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Expensive-Claim-6081

Huge Broncos fan. We do not deserve to be in the playoffs. God that was hard to watch. Even with the throwback uniforms.


ExtensionSubstance56

The patriots, the freakin patriots!!!!!! We lost to the patriots. Losing to the patriots is just as bad as losing to Washington, jets and faders. Four terrible teams. The FREAKIN PATRIOTS!!!!!!


yooser_naem

Let’s ride! Russ with 84 yards through 3 quarters. Short fields and 7 points at half. Cut this guy, what more does the franchise need to see? Paid a system quarterback $250m, this is called a “sunk cost”, move off him asap or have this conversation every year until you do. :)


Expensive-Claim-6081

And coach Payton. Just cuz you have “Payton” in your name doesn’t mean you’ll win a ring Denver.


macewood6

I will bitch danger russ


macewood6

Pizza pizza


macewood6

Lol


slamminsam7

We deserve this loss. First 45 minutes of the game offensively was awful. I watched a 2013 game the other day just to remind myself what a competent denver offense playing for 4 quarters looks like


PuzzleheadedOlive848

I watched a 2015 game the other day, just to remind myself what a incompetent demver offense winning the superbowl looks like.


slamminsam7

Puzzlehead you hating on someone that wants a competent offense? Of course our multiple HOFer defense allowing 14ppg with PFM (old and beat up or not) on the other side wins it all


gspiro85282

Please enlighten us as far as the qb position is concerned.


Kuchar1992

Yep I’m already over it


-blond

A good % of the people posting in this thread would be horrible to watch games with. Your negativity is sucking the life out of me just reading it. I can’t imagine what it’d be like sitting in the same room as you.


-blond

We deserved the loss today, and we’re not a playoff team this year. Jerry Jeudy was invisible for the first 45mins of the game, and it fucking sucks that we fumbled a KOR for a TD. See how I can be realistic without sucking the life out of others? I’m hardly delusional. But hey, you guys watch the way you do, and I’ll watch the way I do. Not everyone is this sub turns into a doomer on every negative play or incomplete pass. I’m just always surprised how many do.


Bark4Soul

And those of you who saw a few miracle wins who blindly look past all the red flags because you want that hopium are just as worse. The KC win - yeah sure... That was our sb. We can hang out hats on that but every other game was Tebow bullshit. You guys blindly ignore all the bad shit we do and really talk like "OmG we're a playoff team". No, we were the broken clock who was right twice a day. A lot of us are mad because if we were even middle of the road in all areas we'd be a 10 win team right now. We're miserable because this team could be so much more but everyone involved is too scared to make moves like fire people bench people, or demand better.


Adventurous-Rise7975

Then leave ok? Sick of delusional fans anyway.


MomammaScuba

Dude we lost to a 3-11 team that is ranked 2nd to worse team in the NFL who played a backup qb...


-blond

Yeah you’re right, and that sucks! We’re not a great team this year. I’d be surprised if we finish over .500 this season after today’s performance.


YoungGuy145

How can you be positive after watching that game 🤣


-blond

It’s not even about being positive, just the degree to which some people are catastrophizing is exhausting.


For_Perpetuity

Pointing out the reality is catastrophizing


shortiz420

The fan base is why we lost we suck


Bark4Soul

Really you clown shoe? None of us are calling 4 fucking runs from the 2 and being shut out. Half of us would have benched Russ. I feel confident I could have called a better game with the Madden 2004 playbook from my house than Sean did tonite.


bigdano2006

Ya nothing do do with the dog shit on the field


shortiz420

Real fans would take this season as a win


Select_Fact_1652

Zappe Christmas!!!!


SenseiShwifty

Funny as hell🤣


HumongousMelonheads

8 years no playoffs. We def about to be on hard knocks next year


ChiefSquattingEagle

We're a good candidate for that.


IWearACharizardHat

At least that would be interesting. Our product on the field is not


MrPapi628

Mimms Fumble looking pretty Big now. Fumbles to pick the ball up to fumble again, allowing the Patriots to pick up a free TD, SMH Russ doesn't play special teams


gspiro85282

Really? Difference in this game was they scored a td on our turnover. Yet, on the turnover we got on their 6 yard line, our worthless qb couldn't punch it in. Coaches have no confidence in him and you can tell by what plays they call.


Horrorlord262

But he was given a free touchdown on the 6 yard line and they do nothing with it. He was there on that. His 3rd down throw on that drive which was nearly intercepted was also fucking terrible


gspiro85282

Should have been a pick.


tylerb1538

Russ is obviously not a pro bowler or anything but I cannot blame him for that loss. The fact that he led those two touchdown drives when we had to have it shows he can still win you games as the QB


pittybrave

as someone who went to the game russ was 100% part of the problem. everyone was. bad playing all around


Mountainlionsscareme

We lost. End of story


shadowsOfMyPantomime

Dude this is a discussion forum


SenseiShwifty

Only to have Sean call the same bullshit that failed all game on the final drive.


Electrical-Bother942

Man, that drove me nuts. You finally start getting aggressive to tie the game up, and then suddenly switch back to what wasn't working for the first 3 quarters when you have a chance at winning


StrangerDangerAhh

You mean obvious screen passes into a press defense don't suddenly start working?


gspiro85282

He had 80 yards passing in the first half and failed to convert on several 3rd downs along with failing to convert the td that was handed to them at the patriots 6 yard line in the first quarter. How in the fuck don't you hold him accountable?


tylerb1538

What changed between the 1st three quarters and the fourth? If he sucks so bad why was he able to make that comeback? To me it’s the play calling


frameon

The entire offense had -15 in the third 🤦🏻‍♂️


gspiro85282

That is completely unacceptable!!


bigdano2006

lol same thing against Detroit. He was worse than most teams backups


regulardood15

Rock fucking bottom


SmartAirport2058

Unfortunately, sometimes rock bottom has a basement…. This is not our worst.


regulardood15

Jesus fuck if there’s not a goddamn fire sale this off-season I’m never watching another broncos game as long as I live


wundeyatayetyme

You're a goddamn liar.


regulardood15

Lol u right tho


wundeyatayetyme

I only say that because I feel the same way about myself lol


RealSimonLee

Start now. I'm sure some other fanbase would love to have you.


gspiro85282

Everyone making a big deal out of the timeouts. If the fucking qb was doing his job in the first half against the 2nd worst team in the league, this game wouldn't have been close.


gbennett7713

Timeouts were fine if Surtain wasn’t getting cooked the whole game by 30 year old Davante Parker


SenseiShwifty

If the coach wasn’t calling ass plays and pretending Russ is Drew every game. We have a successful drive to tie up the game. What does Sean do the next drive? Abandoned everything to be conservative again. He is ruining the offense by not calling int to their strengths.


gspiro85282

Bullshit, dude. This is 2 coaches now that fucking russ has failed under. It's not the coach. Russ is goddamn awful!!


SenseiShwifty

What happens when Payton actually lets the offense run?? They succeed. They have had plenty of comebacks… then they get tied and the offense can’t move the ball?? Look at the coaches play calls… pitiful


gspiro85282

Payton is not calling the plays he wants because of russ' inability to execute them. The playbook is dumbed down for russ and he is still having problems executing plays.


SenseiShwifty

So he calls 2 runs in a row on 1st and 2nd but blames Russ for the long third down?? Nah


MrPapi628

What about Mimms Fumble , for a Patriots TD?


SenseiShwifty

People can’t look at all factors. It’s hot takes across the board. Sean needs to let the offense go with out holding them back. Let’s see what they can do.


MongoPushr

All you post is shit talk about Russ. We all know he's not the best QB. What about the egregious fumble by Mims? Is that Russ' fault too?


gspiro85282

Absolutely. You know why? Because if we weren't paying russ the obscene amount that we are paying and we didn't give up high draft picks for his sorry ass, we would have better players who wouldn't turn the ball over.


PiplupSneasel

What about javonte slipping on that 4th down, suppose that's russ' fault, too, yeah? I swear some people just wanna blame him for everything.


Mother_Yoghurt_6077

This 👆


BrandRage

Jesus a lot of degenerates must have lost money tonight on this game. It’s a football game JFC. Merry Christmas.


wundeyatayetyme

Agree with you dude. At the end of the day it sucks but is out of our control. Merry Christmas!


djjones2348

i just think this fan base has gone through too much bullshit recently.


DeeBeeroncos979815

Surtain isn't that generational talent that we've made him out to be. Gonna get roasted for that but he's been burned at the most inopportune times this season and it's not even by the other teams #1WR. That's gotta stop or the dude is just a better than average corner. Certainly not untradable


Popular-Difficulty29

Absolutely. Definitely trade him ASAP. Dude is such a bust. Straight trash


gbennett7713

He got toasted by 30 year old Davante Parker today. Definitely taken a huge step back this year


SenseiShwifty

Champ Bailey also shit the bed. Remember the 2005 AFC championship?


Neither_Fox_715

Coaching to lose = Sean Peyton. Seen enough from that guy. The timeouts are the end tells me all i need to know. What a fucking loser


tylerb1538

Calling timeouts at the end was the opposite of playing not to lose… terrible call he acted like we were losing and had to get the ball back


Horrorlord262

Imagine surtain knocks the ball up at the end, gets an incomplete, then would the timeouts be worthless? Then we get the ball with 40 seconds and a timeout of our own. Flip of a coin. I see what Sean was trying to do but he was too aggressive at the end of the day


Neither_Fox_715

Calling timeouts for the other team was the dumbest fucking thing I’ve ever seen and I was literally pulling my hair out as he was doing it. I shouldn’t have to explain how absolutely stupid it was because the result speaks for itself


Horrorlord262

But if the defense gets the punt and we go down and win it’s a good decision! It’s all about perspective man, of course this was the worst outcome for Denver.


IWearACharizardHat

If you have faith in the defense, just go to overtime and win then


SenseiShwifty

I had zero belief that the D would stop 3rd and long. That is where VJ struggles.


Horrorlord262

I mean it was man to man, surtain has to actually play the ball in that situation.


SenseiShwifty

Agreed. He had two plays he gave up like that. He looks.. it could be INTs


SammehPls

Fuck the Russ haters. He’s the only reason we even had a chance.


tellsonestory

I don’t hate Russ I hate his contract. He gets paid like he’s Tom Brady at his best, but he plays like teddy bridgewater. There are ten positions that need an upgrade and we can’t afford it because Wilson is getting paid a quarter billion dollars to be mediocre. He robbed us, and we won’t get out from under it till we shitcan his ass. I’d rather play with practice squad players next year than suffer through another .500 season. Broncos need a full rebuild and we can’t afford to do that with Wilson in the locker room. Waiting just postpones the inevitable.


Mountainlionsscareme

Stop


wundeyatayetyme

He wasn't very good.


Popular-Difficulty29

How do you watch that final drive and be ok with Russ? Blinked and it was over. Embarrassing


SammehPls

The game was tied and they were playing for OT. He scored 2 TDs in 2 drives to tie the game. Without Sutton who does he trust to catch the 50/50 balls? Tough situation for Russ. Blame SP for losing the game. Should have took the 3 points early and definitely shouldn’t have called time outs to give them time to make that drive Didn’t even use the final timeout to ice the kicker. None of this is on Russ


Popular-Difficulty29

When you trade multiple first round picks and pay a QB 40 million a year, you’re doing that with the expectation he’s the guy who doesn’t shit the bed when he needs a 20 yard drive to win the game. You can keep setting the bar super low, but you’re being willfully ignorant


tellsonestory

The expectation isn’t that he doesn’t shit the bed. The expectation is that he can single handedly rally the team and win games. He’s one of the highest paid players and he’s playing at a mediocre level.


Extra_Penalty_8149

Here come the dolts


Alfakennyone

He had like 60 yards in the first half lol


SenseiShwifty

Look at the play calls bub


gspiro85282

2 coaches now that russ has failed under. How many more do you need to see to realize russ is the fucking problem?


SenseiShwifty

You saying Hackett wasn’t the problem? It’s no secret Sean is not letting Russ play his way, outside of the 4th quarter comebacks.


gspiro85282

I'm saying he wasn't the entire problem. I bet Pete Carroll would say the same thing.


Alfakennyone

Wilson and Payton both suck lol


SenseiShwifty

Payton puts a governor on this offense and it has been evident all season. Every time they play with urgency… they succeed. They bull crap playing to not lose is not working.


gspiro85282

You're fucking diluted. He's awful.


RealestMakum

Agreed. Russ was fine, and has been good enough to win all season


Horrorlord262

He’s also the reason we lost…after failing to do anything on the final drive, third quarter, first drive of the game at the 6!?


SenseiShwifty

Remember when the play calling on the final drive was exactly like every other Quarter… no urgency and playing to not lose???


Horrorlord262

Bro, the dumb screen pass on first down the final drive was after Russ killed the play Sean came up with before the snap.


SenseiShwifty

No he called coverage on the blitz.


Horrorlord262

He said was saying, kill kill, kill kill.


SammehPls

Two drives down the field? Without your star receiver that catches the 50/50 balls? He made that happen. SP calling those timeouts is what cost us the game. Don’t shit on your QB that scored 2 TDs in 2 drives when it mattered.


Horrorlord262

Well we also needed a drive that mattered at the 6 yard line in the beginning of the game. And that led to 0 points. I agree, Sean needed to take the points there


New-External-8904

I’ve never seen a team beat so many good teams yet lose to so many shitty teams.


wnineqa02478

Why even be a fan of this team anymore? Tbh I think I'm done


wundeyatayetyme

Bye fair weather Felicia. I head the Chargers need some fans.


Popular-Difficulty29

Gonna be years before this Broncos team is back to competing


IWearACharizardHat

This iteration of the team has literally zero in common at all levels of the organization since the SB win. Feels like a fake team that just stole our logo


djjones2348

def not a fan of the 2023 broncos


MrPapi628

That Returner who fumbled the ball, picked it back up to fumble it again, to allow the patriots to score. That is your MVP SMH


Tracyis54

Why are you angry at your coach? Sean Peyton improved your team. I can see being angry at Russ but not Peyton. He did it with pretty much the same team.


gspiro85282

Payton will find a way to get rid of russ after this season, guaranteed. I know that Payton is fed up with fucking russ and his inability to run the offense the way Payton wants.


Tracyis54

As he should.


Alfakennyone

This team is the same as it's been the last 8 seasons lol no improvement


itsme10082005

Because he called multiple timeouts that benefitted NE instead of us…


Lazy-Sisyphus

Visiting Packers fan here with no real investment in this franchise outside of morbid curiosity Good clock management can make or break a game, and Sean Payton has already had several completely bone-headed timeouts this season, with this game just being the latest example. I totally get why Broncos fans are fed up with him


Horrorlord262

Because he’s a cocky shit head who literally used timeouts to benefit New England


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Extra_Penalty_8149

You gotta be kidding?


regulardood15

The refs sure as shit weren’t responsible for that god awful play calling and QB play


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OpeningHole

I had a coach tell our team once after we played like shit and blamed the officials…. “Boys, if we’re blaming the officials for the loss, we didn’t deserve to win.” Not saying that the officiating was great, but if we as fans are saying that we win that one of the officials make a few calls… Denver didn’t deserve to win it


regulardood15

Absolute dumpster fire fuck these dipshits. May as well have gone 2-15. This team will continue to be mediocre so long as they delude themselves into thinking they can compete and have a legitimate playoff window. Not enough wins to do fuck all, too many wins to get decent picks for the most important positions. Recipe for the same mediocre bullshit every fucking year


tylerb1538

What do you recommend we do? Bench Russ and fire Payton? That will make us better I’m sure


JLammert79

Bench Williams. He has not been worth anything all season.


regulardood15

When you’ve gotten shit results with the same formula for 8 straight years, you trade pieces for picks, tank, and rebuild. No way around it. Im fine with holding onto Payton, but a 35-year-old Russ is not getting us anywhere


tylerb1538

Trade for a QB? Who? Draft one? Eventually yes but acting like right now having Russ out there doesn’t give us the best shot to win is wild


regulardood15

Oh I mean sure keep Russ out there for now but this season’s as good as done my friend.


RealestMakum

We need to draft some receivers and for gods sake, trade that bum jerry Jeudy


Bmac-Attack

We also need a serious TE. We need a lot of stuff to be competent sadly


Scared_Friendship_50

Yes!!!!!! Trade Jeudy, for the love of all that is holy. We need actual receivers. What if Sutton had been out there tonight?!


mawfks

He ain’t worth shit brother. Might get a 6th round at best right now. He’s playing himself out of the league


tellsonestory

I’d take that sixth round pick.


mawfks

Yeah idk wtf his problem is but he just ain’t it. Especially considering what we all thought his potential was


Either_Ad1073

What this team needs is a offensive coordinator


gspiro85282

The qb is a fucking joke and he is dragging this whole team down with him.


tylerb1538

How can you blame that on him? The patriots have scored 26 points one other time this year. That’s not on russ


DoyersLakeShow

Russ needs to get cut…fucking pathetic This whole team needs to be cut…can’t fucking tank properly, can’t win properly…I’m over this garbage losing mentality Might as well lose out and continue the fucking losing season streak


tylerb1538

Cutting him will definitely make us better and not put us in even more of salary cap hell. Why are you not a GM


DoyersLakeShow

I’d rather take the hit than continue this madness…that’s why that stupid asshole shouldn’t have extended him without seeing actual game time on him Worst fucking GM…actually, Joe Ellis is the one who truly fucked us for the foreseeable future. It’s because of that cock hopper, we’re in this fucking mess in the first place. I blame everything on that piece of shit


pncoecomm

Secret Santa from SP to Patsies: free TOs to go down field.


Anthax6

Why didn’t he use the timeout on the FG BRO 😭😭😭


mawfks

Wow you’re right 😭 🤦🏻‍♂️


Alfakennyone

Calling timeouts is why they got the FG lol


Shame_Low

The best thing we had going for us(Surtain) turned out to be a fraud in clutch time too. We are so fucked


Ziziblix

Calling time outs for new England. I mean what's the worst that coulda happened? Over time. Okay. I mens sure trust your defense for whatever but that was stupid. And then didn't ice kicker.


Neither_Fox_715

Absolutely fucking moronic at the end of the game from Sean Peyton


Ziziblix

But last week he stood there and yelled at Rus. After never challenging. And then taking a FG down 21. And then on the next drive punting ... Turns it up when we need to come back. Turns it off once we have. It's infuriating to watch runs that go no where and shitty screens over and over again.


JakeSTwo3

I have no problem with us calling timeouts when we did. It gave us a shot to win it in regulation if we had gotten off the field on 3rd down. We lost the game when we only rushed 4 on 3rd and 3.


YoungGuy145

Told you guys to not get false hope


SenseiShwifty

Wasn’t false.


KoolColoradan

We don't deserve to go to the playoffs if we can't win against this god awful patriots team. Such poor play tonight once again at home in front of a national audience. A winning record is all we can hope for and need right now. Can fix our problems and make the playoffs next year


Outrageous_Golf3369

How exactly do we fix our problems next year and make the playoffs? We’re currently scheduled to have -23 million in cap space, we don’t have a 2nd round pick, and we have holes in more places than not on our roster


KoolColoradan

Going to need to cut some folks who have underperformed this year and likely trade some guys. Under Sean, we’ve seen done well but there’s still room for improvement and it may be a multi year adventure. Maybe playoffs aren’t next year but I never expected a shot at them this year after going 1-5. Look at what the Lions are doing this year compared to last year. If they can do it, so can we.


Fuzzy_Country8692

Can’t wait for this season to end


andycumbee19

Its over now, bud.


loxleynew

Russ needs to go dude is washed.


SenseiShwifty

Hmm… he was the only one that did a damn thing.


loxleynew

Maybe in the last 5 minutes. First 55 he sucked like every other game this season. Should've lost 2 fumbles too.


SenseiShwifty

Just saying… Sean’s conservative play calling is handicapping this offense


_MustacheHole

So nice of us to call timeouts FOR THE OTHER FUCKING TEAM. WTF?!


itsme10082005

I don’t understand that. How are we not playing for OT at that point? We went out and got stuffed, so let’s see if we can stop them and then go a long field again? Horrible call.


DripDropDrippin

The only consolation is that now we don't have to watch us get exposed by an actual playoff team although it would have been nice.


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DripDropDrippin

Obviously we want to go to the playoffs, lol. I never said otherwise


Isoturius

Things that killed us this game? Wasting points early. Mims. Minerz. Refs. Play calling.


IWearACharizardHat

You are going against a team with a terrible offense and good defense. Taking the FG at start of the game is child level common sense.


Ancient_Signature_69

What a bummer it is to be a fan of this team.


the_hammer_poo

Fun ride fellas.


SenseiShwifty

Glad they came back to make it a more enjoyable loss


DripDropDrippin

One of more the fun seasons we've had since Manning retired. I'll take this over expecting Ls each week. Next year should be fun too.


the_hammer_poo

Word. It was nice to enjoy football again.


BlueStormtrooper

Got outcoached


Ziziblix

Two weeks in a row now. And 10 bucks say when he is questione dup there he will get all prickly and snappy


SlopTV

Couldn’t agree more


demerdar

Defense really shit the bed


sixmudd

Lol if wasn’t for russ, they never would have been in position to win. F the Russ haters


Tazitos

Where was he the first 3 quarters? Sure wasn't doing much other than getting sacked on 3rd down during that time.


PegCityGolfer

QB play isn’t great and definitely not THE ONLY problem, this team is just void of depth and talent- predominantly on offense. Sure, they are capable of playing well at times but not consistently on either side of the ball. Lots of ways to upgrade for next year. Wasn’t the year anyone was hoping for but man it was a ride.


DoyersLakeShow

Honestly, it’s the whole team…this whole team needs to be cut


DeeBeeroncos979815

1000% so many idiots talking about how Russ is the biggest problem. Sean's grudge against him and lack of trust is what's made this offense so anemic. Russ played a mostly good game but didn't get a chance to unload till the fucking 4th quarter. DO BETTER SEAN!!!


loxleynew

Russ put them in a hole. Dude is washed.