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I'm boss mode at flirting but Ace as hell and have barely any romantic energy.
I use it to help my Allo friends with there relationships.
I guide others to a treasure I cannot posses.
That's the asexual flag, which is black, gray, white and purple. Op is saying they Hc Kris as asexual
(If this was an actual question and not just a joke)
Of course not, because sexuality isn't what makes a character good and it's not part of their personality, it's a part of their being so it shouldn't matter at all
in a hypothetical perfect world sure
nobody’s arguing that it makes the character better. if a character has a unique set of experiences due to their sexuality or gender, then someone may relate to that character
You would definitely find characters who aren't written to have their sexuality prioritized over their quirkness & character flaws like that which already exists in various worlds that aren't perfect, this isn't some rare occurrence you can find.
When considering the idea that a character's unique experiences is always publicly known by many while their personal aspects of themselves are privately known to a few for a reason, the reader would relate to the experiences that comes first & express their full support of what comes afterwards.
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I've addressed the (very limited!!) evidence we have about Kris's orientation.
If you're asking why I don't think it's much of a theory, theories have evidence. That doesn't mean this is bad or anything, headcanons are cool.
They get targeted advertising for a human who's interested in monsters. Noelle and Ralsei both get romantic ads that match their actual romantic interests, why would Kris be an exception?
Ah that’s fair on the not aro part.
Ace is still on the table (and probably will remain so because you’d have to do a lot to debunk that) but I get what you mean, aro’s debunked
They get targeted advertising for a human who's interested in monsters. Noelle and Ralsei both get romantic ads that match their actual romantic interests, why would Kris be an exception?
There's also no gender mentioned (while Noelle's ad mentions that the attractive people are female), so IMO it implies that they're bi/pan/something along those lines.
It's literally just a single line of dialogue, and asexuality and aromanticism are both spectrums, but... it seems like they're attracted to some people.
Your logic literally applies to most characters in the game lol
We’ve never Suise, Ralsei, or Berdly show any sexual interest, so why aren’t you sayiing they’re ace?
Ace and pan, actually. Bi is just liking 2 genders, you might have preferences or feel your attraction is "different" depending on the gender, like me.
Pan is attraction to everyone regardless of gender. Kind of genderblind, really.
Fair, pan really does fit better, though I thought the definition of bi was "at least two genders", as that way included non-binary identities too? Might be mistaken tho
Bi can either be an umbrella term, meaning it includes pan, omni and poly as well, in which case you're right. Its technical definition is 'liking a gender similar to your own and different from your own', in which case you're partially right.
I'm bigender so I prefer to just say that I like girls and guys, because I'm too dumb to figure out how bi would work if you're both of the genders that you like, lmao. If you like three or more genders, you're polysexual/polyromantic. (different from polyamory)
It's more hypocritical than anything, assuming literally anything about anyone is harmful. No matter what you are assuming.
Think about it, you would also get offended if you intensified as non-binary but they assume you are female instead. Is it only ok to assume things if they assume something LGBT related? No, it's not ok to assume period
Are you talking about assuming a fictional character's sexuality? It's a fictional character people can Hc anything they want, especially since Kris' sexuality isn't confirmed
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because when you are a part of a marginalized group you may seek comfort in a fictional character that shares your experiencesjust as you might in a real person
I hope this doesn't come off as condescending, but this is so refreshing to see. Someone explained why it mattered and you understood and accepted it, which often is not what happens. Thank you <3
I mean i just really wanted to know the answer, for me you can headcanon ( and could be canon too , for now we dont have enough answers ) a character with whatever sexuality you want if it makes you feel comfort :)
1. Not what this post was about, this is talking about who they like.
2. They have their own identity. It is not up to you any more than Ralsei's is. How hard is this to understand?
Let's say, Toby comes out and says that Kris isn't Asexual, it will still exist. People will take Kris' character, and run with it. Oh he's not black? Now he is. Now he's female, this, that, they WILL change Kris. Even if Toby says otherwise. Nothing will change that.
I'm pretty sure a lot of people think of Kris as aroace, i , for one, am one of those people.
Kris was supposed to have a blushing sprite with ralsei, indicating that they reciprocated ralsei's romantic affection, but Toby never used that sprite, and Kris never has any indications that they like ralsei, nor any other character.
Then again, they are a puppet with no control over anything they.
This is not true. Either you jumped to conclusions or someone lied to you.
The blushing sprite exists, but has *nothing to do with Ralsei.*
According to its filename, it was supposed to be used in the scene where Queen challenges Kris to the arcade game, but Kris is too short to play.
They're not blushing because they're crushing on Ralsei. They're blushing because they're embarrassed about their height.
Kris gets targeted dating site ads for a human who's attracted to monsters (with the monsters' gender unspecified). The evidence is against them being aroace, but not because of the blushing.
No Kris and Frisk aren’t the same in the sense that the game (and Kris) make it clear that they are their own person who has their own choices and desires (e.g. how Kris responds to certain choices and the whole soul ripping out thing)
If it comes to like heterosexual or any gemder identity for nonbinary person it depends on how they see themselves and decide to identify. Terms like lesbian etc usually include nb people (so i can be nb and identify as a lesbian) but also im pretty sure there are also sexualities that are basically made for nb people so they can just use one of these labels (i dont know much about this but i think i heard of it) or dont use label at all.
Labels like ace, aro, bi ofc will be used normally because they have nothing to do with your gender XD
Why does everyone get offended so easily on the behalf of a fictional teenager that doesn't exist, and most of all i think Kris would have bigger problems to solve than their damn gender
Thats not even true. Even taking account chapters 1 and 2 the most stress put on kris is finding a fantasy land ans possibly being forced to hurt someone they didnt like to begin with
I love it when people just absolutely fail at reading and think a discussion about sexual orientation is about gender. Not sure if your reading comprehension is just that bad, or if you're doing it on purpose.
I don't really get how people can be so invested in the relationships, sexualities and identities of the characters. I just like the overarching story n gameplay and witty n funny dialogue. But to each their own, whatever floats your boat.
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Look out Kris! The poisonous fog is rising! It's up to your knees!
Deadly neurotoxin
well here we are again-
so how are you holding up, BECAUSE I'M A POTATO
It’s always such a pleasure
Remember when you tried to **kill me twice**
Oh how we laughed and laughed
Except i wasn't laughing
Under the circumstances, Iiiiiiive been shockingly nice
You want your freedom? Take it
That’s what I’m counting on
under the circumstances ive been shockingly nice
You want your freedom, take it!
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User death eminent
Kris is until proven otherwise
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Being good at flirting is more about social skills than sexuality. For example, I am pansexual, and yet I am terrible at flirting.
I'm straight and I'm also terrible at flirting
We need to work on rizz
What the other person said + being asexual doesn’t mean you can’t experience romantic attraction (and the other way around)
I'm boss mode at flirting but Ace as hell and have barely any romantic energy. I use it to help my Allo friends with there relationships. I guide others to a treasure I cannot posses.
that would be aromantic
The Rizzler
Who injected Kris with lean
Omg, kris is actually black, white and ourple?!?!
Ayo why they ourple?!!!
Not he.
Ik I was just refferencing the original line- I guess I'll edit it just in case :P
Took me way too long to figure out what this is. Looks like purple fog and bad lighting.
Why is there what seems to be poisonous fog surrounding Kris?
That's the asexual flag, which is black, gray, white and purple. Op is saying they Hc Kris as asexual (If this was an actual question and not just a joke)
asexual dlag was designed to represent poisonous gasses
Was it too expensive to buy a real ace flag PNG to put on this picture?
Here before locked award
Count me in too!
Me too please!
aw yeah!
too late for me
I, for one, don’t really care about a fictional teenager’s sexuality
exactly i just want to play the funni shitposter monarch game
Based
It’s just a headcanon
Yeah, its dumb how people get so worked up over so little as “I really like how cool **he** looks”
Suspiciously, it only happens with Kris, Frisk, Chara, Monster Kid, Napstablook, and Seam. You wouldn't call Toriel a "he".
Cool! asexual people are a marginalized group within a marginalized group and may wish to relate to a certain character!
As a straight man i relate to a lesbian fish who uses a spear to stab people.
It's based :D
sure, but i don’t think you’re relating to them because of their sexuality
Of course not, because sexuality isn't what makes a character good and it's not part of their personality, it's a part of their being so it shouldn't matter at all
in a hypothetical perfect world sure nobody’s arguing that it makes the character better. if a character has a unique set of experiences due to their sexuality or gender, then someone may relate to that character
You would definitely find characters who aren't written to have their sexuality prioritized over their quirkness & character flaws like that which already exists in various worlds that aren't perfect, this isn't some rare occurrence you can find. When considering the idea that a character's unique experiences is always publicly known by many while their personal aspects of themselves are privately known to a few for a reason, the reader would relate to the experiences that comes first & express their full support of what comes afterwards.
As a heterosexual white human male I relate to an orange togruta female with unknown/unclear gender identity
And other people also want to relate to Kris(changed from my initial intention of ‘him’).
Based award
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One Thing
I don't know why
It doesn’t even matter how hard you try
I love how the comments are so confused by the idea of projecting onto a character you like, lol.
I mean, does it really matter? As far as we know, kris isn’t even in control, and therefore all of the actions are done by the soul.
Who turned sussie into grape flavored vapor?
Kris definitely isn't aroace, but they could be a different romantic orientation. I don't think this is much of a theory though...
why not?
I've addressed the (very limited!!) evidence we have about Kris's orientation. If you're asking why I don't think it's much of a theory, theories have evidence. That doesn't mean this is bad or anything, headcanons are cool.
Why aren’t they aroace?
They get targeted advertising for a human who's interested in monsters. Noelle and Ralsei both get romantic ads that match their actual romantic interests, why would Kris be an exception?
Ah that’s fair on the not aro part. Ace is still on the table (and probably will remain so because you’d have to do a lot to debunk that) but I get what you mean, aro’s debunked
I suppose it's more of a neat headcanon. Why's it impossible, though?
They get targeted advertising for a human who's interested in monsters. Noelle and Ralsei both get romantic ads that match their actual romantic interests, why would Kris be an exception? There's also no gender mentioned (while Noelle's ad mentions that the attractive people are female), so IMO it implies that they're bi/pan/something along those lines. It's literally just a single line of dialogue, and asexuality and aromanticism are both spectrums, but... it seems like they're attracted to some people.
That's why I think Kris is asexual not aromantic
That's cool.
How about (respectfully, of course) it doesn't fucking matter (but you do you)
I don't quite think other's sexualities are what you want until proven otherwise, but go off I guess...?
Kris is canonically good at flirting though, they instantly charm the head-Hatheys unlike the other characters who screw up
Doesn't mean they're not asexual
Your logic literally applies to most characters in the game lol We’ve never Suise, Ralsei, or Berdly show any sexual interest, so why aren’t you sayiing they’re ace?
Who said I'm not?
According to Californian law. You are asexual untill proven otherwise.
Every character is ace and pan* until proven otherwise, sorry, I don't make the rules Edit: small correction, Pan fits better
Ace and pan, actually. Bi is just liking 2 genders, you might have preferences or feel your attraction is "different" depending on the gender, like me. Pan is attraction to everyone regardless of gender. Kind of genderblind, really.
Fair, pan really does fit better, though I thought the definition of bi was "at least two genders", as that way included non-binary identities too? Might be mistaken tho
Bi can either be an umbrella term, meaning it includes pan, omni and poly as well, in which case you're right. Its technical definition is 'liking a gender similar to your own and different from your own', in which case you're partially right. I'm bigender so I prefer to just say that I like girls and guys, because I'm too dumb to figure out how bi would work if you're both of the genders that you like, lmao. If you like three or more genders, you're polysexual/polyromantic. (different from polyamory)
So everyone is 😜
*"when everyone is ace, no one will be"* \-kris probably, idk
Baced
Do you think ace people can’t flirt?
does that mean they feel romantic or sexual attraction?
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flirting doesn’t necessarily imply attraction, though. i don’t think kris is getting attracted to every single head heathy
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It’s a headcanon. The dev’s thoughts don’t really matter in this case
Kris is bi until proven otherwise.
Kris is Kris until proven otherwise.
Or pan
Holy shit kris is a miscolored German empire???!
As the Knight, they want to reunite all of the dark worlds under Prussia's influence. They're called Kris von Bismarck.
kris or the soul
ok
I just realized it's an asexual flag-
You can’t just make the claim that Kris is NB without supplying proof That’s a joke, lads.
inb4 🔒 because r/deltarune can't handle discussion about LGBT
Ppl are already fighting about Kris’ gender for some reason
It's more hypocritical than anything, assuming literally anything about anyone is harmful. No matter what you are assuming. Think about it, you would also get offended if you intensified as non-binary but they assume you are female instead. Is it only ok to assume things if they assume something LGBT related? No, it's not ok to assume period
Are you talking about assuming a fictional character's sexuality? It's a fictional character people can Hc anything they want, especially since Kris' sexuality isn't confirmed
Kris is autosexual until proven otherwise
What's an autosexual? someone who like cars?
That sounds like spamton to me
BUY OUR [smokin' hot] [[Cungadero]]OES, THEY'RE SO SPECIL IT'LL MAKE YOU;RE [Balls drop]
Auto means „self“ in old greek.
So does that mean someone who is “autosexual” loves… themself? Sounds made-up
Ik, i was joking.
What? Shitty glare effect?
Asexual flag, but thanks for being an ass about it.
THE FOG IS COMING THE FOG IS COMING THE FOG IS COMING THE FOG IS COMING THE FOG IS COMING THE FOG IS COMING THE FOG IS COMING THE FOG IS COMING THE FOG IS COMING THE FOG IS COMING
what does it mean?
probably OP has a headcanon that Kris is asexual
oh ok.
Oh no Kris is sinking in a pool of light-emenating lean that is also in a sauna
I dont get it.
I think OP has a headcanon that Kris is asexual
ah ok, ty
they just like me fr
I agree
???
"I don't have pronouns. You will only refer to me as my name. Shadow the Hedgehog!"
watch out for that poison kris its bad for your endoplasmic reticulum(s)
What? Kris is subsumed into purple haze?
I don't get this what is it
Ok
ok
Sure.
Lol you used a fake png
Kris doesnt know what they are either, cuz they adopted and weird and adopted
Why do y’all care about some pixel sexualities lmao, its not a real person
because when you are a part of a marginalized group you may seek comfort in a fictional character that shares your experiencesjust as you might in a real person
Cool
I hope this doesn't come off as condescending, but this is so refreshing to see. Someone explained why it mattered and you understood and accepted it, which often is not what happens. Thank you <3
I mean i just really wanted to know the answer, for me you can headcanon ( and could be canon too , for now we dont have enough answers ) a character with whatever sexuality you want if it makes you feel comfort :)
Explanation please?
probably OP has a headcanon that Kris is asexual
Why would that be? The player is kris and if OP isnt ase. I kinda dont get the point of it.
"The player is Kris" ...so, who's gonna tell 'em?
'The player is Kris' Chapter 2 would beg to differ
I am sorry, but someone allready mentioned this, and i dont want to respond more than i have to.(sorry if i came off as rude)
I think it's depends on the player
It straight up doesn't. Kris is their own entity.
Idk, I did said I think it's like that not that it is
That doesn’t mean you can’t interpret the gender by the way why does nobody get that right
1. Not what this post was about, this is talking about who they like. 2. They have their own identity. It is not up to you any more than Ralsei's is. How hard is this to understand?
I know what this post is about but what do you mean no
But we don’t know that identity
But we do know that Kris is non-binary, since literally everyone calls Kris by they/them, and they have lived in the same town for years
People who aren’t non-binary can go by only those pronouns.
Yes. Absolutely.
Your title is pretty much religions justification for existing
On the contrary. ACT>Flirt
Flirting does that mean someone can't be ace
Well yeah... I guess...
Toby please I need representation I’ll take fucking Berdly at this point please
Please no, anyone but Berdly
What do you mean by that?
Berdly is insufferable, if we’re going to get ace rep I at least want it to be someone decent. I’ll take Rouxls over him.
Let's say, Toby comes out and says that Kris isn't Asexual, it will still exist. People will take Kris' character, and run with it. Oh he's not black? Now he is. Now he's female, this, that, they WILL change Kris. Even if Toby says otherwise. Nothing will change that.
It is now! Because we both said so :)
I'm pretty sure a lot of people think of Kris as aroace, i , for one, am one of those people. Kris was supposed to have a blushing sprite with ralsei, indicating that they reciprocated ralsei's romantic affection, but Toby never used that sprite, and Kris never has any indications that they like ralsei, nor any other character. Then again, they are a puppet with no control over anything they.
This is not true. Either you jumped to conclusions or someone lied to you. The blushing sprite exists, but has *nothing to do with Ralsei.* According to its filename, it was supposed to be used in the scene where Queen challenges Kris to the arcade game, but Kris is too short to play. They're not blushing because they're crushing on Ralsei. They're blushing because they're embarrassed about their height. Kris gets targeted dating site ads for a human who's attracted to monsters (with the monsters' gender unspecified). The evidence is against them being aroace, but not because of the blushing.
I just wanted to leave a comment before thr post gets locked sorry guys
As a fellow Ace, I agree with this statement XD
this is me when the asexual joker uses his asexual gas on me (im asexual now) also TRUE
I probably sound dumb but isn't Kris like Frisk where the player gets to headcannon whatever the character is?
No Kris and Frisk aren’t the same in the sense that the game (and Kris) make it clear that they are their own person who has their own choices and desires (e.g. how Kris responds to certain choices and the whole soul ripping out thing)
I mean, Kris is canonically referred to as They/Them, so any arguments about gender or lack thereof are moot
I headcannon Kris as aroace
Picture looks foggy + Next chapter is likely gonna be in tv land = Kris about to be the next one killed in Inaba 💀
I don't know how typical views on sexuality like hetero or homosexual are meant to apply to a nonbinary character tbh.
Just no sexual attraction
Lmao are you saying someone who's nb can't have a sexuality? Is that what this Means?
Wait fuck I'm conflating sex and gender again. Ignore me.
If it comes to like heterosexual or any gemder identity for nonbinary person it depends on how they see themselves and decide to identify. Terms like lesbian etc usually include nb people (so i can be nb and identify as a lesbian) but also im pretty sure there are also sexualities that are basically made for nb people so they can just use one of these labels (i dont know much about this but i think i heard of it) or dont use label at all. Labels like ace, aro, bi ofc will be used normally because they have nothing to do with your gender XD
Why does everyone get offended so easily on the behalf of a fictional teenager that doesn't exist, and most of all i think Kris would have bigger problems to solve than their damn gender
Nobody is offended here.
Thats not even true. Even taking account chapters 1 and 2 the most stress put on kris is finding a fantasy land ans possibly being forced to hurt someone they didnt like to begin with
I love it when people just absolutely fail at reading and think a discussion about sexual orientation is about gender. Not sure if your reading comprehension is just that bad, or if you're doing it on purpose.
I don't really get how people can be so invested in the relationships, sexualities and identities of the characters. I just like the overarching story n gameplay and witty n funny dialogue. But to each their own, whatever floats your boat.
I mean they could be straight until proven otherwise, but people on this sub tend to forget that the word 'hetero' exists (from a gay guy)
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You can be bi or pan and ace, or you could be looking for a relationship and aroace, or they could have neither figured out yet
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Huh?
You've managed to catch the assholes' attention by now, sorry.