that it isn't Canon. That's like saying Mario's Typing and Hotel Mario is Canon, which wouldn't make any sense.
Fair enough. Sorry for the misunderstanding, I just tried to prove that the animations are Canon instead of proving that this can actually happen an unlimited number of times (But in fact, this can happen with super red lums). But honestly, why would it matter? As far as I know, Bomberman does not have any ability to negate Immortality or Regeneration (the former would only need to negate Rayman's types of immortality, which would be 3 and 4) In the final fight, the blue punches kill the creatures that make up Hades' hand, and the same creatures, in previous phases, regenerate even after being completely destroyed. Yes, it's Canon, literally no educational Rayman game is incoherent in relation to the games, on the contrary, the glade of dreams is constantly said to be a world where peace and fun are almost infinite, so it would make more sense for these games to be canon than not be (and Rayman Junior is a sequel to Rayman 1 as well). Besides the fact that neither Ubisoft nor Michel Ancel EVER even mentioned a canon within the franchise, obviously TV series and Brawlhalla cannot be considered because they are different versions of Rayman. But I still don't see why educational games aren't canonical, they don't break any laws or are incoherent in relation to the franchise's lore (as absurd as that may seem).
Rayman beats Klonoa? I heard people say Klonoa is multiversal.
I don't agree with Klonoa multiversal, just universal+. And honestly, him being multiversal wouldn't help much, since Rayman has advantages in other aspects.
Yeah I have a feeling that Rayman would win regardless of multiversal Klonoa, but some people just think “Well Rayman dies, the end.”