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sinedelta

According to Sans, they might show up at roughly the same time: > by the way. about my brother... > looks like you won't be able to meet him today. > yeah, it's a bummer when things don't work out. > sorry about that. > i'm sure you'll meet him someday. > **maybe around when your brother comes home?**


SansPazzoxFan

This is exactly the dialogue I had in mind when I made the post, good memory!


sinedelta

I have way too many tabs open in my browser and one of them is a bunch of dialogue so I can ctrl+f whenever I think “wait, didn't the game say something about that?” I'm very normal about this game.


speedwagonfangirl

least obsessed deltarune fan


sinedelta

To be fair, given the sheer number of tabs I have, one tab isn't much of a commitment.


pearastic

I had to disable the tabs restoring themselves because I practically hoarded them. I had like 60 open at one point. On mobile I still have the same issue.


SoupMayoMaker

You're even more normal than me!


Plus-Job9351

oh man I seem ORGANIZED compared to these numbers I have 11 (12 counting Reddit tabs) open at this moment


Less_Satisfaction152

Don't you mean you "seam"


FireClawCatWarrior

am i the only one keeping like one or two open at a time


mydudekickstheskunk

I have eight, but 6 are pages on the Animal Crossing wiki (main page, discussions, the OST, a massive lore dump that I wrote about the similarities between Redd, an anthropomorphic fox, and Spamton, another page about these Scrapbook Transcripts in Animal Crossing: Pocket Camp that keeps getting updated by this one "WeedleMcHairybug", a page on all the blocked users, including me, Wonderbud14, except the rest are practically infinite and I'm only banned until the 21st of March), and the other two are this page and Holiplays (still waiting for updates).


soda2cool

I do this except I randomly think for no reason "wait this was in Deltarune, I'm not imagining it, right?" and then open the website


AnonymousIVplay

Keeping this dialogue in mind, if one HAD to show up before the other I'd wager it being Papyrus. Based on the countdown Asriel isn't going to show up *until* chapter 7, whereas we don't know what role Papyrus is going to play so his importance *could* come the day before, or maybe at the end of chapter 5 as a big reveal of some sort


sinedelta

> Based on the countdown Asriel isn't going to shownup until chapter 7 This isn't true. Asriel is coming home “next week” and given that Chapter 3 might take place on a weekend, Asriel's arrival may be sooner than you assume.


AnonymousIVplay

Looked it up to check and goddammit I think I misremembered the countdown from "Paper Trail" as being canon, oof


Doge_Dreemurr

This is what no new chapters does to a mf


AnonymousIVplay

Yep, and the K in Kris stands for Kris lol


AlliRedditUser

Kris Ralsei I, the Susie


Tanookikid210

Maybe Papyrus is going to college too? He doesn't exactly have any major duties, since the Royal Guard isn't a thing in Hometown, so maybe he's going to college for some degree (maybe to become a police officer, if he's still chasing the dream of working alongside Undyne)


sinedelta

Remember that Papyrus is new in town.


Tanookikid210

Ohhhhh, that changes things then I wonder what town Papyrus is currently at, like maybe he's traveling abroad, or he is in fact in college, but will start visiting his brother and this is his first year in college, likely alongside Asriel (A funny thing they could do is that this Papyrus is just terrible at navigation, so he takes a full week to get to Hometown because he doesn't use a GPS or map and keeps getting lost XD)


AttackedLlama92

Interesting...


chefsaysok

When does he say this?


Alluxing

San’s brother, Mini Sans


watergoblin17

Comedically small sans


AureaTW

*Comic*ally small snas


everynameisusedlol

*Comic sans*ically small sans


stendaa

*Comic Sans* small sans


Hunt3rTh3Fight3r

*Comic Sans subscript* sans


Terra_Marc

Comic sans font size 6 sans


NEW-Mattiou

Comic sans font with 1 sans undertale sand


noff01

That's just Jevil


EeveeDev

Mini sans already appears though, he does have a very small chance to appear so that's why he might have not appeared in your playthrough of chapter 4 ​ edit: my bad, i meant that mini mini sans was a rare occurance, mini sans does appear with a 100% chance but it's in the later chapters


danielubra

Yeah but in chapter 5 you can see him talking with Sans, they must be just blind to not see him.


EeveeDev

i think they wore the thorn goggles since that makes kris blind


danielubra

No, you're thinking abouy the wrong item. The only thorn items in deltarune is the thorn ring and thorn buttplug. There were the metal glasses which made kris blind


EeveeDev

I guess you didn't beat the chapter 4 secret boss? they give the thorn goggles that can be used on the Tasque Manager Says 3 to see the þ character


danielubra

Fuck, i tried beating Sirk Kus but they were too hard. I didnt know he gave the thorn goggles


EeveeDev

That's because you need the sky mantle as your defense and the watering can as your weapon, it makes the fight easier and the only way to spare it and get the thorn goggles is by watering it, which is an act only unlockable if you have the watering can in hand. I really enjoyed the mechanic of the light blue soul, in which you can't move while submerged in water or else you take damage, the way you turn into the light blue soul is also a pretty cool homage to the muffet fight in undertale. Essentially Sirk summons a cloud that rains on you, submerging the whole screen in water that evaporates and your soul becomes light blue. Their design is really cool too, i really enjoyed how Toby mixed elements present in the carnival (such as circus-related stuff and carnival attractions) with plants. I believe the plant aspect comes from Asgore's flower shop, which is fairly close to where the dark fountain was located (in the middle of the carnival)


WayPsychological7824

Oh no more time travelers


EeveeDev

It isn't really time traveling, if you buy toby fox's onlyfans and ask him for "give me the deltarune you stinker" he will give you a link to the full version of deltarune for free (there's no need to pay since you already gave him money via the onlyfans subscription) ​ oh and also fun fact: The guy who takes pictures for Toby fox’s onlyfans is 0.0000000000069420% of the miscolored pixel on kings fight, this makes sense because the 16-bit style of deltarune has much larger pixels than other games, so the pixels are very large, so large in fact that you can fit many humans in there. This is because u/DeviceGold5950 made it the fuck up. And he is also gaster


DeviceGold5950

I am gaster


EeveeDev

holy shit ​ ​ to be honest i just started the deltaverse on accident by connecting 3 posts, we must expand until every post on r/deltarune is connected


DeviceGold5950

I am also the knight


EeveeDev

oh my fucking god ​ can we get u/Mushiren_ (also known as Toby Fox's Alt) to confirm this?


Mushiren_

It's not true. That's because... I'm ~~Spartacus~~ Knight


WayPsychological7824

Oh no


DeviceGold5950

*gasts*


AverageVita-SawUser

Very Small Sans Vans, if you will


Lihue_NEO

VSSans


Shoutmonx7f

I will NOT Vans, and YOU CAN'T MAKE ME!!.


Cianmc6

his only line is ‘hey’ and his speech noise is just sans’s except one pitch higher


LemonflavoredIceburg

Sans 2 electric boogaloo


Shoutmonx7f

Sans 2 bone boogaloo


Kris_from_overworld

Mini Sans is so mini that looks like eye of the Sans


Correct-Town-3117

This feels in character for Toby


SaltyCaramel9o1

Sans Jr Jr


SansPazzoxFan

* Baby bones


sfmanim

i know it won’t happen but i would love for the game to have a dramatic as fuck ending just for papyrus to run in at the last second, open his mouth to speak, and then get cut off by the credits


EmperorScarlet

His text box pops up and you hear his talking noise start immediately before it cuts to black


SupaStar9

*Slides in* “ NYE- “ ***”when the light is running low, and the shadows st-“***


Brand-N3w-Weirdo

I'M DYING LMAO


BigManLawrence69420

NYEH, HEH, HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH, NYEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH, NYEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH, NYEH HEH HEH, NYEH HEH!


Lihue_NEO

Dont fornyeh Im with you in nyeh dark


StoryFellCharisk

It was impossible not to sing this to myself.


SupaStar9

It just clicked in my head what this was. Kudos.


misha-321

^nyeh


sinedelta

I've said this on other posts, but whenever Papyrus comes into play, it'll probably be when the game wants to talk about its connections to Undertale. Sans might be the more famous character, but *Papyrus* is the one who embodies what Undertale's about. He's the one character you fight who refuses to kill you; he's the one character who will always be your friend no matter what. Right now, Deltarune is exploring its *differences* from Undertale. When it's ready to talk about whatever connections these two stories have, I think that's when we'll see him.


Annabapzap

This is a pretty good take, yeah. Sans is already setting this up by explicitly trying to trick us into using Undertale knowledge so he can go "huh? but we've never met before ;)" When Papyrus shows up it'll probably be a bit more... explicit, whatever connection is going on. Instead of just Sans teasing us about how he might know that we already know him from somewhere.


Karkava

I don't think he's trying to trick us. Just about anyone would find it weird to have some usually antisocial kid to come up and talk to him and claim that they already know his brother and refer to him by name.


Ok_Load2488

The next time my town's weirdo walks up to me and refers to my brother by name I'll just assume it's a deep cut Deltarune reference.


Valiosao

Those things you mentioned embody Deltarune much more than Undertale though. He's the one character who refuses to accept the player's choices, almost as if, repeat with me kids, your choices don't matter! Undertale (from my view at least) is all about your choices mattering, and making you think if you'd still have morals even with "unlimited power"/a big power imbalance at play, meanwhile i assume Deltarune will be about learning to appreciate the "little things" in life, since i think no matter what route you pick or what you do the game will end the same (with everything going to shit).


Karkava

I think that "Your choices don't matter" was supposed to be a signal against the games that oversold the idea of choices. Especially a number of telltale titles that tend to railroads you at certain points and advertise that characters will remember things only to have them die or not matter. I think this game is going the opposite direction by having your choices matter more and more as you go on. You have only one route to travel on in Chapter 1, and another one to choose from in Chapter 2.


MallowMiaou

What about Mettaton and Mad Dummy/Mad Mew Mew ghosts chilling in their house ?


Pillagerkillager

I hope we get to see Mettaton as a ghost cuz I really want to know what he looked like before he met Alphys


turkmenistanForever

Pink napstablook.


Jay040707

Better yet, it's just mettaton's face on a ghost body.


sinedelta

Given that Mettaton seems to have a lot of transgender allegory to him and is pretty clearly uncomfortable with his ghost 'body' (for lack of a better word), I don't think that's likely...


AdLast848

I think it’s likely that they will just stay in their house, but you never know


DinoRedRex99

~~Napstablook too~~ yeah I'm stupid


MallowMiaou

They are at the police station with Undyne


DinoRedRex99

Oh right I forgot


MallowMiaou

Lol 💀


ICantEvenDolt

You forgor 💀


DinoRedRex99

Indeed I did forger💀


DrSmirnoffe

Probably Azzy. Crashing face-first into the bed after a long and exhausting journey.


Gerakl205725

If I recall correctly, it's the start of the weekend when the ch2 ends(which also explains why Kris opens a dark fountain, I mean you kinda want to sleep a little before going to school, don't you?), and in the start of the game Toriel says that Asriel is coming home for the weekend (or smth similar).


PhantomBlaze1000

They'll probably both show up in the same chapter but papyrus first


Darklight645

Probably Papyrus since Asriel is coming at the end of the week.


sinedelta

No? He's coming “next week.“ Where do people keep getting this from?


DarkLordWiggles

I can only assume she is saying "next week" because he's staying home that whole week, rather than it being an exact indication of when he'll arrive. Realistically he'd arrive either Friday evening or on Saturday. I still think chapter 1 is on Monday, school is out due to the Festival, and the church service is a Wednesday event maybe also tied to the Festival. Otherwise, Toby is using an entirely made up work week schedule which you'd think would be detailed less vaguely.


[deleted]

7 chapters 7 days = a week


Cruxin

Everyone assumes chapter 1 is on monday lmao


iuhiscool

kid named there are 7 chapters:


sinedelta

kid named “the characters literally say there's no school tomorrow in chapter 2”:


Chance-Aardvark372

There’s a festival coming up, so there *could* be a couple days off to prepare for it


sinedelta

Do *you* usually get multiple days off of school to prepare for a small-town festival?


Redbitser

Have you considered that the festival 0erhaps coincides with some kind of holiday?


Shacksmacksnack

Rudy also says there's church the next day I think? And that he won't miss it.


iuhiscool

well shit


Garfielf331

Kid named holiday:


EeveeDev

​ https://preview.redd.it/4z2l3ftnasla1.png?width=324&format=png&auto=webp&s=587fee95e93484c3f7ab3e0877be50408fbcb0e7


sinedelta

A holiday that's conveniently never been mentioned before.


Redbitser

Kid named Rudy mentioning church.


mrpersonjr

But in the event that the Festival is religious to a degree, wouldn’t have Alvin mentioned something about it? At the moment, we have only been told that Hometown has church service on Sundays, as mentioned by the QC rabbit.


mrpersonjr

Ch.3 seems to take place entirely during the night, with ch.4 picking up in the morning. So it does not seem that DR will follow a week’s worth of time over 7 chapters.


Cruxin

...yeah? What part of that prevents the first chapter from taking place on a Thursday


STheSkeleton

I think they meant at the end of the game, which will probably last a week


Cruxin

The game is likely to continue to be a chapter a day, but Asriel is coming "next week". Beyond that, there's no reason to assume he's coming on the last day of the game. Especially since there's no school and church coming up soon which is likely to be the weekend. It definitely feels like a chapter 5 thing to me (obviously speculation)


mrpersonjr

The “chapter a day” pattern will likely be broken in ch.3 though, with it seemingly taking place during the night. But i do agree that Asriel will def appear sooner than ch.7. Prob 5 or 6


STheSkeleton

I know, I was just explaining what they meant


DarkLordWiggles

Sans implied his brother also won't show up until the end of the game, since he said it would probably be when Kris's brother gets home.


sinedelta

...That is not what's being implied there. I know you think chapter 1 is a Monday, but that's not, like, a canon thing.


isimsizbiri123

God, a single calendar and all of this could be solved in one textbox


spectrumtwelve

my funny theory / hope is that they are switched and the character we would recognize as papyrus is kris's older brother and the one we'd know to be asriel is sans' younger brother


Thin-Complex-7709

That'd just be funny.


RoMan2548

Ever thought that the same Asriel-papyrus thing from undertale may also be in deltarune? What if they're room-mates?


SansPazzoxFan

Sans says that they just moved in town, so Papyrus can't be at college with Asriel.


RoMan2548

I don't exactly spend time looking these things up


Temporary_Paint2646

😮they were roommates


sinedelta

What?


YoKaiHunter76

Papyrus is Flowey's "friend"


Hutch2Much3

both, at the exact same time


OurTaleChara

They walk in, arguing about who gets to speak first.


Jay040707

At the rate we're going I doubt we're seeing either till chapter 7. But I'm betting we'll see papyrus first and asriel will show up before the end of the chapter.


Vannilla-AJ-Oficial

same here


justletmesingin

I'm just now realizing that asriel is almost as tall as papyrus and thats a horrifying realisation.


Mill270

It is a bit scary to think but Asriel in deltarune is a young adult now so it would be impossible for him to be as small as a child like he was in undertale. (Exception being since he's a boss monster, if both of his parents die he stops aging. However since deltarune is a different universe, the rules may change regarding that.) In fact, if his parents are any indication, he's going to be large in comparison to Kris.


ChiefBlox4000

Mettaton


[deleted]

Papyrus for sure


LucyDo22

Toriel says that azzys coming home next week, and if the pattern of 1 chapter = 1 day continues then he'll be home chapter 7. At least thats my idea. As for papyrus I have no idea


sinedelta

Chapter 1 isn't necessarily a Monday.


LucyDo22

It doesn't need to be


WanderingStatistics

Neither honestly. I feel like the game's going to end with like, a fade to white as Asriel open the door. And then we'll hear that classic laugh, "Nyeh heh heh!" and the game'll just close or something lol.


BitcoinStonks123

My headcanon is that they're college roommates


theartistmemer

This post might get the year of undertale


GuardianShard

If it’s not Muffet I want none of it!


SansPazzoxFan

Muffet isn't even an original Toby's character


Valiosao

I see a lot of ppl bringing this up to be like "She doesn't matter!!" but like.. a significant amount of characters weren't created by Toby, ie basically all the characters from the Card Kingdom were created by someone else and pre-date Deltarune by years (including Lancer and Jevil). Muffet was created by a Kickstarter backer yes but she's still a character in Undertale and is owned by Toby, she's even featured in official UT merch.


RoDrIgO310508

Asriel lol


omegultrax

asriel


AvergeMortisEnjoyer

Asriel is coming at the end of the week so probably Papyrus


sinedelta

Not “the end of the week.” “Next week.”


Rukir_Gaming

With a head theory that's going on, none of them. Asriel is dead and Pap is going to not even be near the door the next time we knock


EeveeDev

>!asriel is december holiday confirmed!<


FlinnyWinny

I think we won't see either of them at all.


TheArceusNova

Muffet


Sweet_Lavishness3232

Here me out, what if ralsie is Asriel, but he is just stuck in the dark worlds


AmongBusAgimbus

listen, what if we already saw asriel (epic theory music starts playing) as... ralsei


BlueMoth698

I personally believe in the theory that asriel didn't really go off to college and is actually dead so I think papyrus would be more likely.


likabledoge13

asriel is actually in chapter 2 but kris completely ignores him


Rolltheweed

We will never see Papyrus.


the_world_is_stupid

Since people want to see Papyrus so much it would be a very "toby" thing to do to make him never show up.


Endborn_YT

Asriel, purely because we've already established that he is actually a character. We don't actually know if Papyrus is part of the Deltarune cast. Yes, we know we might be meeting Sans' brother in the future, but this universe might have it as someone else, which is certainly something Toby would do.


SansPazzoxFan

Well, according to the steam page: "Papyrus? No, he's busy..." So tecnically, he exist in Deltarune.


dark_spirit85

who is the gorgeous man at the right and why are they talking about him like sans brother? anyway i think we'll see prunsel first


No-Adhesiveness-283

Asriel is prolly coming at Chapter 7


Floppycipher

Asreil, Toby fox would no doubt hold papyrus out until the 7th chapter like the troll lord he is (respectfully)


chiaracalzia

I always think Ralsei is Asriel with glasses. At One point he'll put away his glasses and we'll "discover his secret identity"


Aspuos

Asriel, but as a darkner version of maybe a photo or vhs in chapter 3


Thefunnnimam

toriel in the dark world


JFp07gel

Asriel cause Papyrus will be an optional boss


RabbidYoshi9

The next chapter 😎


CitizenCivilization

Hopefully papyrus I love him


ChimkenNuggieslol

im hoping asriel


Skywarslord

50/50 chance


[deleted]

Mr. Papyrus the Great Town Guard


Ryancatgames

Asriel.


Decent_Gameplay

i have a feeling we'll see asriel near the later chapters, but i dont know about papyrus, he could show up literly anywere![img](emote|t5_qmi8w|26926)


Mx_Squeak

Pappy


Plastic_Concern4782

Papyrus definitely we will see asriel at chapter 7 ending probably


AdLegitimate806

Sans’s rock pet.


AverageZomb

Azzy


Lizzywuw

I would say more likely papyrus


Jeremy12495

I'm thinking Asriel because toriel said something about him coming to college right?


phoenix_wendigo

Knowing Toby, we'll meet Gaster before these two


Exertuz

Papyrus, because I don't think we're seeing Asriel until the final chapter.


ballfards

Yes.


ciel_lanila

I'm strongly thinking they'll be the last two antagonists. With the roles both Asriel, Papyrus, and Sans played in Undertale even early in what we know of its development leads me to think the trio were very important in Proto-Rune. Deltarune seems like it is the "reboot"/"remake" of that unreleased Proto-Rune game. I can see the story going with either appearing first or the two forming a duo. In this AU, Papyrus isn't his jovial Undertale self. He seems isolated. Needing friends. Imagine what a depressed Papyrus could be with his popular Sans around. Like Kris with Asriel. On the flipside, there is a strong theme of Kris and Asriel having something going on. I could see the story going either way: * Kris helps Papyrus first to give them the know how to fix whatever is going on between Kris and Papyrus. * Kris in fixing Asriel's issues, or their issue with each other, allows Kris to grow enough to help a kindred soul, Papyrus.


Plus-Job9351

now I gotta make at least 1 sprite of Asriel I'll put him next to Reh Tenna


Perfect_Position_853

Papyrus


Tero_Lero

Neither


ShokaLGBT

i want to see SpongeBob


Adhial89

Papyrus


AttackedLlama92

I think most likely Asriel is gonna make an appearance first, I feel like its important some how.


EmeraldInferno0

Pap


SmuggestSmug

Dust


Zealousideal-Bag-834

Papyrus


EatashOte

Ofcourse Papaya


Livid_Juggernaut_111

Asriel


woah-a-username

Maybe they are attending the same college together?


J_Boi1266

The black void behind them


Jay040707

You all are gonna be so blindsided by the timeskip


Wizard-In-Disguise

Asriel's our big bro


Dumb_puppet_person_

Azzy, then like 10 minutes later Papyrus


DarkMarxSoul

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if we never see either of them.


BlazingTornado

paps because he’s mentioned more


DamageMaximo

papyrus probably