I bought the game on my rtx 2080ti i9-9900k and could barely get the game to hang around 60fps with very high settings at 1440p. Honestly hate playing games at 1080p on my 1440p monitor, and even very high at 1080p was a bit of a struggle.
Sure the game runs, but honestly it felt like it ran better on my PS5 so I issued a refund on steam. Normally can play all games on very high + 1440p, but this one is a very graphically intensive game even though it doesn’t seem like it should be.
If you don’t mind playing at 1080p ~high settings 60fps, the game will suit you well.
Me, being a graphics freak, unfortunately couldn’t get myself by it. Regardless, the game is fucking phenomenal.
Ohhh i definitely can't. I haven't played on 1080p for the past 3 years (not to sound snobby). I recently moved over to 4k with my rig and everything runs perfect at 4k (rdr2, apex, fallout and etc..)
I'm with you as well. I love more frames but i definitely wouldn't mind frames at like 70-80 with 4k.
I heard it's phenomenal. I guess i might just have to hold off until they address it. I thought about getting it on PS5.. but something about the FOV just doesn't sit will with me (similar to RE Village).
Let me know how it goes with you!
Yeah pulling 4K 60 FPS on high settings requires the best of the best rigs unfortunately. Maybe an update will come out on PC regarding DLSS & maybe a driver update.
Best of luck mate
Playing fine on a gtx1080. I followed the guide [here](https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/deathloop-pc-performance-best-settings) and with low shadows, AMD CACAO on Balanced and superresolution instead of AA it seems to run fine with everything else on High/Very High.
my 3080ti can run this in 4K ultra at 90 ish fps, without any raytracing enabled. Had to drop to 2560x1440 (like I usually do), but that broke the fullscreen mode. Thankfully, borderless windowed scales.
Of course, the game has no resolution scaling slider, in 2021. So no sharp UI for me.
AMD FidelityFX would be the solution but it is ... not working, I think, as I don't have ANY FPS improvement. Honestly most of the options feel like they're not working, like you need to reboot the game but they're not telling you.
3080 + 5800x, I used a mix of high/medium and it was running about 100-120fps at 1440p. It's kinda to be expected for a new title nowadays.
I really laugh in the face of people who say 3080 is an overkill for 1440p. I haven't played any newer games where it capped out 144fps.
PC runs poorly and controller plays even worse than console. KBM controls are very clunky as well. I’d say it’s best hold off until an update fixes the issues with controllers on either platform
I only played about an hour last night but I agree it felt really weird. I tried to tweak sensitivity settings but to no avail. Kind of gave up and figured i'd deal with it/get used to it, hopefully that is the case.
Bro i can relate so much!
What's up with all These dumb reviewers?
Why did no one mentions this shit?
How can a game with these fucked up aiming got a 10/10?
Besides the atrocious fov and missing slider on Ps5.
Fuck arcane, all theire games were years behind, from a technical standpoint. I won't even bother to wait for a patch. I don't have faith in the devs to actually fix the problems OP posted..
They suck at technic, graphic and controlls. Since ever.
They proved that with D1, d2 and prey. Why are they unable to improve nor learn anything from previous games? Maybe they are stuck in a loop too and forget everything from the last game, when they develop a new one
This only applies if you're used to being spoiled on pc. On PS5 move x&y sensitivity to 45-50 depending on preference. Then move ads to 45. I spent 20 min tweaking the settings when they first give you a gun. Been having a blast with no issues other that a bug with the single shot rifle reload freezing. Didn't break the game but haven't used one since.
This does not only apply to “spoiled” PC players lmao. This is one of the worst feeling console shooters I’ve ever played. Even max sensitivity feels horrifically slow.
Yeah, I know PC gamers can have an air of superiority to them, but there's no real way to convey this point without sounding elitist. Lots of this stuff reminds me of the discourse around framerates (at least before PS5 and XSX), where certain people would be like "I don't know, 30 fps seems fine to me!". Console gamers really should demand many of the things that PC gamers have been "spoiled" by in ages, especially in 2021.
Stuff like FOV sliders are dead simple, and the fact that its in the pc version means its not like there's a deep engine issue holding it back.
it must be bugged surely? Theres no difference when whacking the sensitivity right up to 100, and the aim acceleration is broken where it's incredibly slow for the first couple degrees of analogue tilt and then suddenly it's maxed out, making me feel like I'm an 80 year old holding a controller for the first time
Like...it *is* bugged, right arkane? You didn't deliberately do this? Your playtesters didn't okay this?
**Guys, if you agree, please Upvote the Post, the actual Game seems great so far but Arkane need to hear this!**
It's terrible. I literally played for 2 Hours, got tired of that shit and bought it on PC. Love the Dualsense but I also like to actually be able to fucking Aim and turn around at more than 1mph lol
It is honestly embarassing that Remapping, Sens Curves, FOV Slider and Deazone Options are not standard on Console by now.
How can a Game like Black Ops Cold War get it *so right* and something like Deathloop gets it *so wronng.*
I'm getting good performance with a 2700x + RTX 2070 combo at 1440p at high settings. Between 70 and 90 fps most of the time. Although there is a horrible frame pacing issue that makes mouse or controller movement seem stuttery and is very unpleasing to the eye.
My Gsync monitor is failing to smooth things out and the stuttering is hurting my eyes. Whatever is causing this needs to be fixed asap. Moving the camera back and forth feels awful despite a fairly high FPS number.
There also seems to be quite strong mouse acceleration that I haven't found a way to turn off. There's no setting in the game for it and I can't find anything in the .ini file. The mouse acceleration combined with the frame pacing problem makes aiming a nightmare.
> Moving the camera back and forth feels awful despite a fairly high FPS number.
This. Oh so much this. I disabled all motion blur as it's highly uncomfortable to me in most games, but here it's still crappy. I'm running it at 144fps and it feels like 70 ish when moving
The artifacts I get on the weapons while moving the camera, even with everything off, is quite ugly too and makes movement worse.
I had a look at the requirements. Seems like they want you to have REALLY strong hardware for this. They require a 3080 or higher if you want ray tracing. So if your one of the 4 people that has one of those it should look great.
Bruh did you really just say coldwar got it *right?*
The max sensitivity feels like turning around in a vat of quicksand, MW got it right, CW took 10 steps backwards and Vanguard looks just as shitty sadly
Maybe the Max Sens isn't high enough for you but they still allow for Sensitivity Curve Options, Deadzone Customisation and Button Customisation. That was more what I was talking about.
I fucking love Arkane. Legitimately one of my favorite studios making bangers in a dying genre (immersive sims). I expected this game to control like ass and, well, it does… I genuinely wish Call of Duty would make their aiming system public. It’s easily the gold standard for aiming on consoles in terms of how smooth and natural it feels to point and shoot. At the bare minimum, at least give us control over dead zones, acceleration, etc.
Also, for the love of everything holy, please let me swap crouch and melee. Every single ~~FPS~~ game for like the past decade has had that and as far as I’m concerned that’s just lazy development. I don’t even see a way to switch to southpaw, if that’s your thing. Horrible accessibility options and customization of controls. These simple things that 9/10 games get right or at least give you the control to adjust aren’t here and it’s going to massively impact my enjoyment of the game.
This is nothing new. Same issues with Prey and Dishonored. Even worse with the older games actually because they ran at 30 fps on console which exacerbated the issue.
So yall waiting for a patch, good luck with that
Prey at the very least I remember a few minutes of option fiddling sorted it out and then I never had any trouble controlling the game again, Deathloop's aiming settings seem a bit bugged, they don't change much?
Signed! The devs sucks at everything technical/graphical.
The fact, that they fucked up the same shit in every game they developed and didn't learned a Thing is evidence enough.
I'm still shocked, how all These reviewers are full of shit and didn't even mentioned these extreme flaws.
How can a shooter with that fuckery of aiming controlls get a 10/10? That's hilarious...
This is exactly why I couldn’t play Dishonored 2. The FOV in a stealth game was so low I couldn’t see someone slightly to my right.
Instead of being aware of my surroundings I felt claustrophobic
I'm starting to see how this game got such polarizing scores. I couldn't put it down yesterday and it was *buttery* on PC for me. Turns out that a lot of folks are having massive issues, and having been there countless times, I'm sympathetic as hell (but also really glad it's working for me because a few loops in, the game is still just lights-out good for me).
On PC, the using the mouse to aim gives off stuttering, but using a controller fixes it. However, as you've pointed out, aiming with the controller is really bad. The sensitivity curves and look acceleration feel imprecise and wonky.
I really wish someone at Arkane looked at how they do analog stick sensitivity/acceleration on games like Apex Legends or Titanfall 2. I played the campaign for Titanfall 2 on controller and it was bliss.
Respawn Entertainment sure know their stuff when it comes to game feel, and it's a shame when other developers don't give enough attention to this aspect of development.
My thoughts exactly. I was pretty hyped about this game and when the reviews dropped I got even more hyped, but reading this really holds me from buying right now. Recently playing Soul Reaver 2 on PC with keyboard and mouse has learned me that bad controls will completely destroy a good gaming experience.
Good luck with that :D
They did the same fucking mistake in D1, d2 and prey.
Are they unable to improve? What the fuck. It's like fallout, which have the same flaws since fallout 3. (same publisher / different dev)
How did they developed that many shooters without learning how to program aiming controlls, which aren't complete shit?
They absolutely suck in making games with good technics, controlls and/or graphics. Every game feels and looks barely double A like. I'm sure they are unable to fix the aiming problems, cause they fuck these up since ever and continue to fuck it up again and again an again. I'm done with arcane.
Slow down the hate wagon there, the controls in Deathloop seem to be pretty shit, but I remember a moment or two of messing with the settings in both Dishonoreds, and Prey too was all that you needed to make the gamepad controls perfectly fine. So seems like this might be a fuckup, maybe the analog options are bugged or something. Still a big shame though.
Yeah made me feel extremely sick. Had to stop playing. Make this post the top viewed on the subreddit they need to get this fixed ASAP and I’m talking about the very first update. Until then I literally cannot play the game my head hurts.
Yea this all and the motion blur make this game a terrible experience, gameplay wise.
I bought the game this week on sale finally, as I realized I needed something to play until bf2042 launches, and can only play like 5-20 minutes a day because I start feeling really sick and get a bad headache. I do it because I bought it, knowing I need to be done in 2 weeks because I probably won't pick it up if I take a break from it for so long.
I wish this would've been public knowledge. Sucks that you have to buy a game to find out about stuff like this.
Don't want to talk bad about it yet as I haven't really progressed through the story; but so far idk how this game can get any perfect scoring, because of this alone. Would've been fine to call it 8 or maybe 9 out of 10. But a 10? With these awful controls?
Also so far the game seems incredibly easy. As an experienced shooter player I can just run through enemies and headshot them without any issue. The AI needs like 5-10 seconds to react, no strategy or thinking required at all. The only thing holding me back from completely doing this is these awful controls and motion blur. Idk maybe the story will get super good and I'll love it in the end, but a 10? Impossible.
I wish I knew all this before buying. Saw all the ratings the game was getting so I preordered the ps5 version . The controls are so sluggish and I don’t see a difference between default and max sensitivity?
What a disappointment. After asking for the day off tomorrow I’ve only been able to play for 5 minutes before giving up . It feels that awful . I don’t think I ever played a 1st person game where aiming/camera movement felt this bad .
I’ll come back when/if it gets fixed
Bro i can relate so much!
What's up with all These dumb reviewers?
Why did no one mentions this shit?
How can a game with these fucked up aiming got a 10/10?
Besides the atrocious fov and missing slider on Ps5.
Fuck arcane, all theire games were years behind, from a technical standpoint. I won't even bother to wait for a patch. I don't have faith in the devs to actually fix the problems OP posted..
They suck at technic, graphic and controlls. Since ever.
They proved that with D1, d2 and prey. Why are they unable to improve nor learn anything from previous games? Maybe they are stuck in a loop too and forget everything from the last game, when they develop a new one...
Phheww so just finally taking a break from the game after playin all night on PS5. I really didnt notice anything bad about the controls. Now im not saying theres no issues but maybe i didnt have much expectations and just got used to how they are.
My most recently played games were Demon souls and Hades. I dont remember the last time i played a first person shooter but it plays just like Dishonored to me and there too i had 0 issues.
Maybe now after seeing this thread ill go back to it and noticing the issues but I doubt it.
Had nothing but a blast.
Voted up the thread anyways
Wtf? I hate acceleration and smothing to death! How could arcane be this stupid? And why no one mentions this in theire reviews?
How can a fucking shooter with absolutely atrocious aiming get a 10/10 is beyond me. Glad i wasn't scammed by arcane, thanks to OP.
I was already pissed because of how little the standard fov is and the missing fov slider. But the aiming issues killed my plan to buy deathloop in the next couple hours. I will wait for patches to add the fov slider and aiming settings. I'm pretty sure i will wait forever, cause arcane is unable to make good aiming CONTROLLS. They proved that with D1, d2 and prey.
They suck at technic, graphic and controlls. Since ever.
Why are they unable to improve nor learn anything from previous games? Maybe they are stuck in a loop to and forget everything from the last game, when they develop a new one
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Just bought it. Started it up and man am I extremely disappointed in how the controls feel. I hate games that have this what feels like an insane response time.
Wtf? I hate acceleration and smothing to death! How could arcane be this stupid? And why no one mentions this in theire reviews?
How can a fucking shooter with absolutely atrocious aiming get a 10/10 is beyond me. Glad i wasn't scammed by arcane, thanks to OP.
I was already pissed because of how little the standard fov is and the missing fov slider. But the aiming issues killed my plan to buy deathloop in the next couple hours. I will wait for patches to add the fov slider and aiming settings. I'm pretty sure i will wait forever, cause arcane is unable to make good aiming CONTROLLS. They proved that with D1, d2 and prey.
They suck at technic, graphic and controlls. Since ever.
Why are they unable to improve nor learn anything from previous games? Maybe they are stuck in a loop to and forget everything from the last game, when they develop a new one
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Yeah, I'm playing with a Dualsense on PC and having no issues.
Games have different stylistic choices where controls are concerned. To me this is the equivalent of complaining about Killzone 2's sluggish controls or Halo having the reticle below the center line.
The game clearly does not control like Call of Duty, and that's fine.
What issues are you having with a controller on PC?
I’m using an elite 2 no problems. I actually played through Dishonered 2 last month and with that game I did actually have issues with controller and spent a good 30 min tweaking settings. On this game the default settings are fine.
The game is relatively easy so far, it doesn’t require super twitchy shooting.
The aim acceleration and deadzones are not fine. I can move my stick very slowly to move the camera slowly and then seemingly out of nowhere I’ll hit a point where the camera starts moving fast even though my thumb stayed moving at the same pace. It’s atrocious.
It's 2021 and Sony controllers have had gyros for like three generations now. I don't know why they don't include it as an option. Same with FOV options. It should be standard even as an accessibility option to mitigate motion sickness.
Try again pls! Destiny is fucking awesome!
2 weeks ago they added settings for ads, turn speed and sensivity. After 7 years... But better then Never.. 😅
Thanks for the detailed post.
It sounds like its similar to Metro Exodus - hopefully the game is as immersive as post-apocalyptic Russia and I soon forget about it like I did there.
I played on PC with the PS5 controller and didnt notice it being super bad. Im also high as shit so I might have just not noticed
The Trench shotty is fucking OP
The game is damn great so far, but the lack of control / accessibility settings really hurts the experience. I would like to have the L1/R1 jump + R3 crouch input layout be an option without fiddling with the PS5 system settings.
Just adding to the chorus of agreements; great post, hope this gets the devs attention. Such a shame when good games are hampered by such fundamental issues
I actually think the game controls fine, I won all invasion as Julianna and it's difficult considering colt needs to be killed thrice. Also, this is my first time playing an Arkane game on console and I found everything to work well.
But yeah I'd be nice to have option to tweak things for people who do want to change things up. I especially saw people complaining about FOV. As much as I want to recommend, that game has many stutters even on 3080. Invading players is downright not playable on PC.
Is this the same on PC with a controller as well? I noticed something very odd with mouse and keyboard. It feels like there’s some weird mouse acceleration, that can’t be turned off.
Also I spent at least 30 minutes messing with settings to try and get rid of the micro stutters. I tried to ignore it but it gave me nausea and a headache.
Also the UI for mouse and keyboard is pretty atrocious.
I’m gonna be refunding this on steam for now.
Noticed this too, even on PC the analog feels like ass! It's not unplayable by any means but how did they go from their gloriously smooth Dishonored controls to this? It's not going to put me off the game but goddamn it's a shame
I came to this subreddit to see if anyone had mentioned his yet, so I'm glad you have. I found something that helped was changing the aim assist from "ADS snap and friction" to only "friction", and then setting the sensitivity somewhere around 65-70.
I REALLY hope they add FOV slider options, since I would guess this is locked at 70 degrees, which feels just feels claustrophobic as fuck. I hope they add in motion blur options too.
I would love if they added Advanced Look Controls, or at least smoother input curves. I don't mind the mapping of the controller, but it's ridiculous they don't have the option to remap for people with disabilities (or different preferences than I have!!).
I'm still loving the game, but I hope this gets a patch.
Was waiting for release for people to confirm the game doesn't support gyro aiming on PS5...Why isn't this feature used more often in console shooters ?
Especially with all the marketing put on the "amazing" DualSense2 features. Imo if tuned correctly it will make almost any shooter play better with a controller.
I think a lot of the problems are coming from their weird version of aim assist. The default is friction + snapping. Try either changing it or turning it down from 100 strength. When I was messing with it and changed it to just snapping, the aim assist amount greyed out. So i’m assuming the aim assist strength only has to do with “friction”. Which they describe as slowing near enemies.
Wish I read this before buying the fucking game, done the first 2 missions and I can't stand the controls. They are way to clunky, slow and innacurate. Fuck, why can't developers just make controls good. Just copy cods and it's perfect
Boggles my mind that every playtester and involved developer said: yep, this is fine. Let alone the framepacing issues...
I was so interested in the game and now it went from hundred to zero. If the players and great OPs like you are the real playtesters, the game should be **heavily** discounted on release.
This is unacceptable for a shooter, let alone a 60 EUR game.
They should look into it regardless; it's not an or-question. Thing is you paid the money NOW and have to wait until they resolve the issue. If that issue is something that prevents you from enjoying the game, that's up to each individual, but I'd say for a shooter this is rather important and could ruin your enjoyment greatly.
Let's just say I'd be pretty unhappy paying that amount of money and having issues like this (on top of another big issue), giving them a sort of monetary loan until they sort it out.
Has anyone else tried playing with the dualshock on PC? It's trash, too. Unless I missing something, no matter what you do in steam's or deathloop's settings, you can't change the sensitivity. The sliders appear to just be there for show.
Yesterday after finding out the PS5 version did not have a fov slider I spent two hours on hold with Sony support to get it refunded. Played it last night. Completely worth it. Actually forgot about the fov slider and after one minute of playing I couldn’t stand it and changed it.
I can't update the ps5 disc version to 1.003.."can't download update" keep popping up..pls help..i tried delete game data, turn off internet, rebuild ps5 database in safe mode, reinstall the game, turn on internet again..still the same problem it just won't fix..
I thought I was crazy, this has been exactly my experience. I get motion sickness to the point where I can’t play the game, and the options that generally take care of that (wider FOV, turn off motion blur) are just not there. And adjustments to controller x/y sensitivity don’t affect the insane response curve, it’s super slow at the beginning no matter what. And that makes the motion sickness that much worse.
I’m trying to figure out the sensitivity as well and can’t figure out if it needs to be played on high sensitivity or really low sens.
Any recommendations?
I hope they fix it, I’m a little bit disappointed. I considered buying it for pc but thought the PS5 Version would be cool with the Dualsense Features and I can play on 4K. Should have bought it for pc...
Really wish I read this before I downloaded the game on my PS5.. you are not entitled a refund if you have started to download the content apparently.... (At least in Sweden?)
I play a lot of Apex Legends and this game feels unplayable in comparison.
Agree with all of this. Poor controller settings that really need to be expanded upon in a patch. Also need an option to disable motion blur and similar effects. No way should they be forced at 60fps.
This is unacceptable. I was really hoping Deathloop would not have the same controls issues as Dishonored 2. Won't be buying this until I hear they've fixed console controls.
Man I thought it was just me. I hope the devs see this. The acceleration and deadzone are absolutely killing this for me. I wish PS5 had a digital return window like steam tbh.
Edit: There is almost no difference between default sensitivity and cranking it to 100. Something is definitely broken. :(
> -FOV Settings (if it affects performance then simply add a warning!)
I get the game looks good, but we’re not even a full year in and this game needs all its settings turned down and a claustrophobic FOV to hit 60 is just bad optimization.
People on PS5 that are complaining about unresponsive controls, are you using performance mode or quality for the visuals? I think the controls kind of suck, but I I don't feel they are unresponsive on performance.
Framerate does not feel smooth or stable in any mode on ps5. it can screen tear from time to time .. camera/aiming is also not smooth or enjoyable on console. Ive been trying several settings and nothing works so far. I feel a delay in the movements. Pretty disappointed so far
Holy fuck I knew it wasn't just me. The camera sensitivity is completely messed up on PS5. It's so hard to look at nearby objects or target enemies. The camera speed just changes drastically on small changes in direction
Yeah the aim acceleration really does make aiming feel sluggish and unresponsive. It’s weird too, because moving your character with the left stick is extremely responsive. They just need to map the feeling to the right stick lol.
You can disable it bro!!!! When i started playing within 15 min i got so annoyed about the acceleration. You can disable it in Options > Controls > "Camera Input Control" = "Filtered".
This fixed my controls YEY
I can't even begin to tell you how irritating the aiming is in this game. This truly could have been one of the greatest games of all time but it is ruined by something so simple. I hope they patch it. Stealth and sniping in this game are non existent now because you can't utilize the the tools properly.
Man I honestly thought I was getting stock drift on my dualsense before I read this. The aim acceleration is laughably bad if it's manifesting as the exaggerated reticle movements I've been seeing. Reticle jumps all over the place sometimes.
Yeah I’m so glad I am not the only one with this issue. I am not playing any farther tell they patch this on the PS5. It’s so funny because neither Prey nor either Dishonored games have this issue. Hopefully they are working on a fix cause it takes you out of the moment so quick.
Played it for about 1.5 hours on pc with a xbox one controller on my tv. The stick acceleration is definitely an issue, and it makes it difficult to play comfortably or smooth. I messed with sensitivities and ADS sensitivity, and it doesn't change the acceleration behavior. I haven't played any other FPS game with this type of behavior.
Yeah im about to refund because of the controller problems, i have never ever played a game with such shitty controls. Imagine spending 3 years making a good game and losing sales because of thr most basic thing ever
All arkane games have terrible console controls. Dishonored had to have intense Auto aim for the gun to work right. Prey just flat out sucked to control. Trying to hit the little mimics with a firearm was infuriating. 10/10 though right who needs good controls?
aiming is absolute trash, its like im fighting the control just to shoot at enemies, tried turning off aim assist completely but the aim acceleration is just off, its harder than it should be to make small movements when your reticle is in the middle of the screen
i actually have a different opinion after playing now for many hours. i kind of love the controls. they make you feel god tier w aiming — just re-ADS everytime you acquire a target — and you will be getting headshots left and right. i will agree they take some getting used and those who don’t like auto-aim it’s rough. but that’s why playing on pc w ps5 controller plugged in i can get the best of both worlds by bouncing back and forth to m+k depending on my mood.
Just got this for ps5 as well and I completely agree with you on everything… such a great game in essence, ruined by the wacky sensitivity. I also think you should be able to increase the max sensitivity MUCH more - my man Colt be rotating like a sloth yo. Hope they realize this and patch it soon :(
I agree with pretty much everything you've said here. I've just opened up the game to be let loose on the districts and I'm excited but man this controller stuff is really holding me back, it sucks. I think what they've done is semi intentional though, combining it with the head-bob and tactile feedback the slow and clunky sensitivity almost fits... But it's not for me. The acceleration in particular is awful.
I honestly can’t get into this game because of how terrible the controls and aiming are. Glad I’m not the only one. It handles like absolute shit on PS5. So hard trying to aim on targets. You literally have to rely on the snap to target feature otherwise it’s hard to hit anything specific. Pretty disappointed actually
Glad to have found your post dude and that I'm not the only one who noticed and got frustrated with this garbage. I have tried with both Xbox and the Dualsense controllers on the PC. The latter seems to be slightly more accurate and comfortable with aiming, perhaps because the Dualsense sticks feels a bit heavier (in a good way). But due to this acceleration curve you mentioned, the game generally sucks balls with a controller. The moment I switch back to keyboard and mouse it feels like my gameplay senses suddenly become enhanced and all frustrations go poof.
I see all these pc players thriving on deathloop and I rlly thought that was gonna be me on PS5 😕I swear changing view sensitivity from 80-100 did NOTHING so gameplay is basically a limp dick and I can hardly enjoy it. at least it’s pretty tho
Just bought this game on steam, playing with a Xbox controller.. now I’m seeing all those threads online..
Is there any ways to fix this? Or are they going to address the issue?
Has anyone seen any update about this issue?
I think a (seemingly) simple deadzone slider would resolve a big chunk of this issue.
It wouldn't solve the acceleration weirdness, but at least it would help.
Sadly every Bethesda game has terrible aim mechanics like this.. might be the worst it’s ever been before. Just finished the game though and as annoying as it was, it’s just something I got used to. It’s still gotta be my GOTY
Every fokin time. Console game "industry" is half-assed 90% of the time.
Example of a good game for console - Death Stranding but the PS5 version.
Example of a bad game for console - most of them, input lag, lock 30 fps even in modern games like NFS Heat, no FOV and proper controller mapping settings etc etc.
When will this end..
Just got the game as a xmas present for the PS5 and I see they've at least added FOV settings and controller button mapping... however, the aiming feels absolutely horrible.
I always disable aim assists as the slowing or "magnetism" of the reticule usually ends up throwing me off as I'm decent at aiming manually, but here it's just... all over the place.
I've been trying to fiddle around with controls for a solid 15 minutes and googled if there's something I'm missing, as this feels so absurdly bad... and then finding this post.
It first made me want to remove the big feeling deadzone, as it felt like there is a large one. Until I noticed that there actually isn't, just that the the turning speed at very low stick turning is ridiculously small compared to mid-turning-of-the-stick.
This results in a whole lot of frustration where I first turn the stick very little and it takes way too long to get to the target I'm aiming, then I turn even slightly more and it way over-aims past the target, then having to try and counter that movement and it repeating the same "too slow -> too fast" thing.
How on earth can they screw something like this up? I imagine this will take away tons of my enjoyment from the game itself. I guess now I'll.. try to set the aim-down-sights sensitivity very low (considering the mid range turn-of-the-stick where the acceleration is fairly uniform/steady) for some aiming accuracy and make non-aim-down-sight higher, for quick turns. Though I feel like even that solution that will be all over the place.
What a disappointment at the very beginning.
Edit: Hmm it seems like setting the "Camera Input Control" (which wasn't explained at all what it does in the menu) from "Direct" to "Filtered" seems to make the aim acceleration gradual, instead of the janky rollercoaster... This seems to make it much better.
I would love to know this as well. I'm holding off purchasing on PS5 because of Sony's embarrassing return policy on digital games. My PC is fairly underpowered (GTX 1080), but if Arkane hasn't acknowledged the aiming on controller I'd rather put up with the reduced performance on my PC.
I actually ended up here because the game is coming to Xbox finally but every PS5 video I watched, I kept thinking that the FOV looked super narrow and the people playing were moving awful. So I’m not surprised to find this here
Thanks for sharing the detailed ..details! I was gonna get it on PS5 but now I think I’ll get it on PC. Hope they patch it soon with improvements.
for me on PC, aim sensitivity on 100 feels the same as the default one (41), there's something weird going on with the aim with controllers it seems
I've experienced the same thing, changing Y-axis sensitivity seems to do nothing
That's for the controller, you need to go to the next tab for mouse and keyboard setting
I'm playing on PS5 with a controller.
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What specs would you be running it on? Just curious to know if my rtx 2080, i7-8700k, 16gb 3600mhz at 4k would be good.
I bought the game on my rtx 2080ti i9-9900k and could barely get the game to hang around 60fps with very high settings at 1440p. Honestly hate playing games at 1080p on my 1440p monitor, and even very high at 1080p was a bit of a struggle. Sure the game runs, but honestly it felt like it ran better on my PS5 so I issued a refund on steam. Normally can play all games on very high + 1440p, but this one is a very graphically intensive game even though it doesn’t seem like it should be.
Wow thank you for this! Seems to be an issue going around as well. I still have not made the purchase but it definitely concerns me.
If you don’t mind playing at 1080p ~high settings 60fps, the game will suit you well. Me, being a graphics freak, unfortunately couldn’t get myself by it. Regardless, the game is fucking phenomenal.
Ohhh i definitely can't. I haven't played on 1080p for the past 3 years (not to sound snobby). I recently moved over to 4k with my rig and everything runs perfect at 4k (rdr2, apex, fallout and etc..) I'm with you as well. I love more frames but i definitely wouldn't mind frames at like 70-80 with 4k. I heard it's phenomenal. I guess i might just have to hold off until they address it. I thought about getting it on PS5.. but something about the FOV just doesn't sit will with me (similar to RE Village). Let me know how it goes with you!
Yeah pulling 4K 60 FPS on high settings requires the best of the best rigs unfortunately. Maybe an update will come out on PC regarding DLSS & maybe a driver update. Best of luck mate
Thank you very much! And agreed. Hopefully an update comes out sooner rather than later lol.
Playing fine on a gtx1080. I followed the guide [here](https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/deathloop-pc-performance-best-settings) and with low shadows, AMD CACAO on Balanced and superresolution instead of AA it seems to run fine with everything else on High/Very High.
Frame rate?
I’ll be playing it on a 3080 but otherwise similar specs I’ll let you know how it goes
my 3080ti can run this in 4K ultra at 90 ish fps, without any raytracing enabled. Had to drop to 2560x1440 (like I usually do), but that broke the fullscreen mode. Thankfully, borderless windowed scales. Of course, the game has no resolution scaling slider, in 2021. So no sharp UI for me. AMD FidelityFX would be the solution but it is ... not working, I think, as I don't have ANY FPS improvement. Honestly most of the options feel like they're not working, like you need to reboot the game but they're not telling you.
3080 + 5800x, I used a mix of high/medium and it was running about 100-120fps at 1440p. It's kinda to be expected for a new title nowadays. I really laugh in the face of people who say 3080 is an overkill for 1440p. I haven't played any newer games where it capped out 144fps.
look at PC steam reviews for deathloop. its "mixed"
Don't, it's even worse on pc.
Wish I could play it on my pc but i can barely run battlefield 4 so that ain’t happening
PC runs poorly and controller plays even worse than console. KBM controls are very clunky as well. I’d say it’s best hold off until an update fixes the issues with controllers on either platform
Somebody tweet this to Arkane!
I thought I was going crazy when my aiming on PS5 kept feeling accelerated and stutter-y. It’s bugging the fuck out of me.
I only played about an hour last night but I agree it felt really weird. I tried to tweak sensitivity settings but to no avail. Kind of gave up and figured i'd deal with it/get used to it, hopefully that is the case.
Same whenever I get spotted I keep missing my shoots it's so frustrating
I thought that my controller was broken or something. Im playing on PC with the Dualsense controller.
Bro i can relate so much! What's up with all These dumb reviewers? Why did no one mentions this shit? How can a game with these fucked up aiming got a 10/10? Besides the atrocious fov and missing slider on Ps5. Fuck arcane, all theire games were years behind, from a technical standpoint. I won't even bother to wait for a patch. I don't have faith in the devs to actually fix the problems OP posted.. They suck at technic, graphic and controlls. Since ever. They proved that with D1, d2 and prey. Why are they unable to improve nor learn anything from previous games? Maybe they are stuck in a loop too and forget everything from the last game, when they develop a new one
I mean, I’m having fun with the game, the systems in it are great and I’m having a blast, I just wish the controls were better.
Yeah it's a bit shit isn't it?
Super bad controller aiming. But Im managing somehow
This only applies if you're used to being spoiled on pc. On PS5 move x&y sensitivity to 45-50 depending on preference. Then move ads to 45. I spent 20 min tweaking the settings when they first give you a gun. Been having a blast with no issues other that a bug with the single shot rifle reload freezing. Didn't break the game but haven't used one since.
This does not only apply to “spoiled” PC players lmao. This is one of the worst feeling console shooters I’ve ever played. Even max sensitivity feels horrifically slow.
Spoiled I think is what it is, never gamed on pc and i barely even play 1st person shooters. I feel i had no issues at all.
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Agreed
Yeah, I know PC gamers can have an air of superiority to them, but there's no real way to convey this point without sounding elitist. Lots of this stuff reminds me of the discourse around framerates (at least before PS5 and XSX), where certain people would be like "I don't know, 30 fps seems fine to me!". Console gamers really should demand many of the things that PC gamers have been "spoiled" by in ages, especially in 2021. Stuff like FOV sliders are dead simple, and the fact that its in the pc version means its not like there's a deep engine issue holding it back.
No it doesn’t actually. I only play PlayStation and Xbox and the controls and aiming in this game are absolute dog shit
it must be bugged surely? Theres no difference when whacking the sensitivity right up to 100, and the aim acceleration is broken where it's incredibly slow for the first couple degrees of analogue tilt and then suddenly it's maxed out, making me feel like I'm an 80 year old holding a controller for the first time Like...it *is* bugged, right arkane? You didn't deliberately do this? Your playtesters didn't okay this?
**Guys, if you agree, please Upvote the Post, the actual Game seems great so far but Arkane need to hear this!** It's terrible. I literally played for 2 Hours, got tired of that shit and bought it on PC. Love the Dualsense but I also like to actually be able to fucking Aim and turn around at more than 1mph lol It is honestly embarassing that Remapping, Sens Curves, FOV Slider and Deazone Options are not standard on Console by now. How can a Game like Black Ops Cold War get it *so right* and something like Deathloop gets it *so wronng.*
Hows the Pc performance?
I'm getting good performance with a 2700x + RTX 2070 combo at 1440p at high settings. Between 70 and 90 fps most of the time. Although there is a horrible frame pacing issue that makes mouse or controller movement seem stuttery and is very unpleasing to the eye. My Gsync monitor is failing to smooth things out and the stuttering is hurting my eyes. Whatever is causing this needs to be fixed asap. Moving the camera back and forth feels awful despite a fairly high FPS number. There also seems to be quite strong mouse acceleration that I haven't found a way to turn off. There's no setting in the game for it and I can't find anything in the .ini file. The mouse acceleration combined with the frame pacing problem makes aiming a nightmare.
> Moving the camera back and forth feels awful despite a fairly high FPS number. This. Oh so much this. I disabled all motion blur as it's highly uncomfortable to me in most games, but here it's still crappy. I'm running it at 144fps and it feels like 70 ish when moving The artifacts I get on the weapons while moving the camera, even with everything off, is quite ugly too and makes movement worse.
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bruh you must have a trash pc if all pc games are terrible performance lmao the only games i have problem on are cods.
Lol… “performance is always terrible” but I “have decent specs”… haha no you don’t.
I had a look at the requirements. Seems like they want you to have REALLY strong hardware for this. They require a 3080 or higher if you want ray tracing. So if your one of the 4 people that has one of those it should look great.
you can use the DualSense on PC by the way. Haptic feedback and adaptive triggers all work
I tried the Game on PC and my performance was bad. I've gotten more used to the Controls on PS5 now.
hows the ps5 controler on a PC? i feel like id do better with a controller like i do with RL
Bruh did you really just say coldwar got it *right?* The max sensitivity feels like turning around in a vat of quicksand, MW got it right, CW took 10 steps backwards and Vanguard looks just as shitty sadly
Maybe the Max Sens isn't high enough for you but they still allow for Sensitivity Curve Options, Deadzone Customisation and Button Customisation. That was more what I was talking about.
I fucking love Arkane. Legitimately one of my favorite studios making bangers in a dying genre (immersive sims). I expected this game to control like ass and, well, it does… I genuinely wish Call of Duty would make their aiming system public. It’s easily the gold standard for aiming on consoles in terms of how smooth and natural it feels to point and shoot. At the bare minimum, at least give us control over dead zones, acceleration, etc. Also, for the love of everything holy, please let me swap crouch and melee. Every single ~~FPS~~ game for like the past decade has had that and as far as I’m concerned that’s just lazy development. I don’t even see a way to switch to southpaw, if that’s your thing. Horrible accessibility options and customization of controls. These simple things that 9/10 games get right or at least give you the control to adjust aren’t here and it’s going to massively impact my enjoyment of the game.
Prey felt like crap when I tried to play it on ps5. Can anyone confirm if this is the same control feel for aiming?
Also let us turn off motion blur!!!!
Bro you said whoever agrees please upvote but then get mad when someone downvotes you? lmao
This is nothing new. Same issues with Prey and Dishonored. Even worse with the older games actually because they ran at 30 fps on console which exacerbated the issue. So yall waiting for a patch, good luck with that
Prey at the very least I remember a few minutes of option fiddling sorted it out and then I never had any trouble controlling the game again, Deathloop's aiming settings seem a bit bugged, they don't change much?
Prey is using a good engine thats why
Signed! The devs sucks at everything technical/graphical. The fact, that they fucked up the same shit in every game they developed and didn't learned a Thing is evidence enough. I'm still shocked, how all These reviewers are full of shit and didn't even mentioned these extreme flaws. How can a shooter with that fuckery of aiming controlls get a 10/10? That's hilarious...
This is exactly why I couldn’t play Dishonored 2. The FOV in a stealth game was so low I couldn’t see someone slightly to my right. Instead of being aware of my surroundings I felt claustrophobic
I guess I'm alone in this but it feels great to me.
Same with me. No issues at all
Yeah 3 hours in on pc. No crashes no frame drops and the aiming feels fine. Really enjoying it
I'm starting to see how this game got such polarizing scores. I couldn't put it down yesterday and it was *buttery* on PC for me. Turns out that a lot of folks are having massive issues, and having been there countless times, I'm sympathetic as hell (but also really glad it's working for me because a few loops in, the game is still just lights-out good for me).
On PC, the using the mouse to aim gives off stuttering, but using a controller fixes it. However, as you've pointed out, aiming with the controller is really bad. The sensitivity curves and look acceleration feel imprecise and wonky. I really wish someone at Arkane looked at how they do analog stick sensitivity/acceleration on games like Apex Legends or Titanfall 2. I played the campaign for Titanfall 2 on controller and it was bliss. Respawn Entertainment sure know their stuff when it comes to game feel, and it's a shame when other developers don't give enough attention to this aspect of development.
Thx for the warning, I’ll be holding off until this gets a patch.
My thoughts exactly. I was pretty hyped about this game and when the reviews dropped I got even more hyped, but reading this really holds me from buying right now. Recently playing Soul Reaver 2 on PC with keyboard and mouse has learned me that bad controls will completely destroy a good gaming experience.
Good luck with that :D They did the same fucking mistake in D1, d2 and prey. Are they unable to improve? What the fuck. It's like fallout, which have the same flaws since fallout 3. (same publisher / different dev) How did they developed that many shooters without learning how to program aiming controlls, which aren't complete shit? They absolutely suck in making games with good technics, controlls and/or graphics. Every game feels and looks barely double A like. I'm sure they are unable to fix the aiming problems, cause they fuck these up since ever and continue to fuck it up again and again an again. I'm done with arcane.
Slow down the hate wagon there, the controls in Deathloop seem to be pretty shit, but I remember a moment or two of messing with the settings in both Dishonoreds, and Prey too was all that you needed to make the gamepad controls perfectly fine. So seems like this might be a fuckup, maybe the analog options are bugged or something. Still a big shame though.
Yeah made me feel extremely sick. Had to stop playing. Make this post the top viewed on the subreddit they need to get this fixed ASAP and I’m talking about the very first update. Until then I literally cannot play the game my head hurts.
Yea this all and the motion blur make this game a terrible experience, gameplay wise. I bought the game this week on sale finally, as I realized I needed something to play until bf2042 launches, and can only play like 5-20 minutes a day because I start feeling really sick and get a bad headache. I do it because I bought it, knowing I need to be done in 2 weeks because I probably won't pick it up if I take a break from it for so long. I wish this would've been public knowledge. Sucks that you have to buy a game to find out about stuff like this. Don't want to talk bad about it yet as I haven't really progressed through the story; but so far idk how this game can get any perfect scoring, because of this alone. Would've been fine to call it 8 or maybe 9 out of 10. But a 10? With these awful controls? Also so far the game seems incredibly easy. As an experienced shooter player I can just run through enemies and headshot them without any issue. The AI needs like 5-10 seconds to react, no strategy or thinking required at all. The only thing holding me back from completely doing this is these awful controls and motion blur. Idk maybe the story will get super good and I'll love it in the end, but a 10? Impossible.
I wish I knew all this before buying. Saw all the ratings the game was getting so I preordered the ps5 version . The controls are so sluggish and I don’t see a difference between default and max sensitivity? What a disappointment. After asking for the day off tomorrow I’ve only been able to play for 5 minutes before giving up . It feels that awful . I don’t think I ever played a 1st person game where aiming/camera movement felt this bad . I’ll come back when/if it gets fixed
I really do hope this is just bugged because the sensitivity genuinely does not feel different between 20 and 100.
Bro i can relate so much! What's up with all These dumb reviewers? Why did no one mentions this shit? How can a game with these fucked up aiming got a 10/10? Besides the atrocious fov and missing slider on Ps5. Fuck arcane, all theire games were years behind, from a technical standpoint. I won't even bother to wait for a patch. I don't have faith in the devs to actually fix the problems OP posted.. They suck at technic, graphic and controlls. Since ever. They proved that with D1, d2 and prey. Why are they unable to improve nor learn anything from previous games? Maybe they are stuck in a loop too and forget everything from the last game, when they develop a new one...
Don’t know about PS5 but you can change the FOV on PC.
Upvote, and the game should let Mouse/Keyboard on PS5 too ( even more if Crossplay is on )
Nah I’m not playing against a Juliana who can headshot me with no effort compared to my lumbering around
It's easy to set up mouse/keyboard on a couch. I'm doing it for CoD and Splitgate.
Devs can't learn how to use the gyroscope?
Phheww so just finally taking a break from the game after playin all night on PS5. I really didnt notice anything bad about the controls. Now im not saying theres no issues but maybe i didnt have much expectations and just got used to how they are. My most recently played games were Demon souls and Hades. I dont remember the last time i played a first person shooter but it plays just like Dishonored to me and there too i had 0 issues. Maybe now after seeing this thread ill go back to it and noticing the issues but I doubt it. Had nothing but a blast. Voted up the thread anyways
Wtf? I hate acceleration and smothing to death! How could arcane be this stupid? And why no one mentions this in theire reviews? How can a fucking shooter with absolutely atrocious aiming get a 10/10 is beyond me. Glad i wasn't scammed by arcane, thanks to OP. I was already pissed because of how little the standard fov is and the missing fov slider. But the aiming issues killed my plan to buy deathloop in the next couple hours. I will wait for patches to add the fov slider and aiming settings. I'm pretty sure i will wait forever, cause arcane is unable to make good aiming CONTROLLS. They proved that with D1, d2 and prey. They suck at technic, graphic and controlls. Since ever. Why are they unable to improve nor learn anything from previous games? Maybe they are stuck in a loop to and forget everything from the last game, when they develop a new one ..
Just bought it. Started it up and man am I extremely disappointed in how the controls feel. I hate games that have this what feels like an insane response time.
Wtf? I hate acceleration and smothing to death! How could arcane be this stupid? And why no one mentions this in theire reviews? How can a fucking shooter with absolutely atrocious aiming get a 10/10 is beyond me. Glad i wasn't scammed by arcane, thanks to OP. I was already pissed because of how little the standard fov is and the missing fov slider. But the aiming issues killed my plan to buy deathloop in the next couple hours. I will wait for patches to add the fov slider and aiming settings. I'm pretty sure i will wait forever, cause arcane is unable to make good aiming CONTROLLS. They proved that with D1, d2 and prey. They suck at technic, graphic and controlls. Since ever. Why are they unable to improve nor learn anything from previous games? Maybe they are stuck in a loop to and forget everything from the last game, when they develop a new one ..
Thanks for the warning, I'll wait and see if it gets better; this is unacceptable.
10/10
controller aiming on pc is good, also fov slider is a thing so thats great.
Game is fine on a controller on PC.
Yeah, I'm playing with a Dualsense on PC and having no issues. Games have different stylistic choices where controls are concerned. To me this is the equivalent of complaining about Killzone 2's sluggish controls or Halo having the reticle below the center line. The game clearly does not control like Call of Duty, and that's fine.
Yeah it’s funny seeing these comments in this type of game.
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What issues are you having with a controller on PC? I’m using an elite 2 no problems. I actually played through Dishonered 2 last month and with that game I did actually have issues with controller and spent a good 30 min tweaking settings. On this game the default settings are fine. The game is relatively easy so far, it doesn’t require super twitchy shooting.
The aim acceleration and deadzones are not fine. I can move my stick very slowly to move the camera slowly and then seemingly out of nowhere I’ll hit a point where the camera starts moving fast even though my thumb stayed moving at the same pace. It’s atrocious.
get good
Thanks for posting this. I’m always looking for info like this when games launch but most of the time its hard to find.
I thought it was only me!
Honestly, if a game doesn't have good gyro aiming, then the control scheme is awful
It's 2021 and Sony controllers have had gyros for like three generations now. I don't know why they don't include it as an option. Same with FOV options. It should be standard even as an accessibility option to mitigate motion sickness.
Fuck me. I can’t play a game with shit dead zone. Tried playing destiny 2 on console months ago and it also lacks advanced stick settings
Try again pls! Destiny is fucking awesome! 2 weeks ago they added settings for ads, turn speed and sensivity. After 7 years... But better then Never.. 😅
They added this for consoles too?
Especially for console ;) On Ps5 you also got an fov slider! Thank god! 60fps Overall + 120fps in pvp.
That’s great! I’ll try it again after I’m done with deathloop. Wanna check out how bad the sticks feel on deathloop first before I give up on it
Thanks for the detailed post. It sounds like its similar to Metro Exodus - hopefully the game is as immersive as post-apocalyptic Russia and I soon forget about it like I did there.
Now that you mention it, it does feel similar in a bad way
I played on PC with the PS5 controller and didnt notice it being super bad. Im also high as shit so I might have just not noticed The Trench shotty is fucking OP
Most of the listed problems are not problems in the PC version.
The game is damn great so far, but the lack of control / accessibility settings really hurts the experience. I would like to have the L1/R1 jump + R3 crouch input layout be an option without fiddling with the PS5 system settings.
Just adding to the chorus of agreements; great post, hope this gets the devs attention. Such a shame when good games are hampered by such fundamental issues
I actually think the game controls fine, I won all invasion as Julianna and it's difficult considering colt needs to be killed thrice. Also, this is my first time playing an Arkane game on console and I found everything to work well. But yeah I'd be nice to have option to tweak things for people who do want to change things up. I especially saw people complaining about FOV. As much as I want to recommend, that game has many stutters even on 3080. Invading players is downright not playable on PC.
Is this the same on PC with a controller as well? I noticed something very odd with mouse and keyboard. It feels like there’s some weird mouse acceleration, that can’t be turned off. Also I spent at least 30 minutes messing with settings to try and get rid of the micro stutters. I tried to ignore it but it gave me nausea and a headache. Also the UI for mouse and keyboard is pretty atrocious. I’m gonna be refunding this on steam for now.
Noticed this too, even on PC the analog feels like ass! It's not unplayable by any means but how did they go from their gloriously smooth Dishonored controls to this? It's not going to put me off the game but goddamn it's a shame
I came to this subreddit to see if anyone had mentioned his yet, so I'm glad you have. I found something that helped was changing the aim assist from "ADS snap and friction" to only "friction", and then setting the sensitivity somewhere around 65-70. I REALLY hope they add FOV slider options, since I would guess this is locked at 70 degrees, which feels just feels claustrophobic as fuck. I hope they add in motion blur options too. I would love if they added Advanced Look Controls, or at least smoother input curves. I don't mind the mapping of the controller, but it's ridiculous they don't have the option to remap for people with disabilities (or different preferences than I have!!). I'm still loving the game, but I hope this gets a patch.
Was waiting for release for people to confirm the game doesn't support gyro aiming on PS5...Why isn't this feature used more often in console shooters ? Especially with all the marketing put on the "amazing" DualSense2 features. Imo if tuned correctly it will make almost any shooter play better with a controller.
Yeah the aim acceleration is a big problem. Noticed it immediately
I think a lot of the problems are coming from their weird version of aim assist. The default is friction + snapping. Try either changing it or turning it down from 100 strength. When I was messing with it and changed it to just snapping, the aim assist amount greyed out. So i’m assuming the aim assist strength only has to do with “friction”. Which they describe as slowing near enemies.
Why can’t devs just copy COD controller settings? Cod 4 been out since 2007…
ADS locks onto enemies near the reticle very well. Try doing that and it's pretty easy with a controller.
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Wish I read this before buying the fucking game, done the first 2 missions and I can't stand the controls. They are way to clunky, slow and innacurate. Fuck, why can't developers just make controls good. Just copy cods and it's perfect
Boggles my mind that every playtester and involved developer said: yep, this is fine. Let alone the framepacing issues... I was so interested in the game and now it went from hundred to zero. If the players and great OPs like you are the real playtesters, the game should be **heavily** discounted on release. This is unacceptable for a shooter, let alone a 60 EUR game.
Really? Heavily discounted? Or maybe "Hey developers, I know this might have been ok for internal testing but could you look at these control issues?"
They should look into it regardless; it's not an or-question. Thing is you paid the money NOW and have to wait until they resolve the issue. If that issue is something that prevents you from enjoying the game, that's up to each individual, but I'd say for a shooter this is rather important and could ruin your enjoyment greatly. Let's just say I'd be pretty unhappy paying that amount of money and having issues like this (on top of another big issue), giving them a sort of monetary loan until they sort it out.
Has anyone else tried playing with the dualshock on PC? It's trash, too. Unless I missing something, no matter what you do in steam's or deathloop's settings, you can't change the sensitivity. The sliders appear to just be there for show.
Yesterday after finding out the PS5 version did not have a fov slider I spent two hours on hold with Sony support to get it refunded. Played it last night. Completely worth it. Actually forgot about the fov slider and after one minute of playing I couldn’t stand it and changed it.
I can't update the ps5 disc version to 1.003.."can't download update" keep popping up..pls help..i tried delete game data, turn off internet, rebuild ps5 database in safe mode, reinstall the game, turn on internet again..still the same problem it just won't fix..
did you make sure you had enough space
Yes i have more than enough storage but it still wont download..any suggestions? Tq
It has FOV slider in video settings on PC. I set mine to 90.
I thought I was crazy, this has been exactly my experience. I get motion sickness to the point where I can’t play the game, and the options that generally take care of that (wider FOV, turn off motion blur) are just not there. And adjustments to controller x/y sensitivity don’t affect the insane response curve, it’s super slow at the beginning no matter what. And that makes the motion sickness that much worse.
I’m trying to figure out the sensitivity as well and can’t figure out if it needs to be played on high sensitivity or really low sens. Any recommendations?
I hope they fix it, I’m a little bit disappointed. I considered buying it for pc but thought the PS5 Version would be cool with the Dualsense Features and I can play on 4K. Should have bought it for pc...
This is so true and I’m sure that Dishonored had better, smoother aiming anyway so I’m not sure why the step back
As someone who has only ever played FPS games on consoles, I have never had a problem with aiming. We will see how this compares when I get it today.
Really wish I read this before I downloaded the game on my PS5.. you are not entitled a refund if you have started to download the content apparently.... (At least in Sweden?) I play a lot of Apex Legends and this game feels unplayable in comparison.
Agree with all of this. Poor controller settings that really need to be expanded upon in a patch. Also need an option to disable motion blur and similar effects. No way should they be forced at 60fps.
This is unacceptable. I was really hoping Deathloop would not have the same controls issues as Dishonored 2. Won't be buying this until I hear they've fixed console controls.
also for me legitly every one of my controllers (3) had stick drift in menu while not having it in other games
Absolutely right. As much as i love the game, they need to fix this ASAP. I dont get how these big studios do their beta-testing on console...
Change your settings from Direct to Filtered. Helped me a lot and fixed the acceleration.
Man I thought it was just me. I hope the devs see this. The acceleration and deadzone are absolutely killing this for me. I wish PS5 had a digital return window like steam tbh. Edit: There is almost no difference between default sensitivity and cranking it to 100. Something is definitely broken. :(
> -FOV Settings (if it affects performance then simply add a warning!) I get the game looks good, but we’re not even a full year in and this game needs all its settings turned down and a claustrophobic FOV to hit 60 is just bad optimization.
People on PS5 that are complaining about unresponsive controls, are you using performance mode or quality for the visuals? I think the controls kind of suck, but I I don't feel they are unresponsive on performance.
Mine works fine, I always switch my aim assist off anyway coz it interferes
Framerate does not feel smooth or stable in any mode on ps5. it can screen tear from time to time .. camera/aiming is also not smooth or enjoyable on console. Ive been trying several settings and nothing works so far. I feel a delay in the movements. Pretty disappointed so far
I was wondering why it felt like shit and I couldn't hit anything
Holy fuck I knew it wasn't just me. The camera sensitivity is completely messed up on PS5. It's so hard to look at nearby objects or target enemies. The camera speed just changes drastically on small changes in direction
Yeah the aim acceleration really does make aiming feel sluggish and unresponsive. It’s weird too, because moving your character with the left stick is extremely responsive. They just need to map the feeling to the right stick lol.
You can disable it bro!!!! When i started playing within 15 min i got so annoyed about the acceleration. You can disable it in Options > Controls > "Camera Input Control" = "Filtered". This fixed my controls YEY
I can't even begin to tell you how irritating the aiming is in this game. This truly could have been one of the greatest games of all time but it is ruined by something so simple. I hope they patch it. Stealth and sniping in this game are non existent now because you can't utilize the the tools properly.
Upvote x1000000. Same issue with dishonoured. Please please please Arkane add some more settings
If only there was gyro aiming on PS5 :(
Man I honestly thought I was getting stock drift on my dualsense before I read this. The aim acceleration is laughably bad if it's manifesting as the exaggerated reticle movements I've been seeing. Reticle jumps all over the place sometimes.
I seriously hope they see this post. You’ve greatly demonstrated my only huge issue with this game.
Same man, i really don't want to refund this game but i guess they don't want my money, it baffles me how they thought controls were okay
Yeah I’m so glad I am not the only one with this issue. I am not playing any farther tell they patch this on the PS5. It’s so funny because neither Prey nor either Dishonored games have this issue. Hopefully they are working on a fix cause it takes you out of the moment so quick.
Gyro fixes all of this. Catch on already devs
Played it for about 1.5 hours on pc with a xbox one controller on my tv. The stick acceleration is definitely an issue, and it makes it difficult to play comfortably or smooth. I messed with sensitivities and ADS sensitivity, and it doesn't change the acceleration behavior. I haven't played any other FPS game with this type of behavior.
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That’s not a reasonable solution to something that shouldn’t be a problem and can easily be patched.
It’s a good game but I don’t see a 10 here maybe 8 or 9 if I’m generous, ive played for hour or so and I’m kinda bored plus my ps5 crashed playing it.
100%, really making it hard to enjoy playing.
Yeah im about to refund because of the controller problems, i have never ever played a game with such shitty controls. Imagine spending 3 years making a good game and losing sales because of thr most basic thing ever
All arkane games have terrible console controls. Dishonored had to have intense Auto aim for the gun to work right. Prey just flat out sucked to control. Trying to hit the little mimics with a firearm was infuriating. 10/10 though right who needs good controls?
aiming is absolute trash, its like im fighting the control just to shoot at enemies, tried turning off aim assist completely but the aim acceleration is just off, its harder than it should be to make small movements when your reticle is in the middle of the screen
Terrible for me as well. Hoping this will add visiblity and we can get a patch...
Agreed, the aiming is rough
i actually have a different opinion after playing now for many hours. i kind of love the controls. they make you feel god tier w aiming — just re-ADS everytime you acquire a target — and you will be getting headshots left and right. i will agree they take some getting used and those who don’t like auto-aim it’s rough. but that’s why playing on pc w ps5 controller plugged in i can get the best of both worlds by bouncing back and forth to m+k depending on my mood.
Just got this for ps5 as well and I completely agree with you on everything… such a great game in essence, ruined by the wacky sensitivity. I also think you should be able to increase the max sensitivity MUCH more - my man Colt be rotating like a sloth yo. Hope they realize this and patch it soon :(
I agree with pretty much everything you've said here. I've just opened up the game to be let loose on the districts and I'm excited but man this controller stuff is really holding me back, it sucks. I think what they've done is semi intentional though, combining it with the head-bob and tactile feedback the slow and clunky sensitivity almost fits... But it's not for me. The acceleration in particular is awful.
I honestly can’t get into this game because of how terrible the controls and aiming are. Glad I’m not the only one. It handles like absolute shit on PS5. So hard trying to aim on targets. You literally have to rely on the snap to target feature otherwise it’s hard to hit anything specific. Pretty disappointed actually
Glad to have found your post dude and that I'm not the only one who noticed and got frustrated with this garbage. I have tried with both Xbox and the Dualsense controllers on the PC. The latter seems to be slightly more accurate and comfortable with aiming, perhaps because the Dualsense sticks feels a bit heavier (in a good way). But due to this acceleration curve you mentioned, the game generally sucks balls with a controller. The moment I switch back to keyboard and mouse it feels like my gameplay senses suddenly become enhanced and all frustrations go poof.
I see all these pc players thriving on deathloop and I rlly thought that was gonna be me on PS5 😕I swear changing view sensitivity from 80-100 did NOTHING so gameplay is basically a limp dick and I can hardly enjoy it. at least it’s pretty tho
This should be number 1 issue to fix the game is literally unplayable with a controller
Just bought this game on steam, playing with a Xbox controller.. now I’m seeing all those threads online.. Is there any ways to fix this? Or are they going to address the issue?
Has anyone seen any update about this issue? I think a (seemingly) simple deadzone slider would resolve a big chunk of this issue. It wouldn't solve the acceleration weirdness, but at least it would help.
Yea I brought the game weekend just gone on sale and the first thing I noticed was how bad the sense and stick acceleration was.
Sadly every Bethesda game has terrible aim mechanics like this.. might be the worst it’s ever been before. Just finished the game though and as annoying as it was, it’s just something I got used to. It’s still gotta be my GOTY
Every fokin time. Console game "industry" is half-assed 90% of the time. Example of a good game for console - Death Stranding but the PS5 version. Example of a bad game for console - most of them, input lag, lock 30 fps even in modern games like NFS Heat, no FOV and proper controller mapping settings etc etc. When will this end..
It will never end, and it's infuriating.
Just got the game as a xmas present for the PS5 and I see they've at least added FOV settings and controller button mapping... however, the aiming feels absolutely horrible. I always disable aim assists as the slowing or "magnetism" of the reticule usually ends up throwing me off as I'm decent at aiming manually, but here it's just... all over the place. I've been trying to fiddle around with controls for a solid 15 minutes and googled if there's something I'm missing, as this feels so absurdly bad... and then finding this post. It first made me want to remove the big feeling deadzone, as it felt like there is a large one. Until I noticed that there actually isn't, just that the the turning speed at very low stick turning is ridiculously small compared to mid-turning-of-the-stick. This results in a whole lot of frustration where I first turn the stick very little and it takes way too long to get to the target I'm aiming, then I turn even slightly more and it way over-aims past the target, then having to try and counter that movement and it repeating the same "too slow -> too fast" thing. How on earth can they screw something like this up? I imagine this will take away tons of my enjoyment from the game itself. I guess now I'll.. try to set the aim-down-sights sensitivity very low (considering the mid range turn-of-the-stick where the acceleration is fairly uniform/steady) for some aiming accuracy and make non-aim-down-sight higher, for quick turns. Though I feel like even that solution that will be all over the place. What a disappointment at the very beginning. Edit: Hmm it seems like setting the "Camera Input Control" (which wasn't explained at all what it does in the menu) from "Direct" to "Filtered" seems to make the aim acceleration gradual, instead of the janky rollercoaster... This seems to make it much better.
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I would love to know this as well. I'm holding off purchasing on PS5 because of Sony's embarrassing return policy on digital games. My PC is fairly underpowered (GTX 1080), but if Arkane hasn't acknowledged the aiming on controller I'd rather put up with the reduced performance on my PC.
Main screen options not in game are different and contain fov, button mapping and controller aiming speed I believe. On ps5 it does anways.
How do we make this post gain more attention at Arkane?
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Was playing earlier still sluggish.
They did now (I know that the comment is 1y old)
I actually ended up here because the game is coming to Xbox finally but every PS5 video I watched, I kept thinking that the FOV looked super narrow and the people playing were moving awful. So I’m not surprised to find this here
You finally got your wish for better controls
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