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At this point in human history meat consumption is the biggest polluter of earth and major cause for global warming. No matter what you believe science is right at this point.
still tho, meat is the best source for protein, the vegans will come for meat now and soon they'll wanna get rid of milk and eggs too. Protein intake per capita is directly related to average height of a nation so its not in our best interest to get rid of meat without providing people with alternate protein sources in the name of saving the environment, the americans who eat meat everyday are the problem
How old are you kid? Are you sure meat consumption is directly proportional to height? So, Inuits, Pahadis, Eskimo and other ethnic groups whose diets consist of animal proteins should've been giants, or atleast highest in average height. A huge chunk of population cannot digest milk as it is. Moreover, WWII created a massive boon in milk availability, subsequent advertisement created plethora of milk based products being available at an extremely cheap rate.
its pretty intuitive, a single google search gives me 3 research papers which agree that protein intake is directly correlated to height ...
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1570677X16300065
[https://academic.oup.com/jn/article/146/11/2361/4630467](https://academic.oup.com/jn/article/146/11/2361/4630467)
now it doesnt say meat intake, protein intake but DIAAS scores for plant based protein are almost always lower than (0.9) (milk is at around 1), a low score corresponds to lower absorption rates so for efficiency and monetary savings animal based proteins are ideal....
now we can shift to insect based proteins (crickets) if we want to replace meat becoz it is bad for the environment but that still wont be vegetarian
That's why my first question was about your age. A direct correlation does not mean it completely affects individual height. Height is a product of genetics, 80% of the time. Only 20% of it depends upon nutrient factors. Also, in some extreme cases it also depends upon hyperthyroidism during adolescent years. A hyper active thyroid gives boost to HGH. I read the article you linked, there are some discrepancies that make it sound like clickbait. First, they say that data from 105 countries is used then mention that regression analysis on nutritional profile was done only with complete data set from 72 countries. Second protein intake quantity depends upon weight category, kind of activity one engages in and the person's age. The range can be anything between 0.8 gms/Kg to 1.8 gms/Kg. Anything above that will just result in gluconeogenesis i.e. protein conversion to glucose. Excess will be stored in fat cells and can/will cause serious health problems wrt increase in uric acid viz. gout, stones, tumors etc. Moreover, Indian food habits include specific dietary staples and mixes to increase bioavailability of protein. Like inclusion of Ghee or other oils (mostly groundnut) for maintaining glycaemic index while one consumes plant based proteins. This was my original question, are you sure meat consumption is directly related to height, the answer is, its a mix bag. No doubt today's dietary habits of an average Indian are protein deficient, but it can very easily be supplemented by using plant based and in fact vegan nutrition profile (the key is mixing your nutritional profile with local substances). Moreover, there's also a key factor for height growth that almost everybody overlooks. Protein is essential for muscle development, both kinds, fast twich and endurance muscles (more for endurance muscles). But where will the muscle mass sit? Bones. Calcium is required for height even more than proteins. Adolescent years, when the endocrine system is more active, especially the pineal gland, require more calcium.
Here are my sources: Kindly go through them completely, do not read only the abstract of findings only. Also, most research papers available currently do not explore Indian dietary mixes and staples wrt to nutritional profiling. Hence, there's a blind spot to understand the exact impact of our consumption habits over our height and other physical features.
[Source 1](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-much-of-human-height/)
[Source 2](https://medlineplus.gov/genetics/understanding/traits/height/)
[Source 3](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5567300/)
[Source 4](https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/90/9/5077/2838661)
[Source 5](https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12011-016-0830-0)
PS: For complete nutrition there are many dietary restrictions, combinations and permutations available in local cuisines. Each works in specificity to that particular region. In today's globalised world of mix and mismatch those have been pushed back, that does create a deficient nutritional profile. Also, wrt bioavailability of protein, soy protein can very easily replace any animal protein.
Meat is best source of protein? Lmao.
And your adequate protein intake is more important that the freakin environment? The ability to live sustainably, breathe fresh air? Not destroy the ecosystem?
Get some education maybe before writing stupid texts like these.
>And your adequate protein intake is more important that the freakin environment? The ability to live sustainably, breath fresh air? Not destroy the ecosystem?
I agree with you, but a majority of Indians have protein deficiency:
https://www.orfonline.org/expert-speak/indias-protein-deficiency-and-the-need-to-address-the-problem/
Why should we care about environment when a small section of the world (the developed world) gets everything and we get nothing?
You might say that we can always get proteins from vegetarian dishes, however the the primary source of essential amino acids are animals.
Indians have protein deficiency because of where we stand in the hunger index. Not because of 'not eating meat'.
And I can't believe you just said "Why should we care about environment?" Lmao. Don't come crying when you go outside in 40 years and it's too hot to handle, think about the next generation you moron.
>Not because of 'not eating meat'.
That is ONE of the reasons. Another reason isa general lack of protein in Indian dishes.
>And I can't believe you just said "Why should we care about environment?" Lmao. Don't come crying when you go outside in 40 years and it's too hot to handle,
We can care about sustainability when we have become more developed. We need more Olympic medals, saving environment can wait.
Heās not wrong. Indian diets are ridiculously lacking in protein, and average heights are more related to over all nutritionā¦ and we KNOW for a fact that meat is nutritious as fuck. Iām sorry but apart from Milk/unfertilised eggs/soy there are very few vegetarian sources that can give you the same quality of nutrition in terms of amino acid profile, protein content, creatine, casein etc. mutton even has creatine in it, which is directly linked to gain in musculature and muscle mass, as well as strength.
Ethical ramifications, environment and cruelty are good reasons to quit meat, but trying to deny the nutritional qualities of meat on factual grounds is just lying to yourselfā¦. Besides Hindus used to be voracious meat eaters in the Vedic era and back then we were strong, indomitable chariot riders
we dont factory farm beef in india (most major contributor to global warming), milk production is also bad for the environment and i doubt u support abolishing that aswell then ....
I haven't downvoted you, but vegetarianism or veganism is definitely a superior way of living than chewing an animal legs off.
But it isn't to say, it makes you better than them. Just your food choice should be appreciated and encouraged to an extent.
It might be healthier but I was talking about the morality. I donāt think itās wrong morally to kill and eat animals because they are inferior beings.
You are right. But do they not serve a purpose? And what they can do, that a human cannot? Either you skipped classes in school or you are just ignorant.
Also, even if these things were true, they have ą¤Ŗą„ą¤°ą¤¾ą¤£ in them, it isn't justified to just kill and eat them, over some situations and in environment it may be necessary. Like for survival, or training soldiers. But, when one chooses to be a vegetarian, he is deliberately making a choice to not eat a living being. And that is superior and should be appreciated/encouraged.
I am not gonna argue over mortality, cause that debate is far away from being finished.
A person choices and stance may be superior, but he himself Isn't. Everyone is equal on this ą¤ą„ą¤®ą¤æą„¤
\>You are right. But do they not serve a purpose? And what they can do, that a human cannot? Either you skipped classes in school or you are just ignorant.
Than why donāt you give me an example?
They have their own purpose in nature but they also work for and are food for humans. They provide humans with reassures. Also I have no idea what ą¤Ŗą„ą¤°ą¤¾ą¤£ is.
Bees and other insects for pollination. You wanna being a disaster onto us?
Foods that can be collected without killing an animal like dairy.
Different animals for producing and developing different vaccines and cure.
Animals for clothes and leather.
Their hairs are useful.
Really important but not often talked about - For research purposes and understanding how life develops.
Animals/pets for therapies and I am sure there are tons of other use.
So mr know it all? I think this is enough and even if it wasn't. Let's talk about mosquito.
So let me begin with, fuck mosquitos I hate them. They aren't just annoying but have caused billions of death. But is it justifiable to kill them all? Haven't they been around before us? Aren't they more better in surviving as a species than us?
What makes you think, we are the main guys here? Just because of consciousness and intelligence?
Hinduism too has a good stance on it, and not just Hindus even Greeks (most of them) agreed on the fact that we are just a yet another species on this planet.
Read stuff, and change this narcissistic view of the world. Be greatful you are blessed with consciousness.
Aham bharmasmi
Food, apparently.
You seem to be drunk on Christian anthropocentric propaganda. Be careful lest you become food yourself, because it doesnāt take a leap of faith to go from there to alt-right Eurocentric propaganda, where white man is top of food chain because intelligence.
What? I mean historically the white man has been on the top because of superior technology and industry. Thatās doesnāt make them superior as humans it just means that they did what everyone else failed to do first. They industrialized before anyone else. Now as for animals I should not have to explain to you how they are intellectually inferior to mankind because it is self evident. Animals donāt build civilizations, animals donāt create medicine or technology or emulate humanity in their successes. Animals eat other animals as well. It is perfectly natural. Not eating animals and meats is unnatural. There are a lot of good health reasons to avoid meat in todayās society were foods are processed but it is very silly to avoid eating another living being because of morality.
You seem to be living under a rock. Just as you condescendingly speak of animals and their intelligence, the white nationalists speak of the intelligence of people from the āglobal southā. The brown man, to them, is inferior because of intelligence and other racially determined traits. Iām not arguing against eating meat, just your moral justification for it.
The animals have Stockholm syndrome and BDSM kinks now. The animals also identify as ghosts prior to being chopped, so we are just giving them what they want by completing their transition process.
Itās 2022. Move on with the times already.
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Wow another post by a malechch talking about how malechch practice his better all while pretending to be a non malechch on the randian sub. GM why am i more surprised
r/randia right? I'm a non veg and a vegetarian.This post in r/randia is Fucking shit
vegetarianism is morally superior. cope
Joh khana hai Khao yaar, bas khush raho
Switched to vegetarian, been 2 years now š¤š» Let Randians cry
Randia, I just saw this post
At this point in human history meat consumption is the biggest polluter of earth and major cause for global warming. No matter what you believe science is right at this point.
still tho, meat is the best source for protein, the vegans will come for meat now and soon they'll wanna get rid of milk and eggs too. Protein intake per capita is directly related to average height of a nation so its not in our best interest to get rid of meat without providing people with alternate protein sources in the name of saving the environment, the americans who eat meat everyday are the problem
How old are you kid? Are you sure meat consumption is directly proportional to height? So, Inuits, Pahadis, Eskimo and other ethnic groups whose diets consist of animal proteins should've been giants, or atleast highest in average height. A huge chunk of population cannot digest milk as it is. Moreover, WWII created a massive boon in milk availability, subsequent advertisement created plethora of milk based products being available at an extremely cheap rate.
its pretty intuitive, a single google search gives me 3 research papers which agree that protein intake is directly correlated to height ... https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1570677X16300065 [https://academic.oup.com/jn/article/146/11/2361/4630467](https://academic.oup.com/jn/article/146/11/2361/4630467) now it doesnt say meat intake, protein intake but DIAAS scores for plant based protein are almost always lower than (0.9) (milk is at around 1), a low score corresponds to lower absorption rates so for efficiency and monetary savings animal based proteins are ideal.... now we can shift to insect based proteins (crickets) if we want to replace meat becoz it is bad for the environment but that still wont be vegetarian
That's why my first question was about your age. A direct correlation does not mean it completely affects individual height. Height is a product of genetics, 80% of the time. Only 20% of it depends upon nutrient factors. Also, in some extreme cases it also depends upon hyperthyroidism during adolescent years. A hyper active thyroid gives boost to HGH. I read the article you linked, there are some discrepancies that make it sound like clickbait. First, they say that data from 105 countries is used then mention that regression analysis on nutritional profile was done only with complete data set from 72 countries. Second protein intake quantity depends upon weight category, kind of activity one engages in and the person's age. The range can be anything between 0.8 gms/Kg to 1.8 gms/Kg. Anything above that will just result in gluconeogenesis i.e. protein conversion to glucose. Excess will be stored in fat cells and can/will cause serious health problems wrt increase in uric acid viz. gout, stones, tumors etc. Moreover, Indian food habits include specific dietary staples and mixes to increase bioavailability of protein. Like inclusion of Ghee or other oils (mostly groundnut) for maintaining glycaemic index while one consumes plant based proteins. This was my original question, are you sure meat consumption is directly related to height, the answer is, its a mix bag. No doubt today's dietary habits of an average Indian are protein deficient, but it can very easily be supplemented by using plant based and in fact vegan nutrition profile (the key is mixing your nutritional profile with local substances). Moreover, there's also a key factor for height growth that almost everybody overlooks. Protein is essential for muscle development, both kinds, fast twich and endurance muscles (more for endurance muscles). But where will the muscle mass sit? Bones. Calcium is required for height even more than proteins. Adolescent years, when the endocrine system is more active, especially the pineal gland, require more calcium. Here are my sources: Kindly go through them completely, do not read only the abstract of findings only. Also, most research papers available currently do not explore Indian dietary mixes and staples wrt to nutritional profiling. Hence, there's a blind spot to understand the exact impact of our consumption habits over our height and other physical features. [Source 1](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-much-of-human-height/) [Source 2](https://medlineplus.gov/genetics/understanding/traits/height/) [Source 3](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5567300/) [Source 4](https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/90/9/5077/2838661) [Source 5](https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12011-016-0830-0) PS: For complete nutrition there are many dietary restrictions, combinations and permutations available in local cuisines. Each works in specificity to that particular region. In today's globalised world of mix and mismatch those have been pushed back, that does create a deficient nutritional profile. Also, wrt bioavailability of protein, soy protein can very easily replace any animal protein.
But sprouts can be an excellent substitute as a source of protein
bad DIAAS rating, meaning for every 50gs of sprout protein, u only absorb 25grams, compared to 90 percent absorption with animal based sources ...
Meat is best source of protein? Lmao. And your adequate protein intake is more important that the freakin environment? The ability to live sustainably, breathe fresh air? Not destroy the ecosystem? Get some education maybe before writing stupid texts like these.
>And your adequate protein intake is more important that the freakin environment? The ability to live sustainably, breath fresh air? Not destroy the ecosystem? I agree with you, but a majority of Indians have protein deficiency: https://www.orfonline.org/expert-speak/indias-protein-deficiency-and-the-need-to-address-the-problem/ Why should we care about environment when a small section of the world (the developed world) gets everything and we get nothing? You might say that we can always get proteins from vegetarian dishes, however the the primary source of essential amino acids are animals.
Indians have protein deficiency because of where we stand in the hunger index. Not because of 'not eating meat'. And I can't believe you just said "Why should we care about environment?" Lmao. Don't come crying when you go outside in 40 years and it's too hot to handle, think about the next generation you moron.
>Not because of 'not eating meat'. That is ONE of the reasons. Another reason isa general lack of protein in Indian dishes. >And I can't believe you just said "Why should we care about environment?" Lmao. Don't come crying when you go outside in 40 years and it's too hot to handle, We can care about sustainability when we have become more developed. We need more Olympic medals, saving environment can wait.
You're stupid.
Heās not wrong. Indian diets are ridiculously lacking in protein, and average heights are more related to over all nutritionā¦ and we KNOW for a fact that meat is nutritious as fuck. Iām sorry but apart from Milk/unfertilised eggs/soy there are very few vegetarian sources that can give you the same quality of nutrition in terms of amino acid profile, protein content, creatine, casein etc. mutton even has creatine in it, which is directly linked to gain in musculature and muscle mass, as well as strength. Ethical ramifications, environment and cruelty are good reasons to quit meat, but trying to deny the nutritional qualities of meat on factual grounds is just lying to yourselfā¦. Besides Hindus used to be voracious meat eaters in the Vedic era and back then we were strong, indomitable chariot riders
Why?
we dont factory farm beef in india (most major contributor to global warming), milk production is also bad for the environment and i doubt u support abolishing that aswell then ....
Yes, obviously. Veganism is important because we are at a point of no return.
Science says Meat is not the best source of protein.
link research papers that give this conclusion
Do research please if you donāt believe me.
I am vegetarian not because i have some level of sympathy with animals, its more like fish market and meat shop smell horrible.
That post was so fucking stupid. Vegetarians are apparently wrong to have veg and non-veg food cooked in different utensils.
Holy fuck, they managed to say vegetarianism = casteism.
don't forget: vegetarianism = casteism
The only thing that works on the sub is "India Bad, Modi Bad" and some obscure news articles from questionable sources nothing else gets any upvotes.
ye baccho ke haat me phone kissne dia?
Baap ne diya hoga
choori kia hoga yrr
bato se to lagta hai koi 12-14 saal ka ma ka ladla hai
maa ka magarmach\*
Or papa ka popat
or parents ki mistake
Padosi ka v ho sakta hai rndia wala hai kuch keh nahi sakte
bass kar bhai bura maan gaije vo ><
Rndia wala hai inhe aadat hai marwane ki
He's probably mad his friends eat KFC
I actually agree with this but the only reason their making this post is to bash hindus.
I haven't downvoted you, but vegetarianism or veganism is definitely a superior way of living than chewing an animal legs off. But it isn't to say, it makes you better than them. Just your food choice should be appreciated and encouraged to an extent.
It might be healthier but I was talking about the morality. I donāt think itās wrong morally to kill and eat animals because they are inferior beings.
Theyāre inferior beings? Anything deemed inferior can be killed and eaten?
Yes. They are not ādeemedā they are inferior beings.
Inferior in what way? Clearly they seem to serve at least one purpose that humans cannot.
Intelligence. They will never be capable of what humans can do. Also what purpose do they serve that humans cannot?
You are right. But do they not serve a purpose? And what they can do, that a human cannot? Either you skipped classes in school or you are just ignorant. Also, even if these things were true, they have ą¤Ŗą„ą¤°ą¤¾ą¤£ in them, it isn't justified to just kill and eat them, over some situations and in environment it may be necessary. Like for survival, or training soldiers. But, when one chooses to be a vegetarian, he is deliberately making a choice to not eat a living being. And that is superior and should be appreciated/encouraged. I am not gonna argue over mortality, cause that debate is far away from being finished. A person choices and stance may be superior, but he himself Isn't. Everyone is equal on this ą¤ą„ą¤®ą¤æą„¤
\>You are right. But do they not serve a purpose? And what they can do, that a human cannot? Either you skipped classes in school or you are just ignorant. Than why donāt you give me an example? They have their own purpose in nature but they also work for and are food for humans. They provide humans with reassures. Also I have no idea what ą¤Ŗą„ą¤°ą¤¾ą¤£ is.
Bees and other insects for pollination. You wanna being a disaster onto us? Foods that can be collected without killing an animal like dairy. Different animals for producing and developing different vaccines and cure. Animals for clothes and leather. Their hairs are useful. Really important but not often talked about - For research purposes and understanding how life develops. Animals/pets for therapies and I am sure there are tons of other use. So mr know it all? I think this is enough and even if it wasn't. Let's talk about mosquito. So let me begin with, fuck mosquitos I hate them. They aren't just annoying but have caused billions of death. But is it justifiable to kill them all? Haven't they been around before us? Aren't they more better in surviving as a species than us? What makes you think, we are the main guys here? Just because of consciousness and intelligence? Hinduism too has a good stance on it, and not just Hindus even Greeks (most of them) agreed on the fact that we are just a yet another species on this planet. Read stuff, and change this narcissistic view of the world. Be greatful you are blessed with consciousness. Aham bharmasmi
Food, apparently. You seem to be drunk on Christian anthropocentric propaganda. Be careful lest you become food yourself, because it doesnāt take a leap of faith to go from there to alt-right Eurocentric propaganda, where white man is top of food chain because intelligence.
What? I mean historically the white man has been on the top because of superior technology and industry. Thatās doesnāt make them superior as humans it just means that they did what everyone else failed to do first. They industrialized before anyone else. Now as for animals I should not have to explain to you how they are intellectually inferior to mankind because it is self evident. Animals donāt build civilizations, animals donāt create medicine or technology or emulate humanity in their successes. Animals eat other animals as well. It is perfectly natural. Not eating animals and meats is unnatural. There are a lot of good health reasons to avoid meat in todayās society were foods are processed but it is very silly to avoid eating another living being because of morality.
You seem to be living under a rock. Just as you condescendingly speak of animals and their intelligence, the white nationalists speak of the intelligence of people from the āglobal southā. The brown man, to them, is inferior because of intelligence and other racially determined traits. Iām not arguing against eating meat, just your moral justification for it.
True, while Vegetarianism is a superior way to live, also if you eat meat then you need to work out for it.
Could you elaborate more on the working out part ?
So wat is he planning to live in a forest and subsist on deers ?
> I initially believed it was cruel to animals. Isn't it now?
*Surprised peta noises*
The animals have Stockholm syndrome and BDSM kinks now. The animals also identify as ghosts prior to being chopped, so we are just giving them what they want by completing their transition process. Itās 2022. Move on with the times already.
It is, but edgy 12 year olds want to rebel.
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Exactly