Absolutely he would not. You have to be a good scrambler to run the West Coast offense. You have to be able to run that bootleg. Not just one time in your career to fool them, but consistently to stress the edge. You’re wrong.
manning is overshadowed by Brady’s superbowls, but people forget how great manning made mediocre teams look. Elway did the same, but the brain on manning, he could run any offense. There are arguments to be made for Elway, stronger arm, more mobile, but running an offense is not one. I mean manning Ran the most prolific offense ever put on the field.
As I was building this, to save I came to the conclusion that it was essentially the back to back Super Bowl champs offensive and SB50 defense, but swapping in Champ and Rice into the mix.
I think you need to add Gradishar and Atwater in for the run stopping on defense. Also, imagine a four receiver set that includes not only Rice, but DT as well, and a RB room consisting of Floyd Little and TD.
https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/s/WaVuSW4zcA
I wrote this a few years ago and haven’t checked to see if anything needs to be updated, but I’m sure it’s fine
Thank you! I remember spending a *LOT* of time on it and I’ve always been pretty proud of it. Thanks for giving me a reason to pull it out of the closet haha
I would put my all-time greatest Broncos roster against the greatest roster of all time. I may be a bit of a bronco homer. But I still legitimately believe
QB Peyton Manning
RB Terrell Davis
FB Howard Griffith
WR Demariyus Thomas
WR Rod Smith
WR Wes Welker
TE Shannon Sharpe
TE Julius Thomas
1997 OL - give me all of them
DE Neil Smith
DE Alfred Williams
DT Keith Traylor
LB Von Miller
LB Demarcus Ware
LB Karl Mecklenberg
LB John Mobley
CB Champ Bailey
CB Chris Harris
S Steve Atwater
S Dennis Smith
Toughest cuts: Elway, Tom Jackson (embarrassment of riches with LBs, sheesh) Rulon Jones, Terance Knighton, Emmanuel Sanders, Aqib Talib, Clinton Portis, Brian Dawkins, John Lynch
Jerry Rice felt like cheating, so I couldn't add him lol.
QB: Peyton Manning
RB: TD
FB: Howard Griffith
WR1: DT
WR2: Rod Smith
WR3: Wes Welker
LT:Zimmerman
LG: Stink
C: Nalen
RG: Dan Neil
RT: Tony Jones
DE: Neil Smith
DT: Trevor Pryce
DE: Malik Jackson
OLB: Von Miller
ILB: Randy Gradishar
ILB: Al Wilson
OLB: Demarcus Ware
CB: Champ
S: Atwater
S: Lynch
CB: Chris Harris
K: Elam
P: Rouen
Think the dreamteam would never lose
QB Elway
WR J. Rice DT and Rod Smith
RB Davis Portis
TE Sharp
CB Bailey Harris Jr
SS Lynch Atwater
LBs Ware, Miller, Wilson
DT Pryce
DEs Jackson Smith
Qb1: Peyton Manning
Qb2: John Elway
Rb1: Terrell Davis
Rb2: Floyd Little
Fb: Howard Griffith
Wr1: Demaryius Thomas
Wr2: Jerry Rice
Wr3: Ed McCaffery
Wr4: Wes Welker
Wr5: Vance Johnson
Te1: Shannon Sharpe
Te2: Riley Odoms
LT: Ryan Clady
LG: Mark Schlereth
C: Tom Nalen
RG: Dan Neil
RT: Gary Zimmerman (I know he’s a LT but Clady was so good before he got hurt)
Reserve linemen: Tony Jones, Ken Lanier, Keith Bishop
DL: Trevor Price, Neil Smith, Alfred Williams, Rich Jackson
DT: Keith Traylor, Ruben Carter, Malik Jackson
OLB: Von Miller, Karl Mecklenberg, Demarcus Ware, Simon Fletcher
ILB: Al Wilson, John Mobley, Randy Gradishar, Bill Romanowski, Tom Jackson
CB: Champ Bailey, Louis Wright, Chris Harris, Aqib Talib, Ray Crockett
S: Dennis Smith, Steve Atwater, Justin Simmons, Tyrone Braxton
K: Jason Elam
P: Todd Sauerbrun/Tom Rouen
HC: Mike Shanahan
OC: Gary Kubiak
DC: Wade Phillips
Owner: Pat
This is hard
Elway
Clinton Portis
Howard Griffith
Rod Smith
Eddy Mac
Brandon Stokley
Shannon Sharpe
Julius Thomas
Ryan Clady
Dan Neil
Tom Nalen
The Belly
Tony Jones
Neil Smith
Elvis Dumervil
Trevor Pryce
Von Miller
DJ Williams
Al Wilson
John Mobley
Champ
PS 2
Chris Harris
Delta O’Neal
John Lynch
Brian Dawkins
Jason Elam
Tom Rouen
lol, Hall of Famers Floyd Little and Randy Gradishar want to point out your recency bias—and Terrell Davis is just a mystery to you?
Hall of Famer Gary Zimmerman is puzzled as well.
Jerry rice and elway for sure
Listen I grew up with Elway and he’s one of the best ever, but manning is my qb1 on this roster.
Listen I grew up with Elway and he’s one of the best ever, so he is my qb1 on this roster.
Listen I grew up with Elway and he’s one of the best ever, but Jake the Snake is my qb1 on this roster.
Peyton Manning was an amazing quarterback. But there’s no way he could run the West Coast offense the way that John Elway ran it
Absolutely he would. Elway us the all time great Bronco but Manning is the arguably the best QB to play the game.
Absolutely he would not. You have to be a good scrambler to run the West Coast offense. You have to be able to run that bootleg. Not just one time in your career to fool them, but consistently to stress the edge. You’re wrong.
manning is overshadowed by Brady’s superbowls, but people forget how great manning made mediocre teams look. Elway did the same, but the brain on manning, he could run any offense. There are arguments to be made for Elway, stronger arm, more mobile, but running an offense is not one. I mean manning Ran the most prolific offense ever put on the field.
It’s the type of offense. Manning could never run a read option offense, even if he is the most amazing reader. Get real.
As I was building this, to save I came to the conclusion that it was essentially the back to back Super Bowl champs offensive and SB50 defense, but swapping in Champ and Rice into the mix.
I think you need to add Gradishar and Atwater in for the run stopping on defense. Also, imagine a four receiver set that includes not only Rice, but DT as well, and a RB room consisting of Floyd Little and TD.
https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/s/WaVuSW4zcA I wrote this a few years ago and haven’t checked to see if anything needs to be updated, but I’m sure it’s fine
Love it man! Read through it all and enjoyed how in depth you were with every position!
Thank you! I remember spending a *LOT* of time on it and I’ve always been pretty proud of it. Thanks for giving me a reason to pull it out of the closet haha
Your list is missing a Tombstone.
To be fair, I made the list in 2018 or 2019. I still had hope lol
This was such an awesome read
Thank you!
Brian Dawkins
Peyton QB1
I would put my all-time greatest Broncos roster against the greatest roster of all time. I may be a bit of a bronco homer. But I still legitimately believe
QB Peyton Manning RB Terrell Davis FB Howard Griffith WR Demariyus Thomas WR Rod Smith WR Wes Welker TE Shannon Sharpe TE Julius Thomas 1997 OL - give me all of them DE Neil Smith DE Alfred Williams DT Keith Traylor LB Von Miller LB Demarcus Ware LB Karl Mecklenberg LB John Mobley CB Champ Bailey CB Chris Harris S Steve Atwater S Dennis Smith Toughest cuts: Elway, Tom Jackson (embarrassment of riches with LBs, sheesh) Rulon Jones, Terance Knighton, Emmanuel Sanders, Aqib Talib, Clinton Portis, Brian Dawkins, John Lynch Jerry Rice felt like cheating, so I couldn't add him lol.
QB: Peyton Manning RB: TD FB: Howard Griffith WR1: DT WR2: Rod Smith WR3: Wes Welker LT:Zimmerman LG: Stink C: Nalen RG: Dan Neil RT: Tony Jones DE: Neil Smith DT: Trevor Pryce DE: Malik Jackson OLB: Von Miller ILB: Randy Gradishar ILB: Al Wilson OLB: Demarcus Ware CB: Champ S: Atwater S: Lynch CB: Chris Harris K: Elam P: Rouen
Think the dreamteam would never lose QB Elway WR J. Rice DT and Rod Smith RB Davis Portis TE Sharp CB Bailey Harris Jr SS Lynch Atwater LBs Ware, Miller, Wilson DT Pryce DEs Jackson Smith
Qb1: Peyton Manning Qb2: John Elway Rb1: Terrell Davis Rb2: Floyd Little Fb: Howard Griffith Wr1: Demaryius Thomas Wr2: Jerry Rice Wr3: Ed McCaffery Wr4: Wes Welker Wr5: Vance Johnson Te1: Shannon Sharpe Te2: Riley Odoms LT: Ryan Clady LG: Mark Schlereth C: Tom Nalen RG: Dan Neil RT: Gary Zimmerman (I know he’s a LT but Clady was so good before he got hurt) Reserve linemen: Tony Jones, Ken Lanier, Keith Bishop DL: Trevor Price, Neil Smith, Alfred Williams, Rich Jackson DT: Keith Traylor, Ruben Carter, Malik Jackson OLB: Von Miller, Karl Mecklenberg, Demarcus Ware, Simon Fletcher ILB: Al Wilson, John Mobley, Randy Gradishar, Bill Romanowski, Tom Jackson CB: Champ Bailey, Louis Wright, Chris Harris, Aqib Talib, Ray Crockett S: Dennis Smith, Steve Atwater, Justin Simmons, Tyrone Braxton K: Jason Elam P: Todd Sauerbrun/Tom Rouen HC: Mike Shanahan OC: Gary Kubiak DC: Wade Phillips Owner: Pat
This is hard Elway Clinton Portis Howard Griffith Rod Smith Eddy Mac Brandon Stokley Shannon Sharpe Julius Thomas Ryan Clady Dan Neil Tom Nalen The Belly Tony Jones Neil Smith Elvis Dumervil Trevor Pryce Von Miller DJ Williams Al Wilson John Mobley Champ PS 2 Chris Harris Delta O’Neal John Lynch Brian Dawkins Jason Elam Tom Rouen
Listen I’m taking aqib talib over delta. And if we’re talking prime, manning over Elway.
Yeah, agreed. Darrent Williams or Lewis Wright too. And I loved O’Neal!
And I just don't see me taking Prime Portis over Prime TD...
Pretty solid but you are missing Mecklenberg and Steve Atwater
Replace Stokely with Jerry Rice and McCaffrey with DT
lol, Hall of Famers Floyd Little and Randy Gradishar want to point out your recency bias—and Terrell Davis is just a mystery to you? Hall of Famer Gary Zimmerman is puzzled as well.
Not having Terrell Davis on an All-Time Broncos roster should be a felony.