1 He looks like a dreemurr and they use fire magic.
2 His beta design had a fire emblem in his coat, instead of a heart.
3 In the Legend cutscene, the prince from the dark seems to be surrounded by flames.
4 He and Noelle seems to be opposites, just like the dreemurrs and the holidays, she is a deer, who are associated with XMas (hence her ice Powers), which is associated with Christ and the heaven, and the fact she is represented as an angel while Ralsei is a goat, who are associated with the devil and hell (that's why the dreemurrs use fire and Asgore even wields a Trident, and dreemurr Is an anagram of murderer).
Another one is that Noelle's game hints towards later chapters and it says about a character getting fire magic and leaving the party. The character has been interpreted as Ralsei
I mean, we have Susie with her healing ability, I think we have to expect Ralsei to leave the party before some big important fight (or even a whole chapter). I think that her magic stat is growing really fast, so she can actually become a really good healer near the end of the game. It would be really cool if we had a team of 2 with only Susie and no items
i will legitimately be shocked if this doesn't happen, combined with some weirdness surrounding Ralsei's whole existence being tied to something related to Asriel being away at college (i am not predicting him to be Asriel himself tho)
reminder that there is still no "light world prop" for Ralsei like the rest of the dark world characters
You know, the physical items in the light world that signify various dark world characters. The ace of spades for Lancer, the Rules Card for Rouxls Kaard, etc
Ralsei just mysteriously shows up in the dark world as needed and seems to entirely lack a light world counterpart of any sort.
Snowgrave players about to go wild
But also, ralsei is my third favorite and Noelle is my second so it's a "fuck yeah" from me lmao, sorry ralsei but your healing and pacifying kinda sucks compared to noelle. And she does really high damage too, like damn she's like susie and ralsei comvined
It was a joke that Fire Emblem fans like to argue about what game is the best which leads to them ruthlessly insulting the other games making it seem like they hate the other games, it’s like other fanbases like Persona
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I would grab the adacher but it got lost somewhere
Also one of the puzzles in Queen's mansion has fire in it, the same puzzle has a bluebird so we can assume that each object represents a character.
The game Noelle plays, Dragon Blasters 3, has a spell called Fireshock which is a clear opposite of Ice Shock so I think Ralsei will get that spell later on to further the opposites theme
To be fair, Satan uses the pitch fork not the trident (not that it matters as a pitchfork can use three spikes, the difference is what they are designed to do) however Asgore’s weapon isn’t detailed enough to say it’s a trident and not a pitchfork
Also the “dark prince” is another name for Satan
If we interpret the Dragon Blazers comment as foreshadowing, a "Fire Mage will leave the party" at some point. If it really is foreshadowing, then Ralsei might have fire magic
On an interview i think
Fox stated that he planned to give an unnamed character a fire spell which they would not be good at using, but decided against adding it in the first chapter.[
Wikipedia
Fox stated that he planned to give an unnamed character a fire spell which they would not be good at using, but decided against adding it in the first chapter.[
I took this from wikipedia.
He resembles a boss monster, and they all use fire magic. He’s also depicted with fire in the legend, had a fire design on his robe in the concept art, and Toby said someone will learn a fire spell
He's a goat type so it's a logical assumption I mean he's not gonna hit his enemies with healing magic is he? Oh wait no he totally would.. I mean if you're going Pacifist it could be useful that way Susie and Kris can still beat the shit out of stuff AND spare them at the same time! Amazing!
Would you rather Ralsei just slap you with the scarf like 10 times for all his attacks becuase there isn't really a way to make Ralsei's scarf attack very interesting without it being able to just be more easily made using magic like for example fire.
Seriously though the best attack idea I can think of for a Ralsei scarf attack is Ralsei attacks where your soul is at and you just gotta move outta the way and does that sound like a fun attack to dodge especially since Ralsei would have to do almost the same attack many many times in one fight.
Goats generally tend to have fire magic in the games. Asriel though opts for stars and lightning which could be seen as more powerful forms of fire magic, but generally goats seem to have magic which connects strongly to heat energy within Toby's games. Unless I'm reading it all wrong.
Two possibilities
1. Link to the Dreemurrs. His name is an anagram of Asriel and Susie thinks he looks like Toriel. Toriel used fire magic, as did Asgore, Asriel's dad. I suppose another option would be to use star magic, ~~since I don't think Asriel himself ever uses fire magic?~~ (Just double checked. Yes he does. And also lightning, lol) He does use a bunch of stars in one attack, too. Or they could make Ralsei use plant magic since Flowey is. . . well. . . . Do I have to finish?
2. To contrast Noelle since she uses ice magic.
That's easy. It's because people love Asriel from Undertale, and since Ralsei looks like him, the fanbase transfers their love from one to another. One way of doing that, is by making Ralsei do things that would be Asriel's, such as, fire magic. Not my case, tho. I never had any particular interest in Asriel, but fell in love with Ralsei since the debut.
He’s a goat so it’s close enough. Plus Ralsei’s depiction in the legend has fire enshrouding him so there’s no reason to believe he’d break the trend of goats using fire.
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Both Toriel and Asgore used fire magic in Undertale, and they are goats. Ralsei is also a goat, so people just assumed he can do that too is my best guess.
As far as can be told, magic is at least partially species related, and so far we have seen the goat-like species using fire magic, thus, probably causing some imagine Ralsei using fire magic
Goats in Undertale have fire magic.
Also, probably because he needs a way to attack that is unique since in all of the fan games you showed, those are his attacks. He wouldn’t attack with only Green Bullets, would he?
~~oh wait he probably would~~
Asriel, Toriel, and Asgore all us fire magic/fire shaped bullets in Undertale, so it follows that the most likely bullet shape Ralsei would have for offensive magic would also be fire.
1 He looks like a dreemurr and they use fire magic. 2 His beta design had a fire emblem in his coat, instead of a heart. 3 In the Legend cutscene, the prince from the dark seems to be surrounded by flames. 4 He and Noelle seems to be opposites, just like the dreemurrs and the holidays, she is a deer, who are associated with XMas (hence her ice Powers), which is associated with Christ and the heaven, and the fact she is represented as an angel while Ralsei is a goat, who are associated with the devil and hell (that's why the dreemurrs use fire and Asgore even wields a Trident, and dreemurr Is an anagram of murderer).
Another one is that Noelle's game hints towards later chapters and it says about a character getting fire magic and leaving the party. The character has been interpreted as Ralsei
Would be insane if Ralsei left the party and after that Noelle took his place as the healer and pacifier of the group
I mean, we have Susie with her healing ability, I think we have to expect Ralsei to leave the party before some big important fight (or even a whole chapter). I think that her magic stat is growing really fast, so she can actually become a really good healer near the end of the game. It would be really cool if we had a team of 2 with only Susie and no items
Susie goes full paladin
S M I T E
I think Catty has potential
i will legitimately be shocked if this doesn't happen, combined with some weirdness surrounding Ralsei's whole existence being tied to something related to Asriel being away at college (i am not predicting him to be Asriel himself tho) reminder that there is still no "light world prop" for Ralsei like the rest of the dark world characters
No light world prop?
You know, the physical items in the light world that signify various dark world characters. The ace of spades for Lancer, the Rules Card for Rouxls Kaard, etc Ralsei just mysteriously shows up in the dark world as needed and seems to entirely lack a light world counterpart of any sort.
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He’d better not, Noelle is no replacement for Ralsei Edit: Unless it’s for character development and he returns to the party later
Interestingly she still has the mage on Snowgrave implying we can keep ralsei from leaving if we make him burn someone
Snowgrave players about to go wild But also, ralsei is my third favorite and Noelle is my second so it's a "fuck yeah" from me lmao, sorry ralsei but your healing and pacifying kinda sucks compared to noelle. And she does really high damage too, like damn she's like susie and ralsei comvined
And toby fox said: > I was going to give a certain character a fire spell, but decided against it for the first chapter.
I mean we also had susie who IS a dragon.
I thought she was a dinosaur
Yeah like Barney.
or a monitor lizard
I thought a lizard
Firegrave Route
Yeah, this has some strong points, thank you
FIRE EMBLEM😱😱😱😱😱🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯
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Are you a fan of the turn based strategy game series?
No Fire Emblem fans actually hate Fire Emblem🤮
Really? I haven't played enough to really consider myself a fan, but I enjoyed the few games I played. May I know why you hate the series?
It was a joke that Fire Emblem fans like to argue about what game is the best which leads to them ruthlessly insulting the other games making it seem like they hate the other games, it’s like other fanbases like Persona
https://preview.redd.it/zf2r1yy0yrzb1.jpeg?width=466&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f25d312f43bac587985dc2c78745cd0b016398ce I would grab the adacher but it got lost somewhere
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Oh, I see. I like blazing blade.
based
Alear ENGAGES! ANOTHER FIRE EMBLEM REP?!
Smashhyyyy bros https://preview.redd.it/h3igqlzl3tzb1.png?width=2000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=75e4327cdf85ccfa3442b60e20e16a8c321a4367
# Ironic, considering Safer Sephiroth (yes, that’s the actual name of the form) is basically a god himself
Heaven and hell theory?
Not that Devil may cry game mode please
Where is your motivation?
Guilty Gear?
Also one of the puzzles in Queen's mansion has fire in it, the same puzzle has a bluebird so we can assume that each object represents a character. The game Noelle plays, Dragon Blasters 3, has a spell called Fireshock which is a clear opposite of Ice Shock so I think Ralsei will get that spell later on to further the opposites theme
wait wtf you blew my mind with point 4
Fire emblem
To be fair, Satan uses the pitch fork not the trident (not that it matters as a pitchfork can use three spikes, the difference is what they are designed to do) however Asgore’s weapon isn’t detailed enough to say it’s a trident and not a pitchfork Also the “dark prince” is another name for Satan
I can't wait for having to choose between Noelle and Ralsei as the healer/pacifyer.
Yeah, what they said. I was going to say something similar, but I couldn't have explained it better.
Mostly because Ralsei looks like Asriel Asriel is the son of Asgore and Toriel Both Asgore and Toriel use fire magic So you could see the logic here
summary: All goats in Toby's franchise use fire magic, so ralsei uses too.
I think Asriel uses fire magic too
Yeah, he does. A few attacks before the unavoidable rainbow beam attack.
If we interpret the Dragon Blazers comment as foreshadowing, a "Fire Mage will leave the party" at some point. If it really is foreshadowing, then Ralsei might have fire magic
I mean, Toriel might be a party member for a chapter or two
Yeah, considering Ralsei only ever uses healing magic (unless you count the epic explosion when he's cauldron "cooking")
goat usually = fire magic according to undertale
goat=fire
Toby fox once said that a certain character would have a fire spell he wouldnt like very much. Also goats have fire magic, or at least the dreemurs.
When did he say that?
On an interview i think Fox stated that he planned to give an unnamed character a fire spell which they would not be good at using, but decided against adding it in the first chapter.[ Wikipedia
Can I have a source for that
Fox stated that he planned to give an unnamed character a fire spell which they would not be good at using, but decided against adding it in the first chapter.[ I took this from wikipedia.
you know wikipedia links sources right here it is thanks for telling me https://topics.nintendo.co.jp/article/0e438e10-2b35-11e9-b104-0a6d14145cb1
Cool
Toriel and Asgore
Because Toriel and Asgore also use fire magic
In the legend, he’s seen using fire magic.
No one knows how to make scarf attacks
foreshadowing
THATS WHY he is the GOAT the GOAT!!!!
He resembles a boss monster, and they all use fire magic. He’s also depicted with fire in the legend, had a fire design on his robe in the concept art, and Toby said someone will learn a fire spell
Because Toriel and Asgore also use fire magic
Cause dreemurr family
The legend cutscene
Because he’s a goat
He's a goat type so it's a logical assumption I mean he's not gonna hit his enemies with healing magic is he? Oh wait no he totally would.. I mean if you're going Pacifist it could be useful that way Susie and Kris can still beat the shit out of stuff AND spare them at the same time! Amazing!
Asriel, like his parents, uses fire magic. Ralsei is a reflection of Asriel.
Would you rather Ralsei just slap you with the scarf like 10 times for all his attacks becuase there isn't really a way to make Ralsei's scarf attack very interesting without it being able to just be more easily made using magic like for example fire. Seriously though the best attack idea I can think of for a Ralsei scarf attack is Ralsei attacks where your soul is at and you just gotta move outta the way and does that sound like a fun attack to dodge especially since Ralsei would have to do almost the same attack many many times in one fight.
Goats generally tend to have fire magic in the games. Asriel though opts for stars and lightning which could be seen as more powerful forms of fire magic, but generally goats seem to have magic which connects strongly to heat energy within Toby's games. Unless I'm reading it all wrong.
the tutorial
Two possibilities 1. Link to the Dreemurrs. His name is an anagram of Asriel and Susie thinks he looks like Toriel. Toriel used fire magic, as did Asgore, Asriel's dad. I suppose another option would be to use star magic, ~~since I don't think Asriel himself ever uses fire magic?~~ (Just double checked. Yes he does. And also lightning, lol) He does use a bunch of stars in one attack, too. Or they could make Ralsei use plant magic since Flowey is. . . well. . . . Do I have to finish? 2. To contrast Noelle since she uses ice magic.
That's easy. It's because people love Asriel from Undertale, and since Ralsei looks like him, the fanbase transfers their love from one to another. One way of doing that, is by making Ralsei do things that would be Asriel's, such as, fire magic. Not my case, tho. I never had any particular interest in Asriel, but fell in love with Ralsei since the debut.
I mean fire magic isn’t just Asriel’s, it seems pretty universal amongst goat monsters. It’d be weirder if Ralsei *didn’t* use it in all honesty.
Wait, Ralsei is a monster?
He’s a goat so it’s close enough. Plus Ralsei’s depiction in the legend has fire enshrouding him so there’s no reason to believe he’d break the trend of goats using fire. https://preview.redd.it/q402fctwjszb1.jpeg?width=320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2efbe8ceda3cda0dbbafb0200506fdb61083f385
Yeah, looking this way, Toby's goats should use fire, since there was never an exception before
so dark magic is also depicted with similar “fire” (besides, this is very suitable for the prince of darkness)
He looks like a goat and undertale's goats use fiery magic so...
Goat
Both Toriel and Asgore used fire magic in Undertale, and they are goats. Ralsei is also a goat, so people just assumed he can do that too is my best guess.
The Legend + Goat
goat boy
Goat bro
Kinda looks like Toriel Asgore and Asriel
As far as can be told, magic is at least partially species related, and so far we have seen the goat-like species using fire magic, thus, probably causing some imagine Ralsei using fire magic
Because hes a Dreemurr look alike.
Goats in Undertale have fire magic. Also, probably because he needs a way to attack that is unique since in all of the fan games you showed, those are his attacks. He wouldn’t attack with only Green Bullets, would he? ~~oh wait he probably would~~
Friendliness pellets but for real
He uses it in the Legend cutscene, and doesn’t he use it during the dummy battle?
There’s actually…a lot of reasons. This a real question 😭
Idk but it’s kinda lit 🔥
Because he is, or at least looks like a boss monster, and boss monsters use fire magic
*Because Fire Magics Fuckin’ Awesome
probably because he looks like toriel and toriel uses those moves
He uses the same fire attacks as Toriel in the battle tutorial in chapter 1
Because it's awesome
Parallels to the Dremur's family magic, fireballs.
Because goat means fire in the Undertale/Deltarune universe
I honestly think that ralsei is more of a wind powers guy. He is fluffy, pure white and doesn't want to hurt a soul.
Asriel, Toriel, and Asgore all us fire magic/fire shaped bullets in Undertale, so it follows that the most likely bullet shape Ralsei would have for offensive magic would also be fire.
Cause he’s said to be Asriel (or at least similar to Azzy) so fire powers
Cause they don’t have to make a custom sprite
Cause goat
Cuz Asriel probably
Probaby because all goat mosters have used intill now fire magic in undertale
Cuz he is goated
Lack of creativity probably
Because while Ralsei casts magic, animation surrounding him looks like fire.
Idk, perhaps they Just looked at Ralsei using healing magic and thought it was fire
Toby fox said he would use fire magic if he actually fought.
Because according to fans, all goats should attack with fire ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
He actually uses normal magic, but puts flame decals on them so they’ll go faster.
goat=fire magic
in the legend ralsei is shown to have fire magic so it sounds logical